First of all, my google-fu is very weak. Furthermore, the forum search engine apparently hates me, so please don't say anything about research or searching. I've tried and failed spectacularly. Also, I'm something of a newbie, so please be merciful. Thank you.
My old ROM is starting to act up, so I'm looking for a fast and stable Windows Mobile 6.5.x ROM with TouchFlo3D. Other things I can't live without are the long-press End and Call keys and the long-press Power key drop-down menu (like in the Touch X ROMs by smaberg), but if those can be installed afterwards without messing the ROM up, they're not required in the ROM itself.
Also, I never use the Xperia Panels (always delete all the Panel stuff and re-bind the X-Panel key to Nitrogen ), so not having the Panel Manager would be a plus.
I have previously used mainly the Touch X ROMs (I'm a huge fan), but they're not available in 6.5, so I'm willing to experiment with some 6.5 in order to (hopefully) find a new favorite. My current ROM is the Touch X 10.9.1 Nuts, that's the kind of speed and reliability I'm used to.
What I mainly use my Xperia for:
Calling and texting, naturally (VITO SMS-Chat)
Getting up in the morning (ageye G-Alarm)
Music (Nitrogen)
Internet (Opera Mobile 10)
GPS (Google Maps)
Notes (OneNote Mobile)
Movies (Media Player)
I'm going to install all of those by myself, so don't worry about them.
Thanks in advance for any help, guys!
Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.
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Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.
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totally agree, so far Dynamics 2.0 is the best choice.
Dynamics 2.0 seems to have TF3D all right and I can do the long-press keys by myself. I'll surely try Dynamics out.
EDIT: Found the drop-down menu thingy, it's smaberg's Actionscreen.
try one of energy's roms. they are very fast and stable, with a host of customizations.
Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?
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Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?
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frankly speaking Dynamics seems like a rather new ROM (post Jan 2011) and since i 'decommissioned my X1 in Dec as a secondary phone to my Milestone 2, i havent gotten around trying it. however, from my experience of using many other ROMs, i personally found energy's ROMs to be really FAST and STABLE. it shouldnt take much getting used to as its based on the HTC HD2 (with the latest HTC sense).
if you are looking for raw speed, then go for the most basic version with the least applications. i think it should be labeled as sense 2018. however if you wanna save yourself the time from installing programs from nitrogen to opera, go for his sense 2019. and since he has skinned many variants, you can choose the design you like best.
hope it helps. if u really do want, i can try find some time over the weekend to flash the Dynamics ROM and let you know how it is. do let me know anyway.
cheers
BEFORE I FORGET
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886371
you can also check this out. ROMs which do not have TouchFlo or HTC Sense tend to be comparatively faster. though i havent personally tried pure, i heard some pretty good remarks on it.
my advice, if u can, try them both out. Pure and Energy, with and without Sense, and see which suits your personal needs the best.
hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
cheers
hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
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You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.
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You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.
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so sorry for the late reply. just got up from my nightly slumber...lol. anyways, glad to hear im not confusing. i tend to mix up my words sometimes.
oh ryt, i have never gotten any errors while flashing any ROMs but its good u got over it. anyhow, i do hope it is fast enough and stable enough for ur liking. as i said in my opinion of flashing many ROMs i found this the best, and hence the reason why i recommended it to u
do keep me posted on how ur finding it
EDIT: im sorry but i think i might have given you the wrong link for the PURE ROM. its actually Russel's Eclair I was on about. there arent many screenshots on it, but if you do read on you'll know that it is a very minimalistic ROM, which runs on WM6.1/6.5 without sense. and its been skinned like a stock ROM. the beta version i flashed in november was superb. you could give it a try as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776946
Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?
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Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?
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u see how he has skinned different variants? what i have tried was the glass version. its actually very smooth on my phone.
and yes, it might be a little complicated initially, but the more u mess around with your phone, the more you'll learn. as for dead shortcuts and non start ups, check through the thread to see if anybody has the same problems as you. if they do it might be a bug (and the cook might either be working on a fix, or there might already be one).
as i said earlier i havent tried dynamics as its a relatively new ROM. but touch X is considerably slower than energy in opinion, with very regular crashes. in my opinion, using everything from rotastrains to energy, this is by far the best ROM with Sense out there when i tested.
EDIT: if others have not reported the same problem as you, try a hard reset. if that doesnt solve it, ask the cook for advice by posting on the thread. you are sure to get a solution within 24 hours. im sure its just something simple to tweak around
I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...
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I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...
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well there is no such thing as a perfect custom ROM. all ROMs are plagued with bugs. the reason i recommended Energy in the first place, was because it crashes the least. u wouldnt need to soft reset your phone very much. also it starts up fast, and has amazingly good battery life for what it offers.
im glad to hear u managed to resolve the dead shortcuts. to be frank they didnt really bother me, as on the whole the user experience was what that mattered. and since most functions are accessible via the touch flo interface, you hardly ever need to use the start panel (if the speed bothers you)
Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.
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Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.
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thats good to hear, though i wouldnt entirely agree on you on the stability front. but its a subjective topic. anyway, enjoy the new ROM, and if u do need any help or advice there's a whole dedicated community here at ur disposal.
cheers
I tried to answer you four times, but each time I got the maintenance/overcapacity "Thank you for your understanding." -message when clicking Post and the forum ate my message.
For me Touch X often crashed when under strain (buffer overflow?) and not otherwise, but Energy crashes at random (when not in use, when opening the virtual keyboard) while not having the same issues Touch X has. So they're equally stabile, just in different ways.
EDIT: Just after posting this, the phone froze when it was charging and the screen was off... -.-
Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!
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Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!
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its quite odd that you have so many crash issues with Energy's ROM. I never had any of those issues u mentioned. Perhaps cuz mine is an older, more stable build. anyways, there is an older ROM by Rotastrain. its called blaze & devilution. brilliant eye candy. however the developer no longer develops for the device anymore, so dont expect any updates or bug fixes. give it a try. its not as fast as Energy's but i do hope it will sort out the crashing issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565055&highlight=blaze
I'm really fond of my current Energy ROM, but it keeps me on my toes all the time because I'm neurotically checking my phone every 15 minutes in case it has another SOD and I don't want to miss any calls because of that. Also, I'm now using another alarm clock besides the phone, because Energy has already SOD'd on me twice during the morning hours before the alarm and I don't want to be late for work.
So, I'll try every single Energy version, variation (well, all the good-looking ones... ) and build until I find one that doesn't have all the SODs and freezes. If all of them have, it's Dynamics 2.0 or Blaze or another ROM up next.
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Just wandering because I have wanted a Diamond from the very first time I set eyes on one. I am not into messing with it as much as I see most members are here. I surely would like to have a better, faster, stronger Diamond but not at the expense of having to reboot every other day, or having it do some weird thing just when I need it the most. I need to know, should I get one, given that I probably am too chicken to mod it? My main uses would be basic phone functions, camera and GPS. I am not really into music and surfing is really too slow and costly, except over WIFI, which I never seem to get when I really need it .
Thanks Wayne.
My Orange ROM is fine. No branding. Fast and stable. Does everyting you want
Installed a few extra apps like Tomtom and S2P (music player)
I have the NAM version available at best buy. No problems at all with the stock rom. Its fast stable, and the radios, gps, etc all work fine. Cant see flashing a rom when I have no problems with the stock rom and no performance issues. Fiddling is a different story. IMO the diamond needs some tweaking to reach its potential. An example would be that on mine at the tf3d home screen there is a soft button for phone which performs exactly the same as the hard button for phone. Cant figure out who thought it would be a good idea but I used advanced config to change the softkey to contacts.
I am happy with the phone, especially its compact size. I haven't flashed any ROM yet, just using the Telstra stock rom for the last 5 months. Very stable and no hard-reset so far. Though I think I would flash some other ROMs soon as I just can't resist the temptations and the excitement of playing with the phone.
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I have the NAM version available at best buy. No problems at all with the stock rom. Its fast stable, and the radios, gps, etc all work fine. Cant see flashing a rom when I have no problems with the stock rom and no performance issues. Fiddling is a different story. IMO the diamond needs some tweaking to reach its potential. An example would be that on mine at the tf3d home screen there is a soft button for phone which performs exactly the same as the hard button for phone. Cant figure out who thought it would be a good idea but I used advanced config to change the softkey to contacts.
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I have the US Version too, I got it from Ebay last week, and some tweaks via Advanced Config it's running like a champ! The only issue I have is every once in a while, TouchFlo 3F will freeze for what seems like forever, then start working again okay, I'm not sure if it's just normal or something is conflicting somewhere.
Using stock rom since first day i got my diamond, only hard reset once since, and thats the first day i got it
the only thing that irks me is the meager amount of device memory available
Looking through all the custom roms, doesnt really find one that suits me, so.. stock rom for me then
Stock Sprint ROM here... no issues, other than the phone's lack of device memory as stated above. Not much I can do there, and I like the look of Sprint's TF3D, so I'm keeping it.
been running stock UK ROM for six months and working fine. Would love to take some of the apps out that came with phone to free up memory such as IE and MSN, but can't do that without using a cooked ROM, and my need does not take me past the point of having a bricked phone to do it! I have installed some other programs (mostly games), but if you are using the phone for what you say you will have no bother at all with memory.
The only bad things about the phone is the battery life is rubbish with the stock 940 battery. I have upgraded to the 1340 one and that has solved all my problems, so I would say try and get one with the bigger battery with it (bear in mind it does make the phone slightly wider and the back cover is matt not gloss that comes with the larger battery).
Hope this helps.
Yes best phone i ever had
Very happy with the stock 1.93 ROM. I only reset maybe once every month, and the phone is on 24/7. Best thing I did was to disable TouchFlow 3D and install SPB Mobile Shell.
o2 German Stock Rom 1.93 with small reg. Tweaks. Runs fine and i am happy.
Wow, that's great to hear. I think you get too caught up in all the negative stuff when you do any kind of search on electronic devices. I am not apposed to flashing a new rom it is just that I know with every good thing there is always attached some weird and wonderful "bug". I am also not apposed to tweaking as I have done so with my Touch. Do any of you have any issues with the GPS? Again, a lot of negative stuff out there, especially about position lag. I just tried a CDMA version at Telus in Toronto, Canada and while playing with the Tflo 3D I noticed some lag at times. It was fast and smooth then it would not move then it seemed to catch up but I had already tried to move it again so it was all over the place then it would be okay. I am waiting for Rogers to get it and if not I might bite the bullet and get an unlocked one.
Thanks for all your replies it is nice to see that I do not have to flash a new rom to be happy.
Dhatw.
A happy one here too with a german stock ROM...
i love my stock rom, i have changed the www europe rom with the eastern Europe stock rom, foundit on an Romanian site.. basically is the same, and i have tried custom rom but they wore not of what i expected so i'm happy with my stock rom, until i learn how to cook mine
I love my diamond, stock unlocked US 3G.
Running stock WWE 1.93 ROM with minor tweaks, cant remember the last time I had to reset & on 24/7.
Top phone, best I've had yet !
Yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,
hapy too with my 1.93 htc rom
the only suggestion I have is
A) Flash the .08 radio (much better for gps easy and no hard reset)
B) use diamond tweak to customize your phone
C) disable quick gps (with diamond tweak)
i did a little bit of theme modding to get rid of most of the stinky T-Mobile branding, other than that everything is running fast and smooth.
would probably be faster and smoother by running another ROM / Radio, but i'm not bothered enough to tinker about that much, not yet anyway.
battery life is a bit crappy when you've got the heavyweights running (GPS/WiFi) but then you'd expect that. phone also gets very hot when charging or in heavy use.
keeps me warm in winter.
overall, i'm definitely happy. if ever i doubt getting this phone i'll put my sim back in my MDA Touch for an hour to remind myself of why i needed a new handset.
At first I was bothered by the battery life but now I either charge overnight or leave it in a cradle at work so it's not an issue, unless I go camping or something
I realised within a few weeks that I didn't like TF3D but, having got rid of it and the HTC Dialer & Volume Control, the Diamond is a much better device now.
I'm unsure if I'll get another HTC device but I'm hoping within the next year-and-a-bit they can come up with a device the same size with a better battery and TV out!
Edit - Oh yeah, not a stock ROM!
Hi all,
I flashed my Blackstone round about 100time since I get it last year.
Duty,Miri,kwbr,energy,xanny and so on.....even some not so public.
I found not even one which works bugfree.
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
So can someone tell me a working rom ?
Cheers
Alex
(my favorite is KWBRs 3.4.x with manila 2.1 atm)
if you feel kwbr ROM than stick with it...different people have different experience so the ultimate question about "Which ROM is the BEST???" can only solve and answered by the user it self
just try and try until you feel satisfied or if you feel not one ROMs here can satisfied you than maybe "stock ROM" is the best for you
tharighteous said:
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
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+1 on that. by now i am already used to that, but this is something i used to be annoyed about from the beginning. when i end a call i takes way too long!
since it is a phone the phone function should be working fast and reliable (sometimes i cant end a call at all/it takes around 1 minute). isnt there anyway to accelerate the phone function?
hdizzel
By default, there's a 3 second delay when you hang up the phone. You can reduce this or turn it off via registry or one of several programs like "HTCPedia HD Settings Tool"
Hi Guys,
I have also flashed many on my Blackstone and i agree with you guys that most of the ROM's are sluggish !!!
But recently i have installed "[ROM] [WWE, GER] [16.01.10] BlackDragon 1.9 Speed King (Manila 2.5, WM 6.5)" .. this one works like a charm ... trust me its way better than the others and its fast too ... Not as fast as the stock one though ... but you still like the difference ...
Download the English one
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609382
Cheers
Sreejith
i think it's more of a PDA than a phone
also, remember that ROM chefs focus on different parts of the ROM, making different things faster due to personal preferences. Also remember that there are limitations to Windows Mobile, making it a woeful user experience. Hopefully WM 7 will fix a lot of that - but if you can't put up with these limitations, i'd suggest switching to Android, iPhone, Symbian or WebOS
tharighteous said:
Hi all,
I flashed my Blackstone round about 100time since I get it last year.
Duty,Miri,kwbr,energy,xanny and so on.....even some not so public.
I found not even one which works bugfree.
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
So can someone tell me a working rom ?
Cheers
Alex
(my favorite is KWBRs 3.4.x with manila 2.1 atm)
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You got the answer already. simply NO.
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
tsalta said:
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
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+ 1 on this
No roms are completely bug free as we are all using ported versions of wm6.5 as it hasn't been released for the HD, and never will.
Cooks are doing the best they can with the materials on offer. The latest roms (wm6.5, manila 2.5+) will always be more sluggish than manila 2.1, so why not try one of those. Plenty of threads already exist discussing this
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I've reopened thread by OP request
touchhdizzel said:
+1 on that. by now i am already used to that, but this is something i used to be annoyed about from the beginning. when i end a call i takes way too long!
since it is a phone the phone function should be working fast and reliable (sometimes i cant end a call at all/it takes around 1 minute). isnt there anyway to accelerate the phone function?
hdizzel
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yeah , this is my main problem !
fireedo said:
if you feel kwbr ROM than stick with it...different people have different experience so the ultimate question about "Which ROM is the BEST???" can only solve and answered by the user it self
just try and try until you feel satisfied or if you feel not one ROMs here can satisfied you than maybe "stock ROM" is the best for you
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no its not about "which ROM is the best " !
its about a main issue in ALL roms !
Maybe I would have another favorite if main phone function wouldnt be buddy
And as you see I am not the only one...who ich at first interested in this.
All the additional options of the different Roms are quiete cool...
One better than another. But at least the whole ROM is nothing without the basic option.
And its a phone, no netbook, no notebook......
skulk3r said:
i think it's more of a PDA than a phone
also, remember that ROM chefs focus on different parts of the ROM, making different things faster due to personal preferences. Also remember that there are limitations to Windows Mobile, making it a woeful user experience. Hopefully WM 7 will fix a lot of that - but if you can't put up with these limitations, i'd suggest switching to Android, iPhone, Symbian or WebOS
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pda, phone.....however.
who cares about how it is called ? I think nobody.
What I bought is a cellphone at first.
With many other options......which are working fine.
A PC, notebook, netbook I got at least.
But how can it be that the very first option to call/be reachable is buggy?
Please remember...we dont talking about a 50$ cell !
There are 3 digits !
Last year, as I get it I payed 600€...
Further you day that one focus this option to be faster...someone else speeds up another app....
ahm...sorry that I dont understand why notbody picks up the main task in order to get a working cellphone.
And you say WinX will fix. Sounds like the same **** Microsoft told us as the made the roll out of Win98, SE , ME, XP. Vista and so on.
I cannot hear this anymore...sorry.
NOBODY is interested in NO-WORKING SOLUTIONS.
Look at the iPhone. Working. No problem.Happy users.
Is there no way to priorise the "phone-task"?
tsalta said:
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
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thanks for you answer.
but 1500is NOT what we are talking about !
maybe its a step to the right direction.
I am talking about you never can say if your HD is lucky to end a call.
its a mess.
there is no excuse for this....wheter from HTC nor from MS.
I remember a phone with a dialplate.....about 20 years ago.
As I wanted to stop a call - it did ! magic? I dont believe !
Is there no option to priorize this "phone task" ?
ss.sreejith said:
Hi Guys,
I have also flashed many on my Blackstone and i agree with you guys that most of the ROM's are sluggish !!!
But recently i have installed "[ROM] [WWE, GER] [16.01.10] BlackDragon 1.9 Speed King (Manila 2.5, WM 6.5)" .. this one works like a charm ... trust me its way better than the others and its fast too ... Not as fast as the stock one though ... but you still like the difference ...
Download the English one
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609382
Cheers
Sreejith
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THANKS FOR THIS HINT !
kwbr was my fav...until today !
Blackdragon is as good as you say !
Found only the problem, that the bluetooth adress is not show @settings.
further here at xda-dev the cooker of this rom is answering quiet fast to user-problems as you can see. offering cabs to fix issues.
I like it until now at least
mcdull said:
You got the answer already. simply NO.
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((((((((
dont hope your right, but i think you are right at least.
not a problem of the cooker....just the normale micro**** as all the time.
If I look onto the time I spend for my cellphone ...ohoh...
other people educate a child in this time.
its simply a mess.
tharighteous said:
pda, phone.....however.
who cares about how it is called ? I think nobody.
What I bought is a cellphone at first.
With many other options......which are working fine.
A PC, notebook, netbook I got at least.
But how can it be that the very first option to call/be reachable is buggy?
Please remember...we dont talking about a 50$ cell !
There are 3 digits !
Last year, as I get it I payed 600€...
Further you day that one focus this option to be faster...someone else speeds up another app....
ahm...sorry that I dont understand why notbody picks up the main task in order to get a working cellphone.
And you say WinX will fix. Sounds like the same **** Microsoft told us as the made the roll out of Win98, SE , ME, XP. Vista and so on.
I cannot hear this anymore...sorry.
NOBODY is interested in NO-WORKING SOLUTIONS.
Look at the iPhone. Working. No problem.Happy users.
Is there no way to priorise the "phone-task"?
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I totally agree with you, but you'r wrong. If you want a working phone, try STOCK ROM, but don't complaint about cooked ROMs, especially if every master wants the hi-end/last version. All those ROMs are beta...
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THANKS FOR THIS HINT !
kwbr was my fav...until today !
Blackdragon is as good as you say !
Found only the problem, that the bluetooth adress is not show @settings.
further here at xda-dev the cooker of this rom is answering quiet fast to user-problems as you can see. offering cabs to fix issues.
I like it until now at least
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Tommorow I recieve my HD. Will try this rom first! Thanks for this tip!
Hi,
i also switched back to manila 2.1 in topix rom. great roms! no bugs, very good performance. but why no manila 2.5?
as i read htc has released a win6.5 rom with manila 2.5 for the diamond 2. diamond 2 and blackstone have almost the same hardware. and i guess that a officially released rom from htc cant be that laggy. so it should be possible to produce a rom like this for the blackstone. it doesnt have to have the newest packages.
would be highly appreciated if one of the chefs could look into a fix to prioritize the phone task.
flashing blackdragon now. thx for the hint.
hdizzel
btw: still waiting for a landscape only rom. does anyone know if something like this has been released by one of our dear chefs??
update: blackdragon fast but topix faster (manila2.1) as expected
Hello guys ,
This is my first offiicial post here at XDA and my first hands on experience with a touch HD.
I spent a lot of time reading the wiki and the rest of the forum to try and understand the fone hardware and the software. I've been trying to install basic applications to see if it betters the performance according to my needs.
Now , before i decided to buy the touch HD.. i did a lot of research myself and i narrowed it down to two options . Either the touch pro 2 or the HD. And i decided to go for the HD because I did not like the slide out keyboard and I simply love the HD design.
Now my question is , Although both the touch pro 2 and the HD are similar in terms of hardware is there any option where I could flash the touch pro 2 ROM to the HD ?
I was playing around with my friends touch pro 2 today and I felt for a second that I should have bought the touch pro2 because of the amazing speed at which the touch flo 3D works on that. [ oh btw ,it was a touch pro 2 sprint version ]
I just need the same ROM in my HD and I will be very happy
Is this possible ? If not , any suggestions for a particular ROM that would get me very close to the same experience I had with the touch pro 2 ?
just a few things
To comment on the last question, I would like to say that a friend of mine just got the Touch Pro 2 from Verizon and we have tried 4 or 5 different custom ROMs on it. I noticed that his touch pro 2 did seem to perform slightly better than my Touch HD. It was true for pretty much all the ROMs that we tried, so I don't think you going to find any satisfaction from a Touch Pro 2 ROM on your HD, and rightfully so because their not intended for the HD because of radios and landscape keyboards and proximity sensors and speaker phone capabilities, TV-OUT option on the Touch Pro 2 (not available for the HD) etc, etc, etc. They aren't the same phone and they don't get the same ROMs.
To improve performance on the few short things that were mentioned at the beginning of this thread, do try the registry hack to remove the delay for end call, it helped me. It also helped me to remove the dialer's key tone. This really did improve dialing speed because I am a speed dialer, its very important to me, the key tone slows it down and I could imagine that the vibration feedback (vibration on touch dial and keyboard and other actions) also slows the operation of the device. I have noticed because the vibration feedback does not feel tactile to me, turning it off completely helped me to regain some of the speed that I felt was missing. Also I have tried installing a more legacy dialer on top of the original ROM dialer, that also improved the performance of the phone feature. Do yourself a favor and try those things and make sure you address the serious problem of the hold button being pressed while holding the phone to your face, too bad the Touch HD didn't come with a proximity sensor like the Touch Pro 2 does! Keep flashing bros, this is half the fun!
I got my captivate on launch day (well 2 days after due to shipping) I stayed with stock for awhile and just did the lag fix.. it was ok.. i think the first rom i did was cognition.. or perception one or the other then did the other after that.. ran those for a bit.. tried CM7 (i think that was in january?) then firefly then something else and then netflix hit.. and i went to Continuum (v5.4.1) and thats where i sit now.. and i'm about really to go back to a iphone (also i REALLY REALLY hate that idea.. i like the iphone it self but i cant stand apple)
heres my main issues. lockups and slow downs. my phone hasnt ever been prone to locking up. until about a month or so ago (a week or 2 after flashing continuum_) so i'm guessing its something i installed that continuum dosnt like or its continuum it self.. with way it looks like i'm probably gonna be flashing something else no idea what.. what ever it is i want to to support netflix (Suggestions?) as far as slow downs.. the away it sits now if i open up the browser and do a search then back out of that to my home screen it takes it a good 5-10 seconds to load the icons and widgets on my home screen.. very annoying might not seem like much very it dose get VERY old
i know most of that is due to the rom.. but that also brings up another concern i've having..
I like android.. i really do love the live wallpapers altho halk the time i dont have one selected due to it might be slowing down my phone (see above).. when updating apps on my phone (say having 2-3 apps to update and clicking the update all button) makes the phone SOOO laggy (had this on all roms i've used) that i cant even receive a phone call untill its done downloading and installing them all.. thats annoying but i can live with it.. another issue.. turning on wifi/bluetooth.. i turn off my wifi every day when i goto work np.. get off at 6am come home goto bed.. wake up and usually check my email ect.. and before that i turn on my wifi.. about 15% of the time it wont turn on.. it says error in the setting menu.. try a few times.. still error.. do i have to reboot the phone.. just to turn wifi on.. bluetooth does the same thing.. except alot less often (mainly because i only use bluetooth for my stereo headphone and thats maybe once a week)
now alot of that can probably be traced back to roms.. but.. if i want to keep using android am i going to have to constantly be changing roms to try and find whats the best? so far i'm flashing a new rom about every month (i know some of you do it every week)... and really i just want one thats gonna work.. all the time.. i know wheres gonna be bugs every now and then even teh jesus phone has them and has to be updated..but when it take my 15 seconds to unlock my phone because i just gotta text message and the screen fade out right as i pull it outta my pocket is getting old
now for hardware side LOL.. main issue.. the damn capacitive buttons i've made a post about this before.. and i know theres not much that can be done.. but MAN are they annoying.. 1/2 i have to repetatly hit the buttons just for them to see that i've hit them at all... some times its 10-20 times before i picks up that i hit the back button at all (i use back the most) The gps.. well at first (stock) was HORRIBLE 20 minutes to get a lock.. the last few roms i've used have worked better (usually gets a like in under 30 seconds but some times loses it.. for no real reason like i drive under a tree for 1 second.. but i RARELY use the gps.. last time i used it was months ago so not sure how i would work actually driving now.. usually use it for google maps and such
apps.. (here is the only point i'm gonna compare apple and android).. we all know apple has more apps blah blah blah.. BUT android isnt THAT far behind in number or apps.. my issue with them is 'polish' or quality of apps.. not sure if this is that iOS is easier to make thinks look 'good' or what but.. if you look at.. say HD wallpaper apps on android .. thes a ton of them and they all have a very.. plain GUI nothing special about them.. iOS seems to be better looking.. no necessarily better content but been GUI to the apps i do like the openness of the android market just about anything and everything is all in 1 market (altho i am liking amazons market free app a day) when as iOS you have the app store and cydia (and installious if you choose). your not gonna find any SNES emulators on the app store but you can find them on cydia where as on android they are all in the market (altho they did just purge them a bit ago but i'm starting to see them come back)
One thing i have noticed sence i got my andoid i play less games on it then i did my iphone
I know this has been kinda a rant and hopefully you can help me.. i do like my captivate.. but at the same time i am due for a upgrade anytime i want.. and i dont really see anything coming out on ATT that is really any better then my captivate (captivate runs everything i've tried just fine.. excpet needing certian roms for netflix and no hulu app support yet)
I guess i'm just looking for the fence see the greener grass.. logicly i know its no better... but the idea if just using it and not having alot of the issues i'm having now sounds VERY nice...
Sounds like you should wipe your system. I would recommend using Titanium Backup, especially the Pro version as it can automate the backup/restore process. Search around the forums and you can find how to go back to either stock 2.2 or 2.3. See if that makes a difference for ya.
I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too.
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast.
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you.
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I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Used a few AWD launch, twiz, sony erricson, launcher pro Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance. Current screen timeout is 1 minute.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too. only using 2 Fancy widget for clock and weather and the power widget oh and a widget for screen filter set to 20%
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast. i have been a issue really from the start..
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you. Yeah.. i've done this.. many times.. thats one issue i have.. is this gonna be a never ending cycle?
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10charters =P
Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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I have maybe 5-6 short cuts spread on 2-3 screens i keep everything other then handcent, mail, market, amazon market, gallery and camara in teh app tray
^ What zelendel said.
You could also try Zeam launcher. I've used that one in the past, and it's pretty snappy. Also, try turning the weather updates off on the fancy widget for a couple of days and see if that helps.
It doesn't have to be a never-ending cycle. In the same vein as what zelendel is suggesting, it might be worthwhile just to see how much you can simplify your interface and still live with how it works. I recently went from having 5 screens of shortcuts to 3, and I've noticed that the phone seems snappier overall.
Flash to stock KF1 Gingerbread and remove the bloatware. It runs Netflix great and I don't have many lag problems. If I do its when I'm trying to run music while browsing the internet while texting and having games open in the background. Other than that it really is a solid build since its straight from Samsung and isn't having to use a reoriented kernel. If that isn't what you like then try Serendipity 7, I tried GR-12 when Serendipity was in its early stages and it was nice, but I like the idea of having the *proper bootloaders (whether it really makes a difference, I don't know, but placebos are powerful).
sent from my KF1 Galaxy S Captivate
I'm using the Topaz 2.53 Stock rom Sense 2.5 with 2.1 Messaging (OS 5.2.21887 Manila 2.5.20113030.0) for almost a year now.
For a long time every thing worked great, messaging worked fast, the hebrew worked perfectly, even the cookie home tab was moderately fast.
In the last two-three months, I noticed that my topaz got significantly slower than it usually was, and that even right after a soft reset (56% of the memory is in use).
I can't understand what had happened, since I haven't installed any new software in the last six months, and haven't changed any setting too.
Has any one else had the same experience ?
hard reset or new phone will cure it.
Some good news and some bad news..
I did do a hard reset, and the phone worked as expected - like new.
I recomend installing the NeoS2007_Driverpack_3, it made the effects look smoother.
After installing CHT (1.8.5 btw) it got a little slower, and after synchronizing with outlook it went back to the original "old" state.
I can say that I could isolate the problem to the home tab, all other tabs are fast.
More over, I can say that overclocking the phone did not solve the problem (or have any effect for that matter).
Can someone tell my if the newer versions of CHT work faster ?
Or is it possible to make the clock smaller and add the flight mode as quicklink without CHT ?
Thanks
Diviner said:
Some good news and some bad news..
I did do a hard reset, and the phone worked as expected - like new.
I recomend installing the NeoS2007_Driverpack_3, it made the effects look smoother.
After installing CHT (1.8.5 btw) it got a little slower, and after synchronizing with outlook it went back to the original "old" state.
I can say that I could isolate the problem to the home tab, all other tabs are fast.
More over, I can say that overclocking the phone did not solve the problem (or have any effect for that matter).
Can someone tell my if the newer versions of CHT work faster ?
Or is it possible to make the clock smaller and add the flight mode as quicklink without CHT ?
Thanks
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hi, i got my Diamond2 in October 2009, so it is not even 2 years old now. the plastic body is not holding so tight anymore, I bought 3 more batteries hoping to last longer than 1 day of intensive (i used those batteries, which were significantly worse after 1-2 months of use and I am back to the original one again). I flashed the ROM several times, used tess for 1 day, duttythroy for 1 day, EnterpriseV for 1 day, and I sticked to EnergyROM with CHT 2.0.0.0 again. having 80mb of free ram after soft-reset is pretty ****ty, but what can I do? still better than using the stock ROM. the phone is slow since I started to use WM65. it was significantly faster on WM61, but the lack of WM65 features made me accept the slow-down.
necessary tweaks - use the advised amounts of cache (use Touch Tools to adjust it), disable animation, no clock flips... keep it to the "low detail game settings..."
tlsty
Happy end
I decided to give the new CHT (meaning 2.0) a try, and that made a big difference.
The home tab is not laggish any more, at least no more than all the other tabs.
Any way, my conclusion is to do a hard reset every once in a while, and more importantly, install every software in the right order.
Thanks guys
Why not performiung a Hard-SPL and get introduced to the awesome world of customRoms? You will be surprised how snappier TD2 feels on a 20922 build plus all the custom rom goodies
EDIT: Oops just read your last post, everything is fine now... but I would recommend you a custom rom based on a far newer build with Cookie HomeTab 2.0 cooked in. It makes a huge difference, believe me.
The problem with using new roms is the hebrew. I have now a rom that the hebrew language does not mess. I'm sure other hebrew speakers managed to overcome this problem even with the use of wm 6.5.x, but for me this rom good enough.
I might want to use the android (including the sense), once it could be made the native OS .
Hi guys, as you can see from my sig I owned a few HTC in these years and I moved on from WM to Android about 2 years ago.
I'm writing this post as a request of suggestion from you as I don't have any experience with how Android behave on Tytn II and it's not for me but for my dad..!
He's been using his Tytn II for quite some time so far and I wanted to know if you would suggest me to flash for him Android on his device.
Please before answering considere that it's not for me, it's for a man of a certain age (around 60) that doesn't want any complication and doesn't have any time to dedicate to solve any issue that my come from the process.
So if this would bring him an increase of its device performance and usability I would definetely go for it, but don't want to hear him complaining all the time bout me having ruined his phone because of FC or random reboots or whatever ...
Is there any ROM free of issues and stable enough?!
I enjoy changing kernels, roms and radios of my devices, but you got what I meant before right? Once again: it's not for me..!
Thanks everybody in advance for your suggestions
First of all, before recommending anything.
I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
As far as if problems will arise, these things will happens (IE: FC, etc...) Depending on how he use it too. But it can be control to the minimum.
From my experience all ROMs are pretty much the same as far a being stable. It will depends on features and a few other things.
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I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
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Well..he use his Tytn II as he would have used any "old style phone". No app or whatsoever installed a part from a navigator (which I installed..) ....and once that something was not working properly he didn't anything for about 6 months till I discovered it, PIM backupped everything and made a hard reset to get it back to its functionality...so I'd say: yeah if he need to he will learn, but he won't search by himself any workaround..
And the main problem is that we don't live anymore together, I'm currently at them just till Feb and then I'll b back to Athens where I live...so I won't be here to help him out..!
That said, he's quite tech friendly, he's on his PC all day long and part of his job is to build different sites for various committents...
But from your words I can understand it need far more attentions than I think my dad would like to give to this thing..
Best way is to ask him.
my 2 cents
Well, as far as I can see,
my TyTn II with android is faster, more reliable and overall most usable.
The touch screen feels more like a capacitive touchscreen rather than a resistive one (wich is actually what the TyTN has).
Regarding the "age" of your father, I think it's not a problem.
mine has the same age of yours and he's arguing with Samsung Bada Os every day...so I showed him how "easy" is Android regarding Bada and he was amazed.
the counterpart is that, if he want to move to Android, you have to set up the whole thing in every little piece:
Android version, htc overclock, hiding "dangerous" icons from the drawer (such as the root app ) so he can't cause any "damage" by hitting something wrong.
I'm currently running under Froyo on mine, and it's pretty faster as I said BUT...
sometimes it FC (well, I'm like an addicted to customisations, so it's pretty normal... xD), it freezes for a while, Launcher Pro will FC (I personally hate ADW), my battery drains fast (but again, is because I put all kind of custom on it...IE: live wallpapers, custom lockscreen etc etc)
IMO if you go to a pretty simple version (such as 1.6 or alike) it won't have any kind of problems...
I give you a tip:
google for simosoft project...
he developped an Android "emulator"... install it on his device and see his reactions... from there you can do everything: phone calls, text messaging, emailing (because it basically uses the WinMo programs ) and it's not a flashing rom, it's just a installable .cab file.
try and see
I think this is the best thing you can do to avoid any kind of "stress"...
otherwise, for instance, you can make a huge backup, flash a rom, make him try
and then, if in few days/weeks he can't go on with Android (wich IMO is impossible) you can revert it back to the useless WinMo
let me know :-D
Thanks for all the advices..I'll think about it & I'll let you know
Sent from my brain with Beats Audio using my psychic powers
I'd suggest leaving him with a good stable WM ROM. There are still newer ones but I my favorite was an old one by shifu. You might look for a WM rom that has not a lot of extras, good stability, and updated versions of any "aftermarket" apps.
Or, give him a haret install. If he likes it but complains that it is too slow, you can get more speed by installing nand. But don't do that until you know he likes it.