Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?
The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?
It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.
olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
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Ok so i have no idea what's safe to kill and what's not.. Security level is set to low... A bunch of things I never seen or even run are in there..
Reason I ask is I seen some people say they'll have 200 free memory after running atk...me all I have is about 135/145...
Maps also just reappears on its own along with stock messaging...I use handcent.....
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Well after almost a complete day with it installed hasn't helped battery at all...may have even made it worst...
Now more appso auto starts...like maps even though I have yet to open it....
Also when I kill I get only 75/85 free mem.....
Some one has to know something...
Seems that atk may not help me...
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You don't need a task killer on these phones. The more you try to mess with how it works, the less battery life you will get. I get 2 days on a single charge, with daily usage.
I agree with miztaken1312. The system manages running apps pretty good on its own. I do have ATK installed but I only use it for a game or app that freezes and I can't "force stop" it from the built in running application list. To keep ATK from running in the background and wasting battery I keep it on the kill list so when I kill apps it kills itself until I open it again.
after reading in one thread about atk somewhere in xda, I agree with the author and immediately remove from gt my P1000. then after a few days without atk there are some things I want to ask:
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the killer task default samsung just ending not more than 4-5 applications where my habit to always use the back button from one application to another. this is much different where atk while still using 17-20s can reach the applications in turn. what makes the difference between this 2application?
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Since i'm back to defat task killer, i always been 80-90% of ram usage and everytime i killed it always been around 350 ram, way different with atk which might reached 175 of usage ram. What is all about?
I'm running with default GtP1000 firmware no rooting. Appreciate those whom willing to brighten me up about this free ram
Regards
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You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
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You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
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Meaning no need apps to clear-uninstall right? i can see that your device is rooted? yhanks for respond
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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I'll try to look at the bloat freezer
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Still curious what is the main different the way atk and default in killing task?
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the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
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the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
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I've seen the bloat frozen but it required root,mine not rooted yet
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I'be had fairly poor battery performance. When i went into running services i saw that quite a few were running that i didn't start up myself. Like Facebook. Tripit, hootsuite. I've made sure that notifications have been turned off but these apps are still loading up. Any way of making sure they don't load unless i manually load them?
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I've been using watchdog. It lets me know when an app is running in the background and lets me kill it. If there's an automatic solution, I'd like to know about it too.
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Agreed, task killers... kill batteries.
Honestly, having it run in the background doesn't kill your battery. Its the syncing. I'm assuming you are NOT rooted? If so, then there are a number of apps to help you, primarily Titanium Backup so you can FREEZE the app.
If you want to have a quick free fix, go under accounts, and turn off sync for those apps. Saves battery life like you wouldn't believe.
There's also an app called "LTE Switch" that brings you to the LTE Menu so you can switch to CDMA (Also a HUGE battery saver)
Good luck!
I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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None are showing under Accounts? Hmm, thats odd. Usually, when you first get your phone, it asks to set these up. What all apps start up upon reboot? And you are NOT rooted, correct? I'll do some research
I'm not using the Social Networking app. Standalone versions of Facebook, Hoot Suite, etc.
What I'm using is a program that is a part of my file explorer, ES Task Manager. Instead of KILLING the apps, I can force them at startup to not run. So I stopped Gun Bros and Contract Killer from running at startup because they had these annoying notifications they would send me about buying in-game stuff and really didn't need to be run at all. And I couldn't find a way to turn them off lol, so this works out well for me. If you don't want something running at startup, you can do it this way, and it could potentially help battery life because it would only run when you tell it to. And you need root access to do this.
Great suggestion
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Look for program called "Startup Manager" in market - works great!
hello...i used a auto start manager, works great..but i also want that when i close facebook from recent app that it kills the process...in rom tools task manager i see that facebook is a hidden app (like whatsapp) so the built-in task manager doesn't kill it when i close the app..any ideas how to make the facebook app "visible" so that the task manager auto kills it like other apps and games?
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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People say that but whenever I haven't used one, I can notice the difference in performance. My bionic runs better with ATK.
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well when my phone starts it has 170MB of memory but after like a day or two even if i close all the programs it will have like 90mb of memory. only a restart will restore the memory back to 170MB.
were does the 80MB memory disapere to?
is there anyway i can clean the memory back to 170MB without a restart for the phone?
bump
ICS caches apps that you use a lot to make them start up and run faster. This is normal. Go to settings > apps > running > cached.
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Get a Task killer
Install a Task killer that would allow you to kill all running processes in one click. You can easily get some on the play store.
kigordid said:
Install a Task killer that would allow you to kill all running processes in one click. You can easily get some on the play store.
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android has perfectly good memory management, task killers just consume battery due to them closing background process that should be running, they then have to reopen using valuable resources,a reboot once a day usually keeps things smooth.....old android adage.....free ram is wasted ram
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a reboot once a day usually keeps things smooth
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You should try an app called fast reboot/pro.
To the OP. Have a look at the datafix app on the play store. Very useful for the SGS.
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
NikosGREECE said:
Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.
Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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