"LG Aus irons bugs out of Optimus 2X
World's first dual-core phone on sale downunder.
LG Australia has finally broken its silence over ongoing problems with the Optimus 2X, which Guiness World Records acknowledges as the world’s first dual-core smart phone.
Users overseas and locally who had bought the product through eBay and other online sources reported a number of issues with the phone including random power-offs.
The Korean company subsequently released a patch, however, many users continued to report malfunctions.
LG Australia marketing director Brad Read confirmed that the problems related to the incompatibility of the phone's software – developed with Google’s Android 2.2 Froyo – and the handset's dual core processor.
For several weeks LG Australia’s Facebook page has been peppered with customer complaints, however, LG only acknowledged the problem on the social networking site yesterday.
One reader said he was selling his Optimus 2X for $1 on eBay as a paperweight.
Read, however, said that all of the problems had now been ironed out.
An updated software fix had been installed in phones shipped to Australia with no customers buying locally expected to have any problems.
The Optimus 2X goes on sale this week at Harvey Norman and was expected to soon become available through other outlets including mobile carriers.
Its price tag in Australia would be around $650.
Notwithstanding the software compatibility issues, the Optimus 2X was expected to generate much kudos for LG in the highly competitive mobile phone market, and woo users with its promise of dramatically faster management of mobile apps and downloading of web content."
Source: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/257825,lg-aus-irons-bugs-out-of-optimus-2x.aspx
So it seems to be a driver/kernel/software problem?
But when are we getting it??
ULJ said:
An updated software fix had been installed in phones shipped to Australia with no customers buying locally expected to have any problems.
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Could anyone living in Australia confirm this?
The explanation seems kinda vague to me, not to mention the timing. They say the fix it just in time for the Australian launch? Sounds like a publicity thing to me. People who use custom roms with gingerbread still have the reboot problems, right?
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The explanation seems kinda vague to me, not to mention the timing. They say the fix it just in time for the Australian launch? Sounds like a publicity thing to me. People who use custom roms with gingerbread still have the reboot problems, right?
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Yes is all 100% bull****
KeePeeR26 said:
Yes is all 100% bull****
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come on...custom rom with gingerbread its very diferrent than stock..dont forget that is CM7 nightly version and it has very different commits and drivers and blah blah..i also suffered by reboot issues in the very first start using nightly cm gingerbread but if you will try the last build you will see that random reboots it has been fixed..at least for me!i dont get any random reboots..!with stock rom also i didnt got even once a random reboot..!
cm7 it has nothing to do with stock froyo and even if when stock gingerbread will be released!
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
kencheung2008 said:
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
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amateurs will become proffesionals in the future..LG seems right now doing a step to proffesionality and a next step closer to future LOL
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
seems they will get more serious with the LG2X from now and on...
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amateurs will become proffesionals in the future..LG seems right now doing a step to proffesionality and a next step closer to future LOL
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
seems they will get more serious with the LG2X from now and on...
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=)) do you really believe all the **** u saying ?
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=)) do you really believe all the **** u saying ?
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absolutely not for LG..but for the cyanogenmod team i am very possitive..!!if i have to believe for LG's future then i must first see the stock gingerbread rom when they will release it..but i have a good feeling that it would be cool and optimised with our tegra2 better than froyo...!
but you must stop complaining...every device has its ****s..not only LG2X..!
tell me the ultimate device with 100% working condition without bugs and lags..!!
i think there is one..the NOKIA 3310
kencheung2008 said:
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
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man, then u probably could have bought your o2x half a year later. it is obvious, if one looks a the stock software of the o2x, that LG was trying to throw it on the market fast, to be the first dual core phone - to generate max profit.
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absolutely not for LG..but for the cyanogenmod team i am very possitive..!!if i have to believe for LG's future then i must first see the stock gingerbread rom when they will release it..but i have a good feeling that it would be cool and optimised with our tegra2 better than froyo...!
but you must stop complaining...every device has its ****s..not only LG2X..!
tell me the ultimate device with 100% working condition without bugs and lags..!!
i think there is one..the NOKIA 3310
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Damn I loved that phone
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at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
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Well, for now, they just *said* they have released a fix. And it's not the first time. So, until there's any proof of it, you're right, it is very hard to believe, even with a strong effort.
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Don't bother with Edangel, he rants about how great his O2x is in almost every topic. In his own little world.
theres a couple of guys who have bought the australian version over at the whirlpool forums http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598794&p=22#r434, i have asked them to post what version they are running, if these issues are fixed with the new update then i would expect these phones to be running it, but i think that is unlikley, would like to know what LG australia has done to iliminate these problem in the aus version yet the rest of the world has to wait, llike others here i'm very warey of LG's 'it's fixed it's fixed' statements
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Don't bother with Edangel, he rants about how great his O2x is in almost every topic. In his own little world.
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No mate you are wrong..its not great!!you think that all the other phones is better than this one!you are wrong..believe i ve tried sooo many devices and all had bugs and problems and i heard many complains for every each device..its a normal phenomenal even here for lg2x..even lg have bugs but its better than the others..!u must admit that every device is not like a super hero that can do everything!only in dream you can find that..!even a ferrari car have mechanical bugs lol...but what if you compare it with a honda or a wolkswagen??really?at least you pay less for fixing volkswagen than ferrari... ;-) that at least is what lg doing..its still a lada car man in a working great condition! Hahaha
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complains for every each device..its a normal phenomenal even here for lg2x..even lg have bugs but its better than the others..!u must admit that every device is not like a super hero that can do everything!only in dream you can find that..!even a ferrari car have mechanical bugs lol...but what if you compare it with a honda or a wolkswagen??really?at least you pay less for fixing volkswagen than ferrari... ;-) that at least is what lg doing..its still a lada car man in a working great condition! Hahaha
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I got all the ones without oil and damaged engines and flat tires...
Or in other words an used car for the price of a new one ;-)
Is this normal phenomenal for this branch or only for this particular car.
Well after owned many, I dare to say that all engines where new and not broken...Sometimes a flat tire
I don't trust that the mechanic will fix this engine
Well this ends the metaphor and leaves us waiting for that magical O2X fix :-(
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one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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Said news if that's the case makes me worried about the update :-(
Maybe he got old stock or imported stuff ?
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one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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Kernel version?
Related
According to the danish lg site, under FAQ of the LG Optimus 2x, they say that it'll be out in june/july 2011. So that seems to be as official they have stated a release date yet
If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
Yeah this sucks ballzzzz
Yeah it seems to be true, but have only been posted (as far as I have checked) on the Scandinavian sites for Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
I also made this post about it (maybe in the wrong section) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034970
EDIT: With a picture btw.
This means Cyanogenmod is again overtaking the manufacturer
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If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
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this is in line with LG italy "our scope is to provide the update in the first half of this year"
edit:
i've just finished a livechat with italian LG support.
they have no info on gingerbread update.
Im glad there are alot of custom roms. LG fails again. superhardware lack of support
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oh my goodness when is the cyanogen gingerbread update .........
hehe who cares? I only care about CM7
The problem is there are a lot of fixes needed even within the LG Android 2.2.2, it's not all about providing GB. The stock LG software is subpar in my oppinion and the problems signaled here and on other forums needs to be addressed by LG hopefully before June.
[email protected], CM7 would be nice but for O2X is in a far from usable state.
If LG launch the 2.3 with the know how demonstrated on 2.2... I don't see how this is a good news...
CM7 is all that mater
maybe LG is waiting for cm7, and get the idea from it
I absolutely agree with the statement "Who cares, I just want CM7".
Then again, LG having the low-level dev access that they have (drivers and whatnot), isn't much easier for them to dev the update than for us to dev CM7? Moreover, wouldn't it be much easier to port CM7 if we had an LG 2.3 ROM?
Cheers.
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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I kind of like LG for the speed, is much faster than the Galaxy S no matter what kernel you had on it, but O2X has other problems like the poor audio quality in calls and still the software doesn't feel like it's the final version, more like a test one. I agree we should expect more because the super fast hardware is there. It's a reality manufacturers don't care about that, they act like sell only the hardware and after that, they wash their hands. At least Samsung continue to support the Galaxy S which will have GB within weeks and in the meantime we have to wait until summer to get our port on O2X. I would never buy Apple, they sell just boring super expensive and locked products, that are still owned by them even after they sell them to you. If you want Android without headaches, the best bet is on the Nexus Phones. But, in the end, you can't have everything I guess...
Wow, that was long... what are we talking about here?
Sounds like the email I recived from LG Sweden this monday which said their devs had started to work on 2.3...... but what...started? Hasn't 2.3 been out for a while??
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
rori~ said:
Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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it will be supported and if not I still have my Nexus S hehe
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it will be supported ...
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yes...I would bet it will ..only thing that counts for me
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Try the Nexus S, being just a single core hummingbird processor, the thing flies
LG Optimus 2x have the potential to be faster then the Nexus S, all you need is just to wait until more developers use the phone
We regret having to announce that the software version expected by the end of the month - in order to solve the instability problems alleged by some customers - has been postponed for several weeks. Troubleshooting is taking longer than expected because of the systematic nature of the anomalies reported, involving only a part of owners of LG Dual Optimus. Many customers have found the solution to instability in fact known (and reset the product off the phone is charging) with the upgrade to version V10b, we recommend that in any case to make. We also recommend that you reset the product to the factory settings using the menu "Privacy" after the upgrade.
However, we are aware of the hardships that some of you are trying with our product. All resources are stretched to the limit of LG to release a best software as soon as possible, but at present we have to move the deadline for issuing the second half of June. We will do everything possible to bring forward this date. We apologize again with all of you who have given us confidence when you buy LG Dual Optimus.
More news on the software release will be released on the official media, or the Facebook fanpage "LG in the Box" and "Italy LG - Life's Good" and the official blog LGBlog.it.
Quite glad im one of the few that has not had any issues what so ever
Some information is better than no information
little news and hope more information soon
Wasn't the update supposed to be online in april? Oh well, at least now we know when we'll get it
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Update to gingerbread or what?
pre-gingerbread update postoponed and Gigerbread update postponed AGAIN!
LG say now "before end of summer" for gingerbread and end of june for bug-fixes!
First "immediately after the early sales", next "before the summer", next "before the end of june".. now "before end of summer!!"
Never again an LG product. Good products but support = 0.
Loooool. Crap LG!!!
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Im wondering if i can get my money back for being lied about future updates. I dont know much the problems fixing these problems but what i do know is that I bought this device because they announced immediatly updates after release to 2.3.
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Just spoke to LG Sweden and they still say May so I guess they have four days left untill I go ****ing ninja on their ass!
They first mentioned a FIX in March with the now classic "in two weeks" phrase.
My patience is over, done, finito, spent.
Now just waiting for stable cm7
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Now just waiting for stable cm7
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Agree. Lost faith in LG, and I have bought alot from them. Big "46 3m ago, stuff to kitchen and so on. Wont buy another thing from them again!
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so I guess they have four days left untill I go ****ing ninja on their ass!
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Now that's funny... Scandinavian humor
Sad to hear that but fortunately I can not complain about my LG so far. Everyhing works like a charm. Had 2 androids before and this one is way better, didn't find a single problem so far. I hope to get update soon anyway, because of all other users, who have problems with their phones...
Well, once my phone froze, twice it lost GSM signal till restart, but i guess thats not so bad in 2 week run.
I was really looking forward to official 2.3, but well.. Maybe its better to have postponed upgrades and receive stable system, then having early issued gingerbread no more stable then current CM7 ^^
I spoke with LG Norway yesterday and I said I was waiting for the May update. She stopped me and told me it was coming in May or June so I guess the sad news is true Will preorder the HTC Sensation today!
If You guys think than LG support is crap go and have a read what people say about Sony Ericsson support or Samsung, and belive me or not LG is not so bad because, even if they postpone the update they said nice and clear: they are up to date and they know the problem is still hire for some people after last update, they try fix this, personally i have no problem with my phone i have 3 rebots just after update to 10d but when i perform a hard reset all back to normal, and no problem so far.
Wwax said:
Just spoke to LG Sweden and they still say May so I guess they have four days left untill I go ****ing ninja on their ass!
They first mentioned a FIX in March with the now classic "in two weeks" phrase.
My patience is over, done, finito, spent.
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this is the last time i buy a LG phone , they always forget their customers
You say that but he O2X is being left behind and its one of the latest phones. All samsung phones have GB, experia arc and play have GB and most HTC have or will have shortly. Bit depressing for those like me that got the phone on day of release, let alone those (again including me) who have the BSOD and random reboots.
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If You guys think than LG support is crap go and have a read what people say about Sony Ericsson support or Samsung, and belive me or not LG is not so bad because, even if they postpone the update they said nice and clear: they are up to date and they know the problem is still hire for some people after last update, they try fix this, personally i have no problem with my phone i have 3 rebots just after update to 10d but when i perform a hard reset all back to normal, and no problem so far.
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Can someone please explain to me why it takes LG 6 (or more...) months to ready gingerbread for O2X?
Isn't android ready from google? All that LG has to do is to install the drivers for tegra and so on?
I know that all others as slow with updates from google, but WHY?
Fenrisulven_ said:
Can someone please explain to me why it takes LG 6 (or more...) months to ready gingerbread for O2X?
Isn't android ready from google? All that LG has to do is to install the drivers for tegra and so on?
I know that all others as slow with updates from google, but WHY?
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..probably it´s not high priority
Fenrisulven_ said:
Can someone please explain to me why it takes LG 6 (or more...) months to ready gingerbread for O2X?
Isn't android ready from google? All that LG has to do is to install the drivers for tegra and so on?
I know that all others as slow with updates from google, but WHY?
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I think they working on reboots fix...
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Maybe because they have a lot of work to do with porting an android version to our phone which is not in pre-alpha state...it's like a new experience for them..they should take their time if its worth it..
Do LG have to port android 2.3 to O2X?? Dont understand how android works at all. Isn't it finished by google and LG only have to install bloat and drivers????
please
If they wanted, it would run 2.3.4 already, that´s 100% sure.
If you think it is that easy why don't you do it by your own. There are mods out there with gingerbread and guess what they have bugs! Why is everybody so keen on gingerbread. My phone does an excellent job!
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If you think it is that easy why don't you do it by your own. There are mods out there with gingerbread and guess what they have bugs! Why is everybody so keen on gingerbread. My phone does an excellent job!
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You misunderstood a little..or you did not read..
Who said it´s easy?
LG is not a modding company
LG is not cm teamduche..doing things for free
LG is a huge-huge company, who can afford to PAY
And from a selling point: you want the latest android? - get the new flagship
Edit: of course, it´s just speculation
The new LG phone that leaked seems to have gingerbread on it: http://pocketnow.com/android/mystery-phone-roundup-motorola-htc-and-lg-photos
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Can someone please explain to me why it takes LG 6 (or more...) months to ready gingerbread for O2X?
because they can...
impossible is nothing.. lol
stupid amateurs LG..!
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If you think it is that easy why don't you do it by your own. There are mods out there with gingerbread and guess what they have bugs! Why is everybody so keen on gingerbread. My phone does an excellent job!
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No it doesnt do an excellent job - besides the obvious problems with bsod and rebooting which many are facing, it also has a number of other very annoying issues which everyone are effected by and which everyone hopes gets resolved with Gingerbread. Your phone are no different than any other O2x and your phone has exactly the same issues as everyone elses. Just because you may not be experienced enough to recognize these issues, doesnt mean your phone does an excellent job - it only means your standards are less than others.
If we ever do get a properly optimised Gingerbread fixing these issues, then you will perhaps have a better understanding of how this phone should be running, considering the hardware.
Man even if there would be no reason for 2. 3 i just wanna have it , only the custom ginger roms that were gonna have is more than enough as a update reason . Dude we are like frozen atm stuck at optimated stock roms and thers not much left to "optimale "
I too have no bsod or reboots not even once. The only problem i have is poor battery but this is also the case for all android phones. Other than that. Been very happy with my phone and I'm sure gingerbread will make me happier.
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The answer is easy... that's because they are LG !!
Try to sell as many as possible
So they spend most of time to promote their products, not spend time for software..
Don't you see? How long they spend for reboot fix...and yet not solve it
But why is it so hard to port android from google to the different phones?
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Too big HW diversity, crapy HW designs, bug-plagued drivers..
From my opinion, they need their own unique.
if the software is the same (standard from google)
the market share would be seized by Samsung, HTC, Sony.
However, LG still lack of professional to solve most of problem that the end users are suffering (like us, freezing/rebooting problem)
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But why is it so hard to port android from google to the different phones?
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'cause each company has to adapt their drivers for each phone. That's why it's hard.
And here is why it take so long : because they all feel forced to add a stupid brand layer (LG Home, LG apps... But that's true with most of the companies).
We want gingerbread ! Waitin so long for it ...
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1695 said:
'cause each company has to adapt their drivers for each phone. That's why it's hard.
And here is why it take so long : because they all feel forced to add a stupid brand layer (LG Home, LG apps... But that's true with most of the companies).
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Hmm... Can't understand that either... Drivers for tegra 2 is made by nvidia right? All LG has to do is add the driver to google's android? Other HW in the phone is not developed by LG either so they will have a driver from the manufactor wont they?
All i see that LG have to do is to develop the awful crapware they ship the phones with. That would perhaps take some time... but 6!! SIX!! months???
Lg promised they would have the 10s in the end of may.After the failed promise.lg promised again they will have it in mid of june!!So where is the update now?!! i hate LG so much:s
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Well LG is now saying anytime soon...
I guess thats means by the end of this year...
Want to get CM on my 2x, but can't
Never ever LG for me...
Notice how the optimus 3d has been delayed. My thinking is that was the priority. Once launched they'd fix our problem. Its been delayed by 2/3 weeks which means our update will probably be as well.
Hope I'm wrong mind you. Thankfully I'm not getting too many bsod‘s
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cokeman0 said:
Want to get CM on my 2x, but can't
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What's stopping you?
From LG Denmark: update delayed as it was not approved but still on track to a June release. Basically "any time soon".
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I agree...
But I don't think so... They can't follow simple instructions...
Yea. They did not implement the source code the right way, they got regarding Virtual Souround. Still waiting for that... (Got a friend working at the company that makes the software)
I Guess an LG error... :-(
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129486
I emailed LG customer service from 4 different countries. The two answers I got were:
1) Yes yes we are sorry for the delay and the update is coming this summer
2) No sorry there is no ETA on any update for this phone. Not even summer? No.
Their customer service have no idea on what's going on. It's ridiculous quite frankly.
Every single mobile company does this, not just LG.
Lets be thankful that a Gingerbread update is still in the works; they usually just abandon support when a new phone comes out.
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Meltus said:
Every single mobile company does this, not just LG.
Lets be thankful that a Gingerbread update is still in the works; they usually just abandon support when a new phone comes out.
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True but by the time they release GB, LG will have a better fone out and then will bypass any updates for old fones.
I never understand why mobile manufactures can make new fones faster than update there software?!. I suppose its about trying to sell more units?.
I think we wont see it this year and by the time we do get the update, we will have quad core processes and better os updates to Android than GB... Its not just LG, but ALL of them that are more interested in bringing out new hardware than to fully support what they have out already. One word... MONEY.
In away, thats why I like what is happening to gaming consoles. Its no longer about bringing a new one out every 2 years (like it used to be) and more into software and developing different ideas to bring new life into gaming.
Just wish hardware manufactures were pushing as hard for there software . Thats the real problem now.
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True but by the time they release GB, LG will have a better fone out and then will bypass any updates for old fones.
I never understand why mobile manufactures can make new fones faster than update there software?!. I suppose its about trying to sell more units?.
I think we wont see it this year and by the time we do get the update, we will have quad core processes and better os updates to Android than GB... Its not just LG, but ALL of them that are more interested in bringing out new hardware than to fully support what they have out already. One word... MONEY.
In away, thats why I like what is happening to gaming consoles. Its no longer about bringing a new one out every 2 years (like it used to be) and more into software and developing different ideas to bring new life into gaming.
Just wish hardware manufactures were pushing as hard for there software . Thats the real problem now.
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Apple is also doing a great job here.
My guess is that only a fraction of all android users cares about the OS kernels and other tweaks, as example. I was helping my Gf to get a new phone. She wanted a red one, with facebook on it. While i was dropping some easy specs like: multitouch, gb, memory, cpu etc. After a minute she replied,Thats sound cool, but DOES IT HAVE facebook... i think shes avarage phoneuser
So to be honest, why pay engineers to make software to people that doesnt care, when they can push phones to the market and actually make some profit.
I like LG.
they released this amazing piece of electronics and they opened up much more then many other brands (SonyEricsson, Samsung). So just becuause of that im running Gingerbread with oc/uv. So stop nagging, its a great phone and with cyanogen, arcee and many other developers, this has become a monster. We dont need LGs sw, android comunity makes it better.
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Meltus said:
Every single mobile company does this, not just LG.
Lets be thankful that a Gingerbread update is still in the works; they usually just abandon support when a new phone comes out.
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Well i never seen things like this with Sony Ericsson phones and reason for that is they do finish production on there phones hardware and software wise, so am realy disopointed with this lg product...
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HerrKuk said:
My guess is that only a fraction of all android users cares about the OS kernels and other tweaks, as example. I was helping my Gf to get a new phone. She wanted a red one, with facebook on it. While i was dropping some easy specs like: multitouch, gb, memory, cpu etc. After a minute she replied,Thats sound cool, but DOES IT HAVE facebook... i think shes avarage phoneuser
So to be honest, why pay engineers to make software to people that doesnt care, when they can push phones to the market and actually make some profit.
I like LG.
they released this amazing piece of electronics and they opened up much more then many other brands (SonyEricsson, Samsung). So just becuause of that im running Gingerbread with oc/uv. So stop nagging, its a great phone and with cyanogen, arcee and many other developers, this has become a monster. We dont need LGs sw, android comunity makes it better.
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So if your girlfriend - with her limited knowledge of technology - where to buy this phone she should just root it and throw a custom firmware on it? Do you think that is very likely and consumer like her would do that?
You DO NOT need LG's firmware but 90% of all consumers do. And there is no way you can justify LG's action by doing their work. The product as a whole is not working and just because you like to change parts of it does not excuse this fact.
Still a week and a half to go before June ends so hopefully there will not be another delay. I think last time they said it has been delayed by 3-4 weeks. I'll be happy with a bug free stock phone that just works regardless of whether it is FroYo or GB.
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So if your girlfriend - with her limited knowledge of technology - where to buy this phone she should just root it and throw a custom firmware on it? Do you think that is very likely and consumer like her would do that?
You DO NOT need LG's firmware but 90% of all consumers do. And there is no way you can justify LG's action by doing their work. The product as a whole is not working and just because you like to change parts of it does not excuse this fact.
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90% of all consumers are probably saticfied with their smartphone. The rest of us who arent can easily change it if we wants to (of course we want, becuse we can ). So all i hear is "Gimme some crap i dont want or need...
The point with my gf is, she doesnt care. No problem. She is happy. Good.
Even how good LGs firmware is or going to be, i dont want it, just because it stock..
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Yes maybe 90% of all consumers are satisfied with THEIR smartphone. Do we need to point out how low LG's market share is in this segment? Do you really think that 90% of Optimus 2x users are satisfied with their phone??
The Optimus 2x freezes without being able to recover without a battery pull. That means every user expecting to receive calls or uses their phone as an alarm will be not be satisfied.
My brother bought this phone (not with my recommondation) and he - like your girlfriend - just expect it to work without going into technical details. He has missed calls and alarms already. It goes without saying that he is NOT satisfied and neither would your GF have been if she had bought this phone. Try and ask if she would be okay with missed calls and alarms.
Are saying this phone is only for the elite of 10% or less who wants to waste their freetime on installing experimental software?
Trentors is absolutely right here, 90% of the LG O2x users are ordinary users who are not satisfied with the current LG stock rom - but they are ordinary users not interested in having to do LG's work and install custom roms with everything this includes.
They have a legitimite demand on LG to provide what LG sold them - a working phone. Not a phone that reboots randomly, freeze randomly, run out of memory randomly, lags in various different situations for various different reasons (all reasons caused by poor programming from LG) - they have a legitimite demand on LG to provide updates to fix this, they have a legitimate demand that it should have been there from the beginning. They are not demanding gingerbread per say because its gingerbread, they are just demanding a properly working stock rom - it just happens that they may look to a gingerbread update as an expected way to get a working stock rom.
Herkuk, you are pissing on all these ordinary users with your statements here - I and the rest of these 90% O2x users dont care how much you want to tinker with custom roms - thats your choise, not ours - we dont care about OC abilities or all the other aspects you feel so much for in custom roms - we just want LG to provide what we paied for - namely a stock rom working the way its supposed to work. Plain and simple.
I do not accept the trend where manufacturers are allowed to release beta products or developer products as final products and then ditch any support in order to release new beta products which also do not work right - just because a group of geeks are happy just to get some new hardware to tinker with.
When I buy any other product I expect it to work - I expect my new car to drive without the wheels falling off or the brakes not working - I expect my new flatscreen TV to be able show a picture everytime I turn it on, not only every other time, and I dont expect it to randomly shutdown or get black screen whenever Im trying to watch a movie.
I dont care if you like LG or not - I dont care for fanboyisme - I demand the same from LG as I demand from any other manufacturer that want to sell me there products. Its not my job (even If I have the abilities) to do LG's work and fix their product.
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90% of all consumers are probably saticfied with their smartphone. The rest of us who arent can easily change it if we wants to (of course we want, becuse we can ). So all i hear is "Gimme some crap i dont want or need...
The point with my gf is, she doesnt care. No problem. She is happy. Good.
Even how good LGs firmware is or going to be, i dont want it, just because it stock..
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Yeah. I bet your girlfriend would love my LGP990. Whenever I don't have any reception my phone needs a reboot to be able to recieve calls, or send\recieve text messages.
I actually went back to the store and got a replacement with the exact same problem. Also with different SIM.
No new kernels , rom`s , mod`s , nightles .... so bored ....
Every day open xda and I hope to see something new .... but ....
Other forums ( nexus s , hd2 , HD etc etc ) burn like fire of new posts ....
Same here, it looks like we did make big mistake when we bought LG!
srry 4 bad eng
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Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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Unfortunately yes :-(
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Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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And frankly I dont get why nvidia is doing this.
I dont think that any of us will ever buy an Nvidia chipset mobile device ever again.
Dont they see that?
How arrogant are they?
Kal-el seems to be amazing in terms of performance and efficiency.. but who cares...
I'd rather get a device which is not as good, knowing that for the next 1-2 years i'll have custom roms with updated OS.
This seems interesting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19861004&postcount=57
Seriously??? I think both got fault but I think LG's fault is more serious because the latest Kernal has already been released by Nvidia but don't know why LG is not releasing it with the GB they release with 2x...
Seriously, you bought the first dual core phone in the world with a chipset made by a company who's never been in the phone business before (nvidia) made by a company who's never made high end android phones before (lg) and you expected everything to work flawlessly? Have some patience, lg has announced that they will release ics and nvidia has done a lot more already than I had expected (they are actually communicating with arcee about releasing stuff they don't have to release.
Well it looks like they're finally getting their act in gear, so all is not yet lost.
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Well it looks like they're finally getting their act in gear, so all is not yet lost.
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Agreed. I am slightly hopeful about this turning into a good phone . I just think that both nvidia and lg have fewer android-developers than what would have been optimal. This combined with the fact that they needed to release the device fast has lead to some frustration.
I love the phone.... it has enough power, a beautiful IPS screen and is just the right size for me. It now has Gingerbread and ICS is promised. What's not to like? My missus has the iphone 4s and it was twice the cost I paid for my LG. I wouldn't swap mine for an iphone or any other £500 mobile just yet as it does all that's required and looks to have a rosy future with ICS.
Pete.
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Seriously, you bought the first dual core phone in the world with a chipset made by a company who's never been in the phone business before (nvidia) made by a company who's never made high end android phones before (lg) and you expected everything to work flawlessly? Have some patience, lg has announced that they will release ics and nvidia has done a lot more already than I had expected (they are actually communicating with arcee about releasing stuff they don't have to release.
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Agreed
Take a look at SonyEricsson when they first relased Xperia.. First update from Donut to Eclair, it was even worse then LG. And dont forget how they locked Xperia bootloaders, damn people hated that company But now, a year later they actually help you to unlock bootloaders, are pretty quick with updates. And they even made dualtouch to X10, just because people demanded it.
So yes, companys can make 180° turns
So dont throw away your awesome piece of electronic, you are going to regret it.
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i saw a g2x forum, and in the ICS project thread Azuscee wrote that CM team has fully working ICS for g2x(which is 2x actually). So i think they have fully working test build for 2x also...so don't worry, we will have CM9 officially.
It's not fully working, the camera is a no-go.
OMG..
Just saw the news from nvidia...
The trouble they would go, not to release the source code, is amazing..
I wonder why
So much frustration and problems with all this .... when I had the N95 8GB, `problem` was only about Garmin and some other small non-essential apps ...
everything else is working well and I had no need to change anything .....
ps,,,, My wife will go crazy because I spend more time with phone
Zorica: Halid , can you please bring me a jacket ?
Halid: Ok Zorica , just to do nandroid restore and flash other kernel ... I fell in fck bootloop
Zorica: Arrrrgggrr .......
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It's not fully working, the camera is a no-go.
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Is anything on the O2X working??
I think that everything bar the camera is working.
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I think that everything bar the camera is working.
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So everything is working, except camera, including all features? Even hardware acceleration?
I think so.