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Hello fellow Xda'ers! I have recently Sold my htc hd2 and I have decided to buy an Galaxy S I9000!!
Do you think this is a smart trade since i LOVE ANDROID, is there another device you could recommend?
Even if so,
Does anyone here know how to, or IF I can use Standard STock Android 2.1 OR 2.2
doesnt matter, I just want it to be Android stock...
Thanks and Please
Sincerely yours Aldin!
yes there are beta version of froyo already JF3
Currently can't use stock (but there is no reason why someone couldn't port get a fully stock rom working). A lot of us like this phone, some people don't. Some people prefer the Desire.
Current main problems people are having.
1) GPS is sketchy, but it does appear Samsung is fixing it. It is a good chipset (and the solution may be that they release a new backplate with a better antenna, because there is a jack for an external antenna). Or, it may be improved drivers. As of JM5, I have quickly tested mine and it is great, but haven't tested it properly yet.
2) "Lag". Some people are whinging that applications take too long to load, and some tasks lag. We KNOW the processor is awesome though, and we KNOW that the NAND chip is fast, so it's probably a configuration/software issue. Perhaps they simply need better caching in place. Also be aware, many people here are blowing the lag WAYYY out of proportion. Some people here will tell you their applications are lagging 10 secs, and that the lag killed their cat.
In JM5 and JG5, I tested it, and I could only get 3 secs lag max after running many apps. I later managed to increase that to perhaps 4. But later firmwares now seem to be quite immune to serious lag problems.
When it comes down to it though, your only way of knowing for sure whether it's the right phone for you, is to test them both.
However, you must be honest with yourself too. Anything to do with graphics is probably better on the Galaxy S (and the firmware is much more buggy still). But the HTC has a better experience at the moment. The Galaxy S also has a better screen, and a PROPER multitouch atmel controller, whereas most mobiles (including the nexus one) still use a hacked synaptics/single touch panel which can support multitouch (but doesn't actually do it properly, and it's easy to generate false ).
I wouldn't trade my Samsung Galaxy S though, even if I was offered full asking price. It really comes down to your needs. The Samsung might be the better long term solution (especially since Samsung are REALLY pushing it, which suggests they are serious about turning it mainstream), but the desire might be the better short term one.
It all comes down to your needs though, and patience. If you need fully accurate GPS right now, or are too impatient to wait 1 sec for an app to open, get the HTC desire. But, if you want a proper multitouch controller, MUCH faster GPU and better screen, Samsung Galaxy. At the end of the day, they are just mobile phones, you just need to go for it! I spent months wasting hours looking up reviews every week, and at the end, I just did it on a whim (had never even seen it in real life). The fact is, in actual real world use, the HTC desire is possibly a bit better for some people if they need accurate GPS for fitness and such (but ours will probably improve too with a bit of software improvements, or a new back case with a better antenna). Both have 802.11n, so you'll find that you can set your router to 802.11n mode only.
It's just a phone though. If you need a fashion accessory, the HTC legend might appeal to you. But as mentioned, what you need is everything.
Also, some people may complain about the build quality of the galaxy S (it uses a plastic back which snaps on). I'd say the build quality is fine (materials which are used doesn't mean a damn if your smartphone gets wet). In fact, I actually think its a pro point, because we can swap the back with a rubberdised one and simply get a screen protector/bumper. But yeah, nothing to worry about. The glass seems strong too.
Good luck.
alldino said:
Hello fellow Xda'ers! I have recently Sold my htc hd2 and I have decided to buy an Galaxy S I9000!!
Do you think this is a smart trade since i LOVE ANDROID, is there another device you could recommend?
Even if so,
Does anyone here know how to, or IF I can use Standard STock Android 2.1 OR 2.2
doesnt matter, I just want it to be Android stock...
Thanks and Please
Sincerely yours Aldin!
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Thanks so much for the quick answer!!! I have decided to get the galaxy s i9000!! Thank you so much for spending so much time writing and what a good page of information you gave me!! THANKS!
I confess I don't know so much about this, but what do you get if you compile the Eclair source released by Samsung (I assume it needs to be combined with AOSP)? Would that not give stock 2.1, since none of the TouchWiz apps are open source?
Perhaps a few drivers would be missing as they're only available as binaries, but we do have the binaries.
andrewluecke said:
2) "Lag". Some people are whinging that applications take too long to load, and some tasks lag. We KNOW the processor is awesome though, and we KNOW that the NAND chip is fast, so it's probably a configuration/software issue. Perhaps they simply need better caching in place. Also be aware, many people here are blowing the lag WAYYY out of proportion. Some people here will tell you their applications are lagging 10 secs, and that the lag killed their cat.
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10 seconds of lagg is not exaggerated. I even experienced a longer lagg.
Let''s say the lagg is only 4 seconds. I is annoying as hell if you you experience that 4 second lagg every 15 seconds while using your phone.
Ofcourse this all depends on what and how many applications you installed and are running.
Guys.. this is really the wrong forum.. This is Android development not Questions & Answers!
Please post your threads in the right sections!
When you have lags you can just use same lag fix... I don't know why you all complaining on lags when lag fixes makes this phone really fast. Othervise if you don't want to lose warranty than if you have enouth money take desire
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I don't want to make trouble, but I'm hoping there can be a dialog as to the viability of the Captivate as a long-term, stable cell phone.
Like probably everyone here, I found the ROM AT&T supplied for the Captivate to be practically (if not criminally) unusable even if I didn't care about my rights to do what I want with it (but I do). Thus I decided that I needed to flash it with something better.
Obviously, there are a lot of Captivate owners who work very hard (and presumably, enjoy) modifying and tweaking the Android system for their phone - and that's great - but I'm not one of them. I appreciate that people like to change the look of their <object> and that the latest-and-greatest functionality is an ever-moving target, but paramount to me for everything in my life is minimal maintenance.
I don't really care about flashy eye-candy and holiday color schemes if it is moderately consistent. I am not looking to squeeze the last 2% (or even 10%) of possible speed out of my phone, but I do want it to respond to my input within a few tenths of a second (faster w/ typing) unlike the stock ROM. I have to use a lock-code, so I don't give a fig about the number of lock screens. If I could flash my phone and never have a need (note: not desire) to do it again, that would be fantastic. If I have to re-flash it once every 6 months and don't need to (re)read long (long!) meandering threads with cryptic and often conflicting and (possibly - how to tell?) outdated information, I could live with that.
Basically, it seems like I have to choose between a fixed, official ROM that sucks, or a sea of ever-changing ROMs with stability problems and a lot of focus on look-and-feel.
I'm not here crying about not having the perfect phone experience, rather I'm interested in the opinion of you here, "in the know", as to whether there exists a Captivate ROM that is stable in both the short-term (little to no crashes or unplanned reboots) and in the long term (will function similarly for months when not tweaked beyond what say, TiBu or AdAway would do).
This is something I've been wondering for months now (as my Serendipidy ROM grew ever-more unstable), but it has come to a head now because my wife is insisting that I encounter so many problems with my Cappy (currently experiencing various problems with Serenity) that I need to get a new phone (and it should be an iPhone like hers). I am as jealous at her stability, battery life and lack of problems as I am loathe to sell my soul to live in the walled garden with the iDevil.
If the world of smart phones is really a choice among the walled garden, the astro-turfed basement and the slopes of a volcano in the jungle, then I will have to accept that and choose my fate. If the problem is Samsung/AT&T and Android is simply ambrosia on some other device/carrier (as my colleague claims), then I would love to know that too.
Sorry for the dissertation and thanks for the thoughts.
teknowledgist said:
I don't want to make trouble, but I'm hoping there can be a dialog as to the viability of the Captivate as a long-term, stable cell phone.
Like probably everyone here, I found the ROM AT&T supplied for the Captivate to be practically (if not criminally) unusable even if I didn't care about my rights to do what I want with it (but I do). Thus I decided that I needed to flash it with something better.
Obviously, there are a lot of Captivate owners who work very hard (and presumably, enjoy) modifying and tweaking the Android system for their phone - and that's great - but I'm not one of them. I appreciate that people like to change the look of their <object> and that the latest-and-greatest functionality is an ever-moving target, but paramount to me for everything in my life is minimal maintenance.
I don't really care about flashy eye-candy and holiday color schemes if it is moderately consistent. I am not looking to squeeze the last 2% (or even 10%) of possible speed out of my phone, but I do want it to respond to my input within a few tenths of a second (faster w/ typing) unlike the stock ROM. I have to use a lock-code, so I don't give a fig about the number of lock screens. If I could flash my phone and never have a need (note: not desire) to do it again, that would be fantastic. If I have to re-flash it once every 6 months and don't need to (re)read long (long!) meandering threads with cryptic and often conflicting and (possibly - how to tell?) outdated information, I could live with that.
Basically, it seems like I have to choose between a fixed, official ROM that sucks, or a sea of ever-changing ROMs with stability problems and a lot of focus on look-and-feel.
I'm not here crying about not having the perfect phone experience, rather I'm interested in the opinion of you here, "in the know", as to whether there exists a Captivate ROM that is stable in both the short-term (little to no crashes or unplanned reboots) and in the long term (will function similarly for months when not tweaked beyond what say, TiBu or AdAway would do).
This is something I've been wondering for months now (as my Serendipidy ROM grew ever-more unstable), but it has come to a head now because my wife is insisting that I encounter so many problems with my Cappy (currently experiencing various problems with Serenity) that I need to get a new phone (and it should be an iPhone like hers). I am as jealous at her stability, battery life and lack of problems as I am loathe to sell my soul to live in the walled garden with the iDevil.
If the world of smart phones is really a choice among the walled garden, the astro-turfed basement and the slopes of a volcano in the jungle, then I will have to accept that and choose my fate. If the problem is Samsung/AT&T and Android is simply ambrosia on some other device/carrier (as my colleague claims), then I would love to know that too.
Sorry for the dissertation and thanks for the thoughts.
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......so get an iPhone then........
Currently Fusionized
I bought my wife a 4gs on launch day, and its smooth but not without a few faults. The amount of repeat info here can turn into a maze of discouragement, but I think just a little more effort might yield the results you want. I'm currently running mosaic 8 with the latest semiphore kernel and its very stable to say the least.
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KK4 seems to be the final update and source code is out so things are about to get real good. There are 5-6 real nice stable roms out right now. Take the time to find one you like and stick with it.
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......so get an iPhone then........
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So, your view is that the Captivate and/or Android phones are best used by people who have both the skills and time to regularly - if not constantly - rebuild and tweak hidden and background settings always at some risk of bricking their several-hundred dollar device, and you see the iPhone as the proper choice for people who simply want something that works for their day-to-day use?
That's worse than what everyday users had to manage with DOS or in the early days of Linux or Windows 95. At least with those, your hardware wasn't (usually) at risk.
Is there no solution for those in the middle who want something that works day-to-day and allows them some freedom to make minor changes like block ads and install "unapproved" apps? Are they simply out of luck?
teknowledgist said:
I don't want to make trouble, but I'm hoping there can be a dialog as to the viability of the Captivate as a long-term, stable cell phone.
Like probably everyone here, I found the ROM AT&T supplied for the Captivate to be practically (if not criminally) unusable even if I didn't care about my rights to do what I want with it (but I do). Thus I decided that I needed to flash it with something better.
Obviously, there are a lot of Captivate owners who work very hard (and presumably, enjoy) modifying and tweaking the Android system for their phone - and that's great - but I'm not one of them. I appreciate that people like to change the look of their <object> and that the latest-and-greatest functionality is an ever-moving target, but paramount to me for everything in my life is minimal maintenance.
I don't really care about flashy eye-candy and holiday color schemes if it is moderately consistent. I am not looking to squeeze the last 2% (or even 10%) of possible speed out of my phone, but I do want it to respond to my input within a few tenths of a second (faster w/ typing) unlike the stock ROM. I have to use a lock-code, so I don't give a fig about the number of lock screens. If I could flash my phone and never have a need (note: not desire) to do it again, that would be fantastic. If I have to re-flash it once every 6 months and don't need to (re)read long (long!) meandering threads with cryptic and often conflicting and (possibly - how to tell?) outdated information, I could live with that.
Basically, it seems like I have to choose between a fixed, official ROM that sucks, or a sea of ever-changing ROMs with stability problems and a lot of focus on look-and-feel.
I'm not here crying about not having the perfect phone experience, rather I'm interested in the opinion of you here, "in the know", as to whether there exists a Captivate ROM that is stable in both the short-term (little to no crashes or unplanned reboots) and in the long term (will function similarly for months when not tweaked beyond what say, TiBu or AdAway would do).
This is something I've been wondering for months now (as my Serendipidy ROM grew ever-more unstable), but it has come to a head now because my wife is insisting that I encounter so many problems with my Cappy (currently experiencing various problems with Serenity) that I need to get a new phone (and it should be an iPhone like hers). I am as jealous at her stability, battery life and lack of problems as I am loathe to sell my soul to live in the walled garden with the iDevil.
If the world of smart phones is really a choice among the walled garden, the astro-turfed basement and the slopes of a volcano in the jungle, then I will have to accept that and choose my fate. If the problem is Samsung/AT&T and Android is simply ambrosia on some other device/carrier (as my colleague claims), then I would love to know that too.
Sorry for the dissertation and thanks for the thoughts.
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Cm7. Wipe data factory reset again after flashing, let it sit for 10 mins after first boot but before you sign in.
My vibrant was perfectly stable that way.
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MIUI, great fast ROM. All you have to do is flash the small update every week and everything stays the same. You don't loose data!
If you don't feel like doing the update every single week just skip a few here and there. Or got the latest Gingerbread leak(KK4) and use it. It is stable, has great battery life, and pretty fast, but still can't compare to MIUI/CM7 speeds!
I'm not sure what you mean by stock AT&T ROM being no good. I've used a Captivate that had the official AT&T stock 2.2 on it, and it was pretty darn good. I then loaded the "stock" AT&T gingerbread leak on it, and it was even better. Almost no lag at all, GPS worked great, and battery life was excellent. I think you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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I'm not sure what you mean by stock AT&T ROM being no good. I've used a Captivate that had the official AT&T stock 2.2 on it, and it was pretty darn good. I then loaded the "stock" AT&T gingerbread leak on it, and it was even better. Almost no lag at all, GPS worked great, and battery life was excellent. I think you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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I tried to use the stock 2.2. I really did. I was getting random shutdowns and reboots all the time and the lag, oh the lag! I can't tell you how many times I would hit an on-screen button and nothing would happen. I would hit it again a second or three later or try a different on screen-button, and still nothing. Thinking the app had crashed, I would hit home or back. Another second or two after that, everything I had done would process in a millisecond and I would be back at the home screen with no idea what I had done as the "extra" touches would register as some other command on the screens that followed and I didn't see.
Once I reflashed the first time, the lag went away and the shutdowns greatly diminished, but since then I have had various other problems. Things like:
- the phone telling me I had a cell signal when I didn't and because I don't make many outgoing calls or texts I just thought nobody wanted to talk to me. Meanwhile people were getting mad that I wasn't getting back to them.
- Apps "uninstalling" by themselves sometimes with a generic icon to replace them. Re-installing them sometimes worked and sometimes didn't (with the same app).
- Texts that come in 5 hours after they were sent and 2 hours after I emerged into a strong cell signal (I work in a sub-basement).
When I tried the KK4 stock, everything did seem to work well until I actually tried to use it as a phone. It said I had signal and I had data connection, but most calls would simply never dial, and while it would ring and I could see who was calling, I couldn't answer. This seems particularly bizarre to me as you would think the ROM/modem pair should work with all Captivates.
If you want stability, I'd recommend Firefly or Andromeda. They are both older and are Froyo builds, but ultra stable.
And I concur the out of the box Cappy 2.1 build was unusable...it's how I ended up here at xda! Unlike you however, I found that I do like tweaking my phone, and I've done some amount of that...not without peaks and valleys, but I currently really enjoy the Mosaic ROM with Semaphore JVZ kernel.
i897 running Mosaic 8.5
teknowledgist said:
So, your view is that the Captivate and/or Android phones are best used by people who have both the skills and time to regularly - if not constantly - rebuild and tweak hidden and background settings always at some risk of bricking their several-hundred dollar device, and you see the iPhone as the proper choice for people who simply want something that works for their day-to-day use?
That's worse than what everyday users had to manage with DOS or in the early days of Linux or Windows 95. At least with those, your hardware wasn't (usually) at risk.
Is there no solution for those in the middle who want something that works day-to-day and allows them some freedom to make minor changes like block ads and install "unapproved" apps? Are they simply out of luck?
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Unfortunately, it's shaping out that way. And it's only getting worse as time goes on and the fragments march in their separate directions. When there's 20 different fundamental ROMS (Sense, TouvhWiz, all the variations and so on), and 4000 different phones it becomes increasingly difficult to provide a consistent quality experience.
The worst part being I don't see a way out for Google or a light at the end of the tunnel for consumers short of starting over, which presents more problems than it solves.
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Madtowndave said:
If you want stability, I'd recommend Firefly or Andromeda. They are both older and are Froyo builds, but ultra stable.
And I concur the out of the box Cappy 2.1 build was unusable...it's how I ended up here at xda! Unlike you however, I found that I do like tweaking my phone, and I've done some amount of that...not without peaks and valleys, but I currently really enjoy the Mosaic ROM with Semaphore JVZ kernel.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
Actually, I think tweaking can be fun sometimes, but between work, family, house, etc. I'm usually stumbling through on 5 hours of sleep a night as it is (good thing I don't drive to work!). I simply don't have time to tweak, and I definitely can't be without a phone for a day or two.
MikeyMike01 said:
Unfortunately, it's shaping out that way. And it's only getting worse as time goes on and the fragments march in their separate directions. When there's 20 different fundamental ROMS (Sense, TouvhWiz, all the variations and so on), and 4000 different phones it becomes increasingly difficult to provide a consistent quality experience.
The worst part being I don't see a way out for Google or a light at the end of the tunnel for consumers short of starting over, which presents more problems than it solves.
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That's the sense I was getting, but when I would express it to anyone I know in meat-space, they just rolled their eyes and called me crazy. I started this thread with the optimistic hope that I was simply missing something.
It's good to know at least that I'm not alone in my thinking.
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KK4 seems to be the final update and source code is out so things are about to get real good.
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This is my hope.
I have had Cognition 5 on my phone since it was released. It has been the ultimate experience for me. Stable, GREAT battery life, awesome response, etc. It is the Plain Jane of ROMs and I won't use anything else.
at least not until a stable, working version of ICS is out. I've recently got my hands on a free captivate and have been using it as a testbed for ICS. Once I am satisfied, I will flash my everyday use Cappy to ICS and be done with flashing on this phone until I can upgrade this summer.
Im in your boat somewhat. I want all features of the device to work and I dont want reboots etc. Stability is critical.
For Froyo, Firefy 3.0 ROM gave up uptimes of 7-8 days without issue. I only rebooted once battery ran out.
GB ROMs Ive tried are all more unstable, but I have been on Illuminance 3.01 for over a week now and its running quite good. I reboot often though as I swap batteries, so I cant speak to up time but it goes over a day easily. Im using the ICS theme with it so it feels like I have a new device also.
Now that we have KK4 source I think we will see stability improve even more.
I see too many problems with the ICS builds so far but they are alpha afterall. Impressive progress from the devs working on it however!
Eventually my idea is to take the best of all the leaks and make a rock solid stable hybrid rom. Though most devs, including myself, try to cater to the masses. It seems what you are looking for isn't very popular. Most want more and better in their roms, i've tried both and still not overly successful at either. But it doesn't stop me from trying to create the best of both worlds. A solid stable rom with nice features, that doesn't deteriorate in performance over time. Hopefully a hybrid rom will solve a lot of issues we all face with the cappy.
The thing the iphone has going for it is the fact it is one manufacturer, apple. All the iphones are the same, same processor, same hardware, same specs, same, same, same. It makes it easy to have a tight knit development for the phone, so it is less prone to issues. But because of this tight, closed architecture, you don't have allot of choices as far as styles and hardware. Android and Windows, on the other hand, have multiple manufacturers and many choices of processors, hardware and styles to choose from. So it is much more difficult for Google and phone manufacturing developers to cater to all of the different phones and have each one run flawlessly. The same holds true for Linux and Windows with PC's. But I think the cappy has some of the best developers on XDA making great ROMs for it and these ROMs don't necessarily cater to hobbyists, they cater to captivate users in general.
Sometimes good things come to those who wait...
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In my own opinion, I think one of the best ROM's out there, and quite frankly possibly the most stable I've run to date is Phoenix Unleashed. It's Froyo JS8, and was the last of the 2.2 ROM's Adam put out. It was a ROM I would absolutely go to IF I ever got tired of flashing ROM's(don't really see that happening) and wanted to just have a phone that worked and worked well.
I'm too busy now playing with ICS.......but that is a story for another day
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In my own opinion, I think one of the best ROM's out there, and quite frankly possibly the most stable I've run to date is Phoenix Unleashed. It's Froyo JS8, and was the last of the 2.2 ROM's Adam put out. It was a ROM I would absolutely go to IF I ever got tired of flashing ROM's(don't really see that happening) and wanted to just have a phone that worked and worked well.
I'm too busy now playing with ICS.......but that is a story for another day
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I think there's something to that. Serendipity 6 was JS8 if I remember correctly.
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I think there's something to that. Serendipity 6 was JS8 if I remember correctly.
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By the way, no offence Mikey, I'm not in any way trying to imply that your ROM's are inferior, I just spent a TON of time with the Phoenix ROM's so my opinion comes from that alone
Currently have a Xperia SP, but need a little extra money in my wallet and just to add another reason, in all honestly there isn't enough ROM support for me personally, and i'm not one to wait
Thinking about getting this OR the HTC Sensation...
Seen the great ROM support for this phone, so would like to know a few questions if you wouldn't mind taking the time to help me
What is the camera quality like? (xperia SP is awful in this department)
Is it a "fast" phone? any really noticeable lag?
if the phone is locked to a network can you still unlock the bootloader? (Xperia's tend to not let you if you are locked to a network 99% of time)
and would you choose this over the sensation? I mainly play a few games, browse internet and text..... OH and install ROMS.
Thank you
I can not compare models and I might have other needs than you (I am not a gamer). But considered the age of this phone, an used one can not be expensive, and there are some great fast and stable ROMs out there and there is ongoing development.
Furthermore, it is impossible to brick: you can change bootloader (it can not be locked), ROM and kernel as much as you like and there are excellent tools for doing so. Try to look at my post here.
You have to understand, it is not a state of the art phone, and in order to use all features (BT and HDMI-output), you will probably have to run a ROM based on an older CM version. Please note that CM has not released stable versions since CM7.2, and will not, but some have managed to modify CM10-CM10.2 to run on p990.
I am very happy with the phone and like to follow development on this forum!
technostein said:
Currently have a Xperia SP, but need a little extra money in my wallet and just to add another reason, in all honestly there isn't enough ROM support for me personally, and i'm not one to wait
Thinking about getting this OR the HTC Sensation...
Seen the great ROM support for this phone, so would like to know a few questions if you wouldn't mind taking the time to help me
What is the camera quality like? (xperia SP is awful in this department)
Is it a "fast" phone? any really noticeable lag?
if the phone is locked to a network can you still unlock the bootloader? (Xperia's tend to not let you if you are locked to a network 99% of time)
and would you choose this over the sensation? I mainly play a few games, browse internet and text..... OH and install ROMS.
Thank you
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Here are my 2 cents. The main problem that plagues this otherwise quite likeable device is the RAM, or lack thereof. CPU as well as GPU are quite powerful despite being almost 3 years old.
Though one thing that goes in its favour, as you rightly mentioned, is the support of awesome developers. Guys like pengus77, tonyp, jishnu, sreeprajay, spyrosk & all the usual suspects have done such a awesome job of the utilizing every single ounce of its potential to the fullest.
It's usually fast as long as you manage your resources well. Don't allow too many services chewing precious RAM in the background. Using apps like "Greenify" comes quite handy to achieve the same.
Still, not a bad device to tinker around as long as one doesn't set his expectations a bit too high. Personally, I would suggest you to choose Sensation over this primarily for more available RAM. Having said that, Sensation has its own fair share of issues too like the infamous "death grip".
Basically choose your poison
Sorry to interrupt, but i'm in the same situation. Just changed my phone, and i like this one a lot more than a newer Samsung.
I'm looking for a rom, anything above CM7.2, preferrable 10.x at least with HDMI, BT and WiFi hotspot working.
I have flashed about 5 roms on the above CM10.x and everyone is missing a different thing, be it camera, BT or WiFi hotspot, even battery eating issues. (why no one makes a full one?)
And all lack HDMI.
I would use even a rom based on ICS if it has everything on it's place.
Altough, i really liked the new lock screen on CM10.2 meanwhile overclocking and Kowalsky opened a few doors.
Does anyone know of any mostly stable rom closest to this?
Which would be the newest ROM of any flavor with everything working and no battery issues?
I tried quite a few ROMs & here's my set-up. The best so far I could find in terms of performance, stability & battery life was pengus77's "Unofficial CM 10 ROM" coupled with his own Kowalski M1 Stable Kernel.
Though being primarily a CM10 based ROM which is a derivative of 4.1.2, it will not have lock screen widgets if that's the thing you really care about. As far as camera is concerned, I use jishnu sur's camera mod.
Thanks for your answer and my apologies for the thread opener for the kidnap.
I dont care much for the lockscreen widgets. Is just something that could be helpful.
I'm having real trouble with battery life when 3g enabled, overnight my battery drop about 1%, today i enabled 3g and tt went down by almost 30% in only 2 hours. Quite dissapointing issue.
By any chance do you know where could i find more info. about HDMI not working issue? I can't believe that no one ported the driver or worked it out since it appeared.
Frankly, I have neither tested HDMI out function nor it has any real world use in my case. My best guess is it'll work with Stock based Custom ROMs & stock ROM itself of course. You may test it out with Pengus77's ROM if it works.
why don't you want to downgrade to another better phone, for example to Xperia M it's really cheaper and much better than Optimus 2x.
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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1GB is more than enough in most phones, I've never had RAM management problems with this one.
However, my answer is a big NO.
Let me elaborate;
>Battery life
With proper greenifying, wakelock detecting, and no more than 2% per 12h of battery discharge, it has a decent battery life, but it seems the screen and the tegra 3 chip draw a lot of power from it. An extended battery does fix that though, but don't expect more than 3h of screentime on a normal usage day and 60-70% brightness, on a normal battery.
>Stock ROM
Looks great, feels great, kernel is easily updated (if you got the bootloader unlocked, flash another one), and then works great too. This phone, in my opinion is meant to be the LG Optimus G's younger brother. I've tried a lot of custom roms, but stock is the one that takes it away from me, after properly kdz flashed (without the bloat apps and stuff).
>Heating issues
10 mins of playing, well, pretty much anything that's 3D makes the phone really hot, no thermal throttling though, but don't expect this phone to last if you play an hour of gaming or more. Even Subway Surf kills the battery.
>Tegra 3 incompatibility/unoptimized apps
Most games are made with Adreno in mind, needless to say, Adreno is not better than the T3, just has more optimizations done for it. Also some apps aren't available via the Play Store on this phone, but that can vary depending on your region.
In my opinion, I'd always go with an SGS3, even with stock touch wiz and bloat, because
a) it gets proper software updates, unlike LG and all of their devices, not just the 4X HD.
b) better modding support/community
c) apparently heats up a lot less and lasts a lot more, that also means given its support there's bound to be more extended batteries, cases, stands, cradles, docks, and equipment for it.
The only thing the 4X HD has going for it is the price, I've paid 180e for it, and it was a huge step up from an even worse phone than yours (Samsung Galaxy Mini, s5570), but so far, I'm not a happy camper.
And the screen has a dead pixel on it, which irks me a lot.
Oh and apparently someone took the KDZ repository on that one site down. Dunno what the deal with that is too.
darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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i would buy it, since it has good specs, and with custom roms you will have support for quite some time in future, i hope
1 GB of ram for me is enough, i don't play games on it, and after greenify hibernates apps, i got around 400 - 450 mb free, rom is latest vanir rom 4.3.1. dated 26.10.2013., and i am also using killjoy script
phone works really good, only little problem is with baseband_xmm_power wakelock, but devs are working on that and slow but surely this problem is getting reduced
camera is good for taking pictures, at least for me
i would only like that lock key is on the right side, current position is little awkward, but you get used to it
that's it from me
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
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Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
Flying_Bear said:
Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
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Would love to have one, but they're pretty expensive for me.
After some 'extensive' research, I have finally found the Xperia ZR. Maybe I might get it once the price drops (next year perhaps). Had earlier found the Optimus G to my liking, but I just dislike the glass back and front . Well, both have CM support which is a good thing for me
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Do not buy this phone. I repeat DO NOT!
Battery life sucks, and it gets hot. It is a fricking smart frying pan. Seriously you can cook an egg on it. And it lags oh boy it lags like hell.
A good phone shouldn't need this much optimization to work better. I tried every CM, kernel etc but either you get good battery life and ****ty gaming performance or you get good performance and horrible battery life (like 2-3 hours max).
Get Optimus G or S3 but don't get this.
darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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If you can get it for a good price and are willing to root and customize it, it's probably the best bang for a buck you can get at the moment.
The IPS screen is simply gorgeous. It's even more pleasing to the eye than my HTC One LCD screen if you ask me my honest opinion. Yes, it tends to drain the battery heavily, but with the right configuration you can get over 3 and even 4 hours of screen time easily. Oh, and I can't seem to get any scratches on it. Impressive since I don't use a case or any kind of screen protection and carry it around in my pocket all day. Only downside: fingerprints!
I like it's design and build quality. Even though it's all plastic, it neither feels nor looks (too) cheap. More important: all the buttons are in the right place for me. The ridged back provides some extra grip and looks quite OK (from a distance ) and so does the fake metal finish on the sides. It has to be the best fake metal in the business because it's still intact after dropping on my bathroom floor twice.
My biggest issue with this phone (besides being ignored by LG) has to be the sound quality. The silly speaker on the back is nearly useless when the phone is laying down. Picking it up doesn't improve anything.
I can't really comment on this phone's gaming capabilities. I don't really use my phone for that, sorry.
The only alternative I would consider in your position would be the Nexus 4. You should be able to pick it up for a fair price once Google releases the Nexus 5.
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Tough call
darthbii said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.
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The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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If you don't mind me asking what GPS tweaks have you done?
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Sorry about the double post the xda app isn't playing well with my phone
sent from my Optimus 4x
just hit the thanks button
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
frankie_p said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
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Oh I already did this a while back and now use topNTP from the play store to install it lol. I asked because even with thid I can only get about 4-6 satellites in about 15 mins
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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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lol this is disaster mine is just fine. the real disadvantage of this phone is only the low bitrate and framerate of the camera , but thats just how the lg made it. we cant change the hardware. besides that my phone works fine
So you are saying that:
- 3rd party cameras with autofocus and flash are working fine using a custom ROM as in CM based ROM? Which one please? so I can try it.
- No wakelocks at all? What kernel are you using and how do you use your phone? Gaming?, Internet (WIFI/3G) on all the time? FB/Tweeter/G+ on with auto updates all the time?
- Connecting to a car's BT to stream music works ALL the time?
- You can syncronize more than 10GB's in one go to the external microSD with no issues ALL the time?
You must be using either a stock ROM or one based on a stock ROM.
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
N4R4Y4N said:
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
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this forum is for optimux 4x so i can only say about that one. the camera is bad. the bitrate and fps are low. so have in mind that and choose. about other phones u can check them in their forum. the reason is... because we dont own them all xD
Hi,
So I have been looking around for a while which ROM is going to fit with me.
I've always been a graphic-nerd, and I loved the good looking interface of all my HTC devices I owned in the past.
I am still that graphic-nerd, but I am going to get an iPhone 6 later this year (Pls don't hate hahaha, its personal preference) and now I want my HTC One to be the one that saves my life in the last few months.
I want it to have a quite nice interface, and a very good battery life, and a smooth UI.
The battery life is very important to me, since my days are getting longer, and I travel much sometimes, wich means variating connectivity strength.
My battery life doesn't run for 11 hours which I do need it, while using Whatsapp, and some other social apps.
I was thinking about Cyanogenmod myself, since you can also install nice and sleek skins with that.
What are your opinions for my needs? Which ROM, and in combination with which kernel?
Much thanks in advance!
joshoon said:
Hi,
So I have been looking around for a while which ROM is going to fit with me.
I've always been a graphic-nerd, and I loved the good looking interface of all my HTC devices I owned in the past.
I am still that graphic-nerd, but I am going to get an iPhone 6 later this year (Pls don't hate hahaha, its personal preference) and now I want my HTC One to be the one that saves my life in the last few months.
I want it to have a quite nice interface, and a very good battery life, and a smooth UI.
The battery life is very important to me, since my days are getting longer, and I travel much sometimes, wich means variating connectivity strength.
My battery life doesn't run for 11 hours which I do need it, while using Whatsapp, and some other social apps.
I was thinking about Cyanogenmod myself, since you can also install nice and sleek skins with that.
What are your opinions for my needs? Which ROM, and in combination with which kernel?
Much thanks in advance!
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Best Rom threads are not allowed here ...look around and try what sounds good to you
joshoon said:
Hi,
So I have been looking around for a while which ROM is going to fit with me.
I've always been a graphic-nerd, and I loved the good looking interface of all my HTC devices I owned in the past.
I am still that graphic-nerd, but I am going to get an iPhone 6 later this year (Pls don't hate hahaha, its personal preference) and now I want my HTC One to be the one that saves my life in the last few months.
I want it to have a quite nice interface, and a very good battery life, and a smooth UI.
The battery life is very important to me, since my days are getting longer, and I travel much sometimes, wich means variating connectivity strength.
My battery life doesn't run for 11 hours which I do need it, while using Whatsapp, and some other social apps.
I was thinking about Cyanogenmod myself, since you can also install nice and sleek skins with that.
What are your opinions for my needs? Which ROM, and in combination with which kernel?
Much thanks in advance!
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