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WOW! I cant tell you how much i like this keyboard with my Mogul. It paired up with no driver download required. Just make sure you enter the same passcode and press return with the keyboard immediately after pairing with the ppc. Instructions are minimal in the box, online are better. I thought it worked very well right out of the box. It was fairly accurate and seemed to improve as I used it and played with the sensitivity (lessened it, as I was getting multiple letters occasionally. It makes a click sound every time a key is recognized. The laser projected keyboard is very visible in all but the brightest of rooms. The futuristic look and function is beyond belief. The reviews were slamming it for some reason. While it might not be the ultiimate solution to mobile computing, it is so easy on my eyes (much more so than the onscreen popup keyboard, tactile keyboard or "full screen keyboards) I dont have to use my reading glasses! I paid $149.00 at Fry's in stock here in Houston. Total accident that I stumbled onto it. Did i say it is less than 1/2 pack of cigarettes in size? A bluetooth laser projected vrtual keyboard! You have been warned. I saw this same thing floating around the net years ago and thought it would never happen. It has and it works! Now I want the bluetooth projector (not out, but was in same picture years ago).
Anyway now for the cons, andd they are minor in my opinion. It requires sitting on a flat surface (has a microswitch on bottom that turns it off if lifted though it repairs instantly upon repowering) which makes use in a car difficult if not impossible especially if moving (now if they would have built a clip on it to clip it upright on say a notepad!) That is about it. Btw I paid retail and get no compensation from any manufacturer and I think it was worth it. You wont believe the look on friends faces when you pop it out of your top pocket!
link to the manufacturer's or reseller's website please?
Wow, this is really expensive.
http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/
I'm not sure I'd want to use a bluetooth keyboard when the Mogul already has a built-in keyboard, kind of overkill if you ask me.
Also, what's the battery life on this thing and the effect on the Mogul when paired up with it?
Here is the link http://www.vkb-support.com/index.php
The claimed battery life is 2 hours of active typing. The laser dosent use much power I wouldnt think. Also you think the keyboard on the mogul is good? You must have great eyes and be into texting. It is not a better keyboard (the mogul) nor is it more accurate. Re: The price yes at 149.00 it wasnt cheap, however a bluetooth folding keyboard is 149.00 at Best Buy and a palm bluetooth (not compatible with ppc) was 89.00. So you choose what you spend your money on. I personally think it is one of the most futuristic accessories I have have ever seen and it works very well maybe not perfect but neither is the user! 2 good dinners for my family of 5 easily costs the same and all I get is a larger waist with the dinner. Cya
Those are some cheap dinners...
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Here is the link http://www.vkb-support.com/index.php
The claimed battery life is 2 hours of active typing. The laser dosent use much power I wouldnt think. Also you think the keyboard on the mogul is good? You must have great eyes and be into texting. It is not a better keyboard (the mogul) nor is it more accurate. Re: The price yes at 149.00 it wasnt cheap, however a bluetooth folding keyboard is 149.00 at Best Buy and a palm bluetooth (not compatible with ppc) was 89.00. So you choose what you spend your money on. I personally think it is one of the most futuristic accessories I have have ever seen and it works very well maybe not perfect but neither is the user! 2 good dinners for my family of 5 easily costs the same and all I get is a larger waist with the dinner. Cya
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WOAHHH!!!
you can get TWO dinners for 5 people for $150? Where are you? In NYC a family of 5 can't eat that cheaply unless they go to McDonald's.
Still not understanding though, the Mogul/Titan HAS a built-in keyboard doesn't it? Why then do you need a second keyboard?
yes it does have a tactile keyboard, an onscreen keyboard and i have even dowloaded larger onscreen keypads, however none of those are like typing on a full size keyboard. The VKB is better when being at a stationary location and would like to type easier. I avoid detail when using any of the onboard solutions due to the inconvenience. I am over 40 and the ability to read without glasses is slipping away and that has a lot to do with my preference and the fact I actually TALKED to the girls I was chasing when I was young and single so Texting isnt second nature to me. I really want a total voice command of some type preferably not via a web connection but onboard the phone. Actually if HTC would combine a virtual projector, vitual keyboard and phone the size of say a credit card with a terragig? Is that too much to ask? or do I have to wait for an underdeveloped nation to bring it to me? Btw regarding food, I didnt say a nice restaraunt or nutritious! and surely no good drinks. In NYC you couldnt even afford the toll road to get to the restaraunt with 5 people!
we take the subway
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Btw regarding food, I didnt say a nice restaraunt or nutritious! and surely no good drinks. In NYC you couldnt even afford the toll road to get to the restaraunt with 5 people!
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toll road? unless you're part of the bridge and tunnel crowd coming into the city, we take the subway by and large. It's efficient, clean, and safe. Just the tourists are afraid of it. Don't know why, but that's their lookout.
Oh, and there's plenty of places to eat that are affordable, just not kansas affordable (no knock on kansas, I just have to believe that prices in kansas are considerably less than NY).
I have one of these, and I like it, but there are probably a few things you should consider before paying the bucks. First, it's got a major cool factor attached to it, however, if you touch type, it's likely going to drive you crazy, it's a full sized virtual keyboard, but there is no touch feedback, you're going to have to watch yourself type unless you get very good. Also, it's no good in high light situations, you won't be able to see the projection of the keyboard. It will only work on a stable, flat surface, don't expect to be able to whip it out in your car or lap (has a cut-off switch on the bottom, and does NOT like anything that will interfere with the infra-red reading that detects your finger touch on the surface).
Now, all that being said, it's still extremely neat and handy to be able to carry a full sized keyboard easily in your pocket, and using it will certainly turn heads, and even having to look at the keyboard to type, I can still certainly out pace my typing on the hardware or software keyboard on my kaiser and tytn..
It is HID compliant, and will be picked up as an input device natively in wm5 and wm6 from my experience. It is rechargable, and has a decent run time, never used it until it's died, so can't say on real world total run time.
I've been looking high and low for a more generic case with included Bluetooth keyboard in it. Obviously manufacturers are not going to design this for the NookColor since it isn't even support to have bluetooth, so it has to be something more generic. I realize that the 7" Galaxy Tab is similar in size, but slightly smaller, so anything designed for the Tab specifically with no give for space is not going to work.
Has anyone found one that has worked well for them? There is one at Suntek Store (Black Leather Case with Bluetooth Keyboard for 7 inch Tablet PC
Item ID: 10010816 - I can't post a link due to not enough posts)looks promising, but my concern is that the Nook just won't fit in there.
Anyhow, thanks in advance, it would be an awesome find!
Found this on Google: someone who converted a tab case:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwward0/sets/72157626423783404/
Has anyone tried using a bt keyboard case made for a larger tablet with the NC?
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Has anyone tried using a bt keyboard case made for a larger tablet with the NC?
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I've tested a keyboard pairing with BT and working fine, it's just been the fit that's been the issue. Most 10" tablet cases are far too large to put the Nook Color into.
I look the link you sent geek_riot, it's probably very functional but it kind of looks junky like that. I'll keep looking!
I also noticed that the BB Playbook is closer to the dimensions of the nook. I'm going to look into that option as well.
I've just ordered an eWonder bt case/kbd designed for the 7" Galaxy Tab. Hoping I can make it fit. We'll see. $39.99 at Amazon
I previously snagged a Logitech rf full size kbd/mouse combo MK320 that works perfectly with the Nook off a single dongle, but its way too big for travel, & I hate plugging in the dongle with the micro-to-A usb adapter.
Will report back my success/failure with the eWonder!
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Found this on Google: someone who converted a tab case:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwward0/sets/72157626423783404/
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I can vouch for this one. It works great, solid, though typing at 90 WPM can get laggy.
Overall, 8.5 out of 10.
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I've just ordered an eWonder bt case/kbd designed for the 7" Galaxy Tab. Hoping I can make it fit. We'll see. $39.99 at Amazon
I previously snagged a Logitech rf full size kbd/mouse combo MK320 that works perfectly with the Nook off a single dongle, but its way too big for travel, & I hate plugging in the dongle with the micro-to-A usb adapter.
Will report back my success/failure with the eWonder!
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I am thinking about purchasing this case. How di it work for you?
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I am thinking about purchasing this case. How di it work for you?
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I'm not having a very good experience with the keyboard - paired easily enough, but the NC stops receiving input from it after 3-4 characters. No such issue with another generic handheld BT keyboard. :/
Anyone else using the eWonder having good success?
Rodney
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I am thinking about purchasing this case. How di it work for you?
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Has worked very well for me. I have no major complaints at all. Your milage may vary!
A couple of issues to note that you may find annoying. It is at least 3/8" thicker than other cases due to kbd. Also weighs noticeably more for same reason. Has no clasp on outside to hold both halves together when carrying. Also, it goes to sleep if no key is struck for about 5 min. When that happens, it disconnects from Nook. When a keystroke wakes it, it takes 20 sec or so to reconnect. Can be annoying. The up side is it is energy conservative. Im heavy user so I have to recharge the Nook daily (sometimes 2X/day). I charged the kbd 10 days or so ago when I first got it, had have not had to recharge it yet. Also, you REALLY should turn off the Android kbd when using the bt kbd!
Again, caveat emptor.
E-Wonder BT kybd
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Has worked very well for me. I have no major complaints at all. Your milage may vary!
A couple of issues to note that you may find annoying. It is at least 3/8" thicker than other cases due to kbd. Also weighs noticeably more for same reason. Has no clasp on outside to hold both halves together when carrying. Also, it goes to sleep if no key is struck for about 5 min. When that happens, it disconnects from Nook. When a keystroke wakes it, it takes 20 sec or so to reconnect. Can be annoying. The up side is it is energy conservative. Im heavy user so I have to recharge the Nook daily (sometimes 2X/day). I charged the kbd 10 days or so ago when I first got it, had have not had to recharge it yet. Also, you REALLY should turn off the Android kbd when using the bt kbd!
Again, caveat emptor.
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I just received this kybd but am unable to connect- it searches and finds "Bluetooth Keyboard" and then when I tap on it, it asks me for a PIN number. I tried both "0000" and "1234" as suggested but nothin doin. Also, how DO you turn off Android kbd?
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I just received this kybd but am unable to connect- it searches and finds "Bluetooth Keyboard" and then when I tap on it, it asks me for a PIN number. I tried both "0000" and "1234" as suggested but nothin doin. Also, how DO you turn off Android kbd?
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I didn't have that prob. Did you enter the "0000" on the kbd immediately after you entered it on the Nook (i.e. type in 0000 and hit Enter)? Gots to enter it on both or it won't pair, & pretty quickly when prompted. Then, once it pairs & connects, you never have to enter it again.
To turn off the built-in kbd, go to Settings:Language & Keyboard, and if you are paired/connected, the Android kbd will be likely be checked, and Null kbd will be shown (that's the bt kbd). Simply click off the Android kbd. Keeps it from popping up each time you need to enter a line.
Come on B&N
haha they needa start coming out with these types of cases and accessories for the new revolution of tabletry lol
Nook BTkb Option
I just purchased a BT Keyboard designed for the "Galaxy 8.2-inch" Tablet.
It is a bit "loose" on the Nook; however, a couple of strips of the "hook" part of some two-part, adhesive-backed, Velcro(tm) tape and it nestles right into the keyboard holder and "frames up" nicely in the opening. The keyboard is a bit bigger, too -- which also helps those of us with "fat" fingers.
Anyway, no "warranty-voiding" modifications were required to either the Nook or the Keyboard to make it work. The cost was about $35...
FWIW,
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sesquipedalian101 said:
I just purchased a BT Keyboard designed for the "Galaxy 8.2-inch" Tablet.
It is a bit "loose" on the Nook; however, a couple of strips of the "hook" part of some two-part, adhesive-backed, Velcro(tm) tape and it nestles right into the keyboard holder and "frames up" nicely in the opening. The keyboard is a bit bigger, too -- which also helps those of us with "fat" fingers.
Anyway, no "warranty-voiding" modifications were required to either the Nook or the Keyboard to make it work. The cost was about $35...
FWIW,
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Link please? Or was this purchased in a store? Make and model, at least. My sister is looking for such a thing
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i just order this one from eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/22100007869...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1427wt_1113
i'll check back with my impressions...
hey guys what about samsung galaxy 7.7 keyboard case. the dimensions of galaxy tab 7.7 are 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm and nook color are 210 x 130 x 12 mm. quite close, ha?
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hey guys what about samsung galaxy 7.7 keyboard case. the dimensions of galaxy tab 7.7 are 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm and nook color are 210 x 130 x 12 mm. quite close, ha?
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That 13.3mm difference in length is equivalent to over half of an inch. I'm not familiar with the case you're asking about, but I can't think of many designs that fit well with tablet over 1/2" longer
alright...i just got here today: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-K...Accessories&hash=item20c477fe0f#ht_2366wt_807
so based on a couple of hours playing with the keyboard. its not the best. kind of small. so my fat fingers double type alot. but maybe its something i can work out over time. another thing, the feedback isnt the best. it is very difficult to tell whether you actually pressed down on the key. my speed has been reduced because i cant tell if i actually pressed the key and the spacing is very small between the keys.
now, as far as fitment. it is a very snug fit!! the nook is a little fatter than the Samsung Tab 7". but it fits. a little stretching and a little cutting. no big deal. it does the job.
the leather...well..feels fake. so dont expect real leather...hehehe!!
but for 30bucks...not bad. pairing was easy. no issues there. i'll check back in when i've used it for a while.
if anyone has any questions...dont hesitate...post here or PM...
thanks!
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alright...i just got here today: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-K...Accessories&hash=item20c477fe0f#ht_2366wt_807
so based on a couple of hours playing with the keyboard. its not the best. kind of small. so my fat fingers double type alot. but maybe its something i can work out over time. another thing, the feedback isnt the best. it is very difficult to tell whether you actually pressed down on the key. my speed has been reduced because i cant tell if i actually pressed the key and the spacing is very small between the keys.
now, as far as fitment. it is a very snug fit!! the nook is a little fatter than the Samsung Tab 7". but it fits. a little stretching and a little cutting. no big deal. it does the job.
the leather...well..feels fake. so dont expect real leather...hehehe!!
but for 30bucks...not bad. pairing was easy. no issues there. i'll check back in when i've used it for a while.
if anyone has any questions...dont hesitate...post here or PM...
thanks!
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So updates? How is it now that you've been using it for awhile? Are you willing to post any pictures or videos of you using it?
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Hey all,
I'm starting classes, and I'm taking the plunge from laptop to n7 as my main device for textbooks (now ebooks) and note taking.
I've got moon reader pro for my e-book form textbooks since I am familiar, and it seems to work well enough. I also have been using Papyrus beta and evernote for note taking and I am liking it, but considering switching to a swype like keyboard and a different standard app.
Does anyone else use the N7 for note taking/typing and have any app suggestions or tips?
Thanks all.
I've tried laptop, phone, tablet (N7), but nothing beats paper and pencil (not pen, a pencil) and eraser.
If you're handwriting with stylus, its slow, takes a while to process, not accurate, but at least you can draw all special characters, with laptop keyboard, special chars are a shift of alt away, on tablet, you need to press key for special chars, and again, to access even more of them, and then go back to keyboard...
Depends on what you're studying of course. In computers typing on a tablet is useless, copying code from blackboard to tablet takes the most time ever, paper is the fastest, then laptop, then nothing for a while then tablet.
If you still want to use N7 for notes, search for 'notepad' or 'notepad stylus' (not name of apps, just a guideline), and try various apps.
But still, nothing beats pencil and eraser. I'm going to uni with a notebook (paper and stuff, not a laptop) and pencil, I don't even have a binder, because I don't like it.
But when it comes to books, paper sucks, tablets are awesome (as long as you don't need to take notes in the book itself, but again, you can just mark a page and write your notes down on paper).
Have you tried Asus Supernote?
It's a handwriting app, but it might be worth checking out. http://db.tt/s1GOsCPL
I've been using my nexus 7 for two semesters now. I use the logitech bt keyboard. I use evernote for the notes and skitch for integrated graphs (econ major). So far it's easier than lugging around my laptop and helps that I can study easily anywhere.
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What you need is a mechanical keyboard, once you type on a mechanical keyboard you never going back to cheap crap
http://www.amazon.com/Storm-QuickFi...298516&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+keyboard
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=202
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=249
Office suit pro and hackers keyboard for notes. Still enjoy my laptop more, but with one hour battery life and no promise of outlets in all my classes the battery of my nexus seven beats it.
Hackers keyboard is nice, even has special characters.
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I also use the logitech keyboard with my n7. I've made the switch from my ultra book to this method of lightweight note taking and it's just as (or more at times) effective as note taking on a laptop. The only downside is the lack of good word processors for tablet.
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+1
Plus, paper+pencil/pen never requires batteries and don't make click-click-click noises that irritate petulant instructors.
You can even omit the eraser - just use gobs of paper (lots of margins and spaces between every line), as that leaves opportunity for strikeouts and later annotation of notes during study. Have a look online at "Harvard Note Taking" guidelines.
Note that none of the respondents came back with "I use a stylus" for note taking. Annotating existing documents with very very brief notes (or highlighting) seems to be the only decent use of a stylus on the N7 for academic work, but I wouldn't do that in a lecture setting. Too slow.
The reason is that the basic registration accuracy of capacitve touch screens is so poor that you need to scrawl individual characters in huge strokes. Some apps (e.g. Lecture Notes) get around this by having you write in a "zoom box" that automatically scrolls and downsizes into the main document.
That's all well and good, but you are still forced to stylus-write with really huge strokes (on the N7 you can get maybe 3 or 4 words across the horizontal dimension of the screen in landscape mode) - it produces good-looking writing but it is excruciatingly sloooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww compared to what you can do with a pencil.
If you want to share notes with others digitally - eh, take a picture of them. Let them annotate them at a snail's pace with a stylus.
good luck with school!
Atm I am using Evernote and Asus Supernote
Evernote is good just because it syncs, text editing is super basic and bullets (imo an essential feature in note taking apps), especially numbered ones, are broken (mostly)
Asus Supernote is great because of the hand writing feature, but I haven't discovered bullets yet
FWIW,
I just "wrote" the sentence
"The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog."
three times in succession - and timed the results for each of three transcription mechanisms:
- Touch typing on a large keyboard: 25 sec (meh, I'm lame - somewhere around 35 wpm)
- Writing it on to a piece of paper: 50 sec
- Scrawling it into Lecture Notes app: 93 sec. (I used an Adonit Jot Classic stylus)
Give it a try yourself to see what your results are (there is a trial version of the Lecture Notes app available). I was surprised that the stylus entry was less than two times slower than handwriting (but almost) - it just feels painfully slow.
For text only - assuming you are/will become a touch typist, typing is hands-down fastest. The problem comes when you encounter extemporaneous symbols or diagrams that are not part of the course handouts. Text-only note taking in a math / science /engineering class is a disaster, but it is probably fine for other lectures that are not diagram- or symbol- intensive.
A valuable skill - whether you are typing or writing - is to be able to do it without ever looking down at what you are doing. That lets you maintain focus on what the lecturer is saying.
Things have changed markedly since I went to school - the handout materials are much richer in complexity and more often than not electronic, which provides an incentive to take notes directly on top of (annotating) them. OTOH, the best lecturers tend to go off-script and expand on things that are NOT in the course notes. (The worst lecturer I ever had practically read from the textbook verbatim).
That puts a premium on speed, and keeping your attention focused on the lecturer - not your note taking mechanism.
If you go digital, use dropbox or something similar for backups religiously. Nobody wants to steal your paper notes, but the same is not true of your tablet.
cheers
I'm looking into getting the tf701 as my first Android Tablet. I think I've pretty much settled on it, but I just have a few questions.
Is it fully functional without the keyboard dock, or has the UI been changed in such a way that using without the dock is problematic (I don't plan on getting one for at least the first year)?
What am I missing out on without the dock? As far as I can tell, they dock offers a keyboard (duh), extra battery and USB 3 connectivity. As far as I can tell, All other slots (SD Card, headphones) are on the tablet, please correct if I'm mistaken.
Is there a dongle to enable USB without having a dock? It seems there was one for older models, but I can't find one for this model specifically.
If i connect a bluetooth keyboard, is the experience the same as with the dock? (minus battery and USB obviously)
What kind of case is necessary? Do I need a heavy duty otter box style case, or do the basic pleather ones do well enough.
The only other tablets which seem to be comparable are the Sony Xperia Tablet Z, which is something else I'm considering, and the Galaxy Note 2014 (quite a bit out of my price range). Are there any other tablets I should be looking at?
Sorry for all the questions, but these tablets aren't cheap, and I want to make sure I'm making the right decision.
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I'm looking into getting the tf701 as my first Android Tablet. I think I've pretty much settled on it, but I just have a few questions.
Is it fully functional without the keyboard dock, or has the UI been changed in such a way that using without the dock is problematic (I don't plan on getting one for at least the first year)?
What am I missing out on without the dock? As far as I can tell, they dock offers a keyboard (duh), extra battery and USB 3 connectivity. As far as I can tell, All other slots (SD Card, headphones) are on the tablet, please correct if I'm mistaken.
Is there a dongle to enable USB without having a dock? It seems there was one for older models, but I can't find one for this model specifically.
If i connect a bluetooth keyboard, is the experience the same as with the dock? (minus battery and USB obviously)
What kind of case is necessary? Do I need a heavy duty otter box style case, or do the basic pleather ones do well enough.
The only other tablets which seem to be comparable are the Sony Xperia Tablet Z, which is something else I'm considering, and the Galaxy Note 2014 (quite a bit out of my price range). Are there any other tablets I should be looking at?
Sorry for all the questions, but these tablets aren't cheap, and I want to make sure I'm making the right decision.
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hello tab works fine with out keyboard. it is just like any other tab
the keyboard adds a sd card slot. usb and battery, track pad. the tab has a micro sd slot.
it is worth getting the dock if you like to sit on the train and watch a video or do some emails/ work much more comfy than holding the tab or sitting it on a bag or lap to do this.
any case is fine i like the caseen ones.
I don't own the dock. If I wanted a dock I'd buy a laptop. For me, it defeats the whole purpose of owning a tablet.
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I've had my tf701 for almost a month and I'm not a fan of not having a kb. I like being able to type faster and having different degree of tilt when I'm using the tablet, plus the extra battery life of the dock. And it's a PITA trying to hold the tablet when I'm watching a video in bed. My tf700 has a dock and I can just lay it on my lap or if I'm laying down I lay it on my tummy and angle the screen down so I have the best viewing angle and my hands are free. And to me, my tablet is my laptop replacement.
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The auto-background-dimming problem kills it for me, even if there were no issues with the dock.
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The auto-background-dimming problem kills it for me, even if there were no issues with the dock.
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has anyone spoken to asus about it?
mine in jp doesnt dim like in the vid else where but does change too often for my liking and doesn`t fade the dim like my old acer a510 wish it did.
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The auto-background-dimming problem kills it for me, even if there were no issues with the dock.
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The dimming issue is for me really not a biggie, I hardly notice it.
But main concern is for me the dock connection problem.
My expectance is that all users who don't have the problem now wil have it sooner or later because the mechanical stress put on to the connector (both female and male side) is immense and (as electronic engineer with my own engineering company) it will fail for sure later on.
We would NEVER put an electronic device on the market with such a dorming problem!!
I had a TF700 for a year without a kb dock, it's really not necessary. Android and tablets in general are designed to be used from a touch screen. SwiftKey is a really nice keyboard btw, I like the split keyboard for thumb typing.
That being side when I got the TF701, because of the TF700's annoying lagginess, I picked up the keyboard with it on a whim. It's actually really nice to be able to plug in a real keyboard when you want to type out an email or a forum post. The track pad on the keyboard sucks by the way, but you still have the touchscreen so it's not a game killer.
on the subject of keyboards. the Japanese supplied keyboard app that runs with the dock sucks when in tablet only mode you must press enter every word you type. There is no option to remove this even with predictive off.
I downloaded a third party jp keyboard but it fills up half the screen when typing on keyboard dock and it doesn`t register the keys for changing input language.
does anyone know if there is a multi language keyboard that will work correctly with the tf701 keyboard and all it`s keys.
The physical keyboard is a real blessing especially if you have to be on the road a lot. Typing emails, longer texts just isn't and will never be as smooth and fast without a real one. I'm currently using the tf300 combined with the KB and its like a mini notebook.
Will be buying the tf701 next year - the screen is like night and day compared to the tf300 - my girlfriend just bought it and i cannot get her to trade wonder why +gg+
If yyou are looking for a great keyboard app, I'd recommend thumb keyboard, no other KB has that much customization options.
The formfactor of the TF701 (tablet+keyboarddock) is just the USP that makes people choose for this tablet.
When bought without the dock and no need for a keyboard there are more competitors with similar products which you can compare to each other.
Then things like support (updates frequently available), build quality, stability and over all speed are most important.
The dimming issue will be fixed in a future firmware update. The dock issues are being addresses as well. The tablet is less than 2 months old. We'll always suffer as early adapters with Asus. It is what it is..
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Thumbs up for Thumb Keyboard
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If you are looking for a great keyboard app, I'd recommend thumb keyboard, no other KB has that much customization options.
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I also use Thumb Keyboard and think it's hands down the best android keyboard out there. The only downside I've found is that it doesn't do swiping. I've recently discovered Swype and for quick texts on a phone it's much easier to use. For the tablet, however, it will always be Thumb Keyboard for me!
yeah it`s not supporting jp at this time so i`ll keep looking for a good app.
Hi All
This isn't rocket science, but thought I would pass on something I've been working on.
My Ultra has more ram, more storage and a better processor than my laptop along with 5x the battery life. So... I wanted to use it to work on the train and needed to print labels and stuff envelopes.
I bought a Zebra ZQ310 which is a very nice battery powered Bluetooth receipt/label printer. The printer is brill, but the Zebra Android software on Play is very old, but works.
I bought AndropenOffice Pro for £7.99 which I really like, it's got a mouse icon at the bottom and pressing it offers an area of the screen at the bottom as a touchpad, but for me,I bought a Jelly Comb Bluetooth trackball which is easier for me and won't take up too much area on the table. And, significantly it's much lighter than my old clunky laptop with a spare battery.
I bought the pro version of andropen Office as you can't print with the free version. My original idea was to use Google Print but that was jettisoned in December last year.
The only irritation with this is I bought it from the Amazon appstore and it requires you are running appstore and be signed into it to use andropenoffice. This is irritating as I'm guessing they are harvesting my personal data at the same time.
Any road up, Noroot firewall sorted that out. The appstore app is now blocked and andropenoffice seems to work just fine.
The combination of AndropenOffice and the Zebra printer work very well. I can print text, fonts and graphics and it's all fine.
For the keyboard, I've bought one of those PU leather wallets with an integral Bluetooth keyboard (see pic) so it ends up quite like a laptop.
This morning I processed half a dozen orders and printed address labels and it works well. It takes a little getting used to, with the small screen and occasional large windows that need dragging around but I'll stick with it and see how I get on.
Although our local trains often have Internet and mains power, you can't guarantee it so I've got an 18650 power bank which will charge the phone and the printer which, conveniently, is USB-C.
Although there are many more apps for Windows, I'm going to push ahead and see how far I can go. I use paint.net quite a bit on the laptop, so if anyone knows an equivalent for Android, please let me know.
Oops uploaded an Amazon joke too,so enjoy....
Cheers
Steve
You bought a 1500$ cellphone and can't afford a decent laptop to get your job done?
Get your priorities straight.
I disagree.This phone is powerful enough to comply with all his needs, what's the point to spend money on a laptop? The only reason he should buy one is the use of Windows
Hi @vagelis199 are you having a bad day or are you this rude all the time? I explained my reasons so try reading the post again lol. I Paid $1000.00 for my phone so I think you may have been stung lol.
I already have a laptop, but it's heavy to lug around and my phone is always with me.
I program PIC chips from time to time. I don't think there is anything for Android but that would be a real bonus for me.
Anyone know of a decent paint program for Android?
Cheers
Steve
Well, the keyboard/case arrrived and it works well (see pic).
The keyboardi s removable and very thin. It atttaches to the case with integral magnets. The only gotcha is it's a US keybaord so shift-3 is # and not £.
Need to find a good key re-mapper or save the £ symbol in a text file.....
Cheers
Steve
picitup said:
Well, the keyboard/case arrrived and it works well (see pic).
The keyboardi s removable and very thin. It atttaches to the case with integral magnets. The only gotcha is it's a US keybaord so shift-3 is # and not £.
Need to find a good key re-mapper or save the £ symbol in a text file.....
Cheers
Steve
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great setup man, you gave me idea that i can do some parts of my job with phone too
picitup said:
Well, the keyboard/case arrrived and it works well (see pic).
The keyboardi s removable and very thin. It atttaches to the case with integral magnets. The only gotcha is it's a US keybaord so shift-3 is # and not £.
Need to find a good key re-mapper or save the £ symbol in a text file.....
Cheers
Steve
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What mouse is that?
Hi @lortwarCECH
Glad you like it. With the latest generation of phones, I'm finding myself moving more towards the phone than the laptop. It's a bit of a learning curve, but processed a dozen orders today in no time.
Hi @22naresn it's Jelly Comb track ball Model MT50:
MT50 Trackball Mouse
Trackball Mouse: an amazing alternative to traditional mice, allows you to navigate the cursor through your thumb Ergonomic Design: minimize arm & wrist movements, reduce muscle strain, and relieves RSI (repetitive strain injury)Bluetooth4.0 & 2.4G Wireless: connect up to 3 devices...
www.jellycomb.uk
It's a piece of cake to use. It just fell off the arm of a chair and bust a plate on the floor and the ball popped out. Hope I didn''t break it sod the plate!
Cheers
Steve
Update: No tracker balls were harmed in this post. The ball popped back in just fine so life is good. The plate bits are in the bin.
It has a USB-C charging port so that's convenient. I forgot to turn it off (that's the issue with BT devices) and left it on all night. In the morning it worked just fine. Dunno what the battery life is, but it seems pretty good.
Cheers
Steve
Just a little more background on this as it's been quite a long journey then I'll stop droning on
The first printer I bought for this project was a Milestone MHT-L5801 here:
Milestone MHT-L5801 Portable Bluetooth Thermal Printer 58mm Pos Barcode Printer | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Milestone MHT-L5801 Portable Bluetooth Thermal Printer 58mm Pos Barcode Printer at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.
www.ebay.co.uk
And it really is a piece of junk. The plastic clip that holds the platen roller in place broke very quickly and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. One issue was the blutooth range which was about 3 inches lol. I almost had it working,then it started printing very light, with parts of the text missing, Cleaning the head with an IPA wipe made no difference.
I contacted Milestone initially by email and got no reply to my first email or chasers then facebook and they said they would send me new firmware by email. Nothing arrived and when I chased them, they just said 'sorry'. Chased them again and they jsut said sorry again, but no firmware.
So, poor mechanical design, crap firmware with zero support.
Next up was a Zebra LP2824 printer here:
LP 2824 Desktop Printer Support & Downloads | Zebra
Find information on the Zebra LP 2824 Desktop Printer drivers, software, support, downloads, warranty information and more.
www.zebra.com
I bought it for 30 quid on eBay and Zebra printers are good quality. They are designed for use in warehouses etc. It's a desktop printer which makes it a bt heavy to lug around, but it *just works* and there are plenty of spares for it on Aliexpress so it can be maintained.
The power supply is 19v, like most laptops and I bought a USB/19v power bank from aliexpress which works using 18650 batteries here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32619062806.html
The power bank powered the printer just fine and next up was to connect the RS232 port to a bluetooth dongle so the it would be transformed form a desktop printer which was battery powered with bluetooth.
I bought a couple of Bluetooth modules, but coudn't get them to work, then I saw an eBay ad with a guy selling the ZQ310 printers cheap (£100.00) which are designed to be portable (battery powered and Bluetooth) so bought one.
Now the desktop LP2824 is on my desk.
As mentioned earlier the Android software is very old and a bit scrappy, but it seems to work.
I didn't want to use some random labelling software, all I wanted was to be able to print from Open Office and I could then print anything. With Andopenoffice, this all works well and I can print text, fonts and graphics so job's a good 'un.
It's been a labour of love (and hate!) but now everything works fine.
I'm going to email Microchip and see if they are considering producing an Android compiler for their PIC chips. I guess they will think I'm nuts, but if I could program PICs on the train my life would be complete lol.
Ok I'll stop banging on now
Cheers
Steve
And finally (Ithink) here it is cast to a PC monitor using an Amazon Firestick
With the phone running andropenoffice
The firestick plugs into the HDMI port on the monitor and you go to:
Home/Settings/Display/Enable mirroring and it works like a dream
See attached pic.
Cheers
Steve
vagelis199 said:
You bought a 1500$ cellphone and can't afford a decent laptop to get your job done?
Get your priorities straight.
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Why do you care what others do?
It looks a bit bizarre tbh but if it works for you and you have good eyesight go for it
I would guess a 14" laptop would be miles more productive but the phone is surely powerful enough to be a workhorse if necessary
Hehe I just got on abit of a roll and wanted to see what could be done. My eyesight is crap but I have good glasses and you can always zoom a web page.
I must admit, I like the laptop better, but for long battery life on a train with no Internet, USB or mains power, the phone is a good substitute. It takes a bit of getting used to, but my speed is improving daily.
You're right - it's a flippin' powerful computer and so small
Cheers
Steve
I have tried using large phones with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard cases for a long time. Every time I realized Android cannot replace desktop OS. Multi-tasking in Android is painfully slow, whatever you use, split-screen or free size windows, and whichever OS version, I have tried from android 6 to 10. Nevertheless, if you are keen on trying here is some setup I have used
Tablet autofit cases: http://amazon.com/ZAGG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Android-Tablets/dp/B00IBW5XWY, it has a spring holder, tablet just fits snugly in the top shell. it becomes a foldable laptop-like device.
This used to come in 7 inches, 8 inch, and 10-inch compatible sizes. I used this with Huawei mediapad X1/X2, Mediapad M3 8.4
I then got this mouse Logitech t630. It's a very small slim mouse with a touch surface.
When I moved to a little less wider phone, due to unnecessary skewing of display aspect ratios (16:10 -> 18:9 -> 19:9 -> 20:9), the Zagg autofit keyboards no longer fit the phones even of 7+ inch diagonal.
I have Huawei mate 20x most recently. For this phone, I use this keyboard and Logitech T630 mouse as mentioned above.
Another trick to try is to add custom keyboard shortcuts from accessibility -> switch access.
Hi @bark1234
Thanks for all the useful info. Although my speed with the setup described isn't yet as fast as a laptop, I'll be doing 5 hour train journies, so any time I can use fruitully is good. Some eBay pages don't seem to scroll or zoom so that's an irritation, particularly when giving feeback.
I guess time will tell. I will either eat if for breakfast or pull my hair out lol. Fun project though
Cheers
Steve
Just a quick update on this. I've been using Andropenoffice to print labels to a Zebra battery label printer for some time. My speed has improved and now prefer my mi 11 ultra to a laptop. I got caught out with the A12 update as I bought andropenoffice from the Amazon Appstore which doesn't support A12 yet. The options were Update or Quit, but update didn't work so it broke Andropenoffice. Good 'ole Amazon. On the ball (asleep at the keyboard) as usual.
Anyway, rather than grab a pen, I bought Andropenoffice again, but this time from the Play Store. Works great lol.
So in summary, nice small phone to process my orders, but problems with software compatibilty just like a PC.
Some days I really like being an early adopter and other days....
Cheers
Steve
I bought a mi pad 5 pro
It actually feels faster than the mi 11 ultra somehow
Maybe because it has more space for cooling down the chip etc
The battery life is great and it's super smooth
Might be a better productivity device because it is designed for a keyboard and mouse and pen etc but I just wanted to use some apps on a bigger screen and it's great