Bloat Freezer - issue - LG Optimus 2x

Hey guys, today i tried to open bloat freezer, and i got the message that needs update, when i clicked to update, i got the message that is not available at the market.
I checked market via pc and i found it, but its not available anymore for me for installation
(although i have already bought it). So im wondering is it closed for me or for any P990 users ?
any1 have experinced the same ?

Just checked as I have it installed as well. I can't see any issues with it but I have it set to auto update.
Still seems to be appearing the the market.

I had the same issue and by installing another rom it disappeared but don't ask me why because it came back on another rom. I think it was on the mdc rom's
so try to install another rom.
Deinstalling the app won't work i already tried that several times

Bloat has been blocked from the market. Dont know why, but there seems like the app is doing something Google isn't happy about, as they have blocked/removed bloatfreezer two times now...I have been in contact with them, and got the following response. I decided to but MyBackupPro instead, as it gives the same possibilities and alot of other functionality as well
If you are an old customer that is having problems upgrading to the
latest version, instructions are below, please continue reading. If
you are a new customer with another issue, you can ignore this email
and I will respond to your email as soon as I can.
As you have probably noticed, Google removed the original Bloat
Freezer from the market for a stupid error in the app's description.
This makes it impossible for you to upgrade normally to the latest
version. There is nothing that we could have done to prevent this, and
Google refuses to reinstate the original app after we fixed the error.
We apologize greatly for the inconvenience and want you to know that
we love our customers and want to make this as easy as possible for
you no matter how hard Google tries to make it!!!
Below are instructions to get us the info I need to transition your
purchase from the old version to the new:
1. Go ahead and purchase the new version that is in the market.
2. Go to checkout.google.com and find BOTH the original order number
and the new order number and email both of these to us.
3. We will then refund your purchase for the original order ASAP.
4. You can then continue using the new version and get updates as
normal forever.
Once again, we apologize greatly for this inconvenience and are doing
this the best way possible. We hope that you will help us get back to
our 4.7 star rating by leaving a rating AND a comment in the market so
that others know that the new Bloat Freezer works just as great as the
old.
Thank you for understanding and sticking with us through this speed
bump that Google threw our way, we appreciate each and every one of
our customers and will be doing lots of manual labor to get all of
these orders transfered.
Trey Holland
Developer - Bloat Freezer
[email protected]
http://BloatFreezer.com
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how do you download the new version (as per that email)?
There is no new version. it doesn't exist on the market
Another reason not to pay for apps thanks to google

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Official Google Nav for 1.6 and above in Market

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/google-maps-navigation-officially-comes-to-android-1-6/
When trying to download onto my phone from the Market, I get an error message 'Package file was not signed correctly.'
I'm running Cyanogen 4.2.5 on my Rogers Magic 32A.
Doesn't work for me in denmark
I think this is only US.
It's been released for the Market on all devices, but I think it has something to do with our devices using test-keys and not release-keys...
Thoughts?
Same problem in Belgium with 32A using CyanogenMod 4.2.5 with Kernel 2.6.29bfs.
Very sad
working fantastic on my MT3G running Dwang 1.13. Didn't get an 'update available' notification, but installing it from the market worked flawlessly. I gotta say, navigation with google layers is freakin' awesome
cursordroid said:
When trying to download onto my phone from the Market, I get an error message 'Package file was not signed correctly.'
I'm running Cyanogen 4.2.5 on my Rogers Magic 32A.
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I have the same phone and ROM version and it updated just fine from the Market. However, I did push the software to my phone, following the instructions here. Not sure if that's why it works without issue.
So i guess its confirmed that this is still US only. BAH
"Some features of Android 2.0 are not available on Android 1.6, for example, the ability to use the "navigate to" voice command as shown in our demo video. However, you can still create a shortcut that will allow you to launch Navigation and start getting directions to a specific place from your current location with just a single touch from your home screen."
Source: http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/11/happy-thanksgiving-travels-google-maps.html
ugh...
If it is US only, why did they not restrict it to the US on the market ? Or maybe that's technically not possible with the current market configuration ?
Neejay said:
"Some features of Android 2.0 are not available on Android 1.6, for example, the ability to use the "navigate to" voice command as shown in our demo video. However, you can still create a shortcut that will allow you to launch Navigation and start getting directions to a specific place from your current location with just a single touch from your home screen."
Source: http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/11/happy-thanksgiving-travels-google-maps.html
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Or you can search the Market for 'Nav Launcher' and it will enable these features through an external application. Works fine for me.
Same issue on a Mytouch 3G (32B,) in the US and also running Cyanogen 4.2.5.
This is a fresh install of cyanogen as well (literally nothing more than the 1.6 base image and then the cyanogen update.)
I'm also getting the "package not signed" error. Not sure what the problem is. Running CyanogenMod Android 1.6, but I honestly don't remember what version of Cyanogen it is.
This official update no different than the 1.6 hacked Maps w/Navigation that was pulled from the Droid dump.
Even if you can get it installed, you still need to use either Directions shortcuts or the Nav Launcher to get it working outside the US.
I keep getting errors cannont remove / no such file or directory
on cyan 4.2.5 seams like nothing different from 2.0 droid nav
I sure do wish that people stop giving apps 1 start because it doesn't work on cyanogenmod..... these are precisely the people that bring down heat on developers with their crying. God forbid they have to do a search on the net... and, dare I say, read 3 lines of text.
People need to realize we are not flashing official software here, and so we have no right to b*tch if something that's made for official software doesn't work on our hacked ones. There is not one dev here that I can remember who doesn't clearly say that if you break your phone it's your responsibility, not his, or the manufacturers. That's why we have this community here, if you're having problems most members here will help you out however they can because that's what this place is about tweaking our equipment as much as possible and fixing it when we mess up. I would say most people here enjoy helping others out with tech related stuff, I know I do in whatever way possible, but I have no sympathy for those that can't be a$$ed to read a few lines and just want to flash their phones with total disregard of what could happen.
How do you think google feels everytime they see a one star rating on one of their apps, or any other app, that works perfectly fine on official images when the person comments "DIS SUXXORS, IT B NOT WORKING ON C.M 4.2.5"? It's a miracle they didn't crack down on cyanogen much sooner than they did. PLEASE, PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE if you have issues with something you downloaded from XDA or any other site on the net that deals with this kind of stuff, don't go complaining to your mobile carrier, or whoever developed your mobile's official software; come here and ask for help... besides 99% of the time I'm fairly sure that we'll do a much better job of helping than anybody you can contact from your mobile carrier, or official developers. Also, if you brick you're phone be responsible for you're mistake; don't try to be sly and send it in because it's not working to your dev because again this only attracts unnecessary attention to this site. I'm fairly sure that cease & desist that xda received from MS a few years back was due to precisely this.
I've customized windows mobile, palm, symbian, android phones, plus ps1, ps2, ps3, psp, wii, and so far I've never brick anything, or at least not to the point I can't bring it back, so does this mean I'm super lucky? or super smart? Not really, it's quite simple really my secret is this: READ, Read like your equipment depended on it because quite frankly IT DOES.
Sorry for the rant guys, it's not directed at any one of you, but maybe just maybe one of these "people" will find it and correct themselves. I'd actually wish the mods would post something on the main page, but then again who am I kidding the problem originally arises from them not reading in the first place.
I agree.
Also not working on my phone (32a Magic). Currently looking for a work around.
I have searched for:
Google
Google Maps
Google Maps Navigation
Navigation
Etc, Etc, Etc...
and can NOT find this version in the market???
I updated to the latest "Google Maps" from the market, but it does not have the NAV Features.
AHA!
Redownloaded and now get the "Package Not Signed" error as well.
CyanogenMod-4.2.5

How do we get a work around for Sprint Nfl App G1??

Havent been able to find anything related to the G1 for this and am wondering if some one has or has any work around ideas. This app was one of the working apks that we were able to use off the sprint hero dump from last month but now they have put out an upgrade file to download, once u download this upgrade from the prompt in the app it will install then telll u this is for sprint customers only
So u can uninstall then reinstall the original apk and still have the widget work but anytime u try to launch the Nfl mobile it will require the "updgrade".
Really stinks, was a great app to use, hoping some one has some skills to figure this one out!
i had the same problem before cause i had the sprint updater app installed but, without the updater installed it gave the the update speech again... it was good while it lasted...
you might be able to edit the build.prop so that the phone recognizes as a sprint device.... I am not really too sure though.
This should be moved to the applications forum....Also, the sprint apps, I believe are considered warez, and therefore you probably won't be able to find them on these forums.
Try editing the build.prop and faking the carrier (getprop & setprop)
awesome maxisma thanks for the suggestion! Im going to do some research on how to execute that and give it a try. ill let yea know how it goes Reg442
I didnt get any prompt for that upgrade?
...it works on g1/dream. I am not sure it is 100% functional but it does what i need it for, i use it every sunday...
if its still working for you it wont for much longer. The new version doesnt work and the old version forces you to upgrade. The original apk needs to be edited to not force the update. I dont believe this belongs in the app section since it requires development to get this app working again
nicdub said:
Havent been able to find anything related to the G1 for this and am wondering if some one has or has any work around ideas. This app was one of the working apks that we were able to use off the sprint hero dump from last month but now they have put out an upgrade file to download, once u download this upgrade from the prompt in the app it will install then telll u this is for sprint customers only
So u can uninstall then reinstall the original apk and still have the widget work but anytime u try to launch the Nfl mobile it will require the "updgrade".
Really stinks, was a great app to use, hoping some one has some skills to figure this one out!
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I did this, then went back tot he original apk and every weekend it works for me or when a game is on. At least getting all the scores of the game works that's all I really used it for anyways.
Ya I used this app for awhile. I know that it was fully working on rogers roms, but the nfl network live stream and vids dissappered when using a hero rom (well sense hero by cc). I used the build.prop from eno rogers w/cc's sense hero and nfl network part started working again. Then I got the dreaded update. I assumed something can be edited in the build.prop, but haven't tried yet.
Might want to start by replacing ur current build.prop with the one from sprint hero dump, but be ready for fc's. Also going to have to have wifi as it is cdma and u won't have a radio signal, but its a good starting point...
Anyone have any luck on this? ** BUMP **
I figured this one out long ago: edit the build.prop. This worked for the videos and everything else before the update, but the update checks for something else outside of the build.prop now. I suppose it wouldn't be that difficult to disable the updating part; I'll try to take a look at it again this weekend (possibly tomorrow) but no promises on how quickly I'll solve the problem as I have exams next week.
I already have it dissected, so it'd just a matter of finding what either:
A) the new app is checking for to validate that you're a sprint customer
or
B) disabling the updating part in the older app (but this might not be part of the app, as it could easily be part of the webpage, making this option a lot less viable)
Too bad...
This NFL app was very good. I was disappointed when the upgrade came but figured something would be done eventually to take that away from us. There are some other great apps out there and I would imagine they will only get better. This Monday night I was in the car for four hours on a business trip and used SportsTap to keep tabs on my Patriots and it was a fairly good experience. Also, the NBA has started putting out some of its own apps that are pretty good, so I can't imagine it taking much longer to get an NFL app in the market that will be as good if not better on all Android devices.
Hey rockdevourer, got an update on this at all?
id like to know too cause i dont have a login for superfan
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Hey rockdevourer, got an update on this at all?
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Sorry, didn't recheck this thread. But as of now, I DO have an update
So here's been my work from the past few weeks (al beit, not much lol):
I figured out several different possible methods to either disable the update check in the original APK and also a different method to disable the check for the sprint customer check. For some reason, the NFL_prod (newest version of it as far as I know) is looking for some Sprint file that doesn't exist on the G1 (obviously) and it seems that it uses a boolean to check it so that's a cake walk.
Here was my problem of not being able to do anything about it: I couldn't install either of the APKs due to not having the original key. But a few minutes ago, I found the stupid key. They left it in the APKs for my viewing pleasure apparently
Soooo, long story short, I pretty much figured it out. I haven't recompiled the APKs with the new keys yet because I probably have to redo all of my modifications on both of the APKs and test which ones work. Sorry about not updating, life has been hectic. Expect another update here soon (probably not tonight because I'm going to go watch the Colts game at a local restaurant)
Feel free to follow me on Twitter as well, that way it's easier to give updates and let you know when my work is completed.
http://www.twitter.com/rockdevourer
Edit: it appears the Sprint TV app thing has the key in it as well, but I haven't touched that one yet and dunno if I will. Maybe if there's a lot of people wanting it I suppose I could take a look at it. The security measures in these programs are God-awful.
rockdevourer said:
Sorry, didn't recheck this thread. But as of now, I DO have an update
So here's been my work from the past few weeks (al beit, not much lol):
I figured out several different possible methods to either disable the update check in the original APK and also a different method to disable the check for the sprint customer check. For some reason, the NFL_prod (newest version of it as far as I know) is looking for some Sprint file that doesn't exist on the G1 (obviously) and it seems that it uses a boolean to check it so that's a cake walk.
Here was my problem of not being able to do anything about it: I couldn't install either of the APKs due to not having the original key. But a few minutes ago, I found the stupid key. They left it in the APKs for my viewing pleasure apparently
Soooo, long story short, I pretty much figured it out. I haven't recompiled the APKs with the new keys yet because I probably have to redo all of my modifications on both of the APKs and test which ones work. Sorry about not updating, life has been hectic. Expect another update here soon (probably not tonight because I'm going to go watch the Colts game at a local restaurant)
Feel free to follow me on Twitter as well, that way it's easier to give updates and let you know when my work is completed.
http://www.twitter.com/rockdevourer
Edit: it appears the Sprint TV app thing has the key in it as well, but I haven't touched that one yet and dunno if I will. Maybe if there's a lot of people wanting it I suppose I could take a look at it. The security measures in these programs are God-awful.
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u 'da man
Going to need a ginnea pig here soon, hit me up on google chat: rockdevourer AT gmail DOT com
Sweet success! Working out a few last bugs then it shall be ready
The only two bugs that I'm aware of at the moment include:
A) Widget doesn't work at the moment (this is definitely not a high priority on my list)
and
B) NFL Network doesn't show the video part yet, but audio is functional. The featured videos, etc, all work properly with the video and audio; it's just the NFL Network Live part isn't fully functional yet. This should be fairly easy to fix, as I have done this before.
Just wanted to post an update real quick Back to squashing B first and then A if it's not too time consuming. This project has been a real nightmare, but oh-so worth it!
Edit: Forgot to add, the NFL Network is fully functional on the Droid according to a tester, many thanks to aimbriano!

Copy-Protected Apps in Market with 3rd Party ROMS

Is there any workaround...?
Whats the problem ?
All the apps i have ever bought / downloaded, via the market work fine.
I believe this is what he's talking about
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
http://androinica.com/2009/02/23/some-paid-apps-unavailable-on-unlocked-phones/
It appears that as of February, Google made it so whenever a developer selects the "Copy Protected" option when listing their application on the marketplace, that application will not appear for any rooted phone or developer phone. Basically it seems they did this because a rooted or developer phone can extract the APK file after purchasing an app, and then return it while still keeping the application.
I recently became aware of this today as I was working with a developer to determine why his application would not appear in the market. It's a shame - the majority of the root community is not out there to STEAL apps, we support our developers, I was trying to find his application on the market so I could BUY it. I really wanted to purchase the application and now I have no way to do it, simply because I wanted to use my phone to it's full extent instead of being stuck on the stock firmware.
rabeatz said:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
http://androinica.com/2009/02/23/some-paid-apps-unavailable-on-unlocked-phones/
It appears that as of February, Google made it so whenever a developer selects the "Copy Protected" option when listing their application on the marketplace, that application will not appear for any rooted phone or developer phone. Basically it seems they did this because a rooted or developer phone can extract the APK file after purchasing an app, and then return it while still keeping the application.
I recently became aware of this today as I was working with a developer to determine why his application would not appear in the market. It's a shame - the majority of the root community is not out there to STEAL apps, we support our developers, I was trying to find his application on the market so I could BUY it. I really wanted to purchase the application and now I have no way to do it, simply because I wanted to use my phone to it's full extent instead of being stuck on the stock firmware.
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Any example of apps not showing up on the market for us?
Gilliland12 said:
Any example of apps not showing up on the market for us?
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Search for the application Accudial on the market. It's copy protected. I get 0 results. Thats the one Example I am aware of but it also could be related to the fact that I'm on a 2.0.1 ROM instead of the older ones, switching back to test again. It's kind of hard to determine whether or not there are apps being hidden from us, if we don't know the app exists how are we gonna know it's hidden from our results?
It's because your on a Eclair rom..just searched on the WG 10 (Donut) and got AccuDial and AccuDial Free
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
rabeatz said:
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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I can find all of those apps they mention.
Dunno.
rabeatz said:
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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They did lift the "block", I know of at least 2 protected apps that I can use, Nesoid and Mobile Defense (not protected anymore but it ised to be)
Right now, I can only find Accudial Free but not Accudial. I'm on Cyan 4.2.9.1.
Maybe that's because I'm not in the US??? Or that I don't have a Google Checkout account???
Thanks!
rabeatz said:
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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That was a long time ago.
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That was a long time ago.
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The fair labor standards act was passed in 1938. Still in effect today. Just because Google made the change 10 months ago doesn't mean it suddenly was removed.. Whenever I search on the topic all I can find is info that says that access to copy protected apps been disallowed, can't find any article that mentions them removing the block.
I'm not saying it hasn't been removed, but it's kind of hard for me to know whether or not i'm being blocked from applications, I don't know what ones are copy protected and what ones aren't, or if theyre being blocked from me, because they simply wouldn't show up and I wouldn't even know they exist.
If the block has in fact been removed, it'd be nice to see if anyone could find an article that mentions it. Everything online talks about the block being placed
rabeatz said:
The fair labor standards act was passed in 1938. Still in effect today. Just because Google made the change 10 months ago doesn't mean it suddenly was removed.. Whenever I search on the topic all I can find is info that says that access to copy protected apps been disallowed, can't find any article that mentions them removing the block.
I'm not saying it hasn't been removed, but it's kind of hard for me to know whether or not i'm being blocked from applications, I don't know what ones are copy protected and what ones aren't, or if theyre being blocked from me, because they simply wouldn't show up and I wouldn't even know they exist.
If the block has in fact been removed, it'd be nice to see if anyone could find an article that mentions it. Everything online talks about the block being placed
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Search Nesoid, that is a protected app. If you see the paid version then they lifted the block
Have you ran market enabler?
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Have you ran market enabler?
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What's that...?
Edit: Got it... http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/ And it works... Thanks for the tip...!
Edit 2: Market Enabler works by mimicking certain APNs, be sure to backup your current APN first and restore it after getting the apps (it can be done within Market Enabler).
Cheers.

Skype release from VZW today...

Tried to download the new Skype app Verizon released today from skype dot com/vzw and I get the "There are no matches in Android Market for the search com.skype.android.verizon
Am wondering if it's because I updated my phone to the leaked 2.1 and it's looking for 1.5 or ???
Anyone else tried this, especially anyone that's still on 1.5?
Thanks in advance for any info.
I'm getting that same result when searching for almost any app I'm trying to download. Even when using the QR code to an app I know is active in the market, my phone doesn't find any results.
It's wearing me out. Hope someone has an explanation. I have a feeling it is due to the leaked 2.1.
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I'm getting that same result when searching for almost any app I'm trying to download. Even when using the QR code to an app I know is active in the market, my phone doesn't find any results.
It's wearing me out. Hope someone has an explanation. I have a feeling it is due to the leaked 2.1.
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The android Market filters what apps show up due to your system version. So if you are running 2.1, like I am, and you try to find an application that only runs on an OS up to say... 1.5, then it won't show up.. :/
I tried this method....and it didnt work for me,but I am on a custom ROM, if you have the 2.1 OTA with root, you might be able to do this..
I didn't modify any files, I just did a bit of researching and found this
download this file:
www(dot)sendspace(dot)com/file/rnwab1
it is supposedly the 2.1 release version.
MD5sum= 5dc96431fae1be1aa51d7c50889273a5
then put this on the root of your SDcard
next, download installer from the android market and then run it... then select the zip file from the list and install..
---when I tried opening skype, it said "skype can only be used on verizon wireless phones"
I would like to know if this works for anyone...
this is a network issue not a version issue. most apps are designed to run on 1.5 so your past version check argument is a bust. but Verizon has not registered our device as being 2.1 compliant and until they do we will not have full functionality of the market. that's the way of the root game. us rooters being on the bleeding edge of android get locked out of a few things till our carrier catches up.
rigamrts said:
this is a network issue not a version issue. most apps are designed to run on 1.5 so your past version check argument is a bust. but Verizon has not registered our device as being 2.1 compliant and until they do we will not have full functionality of the market. that's the way of the root game. us rooters being on the bleeding edge of android get locked out of a few things till our carrier catches up.
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OK, thanks for the update, much appreciated.
rigamrts said:
this is a network issue not a version issue. most apps are designed to run on 1.5 so your past version check argument is a bust. but Verizon has not registered our device as being 2.1 compliant and until they do we will not have full functionality of the market. that's the way of the root game. us rooters being on the bleeding edge of android get locked out of a few things till our carrier catches up.
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I sort of figured as much, and was after some happy logical confirmation type thinking which you've provided.
I don't really mind, just wanted to make sure that was why, and not something I was doing incorrectly.
Thanks.

note 4, facebook and some other questions

as i was considering the note 4 and contemplating between note 4 and lg [i think it was] g4, i had the problem with deciding becoz of one has fb on it, the other one no pen. [my carrier is t-mobile, although not in the us, i sit in the eu, but i don't think there are too many differences, hopefully]
which leads me to my problem.
1/ if i turn on the phone without sim or anything inside, and disable the apps i don't need/want, will they go dead, or will in the case of fb happen this:
[there would have been some links from android central where is described that fb-app updates itself outside of play even when disabled. that this is some kind of security issue, and that they told google about it, also fb about that, with the answer live with it or change your phone. they also told samsung about it. and that there is a samsung usa ticket for that: 2135760316 [that post is from 05-13-2015, 11:32 AM, by kelly kearns]. as it is impossible to post links, that's the only way i can put it here somehow]
so basically, there is no way to get rid of this useless thing, if i understand it correctly? and i have to accept, that even if disabled, it will still enable itself and update? therefore, next point ... if there is no account of that junk, does it still try to get every thing on the phone because of the permissions it has been granted, even if it is disabled?
therefore², if i disable an app, does that mean, its basically dead i.e. doesn't do anything compared to being enabled? or what does disable exactly mean?
[um, yes, i totally dislike fb, therefore ... you get my point]
1.1/ in one of the copied links above [or was it somewhere else] someone said something about an app that freezes other apps or something like that. might that have the desired effect for me?
1.2/ after putting in the sim and signing in to google ... what will that disabled fb do? or is it basically as said in the screenshot of that conversation ... you not liek, take other phone? [who are they? god? .... oh ... wait, actually ... given the ties to nsa ... nevermind]
2/ as this is my second android phone, so, if i add the google account on that phone, it copies every thing that's stored on the old one to the new one. but ... wot exactly happens with the apps it copies? are they still the same version as on the old phone or during the copying are they being updated? i'm asking, coz there are some i don't want to be updated, tune in for example [as i don't like the added social something and wotever came after my version]. or stays the app the same and i have to update it myself?
2.1/ regarding copying ... wot happens with my sms and call logs? and, can i decide what i want to be copied or is there no option of choice?
2.2/ same goes with the games i copy ... like the doctor who one from tiny rebel games. do i lose the current point where i am or not?
3/ is there any way to port or copy the s note from note 2 also over to note 4, or any chance to find the apk of it somewhere? it's just, that the note 4 version doesn't do idea note and sketch any longer, as those are the two templates i used most, as it is.
[eta] 3.1/ what about the dictionary and the handwriting? does it have to learn both from scratch or is it also going to be copied?
tnx a lot in forward for answering my questions,
meh
meh_ said:
as i was considering the note 4 and contemplating between note 4 and lg [i think it was] g4, i had the problem with deciding becoz of one has fb on it, the other one no pen. [my carrier is t-mobile, although not in the us, i sit in the eu, but i don't think there are too many differences, hopefully]
which leads me to my problem.
1/ if i turn on the phone without sim or anything inside, and disable the apps i don't need/want, will they go dead, or will in the case of fb happen this:
[there would have been some links from android central where is described that fb-app updates itself outside of play even when disabled. that this is some kind of security issue, and that they told google about it, also fb about that, with the answer live with it or change your phone. they also told samsung about it. and that there is a samsung usa ticket for that: 2135760316 [that post is from 05-13-2015, 11:32 AM, by kelly kearns]. as it is impossible to post links, that's the only way i can put it here somehow]
so basically, there is no way to get rid of this useless thing, if i understand it correctly? and i have to accept, that even if disabled, it will still enable itself and update? therefore, next point ... if there is no account of that junk, does it still try to get every thing on the phone because of the permissions it has been granted, even if it is disabled?
therefore², if i disable an app, does that mean, its basically dead i.e. doesn't do anything compared to being enabled? or what does disable exactly mean?
[um, yes, i totally dislike fb, therefore ... you get my point]
1.1/ in one of the copied links above [or was it somewhere else] someone said something about an app that freezes other apps or something like that. might that have the desired effect for me?
1.2/ after putting in the sim and signing in to google ... what will that disabled fb do? or is it basically as said in the screenshot of that conversation ... you not liek, take other phone? [who are they? god? .... oh ... wait, actually ... given the ties to nsa ... nevermind]
2/ as this is my second android phone, so, if i add the google account on that phone, it copies every thing that's stored on the old one to the new one. but ... wot exactly happens with the apps it copies? are they still the same version as on the old phone or during the copying are they being updated? i'm asking, coz there are some i don't want to be updated, tune in for example [as i don't like the added social something and wotever came after my version]. or stays the app the same and i have to update it myself?
2.1/ regarding copying ... wot happens with my sms and call logs? and, can i decide what i want to be copied or is there no option of choice?
2.2/ same goes with the games i copy ... like the doctor who one from tiny rebel games. do i lose the current point where i am or not?
3/ is there any way to port or copy the s note from note 2 also over to note 4, or any chance to find the apk of it somewhere? it's just, that the note 4 version doesn't do idea note and sketch any longer, as those are the two templates i used most, as it is.
[eta] 3.1/ what about the dictionary and the handwriting? does it have to learn both from scratch or is it also going to be copied?
tnx a lot in forward for answering my questions,
meh
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Regardless of whichever phone you get. Just go ahead of root it and use Titanium Backup or another root App. I personally use Rom Toolbox because it's App Manager lists the apps by APK name. Use an app like what I suggested to remove all the garbage you don't want.
I personally chose the Note 4 over the G4.
yes, i could root, but then i'll lose any ounce of warranty. i don't know when t-mob changed that, but that's how it is now ... and given my track record there might be a day when i might need it.

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