[Q] Out of space, S2E doesn't work - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I ran out of space on my N1 (CM7), used Froyo A2SD, got annoyed and switched to S2E. It didn't free up any space (still around 25MB free on /data), but I was able to continue adding apps so I didn't mind. Recently, I just went down below 20MB free space and Android is complaining.
I suspect that when I installed S2E it didn't delete the apps from /data/app. It just copied them to the SD card and mounted it SD card on /data/app.
Am I right? Can I free up that space without removing S2E or factory resetting my phone?

A2sd only move party of the apps, data will still remain inside the phone. User dark tremor a2sd, it move everything to the ext section of the sd card, you can also move dalvik cache which free up a huge amount of space

S2E also moves dalvik.
Have you used out to move dalvik to SD? Do you have an ext partition on your SD (assuming it needs one)

S2E definitely needs EXT partition on your SD card. If you never added it - S2E didn't have any effect.

I could move dalvik-cache, but I was under the impression that dalvik gets more write hits than /data/app and my Class-4 SD card will be more of a problem.
I used to use DarkTremor until it got buggy with certain GB ROMs. So I got rid of it and just used the builtin A2SD. Then I got S2E.
I have a 512MB EXT partition.
S2E did seem to work: the apps are on the SD card; I was able to install more apps; if I try using the builtin A2SD, it doesn't affect free space on /data.
It just never reduced the space used in /data.

In that case, you might use Terminal Emulator or ADB shell to check if the apps are indeed duplicated and exist both on the phone and on EXT. Use "ls -l" to see if the apps you see in /data/app/ are real apps or symlinks.
And Dalvik2SD is perfectly fine with my Class 2 SD card.

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[Q] Can I verify that apps are being installed on the sd card?

I've formatted my sd card with Rom manager, 512MB on the ext partition, and 32MB on the swap.
Then I installed LiquidSense 2.2.1, which has A2SD built-in...so far as I can tell.
So I've installed a bunch of apps I had before (I was running LiquidSense 2.1 and was running out of room...down to ~20MB internal). And I have over 100MB free, but when I install a few apps, my internal memory still drops a little. I started with ~124MB free. Does a small part of the app still take up space on internal?
So is there a way to check where the apps are actually residing? Also, I pushed a few apps...Mail.apk and the htc bookmark widget...to /system/apps, so are they on internal or on sd? Can I move them to sd if they are internal?
Thanks for the help. I hope this isn't a repeat question, I searched for a way to verify app installation location and didn't come up with anything.
Apps will still take up some amount of space in the internal. Like the kindle app goes from 6 megs to about 4.
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With Apps2SD, the application is moved from the /data/app directory to the /sd-ext partition, but the userdata is still stored internally in the /data/data directory.
Edit: Also the dalvik cache is still stored internally.
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Thanks for the responses. That makes sense that some data is stored internally. I don't suppose there's a way to browse the ext partition of the sdcard? Using Astro, I don't see a way to see a different partition, but maybe I'm just missing it. Also, the internal /data folder is empty. That didn't seem right.

Apps2SD using both Internal and External memory

So I recently upgraded from Kang-o-rama beta to 1.2 Final SP2. While doing so I decided to wipe my data to get a clean start. Well before the wipe I had DT Apps2SD running perfectly. I had much of my 512mb ext partition filled with apps and only a very small fraction of my internal storage was used. I also still had Dalvik cache and cache on internal memory.
Now I have a new updated ROM with a clean slate (data and dalvik cache wiped). I got Apps2SD all set up and it seems as though it's working however it is still using quite a bit of internal memory. Now, I understand that app data and the symbolic links will still be on internal storage but the issue is that the space taken up on the ext partition and internal memory is just about the same ~70mb. I know the app data will not take up that much space. As before I updated and wiped my phone, the internal memory had only a fraction of it used when compared to the ext partition.
Any ideas as to what may be going on?
did you flash a2sd again? I'm not 100% sure but I think you have to flash that as well after the rom thanks to a user on here I got it somewhere in the dt thread, they shared the script where you don't have to flash it anymore after flashing a new rom so if you don't have that I think the problem may be that you might have to flash it again. Also check if your apps are going to your sd card and not your internal storage
If I am not mistaken, Kang-o-Rama is set up to run and configure apps2sd on first boot with an installer flag which is exactly what I did. Besides that I have already checked that Apps2sd is running through terminal commands as well run the reinstall command.
So apps are indeed being installed on the ext partition. My issue is that something is taking up a bunch of space in my internal storage, which naturally I thought was the apps.
Do I just have a really large Dalvik cache or something along those lines that could take up so much memory?
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how many apps do you have installed? I can't say I'm 100% sure but it's possible that it's your dalvik. my damn dalvik cache is that big, i have no internal memory left about 20 mb ish i have so many apps installed so i just had to move dalvik over to sd as well. I have maybe a bit more than a hundred apps and some are big
edit: my ext partition is 512mb if it helps half of it is full with my apps
i think data apps is still being stored in the internal storage (like darktremor a2sd) unless its also being moved by default on kang-o-rama which i doubt but you can also move it to sd card though with minimum of class4 sd card requirement so you wont have speed issues. look it up you can do it through terminal emulator
My guess is that before you had also run 'a2sd cachesd' at some point. This moves all your dalvik cache over to the ext partition and just leaves the app data on internal memory.
Running this will clear up a substantial amount of internal space.

[Q] Ext3.ko and Ext4.ko is for App2sd?

I'm currently using GingerCruzt 7.4
I saw Ext3.ko and Ext4.ko under /system/lib/modules/ i was wondering:
If i partition my 16GB SDcard to FAT32 and Ext3/4, would my internal memory increased like App2sd on Eclair does?
Or it's just gonna be wasted space?
Then i just repartitioned my sdcard(my sdcard was parttioned 12GB(data),1GB(Ext2),500mb(swap)) to 1GB(ext3) and the rest is FAT32 and nothing's happened, my internal memory remained 255 mb, is there any wrong steps i took?
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Moving apps to SD (whatever partition) frees up internal memory space as apps are installed there by default. By freeing up internal storage, your phone gets somehow faster
does it means it's doesn't show up as internal memory, but does the same thing as Eclair App2sd?
You can see the app in 'app managemet' on SD tab. The app will work the same except for widgets won't show up.
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With GC or most of custom roms, you have only to create an ext2/3/4, then system recognizes your ext partition and installs your new apps directly there.
Then you just have to normally install apps on phone, and they'll go "silently" in the ext partition of the sd .
You can check if it works by going in the /sd-ext by a file explorer and see if there are folders inside (they should be 4). If everything is correct, you should find your apps installed in /sd-ext/app.
Please note that of course your total internal memory space won't grow up.
Apps will be simply installed in the sd-ext, leaving your internal space free
i dont know if is a bug or what , but my app2sd work's without ext partition in my sd card, my apps go to .android_secure folder in my sd card, is that normal ?

Low Internal Memory on CM7

Everything is on SD Card and still I have only 30mb free space...how can I clean up phone memory?
Install Root Explorer and delete the non-used apps
Hi install darktremor app2sd script! quick instuduction how to: first of all you have to partition your sd card via cwr then download darktremor app2sd script, put on sd and install zip from sd! its important to mount system and data first before install darktremor! then reboot if its done your phone will reboot again to put all apps on 2nd partion of sd card! then download app2sd gui from the market with this app you can move dalvic cache to sd also! and if both done tada emty interial memory ;-) ok one thing dont do or move anything in settings/apps on the phone after you install darktremor cause it ruins the script and it will not work anymore! do settings when only with app2sd gui!
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M1hai said:
Everything is on SD Card and still I have only 30mb free space...how can I clean up phone memory?
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You can try also this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391214
Even though everything is being installed on the sd card the root or core files of the app gets installed on the phone memory not much but a bit
M1hai said:
Everything is on SD Card and still I have only 30mb free space...how can I clean up phone memory?
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Moving apps to sd-card doesn't move complete app (it only move movable part of the app to sdcard and leave other to internal memory)....
So, partitioning is recommended. Partition your sdcard and install a2sd scripts to move app to sd-ext. For more info regarding this search at http://yagyagaire.blogspot.com
Best solution for me: with Titanium Backup Pro i used integrate sys Dalvik into ROM now i have free internal memory
I think s2e works just fine for our CM7, except the "Download Cache" option... Just don't tick it.

[Q] ext4 and a2sd

I am using gingerzaraki rom and had created 512 mb ext4 partition using clock work but when i view internal memory it shows 212 mb. also i had set in cynongenmode settings to use a2sd and store applications in external memory but they are not stored in external memory and i have to use application manager and shift applications to sd card manually. please help out configure this
Using ext partition doesn't affect internal memory. So in settings there will be always 212mb (miniCm7 ROMs for sure, other - don't know).
than what is the use of ext partition???
ext partition cant improve your internal memory but if you put your movable apps in ext partition you will get free space in your internal memory for new apps to install!
thks for the info but how to move movable apps to ext???
I meant move apse to ext
too_cool_4_all said:
I meant move apse to ext
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If you have created the partition on your SDcard..then when you install app,it will automatically moved to your SDcard..and your Internal memory will not be reduced..
I have created the partition but still when I install applications internal memory keeps decreasing
You can use Link2sd, which is more simple...
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I have created the partition but still when I install applications internal memory keeps decreasing
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Ooo..i see..first go to settings..then go to cyanogenmod settings..go to applications and tick allow application moves(i'm not sure its name but its the first one)..and select external from the second menu(under the allow application moves)..i hope you can understand me..
I have done this too than also internal memory keeps decreasing......
OK, the sd-ext is the partition where your .apk app are moved into sd-ext the partition...
Depends on the custom rom ext mounter script or APP2SD app, it can move your app & dalvik-cahe together into the sd-ext partition or not.
Now, Sd-ext just store .apk(app) And/or Dalvik-cache. So, the data(data & databases) that created by some app (games, media player, and for forth...) will sit in your phone /data/data. so your phone /data partition spaces will decreased out. If your custom rom ext mounter script does not assign to move dalvik-cache together, your phone /data partition will max out very quickly.
Because every app installed will create a .dex file in dalvik-cache folder. except for some app (Theme, etc....)
And TIPS. USE PARITION WIZARD FOR GOD SAKE (Sorry for the caps)
Hope this will get into your head
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