Call lg support now - LG Optimus 2x

If there are any things you want improved in the software call the support now
My complaints:
Bluetooth does not work with third party software and is unreliable in general.
This has been fixed on other phones with the same broadcom bt chip via custom firmware.
USB host needs software but the hardware is capable.
(same usb controller as motorola xoom)
F-Secure's annoying sound every time it finishes a scan without finding viruses.
(LG is the customer not us so they have to force them)
End your call with asking the case to be elevated.
I've called them with little luck but if we all do they have to fix it.

1. Would be nice if they would give you the option to "repair" your phone in LG update software. Sony Ericsson's Update software allows you to reflash your phone with the newest firmware, even if its already present on the phone.
2. I would also like support for the mkv container, would save me some time remuxing some videos. And while we are at it, recording in FullHD should be 1920x1080, not 1920x1088.
3. The thing I would like the most would be a pure Android OS, without all the LG stuff (Facebook for LG etc.), F-Secure and such. This way I would be able to choose the applications that should be installed on my phone.
My few "complaints", other than that, best phone I have ever had

Then call the support number on their website. The message they gave me is that they are wayting for feedback before they release a patch
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KernelCrap said:
3. The thing I would like the most would be a pure Android OS, without all the LG stuff (Facebook for LG etc.), F-Secure and such. This way I would be able to choose the applications that should be installed on my phone.
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According to what I have heard the Android OS that is running on the LG is as "close" to Vanilla Android you will get with an custom UI. So apparently LG is not too deeply rooted in the OS as say HTC are.

The public reasoning for the close to stock approach is because they want the hard core of the android development community to program for the device another example is the unlocked bootloader and easy rooting. Sure you loose your warranty but its easy to do.
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Great thread, magfal. I hope users here use their voices & inform LG of all the bugs they've encountered. I'm glad LG wants ownership opinion, & now it's up to us to push for change.

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According to what I have heard the Android OS that is running on the LG is as "close" to Vanilla Android you will get with an custom UI. So apparently LG is not too deeply rooted in the OS as say HTC are.
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It's totally true. There's no framework integration except for:
Music bar in shade
Font engine
Toggle buttons in shade
Graphics
It's completely unlike Sense or Blur, you can simply remove the bits you don't want and replace them with stock Android stuff (except the actual framework).
There no extra system process or services running as a result of LG framework mods on the O2x - it's a "raw" as it can get whilst still being an "LG Phone".
The only things that are tightly integrated are the Music controls and font management and you can hardly blame them for that, they're better than stock Android. My problem is that the music controls only work with the LG Music app so they're useless to me (PlayerPro). Modding this is what resulted in my temp brick...

Lets keep on track here but the issue i see as the most important in your post is the ability to use the player controls with third party music players. Call lg and tell them what you think they should improve
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New skype release today!

http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/30/skype-for-android-now-support-video-calls-works-over-wifi-and-3g/
Not working on the transformer or the gtablet yet. But hopefully we'll get a working app soon either from microsoft or from the dev community.
I tried a patched version that took out the restriction. It force closes when trying to accept a call and enable video, but the settings and buttons show up...
gtab
Can some one upload the APK when they get the new video skype so we can try this on the gtablet.
Here's the issue, I think...
The support for video chat requires Gingerbread. If I understand correctly, this is because GB finally introduced a standard API to access the front camera.
Until Gingerbread did this, all apps that accessed the camera needed their own drivers to do so (there was no standard camera driver to access back then, which is why apps needed to have built in support for specific devices).
Skype is using this to their advantage by releasing an app that doesn't require much code change to support device almost any device (why they are only supporting specific devices at a time is mostly political AFAIK).
But here's the problem- There is no official Gingerbread for our hardware! All the GB roms we have are hacked together with peices of code with missing native hardware drivers since they don't exist! That means, I would guess, the new Gingerbread camera API is USELESS BECAUSE GINGERBREAD LACKS THE NATIVE HARDWARE SUPPORT!
Yes, this is awfully depressing. But without a real Official Gingerbread rom, unless Skype starts offering Froyo camera support (unlikely since they would go back to the old problem of suporting each camera hardware individually), this is just not going to happen.
Maybe if the rumors of official Honeycomb drivers turn out to be true, and Skype eventually supports video with HC (another *IF*), then maybe. But that's a long way off.
Very depressing- I was very excited about this working until I came to this realization.
Wrong thread.
How's that? Looks like the correct thread to me.
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How's that? Looks like the correct thread to me.
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I meant myself. I put a post here and then realized it was meant for elsewhere. Multiple windows openned.
Here's the apk for the new released skype vid app.

[Q] New to Android.....

I'm new to all this Android stuff. Had Blackberrys forever. What exactly ist it to root the phone, how "dangerous" is it, and what exactly are the benefits to doing it?
I now have two Android devices, the LG Revolution, and a Dell Streak 7.
Thanks for your patience.
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I'm new to all this Android stuff. Had Blackberrys forever. What exactly ist it to root the phone, how "dangerous" is it, and what exactly are the benefits to doing it?
I now have two Android devices, the LG Revolution, and a Dell Streak 7.
Thanks for your patience.
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Rooting the phone gives you access to the protected areas of the phone. As far as how dangerous it is, that depends on the ability of the end user to carefully follow directions
The advantage is that you can customize your phone as you see fit. The manufacturers place certain software on your phone that may actually hinder you from using your phone to its full potential (i.e. Microsoft Bing, and Verizon Navigation).
Once you remove these additions, you can add the Google counterparts (for free) that make your phone far more functional, and eliminates the need to pay third parties (like Verizon for Navigation).
You can also install new images on to your system that does most of this work for you (meaning you don't have to be a developer to get rid of those services as someone else has done it for you). With some ROMs, it increases speed (overclocking), gives you functionality you didn't previously have (wireless tether - the free kind), and allows you to skin the parts of the interface that can't be skinned with a home app replacement.
Typically speaking, if you are using a stock home-screen, and the original firmware, you are getting the worst experience from your phone. Counting on developers, however, can have it's down side. Since they are working for you to get the perfect phone, but aren't perfect by nature, there can be bugs and flaws as they are in the development process. Most developers want to release a quality product, so they continue working on their product until it is as close to perfect as conceivably possible.
The trickiest part is getting your phone rooted and putting CWM recovery on it. If you can follow the directions to a 't' without skipping or ignoring portions of the instructions, you will usually be home-free to do whatever you want with your phone.
twillet50 said:
I'm new to all this Android stuff. Had Blackberrys forever. What exactly ist it to root the phone, how "dangerous" is it, and what exactly are the benefits to doing it?
I now have two Android devices, the LG Revolution, and a Dell Streak 7.
Thanks for your patience.
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DUDE!!! you are in the exact same boat as me, and with the same devices! though i came from iphones.
I agree with majorpay. love the revolution and the streak7. i can never go back to ios now.
Ad Free! And console controllers!
Major, great explanation. I guess the thing I would add is the use of apps that remove ads. And something that kind of big right now is using a console Bluetooth controller, like the sixaxis (PS3) and wiimote apps. My wiimote syncs up perfectly with my rooted Droid 1. Gotta try the PS3 app. Neither worked on my stock LG Revolution.
As to what root exactly does...
"root" is the "Administrator" so to say in Linux and UNIX. You can do anything as root, and it technically (from a secure point) should never be used.
If you own root, you own everything. When you root your phone, you gain the ability to access the root user, which most providers do NOT want you do.
As majorpay said before, you have the ability to remove bloatware, and apps like Bing and Verizon apps which come pre-installed on the phone. This takes up space, uses memory, and you can't uninstall them. With root you have the ability to override Verizon's apps (per say) and delete them, then reinstall them with Google's non 3rd party apps which are free.
If anyone is familiar with "jailbreaking" it is the exact same thing, gaining access to the root user for the iPhone / iPod touch.
I have never used BB before, so I don't know if there is something similar to rooting...
TL;DR - It lets you do anything you want

[POLL] Key Lime Pie 5.0

Just out of curiosity, what does everyone want in the next version of Android? I honestly don't know what Google will come up with but judging by the current roll Google has been from Gingerbread to ICS and ICS to JB I am sure it will be pretty awesome.
Honestly? There only one thing. Better battery life and maybe an updated ui. New number means new color at least. Maybe red or built in themes even.
But if they add double the battery life I will be happy.
I also predict built in video chat similar to face time. I know apps have it and Google + has it. But I bet Google will let you choose to call or video chat from the native dialer.
Other than that. I don't know what else it needs. I love 4.2
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It's hard to innovate especially when what you can add to a phone has already been invented or added.
I think they need to fix the counterintuivity of the quick settings (double swipe down is useless), fix the awkward lock screen widgets, add in deeper customization (themes, custom quick settings, etc), add in better battery life, make the camera easy to use for everyone, add in all of the emojis instead of like half, multithread FOR the apps, and not make them do it themselves as android phones are becoming multi core and yet not many apps take advantage of it, fix the wifi to data handoff, and redo the God-awful wallpaper cropper.
And would it kill them to make sure each NEW uploaded app is up to the design standards? I'm sick and tired of using apps designed for android 2.1 when I'm running a completely different UI on 4.2.1
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I think they need to fix the counterintuivity of the quick settings (double swipe down is useless), fix the awkward lock screen widgets, add in deeper customization (themes, custom quick settings, etc), add in better battery life, make the camera easy to use for everyone, add in all of the emojis instead of like half, multithread FOR the apps, and not make them do it themselves as android phones are becoming multi core and yet not many apps take advantage of it, fix the wifi to data handoff, and redo the God-awful wallpaper cropper.
And would it kill them to make sure each NEW uploaded app is up to the design standards? I'm sick and tired of using apps designed for android 2.1 when I'm running a completely different UI on 4.2.1
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Everything you said + multiscreen like the note 2.
I don't want any new features, I want them to work on perfecting what they've already built.
1. Backup and restore management. No more using titanium backup and having to be root to restore app data. Plus knowing how many devices you have so also having the ability to sync your data across devices or not.
2. Merge messaging services. Get rid of Google+ Messenger and get GTalk on the play store. Unification of the messenger app.
3. Integrate Google+ with games, like games centre in iOS. It is optional for the end user to use.
4. More customisation for the toggle on the swipe menu from the navigation menu.
5. There was a person who speed up ICS by 200% by just optimising the Android build. I think he has checked it back into the open source project so basically add that or taking ideas from that which should increase performance and battery life in the OS.
6. Start the availability of Chrome apps to run natively on android. This will reduce fragmentation if Chrome gets on the same release cycle as it's desktop counterparts, you can start build apps with HTML5 and native client therefore application not only can run across devices but also stay upto date. Basically when you launch a Chrome app, it feels you running a normal application, but chrome is running it in the background.
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[Q] Considering switching from HTC One to 1020; have questions

As the title suggests, I'm considering jumping from my HTC One to the Nokia Lumia 1020, and I have some questions. If this is the wrong forum, I'm sorry.
1. Is it possible (even through a hack) to set a homescreen background? I used to do this on the WP 7 themes on my iPhone, and it looked great with transparent tiles.
2. Has Google gotten into WP8? Voice, Gmail, Play Music?
3. Photo editing. What sort of post-processing options are there? I must have had 10gb of just photo apps on my iPhone, and I'm kinda struggling now on Android.
4. Keyboards? I've become a Swiftkey addict. Is there anything comparable to this in Redmond's garden?
5. Twitter and Facebook? My fiance has a Lumia 900, however her Facebook and Twitter apps look awful. Tweetbot was the best Twitter client I've ever used, so my standards are high.
Thank you in advance for any insight.
Start screen backgrounds are still not supported. There are pseudo-hacks to do it, using a large array of customized tiles, but there's still black or white behind them. The hacking scene or WP8 has been very limited.
Gmail works fine on WP8, as it did on WP7. There's no official app that I know of, though. Google has no official Music app for the OS, but there are plenty of third party ones (I cannot comment on the quality as I use Pandora and Zune/Xbox Music Pass). There's also Nokia's music app, which I don't use. Google Voice is similar; no official app but several third-party ones, and WP8 allows apps to integrate into the phone system and to continue calls when backgrounded (this is how Skype works).
Lots of photo editing apps, plus time-of-shot "filters". I have no idea of their quality as a PC is, and always will be, better at that task.
Sadly, custom keyboards are not currently supported at all. The built-in keyboard is excellent, with nice new features like next-word prediction, but it's not customizable or aimed at specific nich users, nor is it (yet) replaceable.
I don't use Twitter, even the integrated functionality. The new version of the Facebook app is excellent, though. It's much faster, has more features, and looks better than the old app.
GoodDayToDie said:
Start screen backgrounds are still not supported. There are pseudo-hacks to do it, using a large array of customized tiles, but there's still black or white behind them. The hacking scene or WP8 has been very limited.
Gmail works fine on WP8, as it did on WP7. There's no official app that I know of, though. Google has no official Music app for the OS, but there are plenty of third party ones (I cannot comment on the quality as I use Pandora and Zune/Xbox Music Pass). There's also Nokia's music app, which I don't use. Google Voice is similar; no official app but several third-party ones, and WP8 allows apps to integrate into the phone system and to continue calls when backgrounded (this is how Skype works).
Lots of photo editing apps, plus time-of-shot "filters". I have no idea of their quality as a PC is, and always will be, better at that task.
Sadly, custom keyboards are not currently supported at all. The built-in keyboard is excellent, with nice new features like next-word prediction, but it's not customizable or aimed at specific nich users, nor is it (yet) replaceable.
I don't use Twitter, even the integrated functionality. The new version of the Facebook app is excellent, though. It's much faster, has more features, and looks better than the old app.
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Thanks for the responses. With regards to music, I had a 64gb iPhone 4S and still have an active subscription to iTunes in the Cloud. So I could store most of my music on my phone, and have access to the rest as needed. My One is only 32gb, so I keep some music on it, and the rest I stream via Google Play.
As for Google, does WP8 integrate with Google Voice at all? Or is there at least an app?
With photos, there are some apps from iOS that I truely miss, and haven't seen any alternatives on Android as of yet. I fear my pickings will be even slimmer on WP8.
Does the built in keyboard have anything akin to Swype? I'm fairly certain my girls WP7 does not.
As my girl does have WP7, she can't upgrade to the newest Facebook and is thus stuck with the awful one she currently has.
Thanks again.
As I mentioned, there are apps for streaming music from Google. Nothing official, but the reviews say they work.
There's one app I can find in the store, "Spare Phone", which claims to integrate somewhat (and has the WP8-specific app capability to do so). However, it looks like it can't recieve GV calls directly (forward to your mobile number or take voicemail notifications only) when it's in the background. I'm pretty sure the dev could fix this with enough effort. The app costs $3.49 USD, so I can't easily test if for you. There's no OS-level integration with GV, which doesn't surprise me in the least. Google is Microsoft's biggest competitor in this space...
I have no real idea what the photo app situation is like. There are tons of them, some well-rated, plus some built-in features of the OS. I still prefer to do my photo editing with the power and precision of a PC, though, so I haven't tried. The photos are overcompressed as is (all smartphone photos are), so manipulating them tends to produce artifacts anyhow.
Nothing like Swype, sorry. Microsoft really needs to get with the picture there. It's especially sad/funny, considering that Swype was originally for Windows Mobile and (according to a guy I know who works there) they'd be happy to bring it to WP, but MS hasn't allowed it yet.
Most of my FB on the phone is just done using the built-in integration (People hub, Messaging hub. etc.), but the new WP8 app really is excellent.
1. No you can't set homescreen background. I hope it will be coming in WP Blue update.
2.Gmail works fine, Xbox music is very much better option.
3. WP store is full of lots of photo editing apps, 1020 itself has proshot app. I think you would be very happy in this department.
4.No, unfortunately but you can expect it in updates.
5. Both official apps are very very good. FB just got updated and it's very good. You can also have beta app which updates continuously so FB support from MS is very much active. Official twitter app has everything you want, same as its iOS & Android counter part.
Instagram has 3rd party app instance which is very good, even you can save photo in it. Official Vine app is coming till then 6 sec is available.
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Google Voice is handled quite nicely by Metrotalk. It takes some work to get setup properly, but once setup works very seamlessly.
Google has no official apps (aside from a poor Google search app) on Windows Phone, and the only thing known on the horizon is an official YouTube app (a joint project between Microsoft and Google). Otherwise Google has been pretty anti-Windows Phone. If you want the quality and selection of Google apps and services that you find on an Android phone, you simply won't get it anywhere except Android. Windows Phone and even iPhone don't compare to what Google offers on it's own platform. There are third party apps, and some of them are decent.
The Twitter and Facebook apps for WP8 now very closely match the functionality and look/feel of their official counterparts on iOS and Android. They still aren't as awesome, but thankfully, because of the tight OS integration, they aren't necessarily needed as much as you would need them on iOS or Android.
Nothing close to Swype and I'm gonna take a guess and say that it won't be coming anytime soon. There just isn't a demand for it. Clearly there is one here on this site (and other enthusiast sites), but this is a site made up of hardcore tweakers and enthusiasts. In the real world, most people do not know what Swype is and simply don't bother to learn it even if it is available to them. The Windows Phone keyboard is an excellent stock keyboard, and with some of the improvements being seen in Windows 8.1, you can expect it to get better as time goes on.
Almost any kind of configuring, tweaking, or hacking you may be used to on Android goes out the window with Windows Phone 8. For the most part, the operating system just works, so you don't always need it (like iOS), but some people still have that itch to tweak, and if that's you, Windows Phone 8 may not make you happy. But then again, I used to be that type of person, but once I got used to a platform that just worked and didn't need me to go ROM hunting every week, its just became so much better. The operating system is just so much more secure than WP7 or Android, so there isn't much of a development/hacking community for it.
As with any upgrade, new line, or purchase, you should have an opportunity to try it for a bit before you go past the point of no return. So your best bet is to try it as your main driver for a week and see how it works for you.
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The operating system is just so much more secure than WP7 or Android, so there isn't much of a development/hacking community for it.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Security, in the context of operating systems or really anything else, is about granting or revoking authorization for access or activity. The key point, there, is "authorization". Authority is a property of ownership. However, I actually have relatively (compared to other OSes) little ability to authorize, *or* revoke authorization for, actions occurring on what is nominally my phone. So, which of the following is true?
A) It's not my phone; it's actually owned by Microsoft, the OEM, and the operator (but mostly Microsoft).
B) The OS is "so much more" locked down than WP7 or Android, and is actually pretty meager on security features.
Did you know that on some Android ROMs, you can do things like prevent apps from making using of certain capabilities while still using the app? That on WP7, you can disable the "Microsoft, may I install or run sideloaded apps?" check that the OS makes periodically without your authorization? Now *that* is an increase in security!
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Security, in the context of operating systems or really anything else, is about granting or revoking authorization for access or activity. The key point, there, is "authorization". Authority is a property of ownership. However, I actually have relatively (compared to other OSes) little ability to authorize, *or* revoke authorization for, actions occurring on what is nominally my phone. So, which of the following is true?
A) It's not my phone; it's actually owned by Microsoft, the OEM, and the operator (but mostly Microsoft).
B) The OS is "so much more" locked down than WP7 or Android, and is actually pretty meager on security features.
Did you know that on some Android ROMs, you can do things like prevent apps from making using of certain capabilities while still using the app? That on WP7, you can disable the "Microsoft, may I install or run sideloaded apps?" check that the OS makes periodically without your authorization? Now *that* is an increase in security!
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Whether the product is yours or not does not matter much here. At its base level, all the platforms are "locked down" to a certain extent, some more than others, and what you can do is limited by what the OEMs (Microsoft, Apple, or Google) say you can do. Now you can go ahead and throw hacks at it, tear it apart, or throw money at it to completely change it, but that's going beyond the scope of this discussion. They choose what permissions you may alter or ask for. Finding loopholes to get around permissions or authorization goes beyond what the original manufacturer intended, but its pretty fair to say that its far easier to circumvent security on Android than on any other platform. Android's inherently more "open" platform allows for greater risk at times because it isn't as locked down as iOS or Windows Phone.
That being said, being more locked down inherently offers more security or at the very least, piece of mind, whether that be protection from scripts or hacks, viruses, financial security, or just preventing errors/crashes. Denying or granting access to certain activities, or just flat out not having the option to deny/grant certain activities can be the base for a safer, more reliable, more secure operating environment. "Security" and being "locked down", in some cases, go hand in hand. Of course it can mean many different things to many people.
Now you could also be referring to other "security" features like corporate encryption policies or secure NFC or stuff like that, but that wasn't part of the original discussion, so my use of the word security does not include any of that, but I understand that certainly those types of security features may or may not exist between platforms.
So I have another question.
I've been quite spoiled by 64gb of storage on my 4S combined with iTunes in the Cloud and lately been forced to stream from Play Music due to my One only having 32gb of storage.
Does WP8 have any sort of set up where I upload my music collection to the cloud and can download/stream from there? I do have a 50gb AT&T Locker account, but I'd rather use something that's a little more polished.
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So I have another question.
I've been quite spoiled by 64gb of storage on my 4S combined with iTunes in the Cloud and lately been forced to stream from Play Music due to my One only having 32gb of storage.
Does WP8 have any sort of set up where I upload my music collection to the cloud and can download/stream from there? I do have a 50gb AT&T Locker account, but I'd rather use something that's a little more polished.
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Yes, you have 7GB of skydrive space for free, can be increased for additional cost.
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Yes, you have 7GB of skydrive space for free, can be increased for additional cost.
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I have over 60 gigs of music alone.
OGhoul said:
I have over 60 gigs of music alone.
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I doubt anybody is going to give you 60 gigs of storage for free (ATT does not count, since you pay for it anyway)
There are apps which can stream from Google Music.
Alternatively, get a phone that has a microSD slot; my ATIV S has 80GB of total local storage, never mind the amount I have in my butt.
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I doubt anybody is going to give you 60 gigs of storage for free (ATT does not count, since you pay for it anyway)
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iCloud.
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iCloud.
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so then what's the problem?
I mean, you can stream it the same way you did on your HTC one.
But unless you want that camera badly, there is no real reason to get the lumia 1020.
lumia 820 or Ativ S are probably better for you.
mcosmin222 said:
so then what's the problem?
I mean, you can stream it the same way you did on your HTC one.
But unless you want that camera badly, there is no real reason to get the lumia 1020.
lumia 820 or Ativ S are probably better for you.
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The camera is the reason I'm considering a WP. Don't get me wrong, I like the Metro UI. I would usually install a Metro theme on my iPhone when I had it. I'm tremendously underwhelmed with Android and in particular, the camera in my One, which is what prompted my questions.
Basically, if I can get WP8 to do things close to as seamless as they are on iOS, I'd really consider switching. If I'm reading this correctly, SkyDrive offers automatic syncing of photos to my PC from my phone, the way iCloud does?
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The camera is the reason I'm considering a WP. Don't get me wrong, I like the Metro UI. I would usually install a Metro theme on my iPhone when I had it. I'm tremendously underwhelmed with Android and in particular, the camera in my One, which is what prompted my questions.
Basically, if I can get WP8 to do things close to as seamless as they are on iOS, I'd really consider switching. If I'm reading this correctly, SkyDrive offers automatic syncing of photos to my PC from my phone, the way iCloud does?
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Yes windows phone will upload full res images to skydrive. Great feature actually. BTW have you looked at Xbox music? Its similar to Google play music and iTunes streaming. Take a look, it might be what your looking for: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/music
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Xbox music, Pandora, Nokia Music all work great on my 1020. And something new in WP8, it can sync from your iTunes library. (new WP8 desktop app, no more Zune app like used for WP7)
Did you ever get the 1020 and what were your thoughts?
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[Q] Looking to switch

hi people,
I'm looking to switch to WinPhone.
I've got a few quite good features on Android that I'd like to make sure I can have/reproduce on WinPhone too. May you help me with those ?
- Have ringer/notifications volume to get adjusted to ambient noise and/or calendar events automatically
- have a car mode
- have an event/place actions system (like Tasker or OnX)
Many many thanks
Fabio
- for ambient no...
- all this (car mode, task manager with close X) is available with upcoming GDR3 update or today for developer or via WP AppStudio...
notice: car connection with BT for hands free calls and audio reproduction is available long time ago in WP but with upcoming GDR3 come additional settings
I'd say it depends on what type of android user you are. If you just user the phone, sms, browsing and occasional app then you're fine. If you're a power user then you'll just get annoyed and frustrated at simple things that you use yo be able to do but now can't.
As I've said in the windows 1520 thread, its undoubtedly a gorgeous piece of hardware and is the prime drive for me to keep looking into windows phone. Dare I say it and definitely not trying to be a troll, but if it did run android, I'm sure myself and others would buy it in a flash.
Sticking with realities though, I don't think WP8 is quite there yet for the advanced android user. I'm still very concerned that without DPI settings/apps with phablet UI, that the 1520 is just going to be running blown up phone apps, like first gen android tablets, which is not ideal.
File browser is key and offers so much flexibility. Copying and sharing photos off your DSLR, sending whatever file you want through gmail, deleting downloaded files etc. Skydrive is not a suitable replacement, especially if you're not always on wifi/limited 4G data plans.
Apps is becoming less of an issue with most of the core apps there in some shape and using 3rd party official apps is not something I worry about. It is still an issue however for niche apps. Eg Niche medical apps, a reliable CHM file reader (reference text books), advanced pdf reader/editor with the ability to underline/comment/draw in.... I can go on. Even office 365 functionality that is supposedly a huge selling point is largely replaceable with Kingsoft office which is superb sans the synching (you just need the extra step of google drive).
Then there are the core google services which have really exploded in functionality to become more than just gimmicks in the past 12 months. – Chrome browser with its desktop session synching, google now with its local contextual searches, automatic G+ photo uploader (full size backups with auto enhancement unlike dropbox).
Lets not mention 3rd party accessory compatibility with Windows Phone...ie. there APIs are so closed that no BT keyboards work with it for example.
There's a lot which is being fixed and is "promised" to be fixed in upcoming updates from MS – unfortunately thats always been the story with WP as they play catchup, which I understand being a new OS. However, 12 months on, even basic things like notification centre, screen rotation lock, separate notification ringtones, separate notification/system volumes are still yet to be fixed/only being patched now.
In terms of positives of the windows phone os, to be honest there isn't anything that appeals to me that I'm not already experiencing in android. Metro UI I don't mind but can be hit and miss with no notification centre and when you're relying on 3rd party live tiles which don't always update frequently enough for your liking (and wit no option to change). Simplicity is always touted as a windows phone advantage, but to be honest I find android simple enough if you know what you're doing and the appeal is more for perhaps people new to smartphones. As an android user, the simplicity actually feels limiting as I can't get things to work exactly how I want it to. In short it's a matter of how much I can compromise when coming from Android to wp on the software side unfortunately.
Having said all this I'd still keep looking at WP due to Nokia's hardware and their general nailing of the camera (which android hasn't accomplished fully yet), but there needs to be a lot of improvement on the software side from MS and 3rd party developers before I can fully see myself changing platforms. As good as the hardware and camera may be, my smartphone is my mobile computer replacement and the OS needs to be able to function like that.
Perhaps when RT merges with 8.1 and a few more MS and Nokia updates roll out it'll get more capable and phablet friendly. But until that time I'm keep jealously watching and admiring in awe at the camera and hardware but deep down knowing I just can't do what I want to do on it right now.
YMMV.
Good luck!
Something like Tasker or automatic volume adjustment will require homebrew, or at least an OEM app; third-party apps aren't allowed to run continuously in the background (it's bad for performance and battery life) on WP.
thank to you all so far
is it possible to have voice driving directions in car (thinking of Here Drive) AND listen to music from another app at the same time ? Or view a Youtube video ? Is WP8 really multitask these days ?
chareos12 said:
thank to you all so far
is it possible to have voice driving directions in car (thinking of Here Drive) AND listen to music from another app at the same time ? Or view a Youtube video ? Is WP8 really multitask these days ?
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yes you can listen music and working here drive+ navigation in same time... music temporally get lower and pause when navigation give voice direction
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yes you can listen music and working here drive+ navigation in same time... music temporally get lower and pause when navigation give voice direction
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Youtube too ?
Man, I'm getting really impatient to make the switch
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Youtube too ?
Man, I'm getting really impatient to make the switch
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youtube no, because when you switch to start screen or other app automatically stop playing (but only tried in official YT app and SuperTube)
Here Drive will run fully in the background (battery warning: don't forget to stop it if you take a break somewhere short of your destination!) and will override other audio playback to give directions. Start Here Drive, enter directions and start navigation, then hit Start (or press-and-hold Back) and go to your media player app. You should continue getting turn-by-turn prompts. It doesn't actually pause the audio, which is annoying - you'll miss bits of songs or audiobooks, for example - but it works.

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