[Q] A2DP Bluetooth bitpool quality - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Guys,
after weeks of trying and searching, i'm really considering to sell my Galaxy. But before i do so, i want to ask once more on this way, if anyone knows or at least got a clue about how to fix the bitpool/bitrate quality for bluetooth stereo streaming. It's important to me as i use my phone for music a lot.
The problem is known for some people, but not a lot coder/tweaker tried their luck on this yet.
The only way I know would be to flash cyanogen. I even tried it, but cyanogen is not for everyday use on the galaxy yet imo. It still has a lot more other bugs, and the battery life is much worse compared to my stock 2.3.3 rom.
Perfect solution for me would be a rom based on the stock gingerbread, with just the bitpool issue fixed. I'd even donate anyone who could fix that.
So if someone knows more about it or would give it a go and tries to fix it... I'd really appreciate that as apart of this issue i really like my Galaxy S

Have you tried gb stock ? I am on jvh and think Bluetooth streaming has improved. Try it and see if you hear the same way?
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Hey fylim, thanks for your reply
Are you sure about that? Currently i'm on stock gb. I think JVB... is JVH newer?
EDIT: I've checked it i'm on JVB and modem is JVK. But i haven't read about any improvement on JVH yet... well i may try JVH then... I'd do everything to get it fixed :/

Ok, ive tried JVH... still the same aweful quality Ok, seems like i'll get a WIN7 phone soon then :/

You've got to be kidding me. Just use fre*kin wired headphones. The SGS +voodoo is like one of the best DAPs in the world and you're going to sell it because you want more quality with your bluetooth headset. Let me tell you something bluetooth and sound quality shouldn't be used in one sentence.

There is a reason i bought a bluetooth stereo headset. And just a little headup: You may have terrabytes of space on your SGS to save FLAC's or Wave files, but i bet you're using compressed music as well... So you shouldn't even start to think about "quality" even with wired headphones. So its not a qualified comment at all...
Also, like i stated before, i tried cyanogen and the quality with the bluetooth headset is the same as with wired ones. Also on my mates W7 phone its decent (after a 1 minute tweak)...

worly said:
There is a reason i bought a bluetooth stereo headset. And just a little headup: You may have terrabytes of space on your SGS to save FLAC's or Wave files, but i bet you're using compressed music as well... So you shouldn't even start to think about "quality" even with wired headphones. So its not a qualified comment at all...
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Dude, sorry to spam in your thread but I got bothered by that "not a qualified comment". First ,as I said the SGS with voodoo just blows out of the water almost all DAPs (and I mean dedicated music players). Second, yeah I have a 32GB micro sdhd card which I use with my SGS and I almost exclusively listen my music in flac or in mp3 which I have personally ripped. And I'm an audiophile with a vast collection of headphones (even bluetooth ones) and I know what I'm saying - even cheap wired headphones with voodoo sound way better than any bluetooth ones. It's your choice, I understand that wireless is more comfortable but trading an awesome phone with awesome audio quality for a Windows phone which doesn't even have Angry birds for it, let alone proper multitasking and stuff is a bad deal

There isn't much room to talk about quality even if we have 320's mp3's... Trust me, i'm really strict and sensible with such sounds issues, thats why it bothers me so much with the small bitrate on stock gingerbread. It sounds like 96 kbps compressed streaming. With cyanogen it seems to stream in the highest possible bitrate which is about 328 kbp's as far as i know (at least thats how fast it streams to the bluetooth devie on my pc). However, whats the difference between a 320 being played without bluetooth and with bluetooth? I can understand your argument if its a non compressed file format. But even Voodoo doesnt do magic with it. I got quite a bunch of cheap and expensive earplugs which i tested with, and without the bluetooth device. Trust me, you wont hear any differnce (on cyanogen at least)...
But anyway, i just tried the newest cyanogen build and some stuff got improved especially battery seems to be somewhat better... so maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel and i'll wait how cyan gets improved. I'll stick with my SGS then, as i know its sound is really good otherwise and also the rest

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Bluetooth headset reception quality

Hello guys.
I have a Plantronics Voyager 815 mono headset, which is supposed to be a rather good one. The reception quality is great, however people on the other end either don't hear me very well, or they're telling me it's as if I would talk from inside a barrel.
I usually hold the phone in my hand, so it's barely a meter or so away from the headset. When I just use the phone (no bluetooth), the sound is crystal clear both for me and the other side.
I was wondering what your experience might be with bluetooth headsets and if you could perhaps recommend one that would also have a good outgoing sound.
Thank you.
Hi pedmond, I use a motorola S9 mainly for music, no one ever phones me unless I'm at work or my Mum, But I love it, the sound and reception are great. I did have a problem where the sound kept dropping out for a few seconds then coming back but it seems sorted since my latest flash (Dutty's 1.6 awesome). On the S9 the mic is built into the tiny in-earphone in a single unit, background noise is minimal. One thing I did was play with the settings in Schaps adv. config. until I was totally happy, I know you must have done this, and searched everywhere and also posted in accessories too! Maybe you have fluff in the mic!
Thank you for the input, uniqueboy.
I played indeed with Schaps settings, but unless I'm mistaken they are for stereo headsets - mine is mono. Your S9 would be too big for that.
I'm mainly using it at work for business conversations; I also need it to be small enough to keep in my pocket.
The headset I have has an extending boom, which makes the microphone hole pretty much self cleaning, so I would guess there is no fluff (at least I can't see none).
It's a bit annoying I can't use my set in optimal conditions. I'm willing to buy a new one, I just don't want to get into a trial and error loop - this can get expensive pretty fast.
I also don't trust a lot what I read on the net - this headset comes highly recommended, but I find this not to be true.
I would thus rather learn from other people's experience.
pedmond said:
Thank you for the input, uniqueboy.
I played indeed with Schaps settings, but unless I'm mistaken they are for stereo headsets - mine is mono. Your S9 would be too big for that.
I'm mainly using it at work for business conversations; I also need it to be small enough to keep in my pocket.
The headset I have has an extending boom, which makes the microphone hole pretty much self cleaning, so I would guess there is no fluff (at least I can't see none).
It's a bit annoying I can't use my set in optimal conditions. I'm willing to buy a new one, I just don't want to get into a trial and error loop - this can get expensive pretty fast.
I also don't trust a lot what I read on the net - this headset comes highly recommended, but I find this not to be true.
I would thus rather learn from other people's experience.
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hi bro,
I am using Jabra 5010 mono headset as well as I-Tech Blueband Pro stereo headset. Both, i do not have any problem with bluetooth and sound/voice quality.
not to jump into conclusion that your set might be faulty ... Have you done any tweaks to increase/decrease volume? if so, try to reset to default. or try another rom, if using a official rom or cook rom gives the same issue, then most likely it will be your headset thats causing the issue.
ruffruff said:
hi bro,
I am using Jabra 5010 mono headset as well as I-Tech Blueband Pro stereo headset. Both, i do not have any problem with bluetooth and sound/voice quality.
not to jump into conclusion that your set might be faulty ... Have you done any tweaks to increase/decrease volume? if so, try to reset to default. or try another rom, if using a official rom or cook rom gives the same issue, then most likely it will be your headset thats causing the issue.
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OK, this may be a silly question: can I increase the OUTGOING volume on a bluetooth headset? (mono)
Just to mark this problem solved: turned out my headset was defective. I've had it replaced today and finally everybody can hear me just fine
Thank you for your help.

Audio Quality on G1/Dream

Greetings:
Over the years I've owned many HTC devices and have always used them as a media player as its main secondary function, usually with CorePlayer as my main software. The one thing I noticed was that when it came to playback, all of my non-Dream phones were relatively quiet (very low noise/artifacts) when it came to music playback.
Ever since I got the G1 (running stock, no mods) I've noticed that there's a huge difference in the audio section-when using the wired adapter, I get lots of noise/artifacts (very noticeable with low playback volume) and I get an incredible amount of GSM chatter (which was rare in my other devices.)
Anyone else noticed this? Any fixes/workarounds? (I'm waiting for the Android port of CorePlayer, maybe that might fix some of the quality issues>)
Audio quality is something that the G1 lacks in my opinion right out of the box, compared to other mobile phones. If you have a rooted mobile though, I would have a look at the Meltus Audio mod (had a look at my signature).
The new V6 version of the audio mod increases audio, clarity and adds a bit of bass
wazmo said:
Greetings:
Over the years I've owned many HTC devices and have always used them as a media player as its main secondary function, usually with CorePlayer as my main software. The one thing I noticed was that when it came to playback, all of my non-Dream phones were relatively quiet (very low noise/artifacts) when it came to music playback.
Ever since I got the G1 (running stock, no mods) I've noticed that there's a huge difference in the audio section-when using the wired adapter, I get lots of noise/artifacts (very noticeable with low playback volume) and I get an incredible amount of GSM chatter (which was rare in my other devices.)
Anyone else noticed this? Any fixes/workarounds? (I'm waiting for the Android port of CorePlayer, maybe that might fix some of the quality issues>)
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I've noticed it a lot as well. Unfortunately, this has been both out of the box (stock) and rooted with any firmware whatsoever. It's a lot more obvious in my Bose earbuds, since they're noise-canceling, but it's unavoidable all the same.
I haven't tried Meltus's full app yet, just the lite version on the website, but as we speak, I'm on the Market buying it :]. But I've heard it's nothing but amazing, so I would give that a shot too.
Along the same lines, when ripping CDs or converting audio files, what would the ideal bitrate be for use with stock headphones?
The reason I ask is I'm under the impression that if we encode at too high of a bitrate, it will do nothing to increase the sound quality but will suck up more of our limited phone memory (not sdcard space, but useable memory for running apps). Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
blueheeler said:
Along the same lines, when ripping CDs or converting audio files, what would the ideal bitrate be for use with stock headphones?
The reason I ask is I'm under the impression that if we encode at too high of a bitrate, it will do nothing to increase the sound quality but will suck up more of our limited phone memory (not sdcard space, but useable memory for running apps). Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
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I use AAC-HE exclusively on phones-I find that using a 56 kbps conversion does a decent job regardless of the headset.
I have no knowledge of which encoding methods causes the greatest impact to running memory usage.

Does bluetooth normally suck this much on the Hero?

So I bought a set of bluetooth headphones on Amazon.com recently, and they are working really badly! The audio constantly stutters on CM 6.0, and still stutters quite a bit on Darchrom 2.8. It also has pretty pathetic range, if I put my phone in my pocket or even hold it in my hand below my belt it just cuts out completely!
Is this normal for the Hero or do these headphones just really suck?
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So I bought a set of bluetooth headphones on Amazon.com recently, and they are working really badly! The audio constantly stutters on CM 6.0, and still stutters quite a bit on Darchrom 2.8. It also has pretty pathetic range, if I put my phone in my pocket or even hold it in my hand below my belt it just cuts out completely!
Is this normal for the Hero or do these headphones just really suck?
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I'd say it was your head set. I use my phone to play bluetooth over my car stereo and it's great. I've had it connect to my phone which was inside my apartment and play without issue.
Thanks for the reply! Which ROM do you use, stock or a custom one? I tried it with the Cyanogen Mod RC1 and also Darchrom 1.8, but I haven't tried the stock sprint rom yet.
I'm running the CM 6.0 RC1 basically. I've had some Sense ROMs on it as well and they've worked well enough. Didn't really run stock build long so can't really say much for how well that works.
I also have bluetooth problems, and it is not my headset. The headset pairs, and has great range with my motorola Q. When I pair it with my Hero, it has a 2 foot line of site range, if I hold it in my other hand, it cuts out.
I have a hero running stock 2.1, rooted. My carrier is MTS in Manitoba.
I don't know of any ROMs that would work with my carrier, so I am hesitant to try any other.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Try disabling stagefright in the build.prop file. It fixes audio issues with Pandora on CM6.
I have a cheap insignia headset, and it works for my needs...but, I do have the same problem with the phone in my pocket. I sometimes get the stuttering thing, but I think that it happens for me during syncs and other data stuff happening. Usually tho, I don't have this problem. I'm on froyo 817 build
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Jedis said:
Try disabling stagefright in the build.prop file. It fixes audio issues with Pandora on CM6.
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I just tried this, and it made no difference. Thanks for the tip though. I hope to get my hands on another hero, just so I can check if my hardware is defective.
I have the Motorokr S9-HD headset. I get crappy signal or connection on my Hero running cm6 RC1. I've also noticed this on other roms. You pretty much need a arm band to get better signal. I've found that by placing the phone in your pocket it cuts in and out. I think it sucks but the only cure I've noticed so far is an arm band. Hope this helps, peace, Chags
It's so bad, I can't even have the phone on the straps of my backpack 2 feet away. The signal cuts off if you move the wrong way.
bluetooth issues
Hey guys,
I had a motorokr as well, and it blew chunks for range. I also have a Motorola HT-820 bluetooth headset, and it does great with the hero on the same ROMs. This isn't an issue with the Hero software -- I talked to Motorola about it, and they said the headset was defective. I sent it in for replacement and I'll let you guys know how it goes.

[Q] SGS (GT-i9000) as external soundcard ?

I bought a pair of sennheiser hd558 yesterday (for home use on my laptop) and i am surprised how they sound hooked up on my SGS (with voodoo to get everything out of the wolfson chip), the only problem is that my laptop has a onboard sound chip (Realtek ALC883) wich gives a crappy output.
As i am a student on a kind of tight budget i was having some "brainfarts" about making the SGS think it is a soundcard while connected to the laptop. That way i can play everything on the laptop as usuall and the output goes thru the SGS.
Is this possible ? If it is, is there someone willing to help me do it ? Because there is very little information available about this (only about wireless and i dont want to send a laggy stream to my phone with the possibility of losing quality).
I have already looked at VLC/UPnP options but the only thing available seems to be a bunch of players i can install on my SGS wich stream (thus thru wifi wich i DONT want) the files off my laptop.
Basically, i want my SGS to act as a fully operational usb soundcard for my laptop when i tell it to do so.
PS: I use foobar2000 as music player, setting this up with ASIO4ALL would solve the problem of having a transmitter, the problem still left is the phone accepting it.
Wow now aren't you expecting too much out of your SGS!
Anyways I don't even know if something like this is even possible... but it would be quite interesting if it could, but I highly doubt it!

Terrible w/ My BT Headset Sony E. MW600

Well, I bought a MW600 BT headset last year for my Vivaz (SE).
(No quality I have wanted because of A2DP is not well developed for music)
After a half of year, I get my Galaxy Tab P1000 (at that moment it was official 2.2.1 )and tried to play music w/ it. But in result, a really really bad quality I have been gotten.
Well, then, I left it alone for a long while until the official 2.3.3 was released but however the result was still bad.
Unfortunately, the result in every custom rom / kernel is still getting wrong w/ it.
So far, I put it under my bed and leave alone forever.
Hi
i use the same BT Headset with the galaxytab and winmo65 for some months now. I have good sound quality with both devices. Some gtab roms have better a2dp, some older gave me disconnects every few seconds.
But the latest boca and cm9 roms works fine for me.
cinq
xdacinq said:
Hi
i use the same BT Headset with the galaxytab and winmo65 for some months now. I have good sound quality with both devices. Some gtab roms have better a2dp, some older gave me disconnects every few seconds.
But the latest boca and cm9 roms works fine for me.
cinq
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In fact I have forgone listening via bluetooth.
It is really poor when you comparing it w/ directly cable connect via 3.5mm socket (w/ Voodoo or other sth likely setter)
The problem is I always surfer the lagging when I am telephoning.
I don't know why it happens but this issue appeared on my fd phones as well.
But nothing happened on Vivaz. This puzzled me for a long while but not now.
Normally, I just wanna use it as a mic and plug my rubbish earphone for phone call.
Please forgive my poor English as I am not a native speaker.
Right before placing an order for this mw600,thinking to replace my sein for cycling and I like this mw600 to handle 2device, music also nice reduction.
So, and I wonder is there some issue using this with:
-gt-i9100/2.3.3
-gt-p1000/4.0.4
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edwardplus said:
Well, I bought a MW600 BT headset last year for my Vivaz (SE).
(No quality I have wanted because of A2DP is not well developed for music)
After a half of year, I get my Galaxy Tab P1000 (at that moment it was official 2.2.1 )and tried to play music w/ it. But in result, a really really bad quality I have been gotten.
Well, then, I left it alone for a long while until the official 2.3.3 was released but however the result was still bad.
Unfortunately, the result in every custom rom / kernel is still getting wrong w/ it.
So far, I put it under my bed and leave alone forever.
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Already bought mine, hopefully it will running proper with both my galaxy
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How this mw600 combo set up with ibeats? Anyone tried?
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