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hi guys, i am very much happy to see that there is so much of activity going on to strip down tattoo & install whatever ROM we want... but its also sad that its not successful....
to me, its very cluttered in this forum, there are so many threads about getting an entrance to tattoo from various sides so that we can cook its ROM.
just tell us how far you developers are from obtaining success for your hardwork ???? we all cant wait to install 2.1 on our cute little tatoo....
guys, give us the good news ASAP..... please....
getting the 2.1 on ur tattoo is no big deal, HTC most probably will release it sooner or later. the real challenge here is gaining root access to the tattoo in order to install some really useful applications. so far all paths that devs have tried have met roadblocks, hopefully some day an S-Off SPL will be made or acquired from somewhere which should help.
also i found this http://www.androlib.com/android.application.uk-co-neilandtheresa-instantroot2-qAmj.aspx i don't know how it works, nor do i know if it will work on the tattoo if some devs here could look into it and explain how it works and whether it will on the tattoo(considering that they haven't found a loophole in the current kernel yet) i guess it would be great.
is it so difficult to know how tattoo works & what all its loop holes are even after releasing source code ??? i must really appreciate the hard work of those guys who did bring out this tattoo... hats of to you guys... you have really made this little wizard a hard to crack one.... we all must appreciate...
does anyone here knows how to install 2.1 on my tattoo ??? i am more than happy if i know the steps to update to 2.1. i dont want to root this tattoo if it seems so difficult to do it... why crack our head for almost impossible thing ???
anyway, may be cyanogen has not developed any interest in developing custom ROMs for tatto... it looks strange to me either...
may be some high end hacker / tech freak who knows in & out of linux must lead us to the victory path. i dont know when that day comes.... waiting for that to happen ASAP with fingers crossed.....
manuvaidya said:
is it so difficult to know how tattoo works & what all its loop holes are even after releasing source code ???
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Simply yes. Having the sourcecode doesn't automaticaly mean it is easier to crack a system (that would be bad for Linux as a server operating system since it is opensource...)
manuvaidya said:
does anyone here knows how to install 2.1 on my tattoo ??? i am more than happy if i know the steps to update to 2.1. i dont want to root this tattoo if it seems so difficult to do it... why crack our head for almost impossible thing ???
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It actually looks like the tattoo has got a very clever security system that makes it impossible to flash roms on it that aren't officially signed by HTC. May be we will never be able to crack this wall. Beeing able to root the Tattoo might be the only option to flash custom roms on the tattoo in the future.
manuvaidya said:
anyway, may be cyanogen has not developed any interest in developing custom ROMs for tatto... it looks strange to me either...
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There is a big interest and I hope to see cyanogen on tattoo one day, but as you already read it looks like custom flashing depends on rooting. Might be that we will see 2.1 on tattoo in 2 weeks or never. An unsatisfying situation, I know!
manuvaidya said:
may be some high end hacker / tech freak who knows in & out of linux must lead us to the victory path. i dont know when that day comes.... waiting for that to happen ASAP with fingers crossed.....
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Some of them are even here but the combination of much work to be done and less time means all of you have to wait. And Linux was never ment to be a crackable system... ;-)
But crossing fingers is always a good idea.
Bastian
thanks for ur answers.... we are all in the same boat i guess....
but i got one question for you, how could the google nexus be rooted before its official launch ??? it is also android phone which means linux back bone suport it has got.... so we all know that tattoo got released much before the nexus. by rules, nexus should have tough security system & should have shown better resistance towards hacking, but its not the case anymore....
but why tattoo only is like that ... means so adamant to reverse engineering ??? i simply hate that... being free for all & open source, why in the hell you restrict the hardware/software options & make it difficult for all ?? anyway, we will pay for the applications which we like to use & moreover apss are not that expensive??? even then why do you do so ???
i am in the mood of selling my tattoo & getting either hero or nexus.... this is so rediculous.... definitely, may be because its cheap people are not putting enough hard work or not at all showing any interest in making this little nerd dance to our tunes.... this is so pathetic.... i hate this device..... i am selling it ASAP....
Heya.
The Nexus is open because Google decided so. It wasn't "hacked". All you have to do is use fastboot to unlock the device and then you can flash whatever you wish to it. The Tattoo doesn't have this option, like many devices before and after it, so we need to crack it, to root it and then we'll be able to flash whatever we wish to it. I'm 100% sure that the Tattoo will be rooted, maybe not today or tomorrow (and again, who knows) ?
I suggest you do what I did: enumerate why you need root or custom roms on this device. Is it really that important ? How long are you ready to wait for them ? If you need root and custom roms right now then my advice would be to sell your Tattoo and get a Nexus. If you can wait a little longer then let's see what's around the corner
Me, personally, I love the design of the Tattoo. Preety small and powerfull. My better half as a Hero but I still prefer the Tattoo. If I can get a custom rom on it, that would be interesting. If I can get root so I can mess with it, that would be very cool. If I can help other people to get root on it, that would make my day.
Regards,
mf3
I have only recently got my Tattoo and at the moment I am happy with it being debranded from Orange. I've not really played with it at all yet, so need to see what apps I need to put on it. Cooked roms would obviously be a bonus but happy so far.
People are working around the clock on rooting the HTC Tattoo. But, these hackers also have a real life too. Therefore, they can't spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year hacking full-time, they would need to eat, sleep, walk, run, swim and the like.
People need to understand this. No matter how hard it is, we'll succeed.
Personally, I love the HTC Tattoo. It's the best phone I ever had. Seeing a CyanogenMod port for the Tattoo once rooted would be epic. I'll be cooking ROMs when mine's rooted.
We need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. Sit back from the computer. Read our hacking stories in other threads. Absorb the knowledge others are sharing. Test out our exploits. Give your two cents on the handset. Give feedback. Enjoy the community.
Without people like the ones that are now in the Tattoo scene, the Tattoo would be dead in the water. Unloved and unwanted. IMO, I brought this because I thought the Dream was bulky and the Magic was limited. I was thinking of getting a Hero, but now, Tattoo is where I'll stay.
I hope what I said will encourage others to wait before they ask "IS IT OVER?". It's not, unless we raise the white flag.
Yea, I quote everything. There are lot of people working for us... testing and testing spending time and money (some people bought the tattoo just to root it) just to give us the chance to see something new on our cute little but powerfull device.
They are diehard and they don't give up if they couldnt root the tattoo... they continue to work on it...
so.... I think the best way is to give em help and another important thing is to say....
...oh thank you guys.... your work is really appreciated...
I think its the best way to encourage them !
ok, i will wait.... sorry if i have hurted anyone here... i saw several threads with different loop holes getting discovered every other day... hence i asked so.
please dont mis-understand me... i am also here to help you guys..... let me know what help i can offer here to help this little bomb to root....
i would be more than happy the day when it gets rooted just like many others.... hail tattoo.... hail the people who are working on it.... keep up the good work bros.... good luck..
I can't seem to find a good post or thread about this so I'll be the one to ask the dumbest question.
Can a GSM rom be flashed to a CDMA tab? Other than networking issue with the modem, will phone actually boot and be usable on wifi? I'm assuming it most likely will either not work at all or just FC constantly but wanted to ask first.
MODS please delete after a few answers. I don't want to waste thread space...
Anybody has flashed this before ? And i don't know can Verizon tab be able to flash rom for Sprint Tab ?
Waiting for anwser too .
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I can't seem to find a good post or thread about this so I'll be the one to ask the dumbest question.
Can a GSM rom be flashed to a CDMA tab? Other than networking issue with the modem, will phone actually boot and be usable on wifi? I'm assuming it most likely will either not work at all or just FC constantly but wanted to ask first.
MODS please delete after a few answers. I don't want to waste thread space...
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One of the other members did and it worked, I am not sure what was FC'ing but he was using it that way. A word of WARNING, if you accidentally flash the modem with the GSM one, its dead forever! You cannot restore it!!
But yeah it should boot, and be able to use WiFi.
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Anybody has flashed this before ? And i don't know can Verizon tab be able to flash rom for Sprint Tab ?
Waiting for anwser too .
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Verizon and Sprint use the same radio's so this should not be an issue
OK second question. Where on earth can I find the VZW firmware files to use with Odin or Heimdall? I flashed the Klean ROM and like it but then I realized I was having problems finding the stock pit and pda files to revert back to stock if needed!
I would love if I could use GSM ROM's. I bought a Verizon TAB (mistake now that I realized this) and just use it for WIFI only so network access is not an issue for me.
Is that file you need ?
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Is that file you need ?
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Downloading now but I'm pretty sure thats it! You are awesome. And I'm a lazy searcher.
try this... its the vzw recovery package i use... unrar and bring it into hiemdall... try using the voodoo overclocked kernal with it... great improvements, blazing fast, and the sound is unmatched... im not sure why, and i could very well be doing it wrong... but when i flash the zImage for the kernal, i always have to flash that zImage into the recovery as well... like i said idk why but 90% of the time my flash will fail unless i do that... so if you have any problems try it... hope this helps!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TC4G5IYC
probably the same files... beat me to it haha
I'd actually really like to know this as well... I've got a VZW tab I was given from a friend who updated to a Xoom... I'm only ever gonna use it wifi, and am a bit disappointed in the lack of roms for CDMA tabs... if a GSM Rom would work, and let me use wifi, that would be great for folks like me.
How can I avoid to flash the modem with the GSM one ? I usally use heimdall-frontend.exe to flash !
I could be wrong, but if you go through frontend dont you have to manually palce the moden file into the slot for modem? couldnt you just flash everything but modem? or is it in the kernal as well??
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arariel said:
I'd actually really like to know this as well... I've got a VZW tab I was given from a friend who updated to a Xoom... I'm only ever gonna use it wifi, and am a bit disappointed in the lack of roms for CDMA tabs... if a GSM Rom would work, and let me use wifi, that would be great for folks like me.
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You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Wow, ok... I just got the damn thing, let me, you know, learn how to code and program etc... got a while?
Yeah, I got a free tab, and I know next to nothing about it, so I'm trying to find out some information. I dunno that I would call expressing mild disappointment really classifies as "*****ing" but, hey, thanks for YOUR contribution to the thread too, guy. Super helpful. I understand the VZW tab isn't nearly as popular, and that means less people working on it, or maybe there are technical difficulties or something. I have no idea. I just know there is less information, etc. out there about it, and that's disappointing. Nowhere did I say anything like "people here suck for not supporting my device!" The ROM makers here are a talented bunch, that much is obvious... I really like what they're doing, and I'm guessing so does the OP. That's why we're asking about GSM roms... we obviously liked something someone made, and wish we could use it on our device. We're trying to find information, and you come and attack someone with the equivalent of an ER nurse getting mad at a Vet for coming in with a question about their daughter, and demanding that they help treat her themselves.
If I had ANYTHING even CLOSE to as helpful as some of the people here to contribute right now, I would... but I don't... I'm just trying to learn about this device. At my level of knowledge right now, I don't HAVE anything to give. So very sorry if that somehow offends you personally.
That was ugly!
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You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Hmm. I wonder what my PM reply from you will have to say in it lol. Anyhow, is a soft brick inevitable? Are there options I can avoid such as obviously not flashing the modem? Or param.lfs? To prevent a soft brick. One person claims it worked on a certain ROM from them. I know I can find out the hard way myself but if I can benefit from someone else's experience I'd like to see if I can do that first.
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Hmm. I wonder what my PM reply from you will have to say in it lol. Anyhow, is a soft brick inevitable? Are there options I can avoid such as obviously not flashing the modem? Or param.lfs? To prevent a soft brick. One person claims it worked on a certain ROM from them. I know I can find out the hard way myself but if I can benefit from someone else's experience I'd like to see if I can do that first.
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Think about it guys you've got devs, and then you have those of us who are just using what the devs design, be it lack of knowledge or lack of effort, either way if you have a free tab, make a backup, make a couple backups, and try it, or maybe get with a dev working on your tab to add the features of the gsm tab to our vzw tab. help them test it, It makes sense that devs get pissed when someone says i got a free tab, do some research, make some effort to further the development for a device in which the devs purchase in most cases with they're own money, and if they brick it in the process they are out alot more money then you are. and the way they save them selves is by again treading on undiscovered territory. So instead of asking make some attempt. learn to use the emulator, learn your device, if you are just getting to know the device then it may not be a good idea to jump right into rooting, and flashing roms....
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Think about it guys you've got devs, and then you have those of us who are just using what the devs design, be it lack of knowledge or lack of effort, either way if you have a free tab, make a backup, make a couple backups, and try it, or maybe get with a dev working on your tab to add the features of the gsm tab to our vzw tab. help them test it, It makes sense that devs get pissed when someone says i got a free tab, do some research, make some effort to further the development for a device in which the devs purchase in most cases with they're own money, and if they brick it in the process they are out alot more money then you are. and the way they save them selves is by again treading on undiscovered territory. So instead of asking make some attempt. learn to use the emulator, learn your device, if you are just getting to know the device then it may not be a good idea to jump right into rooting, and flashing roms....
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Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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Wow, ok... I just got the damn thing, let me, you know, learn how to code and program etc... got a while?
Yeah, I got a free tab, and I know next to nothing about it, so I'm trying to find out some information. I dunno that I would call expressing mild disappointment really classifies as "*****ing" but, hey, thanks for YOUR contribution to the thread too, guy. Super helpful. I understand the VZW tab isn't nearly as popular, and that means less people working on it, or maybe there are technical difficulties or something. I have no idea. I just know there is less information, etc. out there about it, and that's disappointing. Nowhere did I say anything like "people here suck for not supporting my device!" The ROM makers here are a talented bunch, that much is obvious... I really like what they're doing, and I'm guessing so does the OP. That's why we're asking about GSM roms... we obviously liked something someone made, and wish we could use it on our device. We're trying to find information, and you come and attack someone with the equivalent of an ER nurse getting mad at a Vet for coming in with a question about their daughter, and demanding that they help treat her themselves.
If I had ANYTHING even CLOSE to as helpful as some of the people here to contribute right now, I would... but I don't... I'm just trying to learn about this device. At my level of knowledge right now, I don't HAVE anything to give. So very sorry if that somehow offends you personally.
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LOL You just had a *****fit with the best CDMA dev we have, nice work.
How did you do it?
Hey man, watched your video review great stuff, any update date on how you got the rom on your CDMA Tab however? I just got a Sprint Tab and would love to flash Overcome on it...thanks for any advice
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Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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connexion2005 said:
Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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hey connexion2005, any update on the video? i´ve been surfing around the forums for a couple of hours now and haven´t found any procedures on how to get overcome on the VZW tab. just wondering
Hello!
I'm kinda noobish with this ROM thing that everyone talking about (I have my 1st smartphone 2 days now) so I would like to ask you why do you update ROM? If I do it, can I lose warranty?
Also, without cracking the phone (or buying products), can I use word/excel/powerpoint?
For my new stupid (but for me important questions) I'll ask soon
Hope for fast answer, wanna use the best out of this OMG-SO-GOOD phone!
zlxmasta said:
Hello!
I'm kinda noobish with this ROM thing that everyone talking about (I have my 1st smartphone 2 days now) so I would like to ask you why do you update ROM? If I do it, can I lose warranty?
Also, without cracking the phone (or buying products), can I use word/excel/powerpoint?
For my new stupid (but for me important questions) I'll ask soon
Hope for fast answer, wanna use the best out of this OMG-SO-GOOD phone!
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yes, installing custom roms does break your warranty, and to be quite honest if you don't know what the point of doing it is then its probably something that you will be better of not doing, especially since this is your first time using a smartphone.
btw this is not the correct forum for questions like this, you should have posted it in the general section, that would probably have resulted in a lot more answers.
Huh TNX, but if I dont learn it now I wouldnt know it later either (like general section), so I'm going to post it on general, maybe someone who has tima and will will tell me
zlxmasta said:
Huh TNX, but if I dont learn it now I wouldnt know it later either (like general section), so I'm going to post it on general, maybe someone who has tima and will will tell me
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well thats right i suppose, just keep in mind that rooting/installing a custom mod can brick* your phone if your not careful, which is why I don't recommend that you do it unless you are somewhat experienced with android.
*note:bricking is when your phone becomes as useful as a brick... in other words not useful at all, the o2x can actually be recovered from a bricked state in most cases but the recovery procedure is rather complicated and not something i would recommend for someone with little computer/phone knowledge.
PS: when I said you should post it in the general section I meant the o2x general section not the global general section, I guess I should have been a little more specific on the exact forum, sorry If i confused you.
Well its had to be experienced if you don't start somewhere.
To answer OPs question, installing roms, can greatly increase your phones perfomance, and it's also a fun past time.
Just play around with it, you don't need to be an expert at anything, just follow instructions
Hi guys,
So i wanted to know how i can know if someone (like the developer of a rom) is watching your text messages, and if they can send messages to cost you money...?
Thanks
nabil alami said:
Hi guys,
So i wanted to know how i can know if someone (like the developer of a rom) is watching your text messages, and if they can send messages to cost you money...?
Thanks
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No they aren't, and no they can't, and its kind of rude to come here with those kinds of suspicions/paranoia.....even if you have got something very dodgy/weird/sick to hide........see....it isn't nice when people throw unfounded suspicions at you, is it?!
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No they aren't, and no they can't, and its kind of rude to come here with those kinds of suspicions/paranoia.....even if you have got something very dodgy/weird/sick to hide........see....it isn't nice when people throw unfounded suspicions at you, is it?!
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I wasn't trying to offend anyone its just about an article i read so don't talk about things you don't know about and thats why i ask a question to learn.....not to get a stupid reply like yours...
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I wasn't trying to offend anyone its just about an article i read so don't talk about things you don't know about and thats why i ask a question to learn.....not to get a stupid reply like yours...
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Then maybe it would be wise to post a link to the article in order to justify your question
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Then maybe it would be wise to post a link to the article in order to justify your question
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It was a long time ago and you know what just forget it.
and sorry if i offended you!
now bye
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Then maybe it would be wise to post a link to the article in order to justify your question
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Btw i really like your rom (didn't notice it was yours) and its a gr8 rom and i didn't mean to offend you by this!
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It was a long time ago and you know what just forget it.
and sorry if i offended you!
now bye
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You didn't offend me in the slightest, I was just trying to illustrate to you what it must feel like to be a hard working Dev, giving time for free, to then have these kind of suspicions raised. I will also apologise for making the point more forcefully than was maybe necessary. Lessons learnt on both sides....I think you can rest assured that developers on xda(a very well controlled and reputable site) wouldn't dream of undertaking such misdemeanours.
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You didn't offend me in the slightest, I was just trying to illustrate to you what it must feel like to be a hard working Dev, giving time for free, to then have these kind of suspicions raised. I will also apologise for making the point more forcefully than was maybe necessary. Lessons learnt on both sides....I think you can rest assured that developers on xda(a very well controlled and reputable site) wouldn't dream of undertaking such misdemeanours.
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You are right and I'm still learning but thanks for the answer. And i Know that the developers work really hard on these Roms (i mean they are MUCH better than the stock ones).
ps. i just want to tell you about i think its a bug that i faced when i was on your rom it it was the the IMEI changed but i don't know why. ( it was in an older version than the current one)
You sometimes lose your imei when changing between Samsung roms and Cm9/aosp rooms due to different partitions, usually you will find out changes to a generic number (can't remember what it is!) But you can usually get it back by reflashing stock GB, but always have a back up of your efs folder.......and it isn't my ROM, I just help out on slim thread to allow dev to focus on the job in hand
nabil alami said:
You are right and I'm still learning but thanks for the answer. And i Know that the developers work really hard on these Roms (i mean they are MUCH better than the stock ones).
ps. i just want to tell you about i think its a bug that i faced when i was on your rom it it was the the IMEI changed but i don't know why. ( it was in an older version than the current one)
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You sometimes lose your imei when changing between Samsung roms and Cm9/aosp rooms due to different partitions, usually you will find out changes to a generic number (can't remember what it is!) But you can usually get it back by reflashing stock GB, but always have a back up of your efs folder.......and it isn't my ROM, I just help out on slim thread to allow dev to focus on the job in hand
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You sometimes lose your imei when changing between Samsung roms and Cm9/aosp rooms due to different partitions, usually you will find out changes to a generic number (can't remember what it is!) But you can usually get it back by reflashing stock GB, but always have a back up of your efs folder.......and it isn't my ROM, I just help out on slim thread to allow dev to focus on the job in hand
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ohh ok....thanks for the answer.
Keep up the Good work.
I think he was relating to a kernel dev here on xda,who was using his kernel to send out adds and make money.
That dev. Was kicked out of xda and will never come back.
His name was Damiangto.
zodiaxe66 said:
I think he was relating to a kernel dev here on xda,who was using his kernel to send out adds and make money.
That dev. Was kicked out of xda and will never come back.
His name was Damiangto.
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The reason he was banned principally, from what I remember, was that he refused to share his source code, though interestingly I went to his site for the first time today to look at his ics kernel, only to find out he wants money for access to latest releases, and yes, lots of adverts etc! Not my cup of tea!
This is a discussion thread for all things custom; Building steps and tips, problem solving and issue discussion. All questions and/or comments are welcome. Be aware, although I build and customize ROMs, I am not a professional developer and cannot promise a solution for your problem. But, hopefully, we can work together to come up with practical solutions for any problems here at m7spr.
So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.
Felnarion said:
So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.
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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....
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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....
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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom
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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom
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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool
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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool
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I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?
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I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?
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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.
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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.
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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.
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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.
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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?
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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?
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A couple of people developed a "consensus" that it had been fixed. then 2 more people bricked their phones. ALLEGEDLY the CPU has a tendency to over clock itself and lock at 1.7 Ghz
This is all fine and dandy yet no one can figure out why or how to stop it.
I thought so too
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I thought so too
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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.
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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.
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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to
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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to
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It is the only common factor in permanent bricks. Phone gets hot, phone wont charge. All other "bricks" are user induced because people did not understand what S-Off meant, what wiping in TWRP means, what GSM means etc etc.
So how many confirmed permanent bricks and when was the last? Has anyone proven a cause? Contacted HTC or CM or Sprint? If there were twenty cases with only 5 confirmed, then it isn't that big from a larger standpoint. See what I mean? That would explain what you see as a lack of support? Has this happened to you?
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I thought so too
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Check your hangouts.
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Why does there seem to be very little development going on here and why is the development that is taking place so closely guarded? I thought everyone wanted more choices and new options..... I see that there is current and ongoing 10.2 development (hell, I've even built it), but no one wants to release it. I'm hearing that the last guy who did that got banned. So, if everyone is waiting for OFFICIAL builds to be released first, why are there none being officially worked on? Two times in the last three weeks I have inquired about wanting to work on some new development and have either been told straight out not to release or been effectively threatened with reporting before I have even begun an attempt. I don't know if maybe there has been a rash of jerks who are trying to claim ownership of work that does not belong to them or what, but I've never seen as much negativity about new builds in any thread I have been a part of. I want to claim ownership of nothing; I only want to open doors. I guess I'll just work on things for my own use and leave this forum to the guys currently running it. HMPH :angel:
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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.
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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.
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Man, if I could do that I'd be a GOD. :angel:
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Haha Naw but I see your point but I love and appreciate every devolepers effort here on this forum ..there not a a lot but a bunch of smart and quietly brilliant devs here ...I'm comfortable but the more the merrier
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