I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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Since this has only been answered 100 times in the past three weeks...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=H+instead+of+3g+XDA
AND as far as the better speeds for the Iphone go......you can Google that as well............ I'm guessing your on At&T?
I don't know why but my buddies 3g was consistently hitting 300-350 kbs. The max I was hitting was like 150. We were right next to each other when we were testing this, I guess that the iphone blows the captivate away in 3g reception and speed. Also in the spotty areas he was keeping his 3g and I was dropping down to edge. Kinda disappointed . Had anyone else noticed that the 3g reception isn't that good our is it just my area?
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I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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this is why i hate american cell providers, they want you to remain ignorant. it's not your fault but it is funny that people arent familiar with grps, edge, hspa, and hspa+ it is like they are telling you that you are too stupid to understand so you dont need to know.
the cdma providers are the worst. but att should be proud of having hspa, but i think they want to hide the fact that it is not available in all 3g areas. instead they advertise the hspa speeds as there 3g speeds as hspa works on there 3g network. they dont distinguish the two so you think there network is so much faster in so many places
meanwhile verizon advertises the hspa coverage for att as 3g coverage to make att's coverage look smaller. they say they have so much more coverage, if they showed a current 3g map for att instead of the hspa coverage you would not see a big difference at all. also cdma 3g is totally different from what att has and is not a fair comparison in the first place. how can you compare coverage if the speed is not comparable?
Comparing phones side by side with speed test is also not the best way to test which device is faster, especially if they are on the same network. I am annoyed by the input on this device or Id go in depth. Use some google-foo and read on cell phone signaling and theory and youll see what I mean.
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I've seen alot of posts about people doing this. Why would you want to slow down your speed?
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Switching that only slows down internet transmission speed, so if you weren't using your data, or had no immediate plans to you could switch to EDGE- there's a significant difference in battery drain while using 3G
O ok. That makes sense. Think I'll look into that for when I'm at work. Thanks
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Some of us don't have 3G available anywhere near us lol
I keep mine on EDGE because there is a 3G tower just close enough to my house that my phone wants to switch to it constantly. I get about 0-2 bars off that tower but the non-3G tower 2 miles from my house gives me 5 bars. Battery life is nice, too.
Because some people get crappy 3g service but good 2g or edge and the captivate always uses the 3g when available so it can slow your phones internet down
So with T-Mobile's current 4G devices, G2 and myTouch 4G, they have signal indicators of 'G', 'E', and 'H'. Which indicate GPRS, EDGE, and HSPA. The 'H' has always indicated a 3G OR a 4G connection since it can't distinguish between HSPA and HSPA+
Since 4G is the same connection as the 3G one just bumped up with faster speeds, how could it possibly create a distinction between the two? The Streak clearly fluctuates between a 3G and 4G signal indicator at times but I don't see how this could work without it constantly doing a speed test.
Does anyone know the technical reasoning behind this? Is there a way to distinguish between HSPA and HSPA+ now?
The 4g signal is at a different frequency than 3g. The device realizes that, just like with 2g (E) and 3g, it sees the distinction in frequency and displays what is sees. Of course this just a hypothesis, but it seems about right
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But the 4G signal ISN'T different than the 3G one. T-Mobile just made it's 3G incredibly faster. That's why the G2 and myTouch 4G display an 'H'. Why didn't they put any differentiation in those devices? Those devices don't toggle between '3G' and 'H' they toggle between 'G', 'E', and 'H'. With 'H' meaning 3G speeds at the minimum and anything above that.
At first, I thought maybe the DS7 just displays '4G' all the time in place of 'H' but I was perplexed when it displayed a 3G indicator occasionally as well.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome if T-Mobile found some way to differentiate the two but as of right now it makes no technical sense and no one seems to notice.
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But the 4G signal ISN'T different than the 3G one. T-Mobile just made it's 3G incredibly faster. That's why the G2 and myTouch 4G display an 'H'. Why didn't they put any differentiation in those devices? Those devices don't toggle between '3G' and 'H' they toggle between 'G', 'E', and 'H'. With 'H' meaning 3G speeds at the minimum and anything above that.
At first, I thought maybe the DS7 just displays '4G' all the time in place of 'H' but I was perplexed when it displayed a 3G indicator occasionally as well.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome if T-Mobile found some way to differentiate the two but as of right now it makes no technical sense and no one seems to notice.
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I was wondering that myself. I am just north of downtown chicago. It shows it as 4g most of the time. When i go to the about phone screen, under status, it shows "Mobile Network Type: HSPA". Not HSPA+. Average speeds are around 2-3Mbps. Far cry from HSPA+
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I was wondering that myself. I am just north of downtown chicago. It shows it as 4g most of the time. When i go to the about phone screen, under status, it shows "Mobile Network Type: HSPA". Not HSPA+. Average speeds are around 2-3Mbps. Far cry from HSPA+
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I think its fair to call it HSPA+ ...but very likely bogged down HSPA+ because it may have been during peak hours where tons of people are using it at once. Remember, we're sharing bandwidth with people using 3G phones too.
Which brings me back to the original topic of this thread that I WISH someone would have the answer to.
When the Streak 7 shows 3G it means its connected on UMTS (384k max) when it shows 4G it could be on either HSPDA or HSPDA+ it cant tell the difference.
Like my nokia N900 said 3G for UMTS and 3.5G for HSPDA
"4g" speeds on dell streak 7
I posted this on twitter to Tmobile and some others but of course nobody responded. On my dell streak 7 with the icon showing 4g in a well covered HSPA+ area Ive maxed the speed out at 4mbps. Not terrible but it averages 1-2 mbps on 4g. Still not the worst and nothing crazy here. The thing is I have a mytouch 4g that I have speed tested the same place and time and same server and it nailed 7-10 mbps and averages 4-5mbps. I was frustrated but then when I tested out my nexus s speed tests at the same time as the dell streak and it beat the dell streak handily every single time that did it for me. I see the same thing with the motorola Atrix, I was able to speedtest one and it said H+ on the icon but still no more than 2mbps and I know thats att not the same as my tmobile connection but still to me 2mbps is NOT 4g! I understand the stress of the network can cause bad tests here and there but all that goes out the window when my "3g" only nexus whips the speed of a so called 4g device on the dell streak. I wanted to give it a chance but the crappy screen combined with slow speeds that are not the networks fault made me return it.
i posted the answer to the op's question. And that answer was taken from the streak 7 manual
I live in Southeast Missouri and it seems that when I'm at work (full bars of H signal) I get horrible data speed. My phone won't even load the Xda app. I've been through about 3 different modems and still get the same result. Is there anything I can do or is Att just f###ing us Android users again?
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The Bars indicate the signal strength and not necessarily the quality of your data connection. It is possible to have a good signal but still have slow speeds / poor data quality. It's like that where I work too. I've go good bars but the speed is slow. My coworker called ATT about it and they said they were in the process of getting new towers installed, or upgrade the old ones or something like that, in our area in order to increase the speeds available in the area. ATT told us that they do not throttle speeds but that it was an issue with the quality of the data connection in our area due to the towers in the area and how many people were using them versus the amount of bandwidth the available towers were capable of providing. I hope that gives you a better idea of what is probably going on for you.
I was looking at the 18MBPS LTE speeds in canada and was confused. I'm getting a consistant 14-17 MBPS on HSPA+. What's with the rush for LTE?
I got 17.56Mbps. However, according to the LTE thread, some people in Canada can get up to ~40-50 Mbps...
Did a speed test the other day on T-Mobile HSPA+ and I got over 20. Not bad considering my home internet connection is 25. My Nexus 4 is lightning fast on HSPA+, I'm not seeing the need to switch to LTE either for at least a couple more years.
I have reached 21 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload. LTE is average 30+ download and upload.
HSPA+ saves battery and LTE kills it.
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The reason LTE is better is that is generally has lower latency speeds and absolutely has faster upload speeds.
In the US, AT&T has terrible 3G speeds. But T-mobile's HSPA network is generally really fast. So it really depends on your provider. And yes, LTE has very little latency. But if you are on T-mobile and have great coverage, I don't think LTE would be a big change. Unless you are tethering, LTE vs HSPA+ is not a huge difference.
People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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The shift key?
I haven't had super stellar HSPA+ speeds around town (Portland, OR, on T-Mobile) but just now I did one and got 24.2Mbps down, 5Mbps up. :good: Good enough for me by far. That's faster than my home internet.
Edit: Wait, that was my home internet. Up too late last night... 13Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up. That's still not bad.
If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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Yes
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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But T-Mobile is going to construct an AWS LTE network in the US, and it will be newer than the LTE on other carriers.
People also forget.
What is the use of 50 Mbps download if the website you are looking at only displays at 10 Mbps up?
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
I have vzw lte and tmo hspa (via straight talk) with both I see ~10Mbps in and around southern california, so I too see no need to rush out for an LTE phone AND I figure the n5 will have it so in a year this will all be moot.
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
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Pre payed att you do require a smartphone plan to get the full speed. It will be like 50 bucks I believe..
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You guys are lucky. I literally get less than .2Mbps down/up where I live due to it being 2G :crying:. Always on my 30/5 WiFi. Sometimes I'll get upwards of 5 in the city. Some "4G" eh? T-Mobile is an absolute joke for me here and I HATE it.
LTE is king for latency.
I play a lot of counterstrike, and there used to be a regular who'd play over VZW LTE. Guy had lower latency than I did over cable. More important, he seemed completely fluid in the game-- no jitter or packet loss. Completely playable. That's huge.
Your thread title's pretty misleading. There is a big difference between 16.5MBPS and 16.5MbPS.
This thread is simply voting which data you use and why.
I personally am using 3G (HSPA+ 21) even though I could use 4G (I live in Canada), mainly because of the poor battery like I'm experiencing with this device if used on 4G.
So what are you using? And why?
Using 3G+ (42) because the 4G frequency in Australia doesn't work with the N4, or most phones unless a special model comes out like the 4G version of the S3
Just plain ol' 21/42 MBps H+
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3G, no choice, if 4G was an option I'd probably give it a shot but if I noticed extreme battery drain I would go back to 3G as well.
Edge
i live in canada too, but i did several tests, using 4g makes the voice call quality really bad. so i stick with 3g now
I use both... I get pretty decent speed on DC-HSPA about 20mbps down easy... I use lte mainly so i can stream youtube in hd instead of hq!
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HSDPA. 1 operator is just beginning to roll out 4G in the major cities here in Belgium, so no choice
And I don't think the LTE chip works here anyway.
I used Edge at work. it streams better for me. Always has. Since iphone 3g. I think its the building I work in. Soon as I leave it, H+ works like it should.
At home I use Wireless and 4g
Soooooo I'm not the only one who is preferring 3G over 4G? Yay lol
I would barf in my mouth before I use 3g.
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Faux G aka HSPA+ (21.1 and 14.4) w/EB here as well.
My Provider has just HSPA+ 15 but I mostly hav HSPA+ 10. But that's no problem at all, because I'm used to it. At home (on Computer) I get just about 7 so I'm totally happy.
3G is broken... Once this thing connects top umts or hspa 10 there's no data transmission until it finds hspa+15 again...
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3g in Canada. 4g decimates my battery, which is already kind of disappointing personally.
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A mix of EDGE, 21, and 42 depending on where I am during my day.
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GPRS/EDGE by preference, no point wasting battery power attempting to connect to crappy 3G signal!
3G for me. I've tried 4G and while I like the speeds, my battery takes a considerable hit.
I live in Canada as well. I've only just started using 4G for the past few days (Rogers) and I think I'm going to be sticking with it. Data speeds have improved significantly. I don't seem to have that decrease in voice call quality that someone else mentioned and my battery life is actually not that much worse compared to 3G.
Technically, there is not a network in the US that's adhering to the actual 4G standard. Verizon's LTE may offer slightly better latency, and a better upload speed than T-Mobile, but your wallet will be taking a huge hit, and you'll only have 2GB of data for $110 after taxes and FCC fees. Is LTE really worth more than $100 a month? I don't think so.
I'm using T-Mobile's network and I'm very happy with the speeds. If T-Mobile is prevalent in your area, and you don't travel very often to remote areas, their $30 prepaid plan is definitely worth it. I'm witnessing over 22Mb down on the 42Mbps towers, and I'm averaging roughly 10Mb down everywhere else. I'm about 35 miles from a major urban city, btw.