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Official iphone software from the people that made the GUI.

visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics

some comments on what you guys think about it would be nice lol

That is a powerfull homescreen plugin!!
Love it!!

I take it you are on about their product "X-Cube". Sadly, it's the product with the least amount of information. The O2 Active UI is also available on there (and seems to be free). Last time I used that was on my wizard where I removed it asap because it didn't appear able to cope.
I wonder if my Kaiser would manage it.
Good find!

yeah the active UI is the specific piece i was on about. It handles perfectly on a kaiser

fidly
can't really knock it as its be best i've seen bar htc's own. its not really clear enough fr me what each of the buttons do or mean. if its not intuitive then i can't recommend. it looks great and feels initially like you should love it however after5mins of working it i'm back to my htc home. sadly...

Love it, check this :

livefastdiefun87 said:
yeah the active UI is the specific piece i was on about. It handles perfectly on a kaiser
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Which one? I tried the one labelled "V2R Active UI v1.0" and it was a bit crappy, I had a whole pile of free things already which were better.
The one labelled Active UI Multitouch (which is shown in the picture above) had issues (praise be for safe mode) on my Kaiser, but I am guessing it is something to do with the fact that I don't use WMP and I have Mobile Shell installed.
I was hoping for something similar to the O2 Active UI which they are showcasing here -
http://www.v2r.ag/showcase/
I probably ought to go yoink the cab off my Wizard when I see my Dad next.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360941

well.....ummmm... i pointed out it was made by the iphone gui developers. lol. You beat me to that one damn oh well good find anyway

livefastdiefun87 said:
well.....ummmm... i pointed out it was made by the iphone gui developers. lol. You beat me to that one damn oh well good find anyway
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These guys had kinetic scrolling on the today screen before everybody else,they just never improved on the friction which made it too slow to make a splash.Then they sell you icons at this day and age.They obviously took a few tips from Apple.

This is true but when they were the creators of the GUI for the iphone they know the company will now be reputable enough to start charging for additional icon packs

livefastdiefun87 said:
This is true but when they were the creators of the GUI for the iphone they know the company will now be reputable enough to start charging for additional icon packs
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Stop lying and spreading this BS. These people had nothing to do with the iPhone's GUI. The iPhone's UI was wholly created in-house by Apple.
This whole topic is stupid.

HAHAHA considering I have spoken to members of this company in my job WORKING INTERNALLY FOR ORANGE I think youjust made a redundant comment there my good ol' chap

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Stop lying and spreading this BS. These people had nothing to do with the iPhone's GUI. The iPhone's UI was wholly created in-house by Apple.
This whole topic is stupid.
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Whoa Mr. Jobs Calm down.

pretty cool

livefastdiefun87 said:
visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
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Not sure what you're talking about, the iPhone GUI was produced by APPLE, not an external company. You must be dreaming...or maybe you just smoke some pot.
You just make a fool out of yourself by claiming this, just stop it.

P996 said:
Not sure what you're talking about, the iPhone GUI was produced by APPLE, not an external company. You must be dreaming...or maybe you just smoke some pot.
You just make a fool out of yourself by claiming this, just stop it.
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Remember though that Apple STOLE MacOS from Xerox. Just saying.
Oh and... Calm Down Mr. Jobs. No one is going to take your Apples.
Remember Pablo Picasso said: "Good artists copy; great artists steal."

livefastdiefun87 said:
visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
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This product is pretty crappy and slow compared to a lot others out there. I also had problems removing Point UI from my device... yuck.
It was slow to respond, setup was very frustrating and not very intuitive, programs are hard to find and difficult to sort through... No real improvements and it limits viewable area a lot with the "touch to open" feature taking up a big portion of the screen. If you want something like this I would go with Ultimate Launch or SPB Mobile Shell.

JimmyMcGee said:
Remember though that Apple STOLE MacOS from Xerox. Just saying.
Oh and... Calm Down Mr. Jobs. No one is going to take your Apples.
Remember Pablo Picasso said: "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
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I mainly use(and develop) Microsoft Windows products, even if I'm a registered member of the Apple Developer Network.
Not sure what you're trying to imply but following your twisted reality, Bill Gates stole Windows from Big Blue...well...he paid a couple of bucks for it.
Anyway, I'm still not sure what you're trying to say but one thing is for sure: Apple DID NOT outsource iPhone GUI development, this is a FACT and you can rant about it all day long, it doesn't change the truth.

A humble request to app developers

Could you please stop putting the word "droid" into the name of your apps? I mean come on! You guys are coming up with the most ingenious idea for the software, and then fall short with naming it. Here's the hard evidence: http://www.cyrket.com/search?q=droid We get it, it's on the Android Market, so it's gotta be for android. So please, for the love of Linus Torvalds, make up an original name!
Hope everyone realizes that this thread is written as joke, and not to be taken seriously. We all appreciate the devs' hard work and dedication to the Android OS and devices it lives on.
Death to iPod!

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Could you please stop putting the word "droid" into the name of your apps? I mean come on! You guys are coming up with the most ingenious idea for the software, and then fall short with naming it. Here's the hard evidence: http://www.cyrket.com/search?q=droid We get it, it's on the Android Market, so it's gotta be for android. So please, for the love of Linus Torvalds, make up an original name!
Hope everyone realizes that this thread is written as joke, and not to be taken seriously. We all appreciate the devs' hard work and dedication to the Android OS and devices it lives on.
Death to iPod!
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Why can't we use droid? lol, seems pretty original to me (in the context of the market). I don't see two transdroids, or mutliple piggybank droids. If it bugs you that much, just don't open the market anymore. lol

I kind of agree. To me its the same as as video games coming out being called Playstation Shooter, XBox Fighter, Nintendo RPG. It tells you what its for and sticks it to the platform. I understand that devs are developing for the Android but there are other platforms, whether you like them or not and especially those apps that are worth some money, it would be nice to see good work spread across the board. Having a name that would fit better on all platforms would be better imo. That or you recreate it with a new name for the new platform but then it becomes less recognizable. Everyone knows what God of War is and when they hear it they think one thing. But who would think Bank of America if they named it Bankpod and Bankdroid?
(just my thoughts so don't go getting all upset about it)

what about the "A"?
I'm still waiting for a golf game named AHole. What about Hemherrdroid? I suppose they could be offered as a package, too.
I'm torn. I lke concise app names, I like them to say what they do, and I guess it's good to know what platform. Can you do all those at once?

iOS 5 - Annoys Me.

So, Apples sues everyone under the moon, but takes every feature from Android, packages it up as some "magical" update and fanboys choke on .. edited this...
Wait, so... are all of the developers going to have to redo their apps to work on iOS 5... since it didnt have this notification bar earlier? Fragmentation?
I hate that the notification bar looks so good on iOS 5. Hate it, but you have to admit they made it better looking.
Moved this to my new Blog. If only I had this created before I made this rant.

Are details released already?
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s15274n said:
So, Apples sues everyone under the moon, but takes every feature from Android, packages it up as some "magical" update and fanboys choke on the #*&% of Steve Jobs.
So annoyed.
Sorry.. not appropriate, had to vent.
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I know dude, they're basically taking everything we have, and even stuff from cydia!
I take it your watching the live stream also?

they even copied our vissual unlock thingy

Wow I was just reading about it. They are definitely copying a lot of things android has. Notification center??? Come on that's all android. Taking pictures with the volume button? Wow. Apple needs to stop taking android features and stick to ios crap..
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I really hope Jobs gets sued. I hate him with a passion.

How can they be suing companies (samsung) for not being innovative/taking their ideas... and be on stage introducing iOS5 as the latest/greatest when these feature are 3 years old on Android?

I don't know why, but Google REALLY should sue. If Microsoft gets $5 for every HTC Android device sold, Google should get $5 for every iOS device sold with iOS 5.
EDIT: LOLOL, THEY COPIED SENSE 3.0 WITH THE LOCKSCREEN WIDGETS THING. They're so ****ed.
EDIT2: Does anyone here think that Apple will try to sue Google for using "their" notification system?

Hey, look on the bright side. They still don't have Flash.

chui101 said:
Hey, look on the bright side. They still don't have Flash.
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xD
I mean, I have no problem with them having a ton of features that we have already, they need to learn that Android is superior, but the fact that Apple acts like they JUST came up with it is what pisses me off.

Well just saw and its nice to know that Apple is reintroducing android 1.5...

"sometimes to innovate, you have to copy."
-actual Gizmodo quote

They have been doing this for years! I remember back when iPhone first came out and they acted like web and email on your phone was a new thing. I had been doing it on Windows Mobile for years.

Am i missing something? No widgets???
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hahah its nice to know jobs running out of ideas....someone suggest him to make an
iAndroid app.....for easy access to android goodies....

On the brightside guys....ppl with iCrap can now actually be a tad happier. Imagine what it would be like if you were stuck wint iCrap and didn't have notifications and ppl you knew had that on Android. It felt almost as if you didn't have a smartphone.
Give them some slack.

Personally I see nothing wrong with taking other people's good ideas. I mean most PC operating systems are all based on the same digital ancestor. If I am trying to rip into an impenetrable bag a chips and see someone else do it well I will copy them and probably show other people something "I learned from that guy/gal over there". However...
Suing people who do something similar to you (especially in parallel research) is effed up. If they didn't go around patent trolling and suing everyone else in the business I would think "cool, good for iPhone folks", which i still believe, but at the same time I see Apple doing all these things and think "Fuuuuuu-!" especially when I think about a few months from now when they start a law suit to say someone pre-copied them or that after Apple copied them they continued doing it.

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I don't know why, but Google REALLY should sue. If Microsoft gets $5 for every HTC Android device sold, Google should get $5 for every iOS device sold with iOS 5.
EDIT: LOLOL, THEY COPIED SENSE 3.0 WITH THE LOCKSCREEN WIDGETS THING. They're so ****ed.
EDIT2: Does anyone here think that Apple will try to sue Google for using "their" notification system?
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...wait Microsoft gets money from HTC?

degeneration said:
Personally I see nothing wrong with taking other people's good ideas. I mean most PC operating systems are all based on the same digital ancestor. If I am trying to rip into an impenetrable bag a chips and see someone else do it well I will copy them and probably show other people something "I learned from that guy/gal over there". However...
Suing people who do something similar to you (especially in parallel research) is effed up. If they didn't go around patent trolling and suing everyone else in the business I would think "cool, good for iPhone folks", which i still believe, but at the same time I see Apple doing all these things and think "Fuuuuuu-!" especially when I think about a few months from now when they start a law suit to say someone pre-copied them or that after Apple copied them they continued doing it.
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Apple sued Samsung for a couple of logos, and the box around the logos(app drawer), basically. LOL

I am wondering how an OS that is "open source" and thrives on expansion and adaptation can sue anybody for taking a "feature" that is on just about everything. I think the sue'ing game has gotten way out of hand. Just make make your shot and if people want it they will buy it....
Oh and on another note. As far as re-introducing Android 1.5 features, I think they are just going to perfect it like they have most of their other stuff.
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Conspiracy theory? Need everyone's help!

Basically the more Windows Phone users there are, the more apps are purchased, the more developers see Windows Phone as a worthwhile OS. It is best for all of us if Windows Phone gets huge.
Where am I going with all this?
On Hot UK Deals website, I searched for the keyword "Lumia" and I was shocked at the search results. Nearly all the entries are severely marked cold. Not too long ago they were naturally hot but all of a sudden all of them cold? Something is not right.
Two possible reasons:
1) Android or iPhone users are voting them all cold. Maybe some forum someone has suggested to make them all cold.
2) Could it be Google or Apple at play? Employing people to down vote anything related to Windows Phone?
I ask all Windows Phone users to please take a moment to visit the site and search for Lumia or Windows Phone and vote hot any of the results. We NEED a huge user base for developers and others to take the OS seriously.
Please!

To be honest, I don't see this as a surprise, nor as a conspiracy theory... Face it, from WP7 to WP8 the biggest changes in OS were the live tile size and multitasking.
Most of the issues that WP7 had, WP8 still has and it seems that MS doesn't even try solving them. And what about apps?
If you take a look at Skype on other mobile OS (iOS or Android), you'll see that it's a premium experience over Skype on Windows Phone,
but whose to blame for that?
Who knows what can we excpect when WP9 comes out... Maybe they will make tiles circle shaped, I bet they think that is what every user craves for!
P.S. No troll, no flame. Just plain simple facts.

with GDR3 comming out soon for better hardware and better screen resolutions, maybe everyone is waiting for the better phones. Windows Phones is slowly, but surely gaining traction. For every day use, you have to admit that Windows Phone is pretty solid.

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For every day use, you have to admit that Windows Phone is pretty solid.
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I certainly agree with this, but is that enough to get Windows Phone rolling? For everyday user, who doesn't expect nothing advanced,
WP is definetly one of the best solutions on the market but MS has to do a better job to get to Apple and Android users.
What they're doing at this moment leads them nowhere and WP won't be getting anywhere near the top of the market ladder.
And yes, prices of WP handsets are going down and there's a little demand for them. If you don't trust me, try selling your Windows Phone...

Conspirancy? Really??
Maan, there's a reason why most WP fanboys are among the most delusional and plain out retarded.
You see a change in a random electronics website and the first thing you think about is a conspirancy? Really? You think Google would waste time on such a little website with little traffic just to cement his already stable position?
Apple??? Are you serious?? Apple is desperately trying to remain second in the mobile os world, and you think it has time to invest in such an operation?
Windows Phone is not attracting developers because of it's own limitations AND the user base.
If there's anyone to blame it's just Microsoft.

Thanks for your post toza but with all due respect what has your answer got to do with the op?
The op is about phones being voted down based on cost/value/deal and nothing to do with the OS or live tiles or apps. Someone somewhere is voting them cold deliberately in order to avoid new customers purchasing them.
Do you see what I mean?

tboy2000 said:
The op is about phones being voted down based on cost/value/deal and nothing to do with the OS or live tiles or apps.
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Yes yes, I'm sorry if it sounded off topic. Please let me explain very briefly.
My personal opinion is that OS, app usability, level of customization etc., directly affect the value of product...
Therefore if the product value is low, customer is not satisfied with it and rates it bad.
Those are kinda the basics of marketing. It's the whole package that makes the product
I mean, no hard feelings, didn't mean to sound off topic

Taurenking said:
Conspirancy? Really??
Maan, there's a reason why most WP fanboys are among the most delusional and plain out retarded.
You see a change in a random electronics website and the first thing you think about is a conspirancy? Really? You think Google would waste time on such a little website with little traffic just to cement his already stable position?
Apple??? Are you serious?? Apple is desperately trying to remain second in the mobile os world, and you think it has time to invest in such an operation?
Windows Phone is not attracting developers because of it's own limitations AND the user base.
If there's anyone to blame it's just Microsoft.
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The almighty has spoken.
Actually Samsung were guilty of something similar so it can happen. There is no other reason for these good deals to not just be voted cold, but freezing. I am a regular user on that website so i know the patterns the deals get. This is abnormal. Something is up.
Heaven forbid to ask you to vote hot is too much to ask.
The problem with developers is why should they develop for an OS that has less "customers" than Apple or Android? I doubt it is the phone's limitations. Money is where its at. This is my point. Let's make these deals more enticing to a newbie by fixing this petty down voting.

pissed abbout google play store and samsung appstore and espetially amazon appstore

hy,
im not sure if im doing something wrong but the google appstore is very incoherent, i dont even want to mention the other stores.
i was trying for example, to find resident evil 4 on the samsung store but found streetfighter 4 instead witch i cannot find on the google store nor anywhere.
streetfighter 4 was, by all sources on google first only exclusive for LG devices and then was expanded to some devices in japan, so i shouldnt even see it.
but alright thats the samsung store i dont expect much of that anyway .. but the google store is the same crap basically.
i go on my samsung s4 in the appstore app i press the menu button and select my apps and i got two tabs one says installed the other all.
on the installed tab i should see all apps installed on my device regardless if i got them from the samsung store or any other source i could have also downloaded an apk and installed it manually.
the i open my browser and go to the google app store .. what do i got there? i have on the left a link to my apps now i am supposed to get all my apps listed there ... and also one has that little gear icon witch is there for settings on it there is an option saying MY ORDERS that lists everything i ever purchased from the google appstore.
now the issue is that in the list of my apps on the browser i dont have the same items as on the list that the mobile app store gives me i am missing believe it or not even GOOGLE VOICE SEARCH witch appears on my mobile.
now the most retarded thing about this hole thing is that i got on my device in the all tap listed 2 samsung apps witch are the SAMSUNG HUB and PHOTO EDITOR when i go into details on both i get a message saying this app is not compatible with your device.
i cannot find neither of these apps on the google app store when i use the search embeded in the store app.
if this is really the android system then i take a crap on it. IS IT SO HARD TO MAKE THING COHERENT... I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYTHING SIMPLER IN THE HOLE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT OF AN ANDROID SYSTEM. i dont want to get thrown to by all this trash produced by a bunch of different standards different appstores but as you can see also within each store itselt.
I SO REGREAD BUYING THE S4 ILL NEVER CHANGE FROM APPLE AGAIN.
is it really so that in the process of developing a system like android google or samsung or whoever just says ok ... we developed all the core stuff we dont care about the UI just get the thing ready for sale

I've never had problems with it. Try re-installing it.
Edit: Judging by your lack of spelling and such, I'm assuming you're from a different country. That also affects what's available in the Play Store.
Complain about Samsung's App Store to Samsung and complain about Amazon's App Store to Amazon.
Writing an essay *****ing about everything isn't going to fix everything.

electro` said:
I've never had problems with it. Try re-installing it.
Edit: Judging by your lack of spelling and such, I'm assuming you're from a different country. That also affects what's available in the Play Store.
Complain about Samsung's App Store to Samsung and complain about Amazon's App Store to Amazon.
Writing an essay *****ing about everything isn't going to fix everything.
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im not *****ing you are just blind or occupied with your playstation or something these are real issues and *****ing is the only thing one has left when GOOGLE AND SAMSUNG ... giant companies, are to stupid to make things as they should but i rather believe that they dont mind about costumers.
if you say that you have no issues, than maybe you havent checked all the stuff i mentioned above i allready took into account the fact that not all aps are available in all countries on the google appstore not sure if its the same on samsungs store.
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
another thing is that i cannot find google magazines but i can find google books witch is just ridiculous... i want to throw out.
google is in everything they make incoherent and lackish.
i have no idea what is so hard about it but apple seems to be the only electronics company out there that can be trusted trully.

Unfortunately that's not how Google Play works. It's only going to show you what you installed via Google Play because those are they only ones it can determine you legally own. Same goes for the Amazon App store.
Google Play Web has always had issues displaying my apps. I think that's more of a limitation of the Web Developer and/or what they're using.
The issue you're having with the apps not being compatible with your device isn't Google Play's fault but the app developer's fault as they flag what the app is and isn't compatible with.
Funny how you mention Apple does it better but you have to remember there's only one maker of the iPhone so there's no worries about compatibility while there are many makers of Android Phones so compatibility's going to be an issue.

Kyuta Syuko said:
Unfortunately that's not how Google Play works. It's only going to show you what you installed via Google Play because those are they only ones it can determine you legally own. Same goes for the Amazon App store.
Google Play Web has always had issues displaying my apps. I think that's more of a limitation of the Web Developer and/or what they're using.
The issue you're having with the apps not being compatible with your device isn't Google Play's fault but the app developer's fault as they flag what the app is and isn't compatible with.
Funny how you mention Apple does it better but you have to remember there's only one maker of the iPhone so there's no worries about compatibility while there are many makers of Android Phones so compatibility's going to be an issue.
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Thats exactly right my friend these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow like if thats a problem they cant handle ... just that we are stupid and buy their crap. I made that mistake the last time I cant believe I got myself convinced that android could be even close to apple even the sound quality is superb on iphone earpieses CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS

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im not *****ing you are just blind or occupied with your playstation or something these are real issues and *****ing is the only thing one has left when GOOGLE AND SAMSUNG ... giant companies, are to stupid to make things as they should but i rather believe that they dont mind about costumers.
if you say that you have no issues, than maybe you havent checked all the stuff i mentioned above i allready took into account the fact that not all aps are available in all countries on the google appstore not sure if its the same on samsungs store.
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
another thing is that i cannot find google magazines but i can find google books witch is just ridiculous... i want to throw out.
google is in everything they make incoherent and lackish.
i have no idea what is so hard about it but apple seems to be the only electronics company out there that can be trusted trully.
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Why are you taking this as an attack? For your information, I don't even own a gaming console. Obviously you're not checking your spelling well enough. Anyway, All those app stores don't tie into each other because they don't share records. I really don't see what the point of this thread was to be honest.
If you're really that dissatisfied quit complaining and go to an iPhone and deal with the issues they have.

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i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
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well yeah, if you knew which were misspelled you probably would've fixed 'em when initially typing.
Here's some help though:
adrovic.ad said:
hy,
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should be "Hi" with an I.
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streetfighter 4 instead witch i cannot
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Technically that's spelled correctly, but the word you want is "which" not witch.
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witch appears on my mobile.
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Again... which.
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the most retarded thing about this hole thing
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Again, correct, yet wrong. "whole" not "hole".
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on the google app store when i use the search embeded in the store app.
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Embedded.
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HOLE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT
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WHOLE.
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you can see also within each store itselt.
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itself. With an F.
adrovic.ad said:
I SO REGREAD BUYING THE S4
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REGRET
All those app stores don't tie into each other because they don't share records.
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This is the reason I think he's mad. Like only having repos to discover there are other things out there. Wonder how he'd flip on windows lol
adrovic.ad said:
these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow
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Android is about Open Source. Unlike macs proprietary world, android wants you to have the freedom of choice. Unfortunately this means everyone wants to be a choice. There's no reason to try out a million markets. You can usually find what you need in 1. If not, use a search engine, not other markets. Just easier that way.
adrovic.ad said:
CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
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like spell "sure" and "easiest"?
Lol, sorry, couldn't help myself.
The reason (again) why you might get better sound quality on apple products is because that's 1 company. Android has a ton of different people all trying to be better than the last guy. So they change the way streams sent or how hardware renders or they make a cheap product to make a quick buck. That's a free world, where people are allowed to be cheated, but also where they are allowed to go elsewhere.
Remember, if you own apple...
Apple owns YOU!
adrovic.ad said:
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
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This is about windows now?
The best thing to do if you're having trouble is ask. No need to rant or attack companies that aren't reading this.
Just say "hey guys, having trouble finding this for my device which is s4 for this provider. Btw I'm in <country name>, thanks"
This'll help you find what you need.
Also, if you're confused about why markets don't seem synced, ask "how come phone play store shows x apps and web store on pc shows y?"
We're glad to help, but you gotta make the problem clear and not sound like we're telemarketers who called you at dinnertime

adrovic.ad said:
Thats exactly right my friend these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow like if thats a problem they cant handle ... just that we are stupid and buy their crap. I made that mistake the last time I cant believe I got myself convinced that android could be even close to apple even the sound quality is superb on iphone earpieses CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
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It's not that they don't it's that they can't. They released Android as an open source project for anyone to use as they see fit. Besides if they attempted to dictate to companies how they had to build their phones and that they all had to be clones of all the others then no one would make them. It is because they're allowed to make their phones they way they want that Android based phones hold more market share than the iPhone.

Murasaki no Kaze said:
well yeah, if you knew which were misspelled you probably would've fixed 'em when initially typing.
Here's some help though:
should be "Hi" with an I.
Technically that's spelled correctly, but the word you want is "which" not witch.
Again... which.
Again, correct, yet wrong. "whole" not "hole".
Embedded.
WHOLE.
itself. With an F.
REGRET
This is the reason I think he's mad. Like only having repos to discover there are other things out there. Wonder how he'd flip on windows lol
Android is about Open Source. Unlike macs proprietary world, android wants you to have the freedom of choice. Unfortunately this means everyone wants to be a choice. There's no reason to try out a million markets. You can usually find what you need in 1. If not, use a search engine, not other markets. Just easier that way.
like spell "sure" and "easiest"?
Lol, sorry, couldn't help myself.
The reason (again) why you might get better sound quality on apple products is because that's 1 company. Android has a ton of different people all trying to be better than the last guy. So they change the way streams sent or how hardware renders or they make a cheap product to make a quick buck. That's a free world, where people are allowed to be cheated, but also where they are allowed to go elsewhere.
Remember, if you own apple...
Apple owns YOU!
This is about windows now?
The best thing to do if you're having trouble is ask. No need to rant or attack companies that aren't reading this.
Just say "hey guys, having trouble finding this for my device which is s4 for this provider. Btw I'm in <country name>, thanks"
This'll help you find what you need.
Also, if you're confused about why markets don't seem synced, ask "how come phone play store shows x apps and web store on pc shows y?"
We're glad to help, but you gotta make the problem clear and not sound like we're telemarketers who called you at dinnertime
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youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
the next time i draw pictures for you so everything is clear for you, youve got to read between the lines my friend to get to the real problem.
i believe thats why you bought an android in the first please because youre so surfacing all the time and dont get to the point.
what is that fraze supposed to mean i really wounder APPLE OWNS YOU, maybe they restrict me somehow? i dont know but i know that google restricts me with their crap inconsistent system and if they cant even make their own software nice than its not a problem with cross platforming.
if they compete with each other then they should make thinks better not worse I MEAN WHERE DID YOU PEOPLE LIVE... ON THE MOON?
AGAIN THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL ... AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IS APPLE
if you think youre free because you can edit the system files on your phone then are you blind as a rat .. thats exactly why you are more constrained.
you have the choice to design stuff for example the UI. like anyone is capable to design thinks as they like, at the end they design crap for sure.
look on the other hand at ios 7 BEAUTIFUL i dont want to change a thing on that one ITS SECURE ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS MOST IMPORTANT ITS COHERENT.
APPLE RULES.
THEY PUT A QUALLCOM PROCESSOR IN THE S4 BUT AS THE DID WITH THE OTHER SOFTWARE THEY HAVE I BET THE CORE SOFTWARE ON THE ANDROID IS JUST AS FULL OF UNBELIEVABLE BULL**** MISTAKES AS EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I BET THESE EAT BATTERY LIFE AS WELL.
for example i wouldn't be surprised with this idiots considering their WORK so far, that android does not communicate with all wifi routes the same way it maybe BRAND DEPENDENT PFFFF.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there

adrovic.ad said:
youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
the next time i draw pictures for you so everything is clear for you, youve got to read between the lines my friend to get to the real problem.
i believe thats why you bought an android in the first please because youre so surfacing all the time and dont get to the point.
what is that fraze supposed to mean i really wounder APPLE OWNS YOU, maybe they restrict me somehow? i dont know but i know that google restricts me with their crap inconsistent system and if they cant even make their own software nice than its not a problem with cross platforming.
if they compete with each other then they should make thinks better not worse I MEAN WHERE DID YOU PEOPLE LIVE... ON THE MOON?
AGAIN THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL ... AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IS APPLE
if you think youre free because you can edit the system files on your phone then are you blind as a rat .. thats exactly why you are more constrained.
you have the choice to design stuff for example the UI. like anyone is capable to design thinks as they like, at the end they design crap for sure.
look on the other hand at ios 7 BEAUTIFUL i dont want to change a thing on that one ITS SECURE ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS MOST IMPORTANT ITS COHERENT.
APPLE RULES.
THEY PUT A QUALLCOM PROCESSOR IN THE S4 BUT AS THE DID WITH THE OTHER SOFTWARE THEY HAVE I BET THE CORE SOFTWARE ON THE ANDROID IS JUST AS FULL OF UNBELIEVABLE BULL**** MISTAKES AS EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I BET THESE EAT BATTERY LIFE AS WELL.
for example i wouldn't be surprised with this idiots considering their WORK so far, that android does not communicate with all wifi routes the same way it maybe BRAND DEPENDENT PFFFF.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
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So you don't want help? Just to complain and promote apple?
Few things:
1. Yes, I am weird, I am OCD, I see things that as you said "no one cares about". I understand how little things can be important. Like how people will value your opinion based on the coherency of your delivery. If me no comprende, then me no nintendo.
2. My understanding of how important the little things are is what prompted me to purchase an android. You think you can't edit system files in apple products? Of course you can. It's not about being able to change the look of my phone. It's about being able to choose to do as I see fit, whether that's change the look, functionality or whatever else occurs to me.
3. By the phrase "apple owns you" what I mean to say is that in purchasing an apple product, you must purchase other apple products which will only be compatible with other apple products. In purchasing their equipment you've lost the freedom of choice. It's all apple. Headphones? Apple. Laptop? Apple. Mp3 player? Apple. Repair shop? Apple. Music player? Apple. Software? Apple.
Android can be used with whatever you prefer. Samsung, sony, htc, etc. The list goes on. This is why I prefer open source. It's about not being stuck in a loop and not being a walking advertisement for products that have been pushed on me rather then those I've selected because I like.
4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That means that different people find different things beautiful. Look at some of the theme forums. Some are incredible, others are meh. To me. Not to the people that are downloading them and loving it.
This is why you think android is worse? Because it doesn't force itself on you? Have you tried windows? They're also commercial and available to everyone. You want something better, check out aosp. That's Android Open Source Project. There you will find much innovation and improvement. It's not android fighting against itself. It's companies trying to make android their own thing for their own reasons. Customer loyalty to what's familiar, a similar experience with their own brand name products.
You ask if we live on the moon for not getting away from that...
Have you even looked at this forum?
Most of what you will find here is about getting away from what all these companies are pushing on their customers. Why do you think people root? Replace roms? Kernels? All these things so we can get the experience that WE want from our devices. Not what the companies have deemed we should have.
You praise apple as the only serious company out there? Either you are gravely misinformed, blissfully ignorant or you're simply trolling.
Have you seen some of the battery performances on this forum? They're ridiculously awesome!
It's not android adding the bloatware, it's the devices manufacturers. Samsung adds Its app and launcher and whatever it wants to its devices, as does every other company out there. They made it, they can sell it how they want.
Apple's done an incredible job, it's come a long way, but it monopolizes itself. That is the only thing I don't like about apple, and is reason enough for me to never purchase their products.
I wouldn't allow such ideology in any other aspect of my life, why would I in this?
If apple makes you happy, great, grab yourself a variant of iphone and live the happy comfortable life of the conformist. Like a consumer slave, nothing to worry about when the masters choose for you

Murasaki no Kaze said:
So you don't want help? Just to complain and promote apple?
Few things:
1. Yes, I am weird, I am OCD, I see things that as you said "no one cares about". I understand how little things can be important. Like how people will value your opinion based on the coherency of your delivery. If me no comprende, then me no nintendo.
2. My understanding of how important the little things are is what prompted me to purchase an android. You think you can't edit system files in apple products? Of course you can. It's not about being able to change the look of my phone. It's about being able to choose to do as I see fit, whether that's change the look, functionality or whatever else occurs to me.
3. By the phrase "apple owns you" what I mean to say is that in purchasing an apple product, you must purchase other apple products which will only be compatible with other apple products. In purchasing their equipment you've lost the freedom of choice. It's all apple. Headphones? Apple. Laptop? Apple. Mp3 player? Apple. Repair shop? Apple. Music player? Apple. Software? Apple.
Android can be used with whatever you prefer. Samsung, sony, htc, etc. The list goes on. This is why I prefer open source. It's about not being stuck in a loop and not being a walking advertisement for products that have been pushed on me rather then those I've selected because I like.
4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That means that different people find different things beautiful. Look at some of the theme forums. Some are incredible, others are meh. To me. Not to the people that are downloading them and loving it.
This is why you think android is worse? Because it doesn't force itself on you? Have you tried windows? They're also commercial and available to everyone. You want something better, check out aosp. That's Android Open Source Project. There you will find much innovation and improvement. It's not android fighting against itself. It's companies trying to make android their own thing for their own reasons. Customer loyalty to what's familiar, a similar experience with their own brand name products.
You ask if we live on the moon for not getting away from that...
Have you even looked at this forum?
Most of what you will find here is about getting away from what all these companies are pushing on their customers. Why do you think people root? Replace roms? Kernels? All these things so we can get the experience that WE want from our devices. Not what the companies have deemed we should have.
You praise apple as the only serious company out there? Either you are gravely misinformed, blissfully ignorant or you're simply trolling.
Have you seen some of the battery performances on this forum? They're ridiculously awesome!
It's not android adding the bloatware, it's the devices manufacturers. Samsung adds Its app and launcher and whatever it wants to its devices, as does every other company out there. They made it, they can sell it how they want.
Apple's done an incredible job, it's come a long way, but it monopolizes itself. That is the only thing I don't like about apple, and is reason enough for me to never purchase their products.
I wouldn't allow such ideology in any other aspect of my life, why would I in this?
If apple makes you happy, great, grab yourself a variant of iphone and live the happy comfortable life of the conformist. Like a consumer slave, nothing to worry about when the masters choose for you
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you got some good points there but.. apple ipad i the best apple earpods are the best apple laptops are the best so why would i want to choose something else.
i gurantee you that aple knows that the policy about their products is takeing them a bit portion of the market BUT they dont see any other way to guarantee you quality.
and the reason people change so much firmware is .. bad android on ios i wouldnt even want to change anything nor do i care to do things other than intended.
best way to save yourself from bad products is not to even get them and not buy them and then try to change them...

adrovic.ad said:
apple ipad i the best
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I disagree.
adrovic.ad said:
apple earpods are the best
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I disagree.
adrovic.ad said:
apple laptops are the best
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adrovic.ad said:
so why would i want to choose something else.
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That's really the question here, I feel; why did you get something besides an apple product in the first place if you are so sold on the apple systems? Clearly there was something about apple you didn't like enough that you ended up getting an android phone instead. You can't argue that apple is the only good choice since after all - you yourself admitted it wasn't by choosing something else in this instance.
adrovic.ad said:
best way to save yourself from bad products is not to even get them
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That's absolute correct. Feel free to only buy great products in the future, even though you for some strange reason decided to buy something you considered "not great" in this case, and then came to a forum dedicated to changing it to complain about your mistake.
We're very sorry you don't appreciate the phone you bought. The simple solution is to sell it to someone who does and get an iphone instead. iPhones are great products, no doubt, and apparently they are perfect for what you need!
Good luck!

adrovic.ad said:
youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
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first u challenged people to find yr spelling mistakes...then u called people a weirdo when corrected. guess I am a weirdo too.
then u called people idiots...wonder who is the idiot here...sigh
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i gurantee you that aple knows...
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now u even stand guarantee for aple

This guy's either a complete moron or a troll and this thread should be locked either way. He obviously isn't here looking for help but to just bash on Android with an "I'm holier then thou" kind of attitude. If you love Apple so much how bout you just stfu and go find someone with an iPhone 5 that wants a S4 and trade with them if you can't exchange it where you bought it for one.

Posted on the GS4 forum too...and got flamed. Just a troll, IMHO!!
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I like how the name ends in ".ad" almost as if he's flaunting his sheephood

DoctorProctor said:
Posted on the GS4 forum too...and got flamed. Just a troll, IMHO!!
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Actually, I don't think the OP is a troll - he is a frustrated user venting in the wrong place to the wrong people. The OP is mad because he is used to the "it just works" feeling that Apple provides. I can relate to his feelings.
I carried an iPhone for awhile. A 4S. And although I prefer my Android by far, there are a few things that Apple simply does better than anyone. One of them is quality control. As an example, "drive mode" on my current i537. On my S2 I used this all the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. No rhyme or reason except buggy Samsung software. When I got my i537, I figured they *must* have fixed drive mode by now... I was wrong. Two years and two versions later it *still* only works only when it feels like it. Apple *usually* would never ship such shoddy software (yes, I know about the maps fiasco, but that is an exception, not the rule with them). There are many other stupid little Samsung bugs on our phone. It is frustrating to have a device that would be just about perfect if they spent a little more time on quality control. I mean, I found some of these bugs less than an hour after booting up my phone for the first time. Makes me wonder how much testing Samsung actually did with this phone before they started shipping...

That's what I thought at first, but instead of explaining his situation clearly (what he's looking for, what he's seeing) and actually asking for help he increases the animosity in his posts and adopts an "apple rulez you droolz!!!" attitude. That's when I decided he was a troll.
If he'd be clearer than "this sucks! Me no understand! I hate you bye!" Maybe he'd get a little more help. He's obviously never seen beyond what's in front of his nose and instead of trying to understand, he becomes angry. I can understand frustration, but there's no need to attack members, companies or anyone for that matter. If you don't understand something, you research, analyze, try a different angle and see what you learn. Not cry about it to whoever happens to stroll by.

IMissPalmOS said:
Actually, I don't think the OP is a troll - he is a frustrated user venting in the wrong place to the wrong people. The OP is mad because he is used to the "it just works" feeling that Apple provides. I can relate to his feelings.
I carried an iPhone for awhile. A 4S. And although I prefer my Android by far, there are a few things that Apple simply does better than anyone. One of them is quality control. As an example, "drive mode" on my current i537. On my S2 I used this all the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. No rhyme or reason except buggy Samsung software. When I got my i537, I figured they *must* have fixed drive mode by now... I was wrong. Two years and two versions later it *still* only works only when it feels like it. Apple *usually* would never ship such shoddy software (yes, I know about the maps fiasco, but that is an exception, not the rule with them). There are many other stupid little Samsung bugs on our phone. It is frustrating to have a device that would be just about perfect if they spent a little more time on quality control. I mean, I found some of these bugs less than an hour after booting up my phone for the first time. Makes me wonder how much testing Samsung actually did with this phone before they started shipping...
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exactly right friend but just think that if you can see already so many flaws on the surface just by booting up just think how many flaws there must be on the core programs, making youre device maybe vulnerable for attacks most of them noone probably notices because all google cares about is making things stable not necessarily right.
i just cant believe that even today only one company can be taken for serious and thats apple, i dont think that there has ever been a situation on any market in the world ever in history of mankind ... in economy that nobody cares to deliver a quality product besides one company but that everybody makes profit.
android is just a big prank that keeps itself on the surface by making false promises talking about functionality where there is basicly not so much functionality as they promise.
but what goes completely out of bounds and i cant understand at all is that this is absolutely no problem to fix.
software economy has obviously taken its own dynamic, going on a thin rope of false statements and cheap production i guess.
i have been in egypt this year for holiday and i would never go there again, but still i meet there people that came there for the 5th time i just couldn't believe my mind anymore ... unbelievable.
same counts for android some people just see the obvious and some just like crappy stuff maybe they like to suffer.. makes them feel better.

Like I said, I know how you feel. I'm a perfectionist myself and don't understand either why Samsung doesn't go just a bit further with their testing to work out some of the obvious bugs and flaws in their software. But what you or I might want is unfortunately irrelevant. Samsung hasn't asked for my opinion thus far, and I'd doubt they will anytime soon. So... We get to chose between Apple's relentless pursuit of perfection inside their strictly controlled "walled garden", or the "Wild West" of the Samsung/Android world. I'll take the later, bugs and all. If you chose to do the same, there are people here who will go far out of their way to help you with any issues that come up and only ask for coherency and politeness in return. Give it a try...