Music App & ID3 Tag Problems - Xoom Themes and Apps

Hi All,
So, I recently went through my MP3 collection and finally cleaned up all my ID3 Tags (Specifically Artist and Album Artist fields) using Mp3Tag which tags in ID3v2.3 which is suppose to be android friendly (which took HOURS). Now when I actually sync any large amount of songs to the device many (tons) of them many of them display unknown artist, which just cant be because they all have these fields filled in. Now I know the XOOM uses the MTP protocol and so I have tried using WMP and Songbird to sync over to the device as well as just using window's 7 explorer to copy files over to Xoom. In all cases as soon as the MP3's actually get on the device it self it starts reverting the metadata taging on my MP3's back to the way they were before I cleaned them up. I have no idea how. This is honestly driving me nuts. To test this out I have removed all tagging data from some of the files and manually refreshed it and it still happens. Any other music nuts out their seeing this, and if so have you figured out a way to get around it?
Thanks,
Jvward
PS I honestly love the Xoom even with this problem its my fav

what program did you use to do all your tag editing? i recently did this with my 120GB music collection (96% legal too) so i can sympathize with the amount of effort it takes. i have however, not experienced the problem you described.
drop one of the affected files into your dropbox and pm that long with the correct and incorrect tag data to me. lets see if i can duplicate problem.

I sent you all the info please let me know anything you find, this is driving me nuts lol.

Please let me know what program works best for getting album art for my collection.

having the same issues what a pain in the ass, have to edit in winamp/itunes! WTF

Actually check out STAMP ID3 Editor very easy and its adding everything to the correct folder, artist, album and album cover...let me know how it works for you!

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WM6 Media Player Library Listing Contributing Artist

I know my post count is low, but I did a lot of searching first and couldn't find anything (I'm new here, but not new to forums).
I am using WMP in WM6 to play my music and I've noticed that under the "Artist" category listing in my Library, it lists everyone from the Album Artist tag as well as the Contributing Artist tag. This drives me nuts because it ends up with a ton different artists and combinations of multiple artists listed.
Is there any way to get WMP to only list the Album Artist tag under the "Artist" category in the Library. I can't find a setting in the options, but maybe there is a registry setting I can change?
If it matters I've got a Tilt running the AT&T WM6 rom.
Thanks in advance,
Pete
music library management
I don't have the answer to your problem, I'm afraid, but a related issue I thought I might add here:
I can't seem to figure out how to change artist/album info in WMP on my device, yet somehow it seems to change it on some of my files (although the info was already there . . . weird?!??). I usually transfer whole albums at a time directly from my computer into the library folder on my storage card (bypassing the WMP sync function); any ideas why WMP mobile would change my ID tag info, and how I can keep it from doing so?
Hi Pete,
I don't know if there is a way to solve the problem the way you want it, but I keep my music library managed by making playlists using a tool called Playlisteditor. Making a playlist only costs a second and it is a way to solve your problem.
moederfietser said:
Hi Pete,
I don't know if there is a way to solve the problem the way you want it, but I keep my music library managed by making playlists using a tool called Playlisteditor. Making a playlist only costs a second and it is a way to solve your problem.
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No, it isn't. The point of using WMP anyway is the library, which lists every contributing artist combination as a separate artist.
Album Artist: Something
Artist ("contributing"): Something/Featured artist/featured artist 2
It should group by album artist, if WMP can't even handle Microsoft's own WMP contributing artist sintax.

Music Player not recognizing tags

I have all my music on my SanDisk MP3 players, even checked the tagging under properties in Windows - all the album/artist info is there, even the album art shows up on my MP3 players.
However, when I upload all this music to the G1 - it all reads as "unknown artist" "unknown album" - with no album artwork and no organization of the music...
anyone have an idea?
Very weird, mounted it to the computer, unmounted and went back to music, all working now....
Yeah mine did that as well, must be a bug. Tunewiki is a great music app in the market and it blows away the default music player!!!
Yeah I like Tune-Wiki. I personally, actually really like the default music player on the device. I love the simplicity of it and it just seems to work really well. An equalizer would be nice but thats about the only thing I think it's missing.
I think there is still a bug though, as out of 2,000 songs - I have 849 "unknown" - when I check the songs files they show proper tagging.
I may drop them all into "Tag and Rename" later tonight and see if that does the trick.
I have an issue with the media player not recognizing some of my album art...all of the files are of the same size/type, tags were all created with the same program, yet when I put all the songs on my sd card, only half of the album art shows up.
I'm not one to complain, but if I'm putting in all this EXTRA effort to make my album art show up(not the simple folder.jpg) I'd like it to all work, not just some of it. :-( WTF!
Exactly, I'm having half my album art not show up, and half the songs not being recognized. It sucks.
Yet they were ALL created using the same software and all tagged the same.
I wonder if it's filenames that start with a number, or a syntax issue --- might be worth looking into.
i am having same issue with tunewiki.... i dropped about 15 albums onto the sd card and it recognised only 2 of them- the rest are unknown and all have correct ide tags- checked with 2 different programs!
Do we know if they are working on this issue? I tried to find their contact on the website but got nothing.... fairly useless website actually.
Must be something to do with the G1 though as the default player does the same!
vr24 said:
Yeah I like Tune-Wiki. I personally, actually really like the default music player on the device. I love the simplicity of it and it just seems to work really well. An equalizer would be nice but thats about the only thing I think it's missing.
I think there is still a bug though, as out of 2,000 songs - I have 849 "unknown" - when I check the songs files they show proper tagging.
I may drop them all into "Tag and Rename" later tonight and see if that does the trick.
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i agree about the EQ in the default player.
so does anyone have a fix for the G1 not recognising ID3 tags?

adding music to g1 from computer?

Hey guys im not sure if there's a sticky or how-to here on the forums on how to add music from your computer to your g1... if there isn't can someone please explain how? thanks
Just copy any mp3 files to the SD card, the apps on the v1.5 of Android will search out any mp3 files, if you are still using v1.0/1.1 I forget the app I used to use, but there should be several available from Android Market for free.
can i get 1.5 without having a rooted phone? if so how?
Don't need to be on 1.5, 1.0 (RC19-RC30) and 1.1 (RC33) will do. Just dump the mp3s into a directory named "Music" on the root of the sdcard. The mp3s can be in any depth of directory. The music app will automatically index them and show album art if present. Android presents the sdcard as a mass storage class device, so any program that can manage such a device can also manage a music library on the sdcard.
thanks! im stupid for not realizing how to do it in the first place lol
rschuman90 said:
thanks! im stupid for not realizing how to do it in the first place lol
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Or used to something much more convulted...
DoubleTwist
There is also a program called DoubleTwist which will let you copy music that you have downloaded from iTunes over to you phone as well. It is completely free but it requires registration.
Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
CBowley said:
Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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Every mass-market consumer device has uninformed or inexperienced users. That's just natural. I'm okay with seeing newbie questions in the General or App&Games forums, but it does irritate me to see them in the Dev forum. Especially since every other post is a problem related to A2SD or not wiping on an upgrade.
This is getting offtopic.
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Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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IDK if this was a jab at things not being complex, but I for one am totally in favor of a system that makes sense- i.e. being able to put music anywhere on the phone and the phone will find it.
mer6 said:
IDK if this was a jab at things not being complex, but I for one am totally in favor of a system that makes sense- i.e. being able to put music anywhere on the phone and the phone will find it.
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I'm not, then you get ringtones being played etc, if I could have my ringtone on another partition etc it wouldn't matter but normal system apps don't find or use ringtones from anywhere else but on the sdcard
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I'm not, then you get ringtones being played etc, if I could have my ringtone on another partition etc it wouldn't matter but normal system apps don't find or use ringtones from anywhere else but on the sdcard
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Not at all. I mean with android, or most mp3 players all you do is drag and drop. With the ipod you need to download the music, convert, add to itunes, connect device, wait for sync, or something to that effect (never used an ipod, not into marketing hype or using a product JUST because it's trendy).
It's just linux/android is so simple to use, just most people are so used to the backwards ways of microsoft, or apple, that they don't stop to think that it juat may be that simple.
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Not at all. I mean with android, or most mp3 players all you do is drag and drop. With the ipod you need to download the music, convert, add to itunes, connect device, wait for sync, or something to that effect (never used an ipod, not into marketing hype or using a product JUST because it's trendy).
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You just said what I said in a previous comment where I said "a convulted process", it's not that linux or any of the MP3 players offer a simple process but Apple makes the process convulted for their own ends to lock the user into their devices and software.
resurrecting an oldish thread instead of starting a new one.
Most of my music is copied over onto my G1. Sometimes it finds album art and sometimes it doesn't. I can't seem to get manually copied thumbnail pics to be recognized by the music or htcmusic apps. Is there a way to fill in missing album art?
What I do, since I've had all my music organized on itunes, is add it to iTunes
And have it automatically search for the album art.
If i can't find it just go to google and search for the artist and album in images
And drag and drop to the song.
OR
Right Click and select get info,
And on the last tab I believe is the album art.
And just copy and paste, or drag and drop from the browser, the album art..
From there just drag and drop the song to your SD card, pretty easy..
And for the people saying its a convoluted process, its not.
Just double click the song, or add the song to iTunes, connect the iPod and it automatically syncs.
Or like I do and manually manage my iPod, just drag and drop.
Simple.
I ran into this problem recently and found a unified solution. My ipod uses Rockbox so it syncs with music players the same way my G1 does. I use iTunes to keep my library organized and for importing new music and getting album artwork and then use winamp to sync it to my phone and ipod. Since doing it this way I have no problems with missing artwork or any other syncing issues.
these both sound look good ideas but I'd have to actually commit to an application for managing my library. My wife has Itunes set up for her ipod and I've always hated Itunes. I suppose there is a way to have two separate libraries for two different users and their assorted devices in Itunes? or maybe not.
I was able to pull album art in winamp for my files, so maybe I can sync just the albums I need to update.
MP3 to G1
I use Sailing Media Sync to add music on my G1. You can choose what playlist from itunes you want to have it synced with. It transfers the album art as well.
http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/Mac/
I prefer this than dragging and dropping. This is for the Mac but I do think they came out with a PC version.

Music Sync Issue (Unknown Artist)

I have searched far and wide through this forum, and also googled it, and there doesn't seem to be an answer, so I will bring it up again. I have imported pretty much all of my music with iTunes, which tagged and organized all my music. However, when I put my music onto my nexus one, many many albums get sorted into "unknown artist" when all of my music is nicely sorted in folders by artists. This seems very strange to me. People have suggested double twist and a few other various programs, but no one has given any input as to whether these programs worked. Does anyone have an answer for this?
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
adamhlj said:
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
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well froyo will have the ability to play music OTA from itunes with an update for the music application in the market after froyo releases. it may fix the problem. if you can wait for a few weeks it may be resolved. as for being put as unknown, maybe the artist is not tagged correctly. check the mp3 tags to make sure that data is there
Your ID3 tags are screwed up. Your filenames don't matter, it's the ID3 tags.
Use MP3Tag (google it), it's one of the best taggers there is.
+1 for mp3tag
been using it for years
I dont let any programs "automatically organize" my music
becareful with it though, if you mass edit something incorrectly you could find that all of your tags get messed up
try music folder on the market
Well, thank you very much for the info! I will look into it today and hopefully get my music all sorted out!
I have the very same problem.
Most of the replies here seem to suggest that retagging the mp3s will solve the issue. However, all of my mp3s were working correctly before I upgraded to Froyo. To confirm this, I've just done a restore to cyanogen 5 and sure enough, all were working fine again.
When I used easytag to fix some of the files, they still didn't show up the correct information under Froyo. So, there's definitely something fishy going on here!
I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
A seperate issue tho is embedded albumn art doesnt show up for a couple of albumns. The tags are identical to other albumns that work, and so are the image file types used to create the cover art. Anoying! These are the kind of little niggly problems that make jo public buy an iphone
kam187 said:
I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
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What app would you suggest to clean them up? I've tried using MP3Tagger Pro, but I'm a complete n00b at this sort of thing.
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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Thanks for your reply!
adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
So I had something strange happen. Ever since I got the update for froyo, all the music on my SD card has been properly tagged (at least it gets sorted correctly by artist, album, etc.) Hooray for FROYO!!
disgustip8ted said:
If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
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Oh man, that SUCKS!!! i am glad i am not you, lol.
Android music library issues
Hi,
Here is the issue: after installing cyanogenmod 7 on my HD2, I have tranfered about 5Go of music from my pc to the sd card.
The problem is that all these mp3 have proper mp3 tag in ID3 v2.3 in UTF-8, but they are all recognized as "Unknown artists" mp3, and the album is just the folder.
I have tried to transfer an alicia keys album (only a single album) to the phone, also in id3 v2.3, and it is correctly tagged and recognized.
So I've tried to delete de media storage data, and reboot the phone.
At the start up, the system rescan the entirer sd card, but now the alicia keys albums are recognized as "unknown artist" and the album is also just the mp3 folder.
I have the same issue when rescanning with meridian player.
The problem seems to appears only when there are several folder of mp3/large amount of mp3 files to scan ex: >1Gb)
At this point, I've understood several points:
1. android can correctly read mp3 music with tags in ID3 V2.3
2. massive scan of music seems to be the cause of incorrect recognition of mp3 from android.
At this point, is there a way to properly scan mp3 with there tags, even in a massive scan ?

Media Manager for Android - They all Suck

So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems
What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
RogerPodacter said:
What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
sosquidtaste said:
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.
Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!

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