Hi,
I'm considering about IS purchase but wonder how much free internal memory does this phone have for user apps after the first power on? Original Desire's free memory for the user apps was total crap, how is the situation with IS? Thanks.
1.1GB Internal and mine came with a 8GB microSD card
LeanNSupreme said:
1.1GB Internal and mine came with a 8GB microSD card
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Are you saying that there was 1.1GB FREE internal memory for the additional apps installations? Am I right?
rimvydukas said:
Are you saying that there was 1.1GB FREE internal memory for the additional apps installations? Am I right?
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Yes that is correct. There is 1.1GB free internal memory for apps.
What Is The Free Ram In this HTC ...? Can it has more than 350 MB free just like GALAXY S........ i think Galaxy is the Best Phone till date..... it can also Challange Tegra2 Processors Handsets....
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I know there are 512MB RAM in Droid 3, in addition to 16G internal storage. However, I don't know what go to the RAM. Are the bloatware going to take part of it, or they are simply stored in the 16G internal storage? What about the OS?
Hope I can get some insights on this. Thanks.
i dont understand. your post sounds as if you think programs are installed on the RAM. they arent. RAM is random access memory, programs arent stored on here, they use RAM to run commands. The 16gb is what your programs will be installed to
Not all 512MB will show as total memory its around 370-380 I think that is because the graphics use some of the RAM. Some bloatware will preload into the RAM as well as some of your apps. But when RAM is needed for the program you are currently running lower priority apps preloaded will close. So even if you see bloatware running in the background it cannot take away RAM when you need it.
The 16GB is flash memory for installing programs, etc. Android is not like older versions of Windows Mobile where apps were installed directly to the RAM so the 16GB of memory and the 512MB of RAM are for two totally different tasks.
Thank you.
After I posted the question, I did some research on google. Basically your replies are pretty in line with what other say. The 512MB RAM is used when running program, and OS too. Motorola says there is a 1.5 secured storage space in the phone. I guess that is where the app are stored physically. When being run, the app will be loaded into RAM.
Yes, the sum of used RAM and free is less than 512MB. I guess the difference goes to the OS and graphics. That's what I learn after posting the question. If there is anything you think might help understand these terms, please share.
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newshook said:
Thank you.
After I posted the question, I did some research on google. Basically your replies are pretty in line with what other say. The 512MB RAM is used when running program, and OS too. Motorola says there is a 1.5 secured storage space in the phone. I guess that is where the app are stored physically. When being run, the app will be loaded into RAM.
Yes, the sum of used RAM and free is less than 512MB. I guess the difference goes to the OS and graphics. That's what I learn after posting the question. If there is anything you think might help understand these terms, please share.
Thanks for all the feedbacks.
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The ram is memory, the internal storage (both the 16gig and the secured partition/the 1.5 gig) are hard drives
how to make virtual ram in galaxy ace rooted s5830.....running ics'ed by snowpluralism....
n do it helps in smooth runnings...
and any disadvantages:highfive:
Ashish924 said:
how to make virtual ram in galaxy ace rooted s5830.....running ics'ed by snowpluralism....
n do it helps in smooth runnings...
and any disadvantages:highfive:
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Well, you can use a swap partition. CM7+ also has ram compression.
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NathanBookham said:
Well, you can use a swap partition. CM7+ also has ram compression.
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can u help me in that...i dont know how to do it...n also is it safe and effective....thanks
Ashish924 said:
can u help me in that...i dont know how to do it...n also is it safe and effective....thanks
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I've tried swapper 2, it's good. But have to understand each term they use in the app. Currently I'm now on RamExpander. Very good.
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I've tried swapper 2, it's good. But have to understand each term they use in the app. Currently I'm now on RamExpander. Very good.
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For me Ramexpander say is not compatible with Ace.
I heard swapping partition from sd card to increase the ram, sd card might get damaged!!, is it true?
Reduces SD Life so yes.
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but i guess you will change your sd card before it gets damaged so much, that you will notice.
i only had this once on a USB pendrive. it loses data since some weeks ago. but its about 8 years old.
lets say that todays SD cards have better lifetime than years old USB sticks. lets also say that you use your sd card more often than i used this stick (backups later car-radio). so we can say your SD card might have a bit less lifetime. lets say 6 years. in 6 years you will (most likely) have a new phone, sd cards are "oldies" and if not, 1TB cards are state-of-the-art.
so....yes you loose lifetime but i dont think you will use it till it "dies"
CJCord said:
but i guess you will change your sd card before it gets damaged so much, that you will notice.
i only had this once on a USB pendrive. it loses data since some weeks ago. but its about 8 years old.
lets say that todays SD cards have better lifetime than years old USB sticks. lets also say that you use your sd card more often than i used this stick (backups later car-radio). so we can say your SD card might have a bit less lifetime. lets say 6 years. in 6 years you will (most likely) have a new phone, sd cards are "oldies" and if not, 1TB cards are state-of-the-art.
so....yes you loose lifetime but i dont think you will use it till it "dies"
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It really depends on use. When I swapped i ate through my sdcard in less than 6 months.. so there you go. Keeping low swappinness will increase sd card life, but it does depend on use.
increasing ram by swapping sd card is effective to what extent...can any body tell me....does it bridge the gap of our low ram...
AND ANY OTHER DISADVANTAGE THAN REDUCING SD CARD LIFE
Blackstard said:
For me Ramexpander say is not compatible with Ace.
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Huh? I Don get u cozy mine is working fine. Downloaded from blackmarket
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Ashish924 said:
increasing ram by swapping sd card is effective to what extent...can any body tell me....does it bridge the gap of our low ram...
AND ANY OTHER DISADVANTAGE THAN REDUCING SD CARD LIFE
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That why the requirement need class 10 SDcard
You can use CM7 that uses less RAM!.. I just went from CM10 to CM7 and it really is an improvement for ACE as it uses a bit less RAM and that is noticeable.
thanx but no cm7
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You can use CM7 that uses less RAM!.. I just went from CM10 to CM7 and it really is an improvement for ACE as it uses a bit less RAM and that is noticeable.
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thanks...but i dont want cm7 as i dont like it....i want it in a stock rom...btw thanx
Ashish924 said:
how to make virtual ram in galaxy ace rooted s5830.....running ics'ed by snowpluralism....
n do it helps in smooth runnings...
and any disadvantages:highfive:
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there are quite a few apps for increasing the ram like ramexpander and swapper...
but before using these apps remember that the read and write speed of sd card(which is secondary storage) is vey less as compared to that of the internal ram.. and probably thats why ram is very expensive as compared to sd card...
so if you use these apps may take a bit longer to start and even the best of sd cards i.e. the class 10 one won't last longer than 6 months...
Increasing ram
Hi i install ram manager pro apk on gts5830i then i create a swap file 128mb using this apk, then on sd card i see swap file img does it mean my phone ram increased.... i didn't install any kernel for it... plz does tell me if it increase ram or not...
I tried something on a other phone from my neighbor. is a huawei with same specs than the galaxy ace..
I moved apps to SD card with link2SD and created a Swap file in the internal storage.
The internal storage is much faster than the SD card and much better for swap file.
sahil chandel said:
Hi i install ram manager pro apk on gts5830i then i create a swap file 128mb using this apk, then on sd card i see swap file img does it mean my phone ram increased.... i didn't install any kernel for it... plz does tell me if it increase ram or not...
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What is RAM
Random Access Memory (RAM) is temporary data storage that the CPU uses during calculations. The more RAM a device has, the more calculated results the CPU can store - which means less time the CPU has to do the same thing over and over again. In other words, the CPU can check RAM to see if it has already made a particular calculation in the recent past. If it has, it can use the pre-computed results instead of wasting processing time recomputing the same calculation. In short, more RAM means a more efficient (and faster) device.
SWAP
What is SWAP
Swap is, in short, virtual RAM. With swap, a small portion of the hard drive is set aside and used like RAM. The computer will attempt to keep as much information as possible in RAM until the RAM is full. At that point, the computer will begin moving inactive blocks of memory (called pages) to the hard disk, freeing up RAM for active processes. If one of the pages on the hard disk needs to be accessed again, it will be moved back into RAM, and a different inactive page in RAM will be moved onto the hard disk ('swapped'). The trade off is disks and SD cards are considerably slower than physical RAM, so when something needs to be swapped, there is a noticeable performance hit.
Unlike traditional swap, Android's Memory Manager kills inactive processes to free up memory. Android signals to the process, then the process will usually write out a small bit of specific information about its state (for example, Google Maps may write out the map view coordinates; Browser might write the URL of the page being viewed) and then the process exits. When you next access that application, it is restarted: the application is loaded from storage, and retrieves the state information that it saved when it last closed. In some applications, this makes it seem as if the application never closed at all. This is not much different from traditional swap, except that Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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when i read at this page.... gsmarena.com/htc_desire_c-4759.php
at the storage it has "4GB include" but the device has 90MB rom and 940MB memory...
anyone please explain that
p/s this is my first post and i'm from vietnam, sorry for my bad english.
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I don't exactly know how it works but you only get around 1GB of space you could actually use!
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Usuasable memory..
You are right. Both the websites and the box in which the phone is shipped shows the internal memory to be 4GB. But in reality this storage space is also used to store the phone's software. So the 4GB is actually partitioned into two parts, one storing the software and another part as the actual usable memory which can be used by the user. So you get a little less than 1GB of internal memory.. around 935mb or something. To know more.. go to HTC's website.
actually its split in three parts
1 part for the OS,sense,etc
2 0.94 gb for apps
3 ~90mb for storage (media,pictures etc)
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actually its split in three parts
1 part for the OS,sense,etc
2 0.94 gb for apps
3 ~90mb for storage (media,pictures etc)
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so part 1 take for 3GB??
apparently ICS+Sense 4.0+bloatware=3gb
it's like the galaxy s4, from 16gb you get ~10gb of user storage
imo this is just a marketing scheme something like internet speed ads. they say "internet speeds up to 150mbps" not 18mBps(even though it's the same thing) because ppl like big numbers ;the difference is you still have the same internet speed while with the phone the 4gb mem is a lie ....unless you format the whole internal memory and use the phone as a throwing weapon....
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apparently ICS+Sense 4.0+bloatware=3gb
it's like the galaxy s4, from 16gb you get ~10gb of user storage
imo this is just a marketing scheme something like internet speed ads. they say "internet speeds up to 150mbps" not 18mBps(even though it's the same thing) because ppl like big numbers ;the difference is you still have the same internet speed while with the phone the 4gb mem is a lie ....unless you format the whole internal memory and use the phone as a throwing weapon....
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thank bro
bogdy5 said:
apparently ICS+Sense 4.0+bloatware=3gb
it's like the galaxy s4, from 16gb you get ~10gb of user storage
imo this is just a marketing scheme something like internet speed ads. they say "internet speeds up to 150mbps" not 18mBps(even though it's the same thing) because ppl like big numbers ;the difference is you still have the same internet speed while with the phone the 4gb mem is a lie ....unless you format the whole internal memory and use the phone as a throwing weapon....
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and even though it has 512 MB RAM, we just get only 414 MB
Actually it is 512 or 414 mob of RAM..?
akashgartia said:
Actually it is 512 or 414 mob of RAM..?
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Our phone has 512mb RAM but the android system itself uses ~100mb so we get to use only 414mb
My wife is considering buying a I9305. She is currently using a I9100 and that particular device has a limit where only 2 GB of the internal SD-card can be used for storing apps, and by now she has used up all of the storage reserved for apps.
Is there such a limit on the I9305? Because, if there is a limit like on the I9100 this device won't be sufficient to store all her apps.
Will anyone please share how much memory they have available for apps on the I9305, give and take?
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Full internal memory is available.
Minus the 4gb taken by the system, there's at least 11gb left for everything else including apps on the internal storage.
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Hi.
Does anyone knows how to swap sd card for expand ram to 4GB with stock rom or any rom. Is it possible on z3 compact. Samsung's phones can do this. Can we add more ram with storage on Z3Compact ?
Why do you need more RAM?
CALLAVII said:
Hi.
Does anyone knows how to swap sd card for expand ram to 4GB with stock rom or any rom. Is it possible on z3 compact. Samsung's phones can do this. Can we add more ram with storage on Z3Compact ?
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RAM and SD cards work at totally different speeds.
You could swap storage and SD card, but not RAM and SD card.
CALLAVII said:
Hi.
Does anyone knows how to swap sd card for expand ram to 4GB with stock rom or any rom. Is it possible on z3 compact. Samsung's phones can do this. Can we add more ram with storage on Z3Compact ?
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bookworth is right, the difference in speed between the internal memory and the sd card with make it go slower not faster.
You could use Kernel Audituor to increase the Z-RAM size, this will give you more page file on internal memory, but I doubt very much you'll see any difference in performance. Unless you're getting 'out of memory' errors, I'd leave it alone.
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bookworth is right, the difference in speed between the internal memory and the sd card with make it go slower not faster.
You could use Kernel Audituor to increase the Z-RAM size, this will give you more page file on internal memory, but I doubt very much you'll see any difference in performance. Unless you're getting 'out of memory' errors, I'd leave it alone.
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So I can't upgrade my ram to 4gb with sdcard?
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So I can't upgrade my ram to 4gb with sdcard?
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why do you want 4Gb?
having more ram doesn't make the phone faster.
More ram is good for multitasking not a faster phone as Didgesteve said.
poobucket said:
More ram is good for multitasking not a faster phone as Didgesteve said.
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Yes I know it, I already wanna more multitasking experience, speed not important