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I ordered me a Captivate and it's shipped from MD and should be here Thursday, but in the mean time, I'm doing research on what to do and how to do it.
I found the one click root..Does it work for the newest Captivates??
Lag Fix?? What is it and how do I fix it?
Roms..I'm coming from a G1..Is flashing a rom on the Captivate anything like the G1??
Will the upgrade from a G1 to a Captivate be very noticeable???LOL
Thanks folks
~SMurf
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
Agree, it works fine with stock rom and launcher pro. So happy after using those crappy wm devices
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Berserk87 said:
i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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micro2112 said:
Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
micro2112 said:
Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
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You'll get different answers. There are people who say theirs works find. But I'm in the camp that believes all are bad, and that you just need to be in the right circumstances to experience the problem.
But I can't imagine that it won't be fixed.
johnnydeathmatch said:
Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Got a link for that?? Is it in the market??
I appreciate the help, and seeing as the Captivate does have it's issues, I'm hoping it's gonna be a good phone..lol
I'm coming from a G1/TP2 and was excited to only pay $10 for mine..Yes I had to sign a new 2 year contract but hey..I got the money..lol
In reference to the Captivates UI and replacing it with LauncherPro, would GDE work just as good?? I do like LauncherPro but I find GDE to be more visually pleasing.
Thanks for teh info.
~SMurf
SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
big99gt said:
SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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Got my Captivate today and love it so far. I did root it with an update.zip from a friends captivate and have superuser installed. Should i go ahead and flash Clockwork? Also, i have live walpapers on my sd card but i cant get to them. Any help?
What about sideloading? I did the adb commands all the way thru correctly but it want let me install apps. Do I have to go thru adb with the install command?
I appreciate the help guys. Thanks
Berserk87 said:
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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i'm in the same boat as the OP and i'm wondering when you upgrade the firmware to 2.2, will you lose all the stuff you've done to the phone (like the mods and stuff)?
OK folks...Having an issue.
I rooted my phone, and I'm trying to get side loading to work...or some sort of app installing thing to work. I tried to flash clockwork but apparently it didn't work(hit with an error after reoping the app) and for some reason Superuser app keeps crashing and none of my apps and get root...Did I unroot it??
I tried to use the "Unleash The Beast" update.zip and thats when everything starting going bonkers..Can I go to stock and start over??
Yes you can flash back to stock with the Odin One Click Downloader...then I'd run one of the update.zips that roots and installs other tools like Busybox etc., just take your time and read the instructions before you try anything new. There are 2 versions of Odin so make sure you have the one from the One Click Downloader post (the other is for flashing roms and kernals, not restoring to stock), and install the android sdk and learn some basic adb commands ( adb reboot recovery, adb reboot download,makes life so much easier). With a little time you'll get the hang of it...just watch out for driver issues and make sure you follow the instructions and you really can't brick the phone. Odin is your friend and you need it anyways to flash back to stock before you try some of the new fixes, mods etc. GL, I won't be around much now as I am forced to sell my phone due to being unemployed but I'm already scheming to get a new one from Amazon for a penny lol.
EDIT: I read the post for Unleash the beast and it says its ok if your already rooted so I don't think that was the problem. Your best bet is to get to a PC or laptop and use Odin to flash back to stock (once your in download mode and the phone is recognized, it really is one click lol) then run Unleash the beast again. If you can't get su to work in the terminal app then you don"t have root, but you do have superuser permissons installed so I'm kinda at a loss. Might as well get used to flashing back to stock anyways if you like to hack and try new things lol I used Odin at least 20 times over the course of a few days!
after reading your edit post, I'm much happier..LOL
I'm fine with reflashing to stock as long as Titanium does my back ups. I was gonna reflash tonight and do as suggested. I'm also fine with Adb. I'm coming from a G1 and Adb is very familiar to me..LOL
Thanks for the info and help and you'll prolly get a Pm from me if I'm stuck..LOL
Sent from my Captivate to the best site in the world.
I spent hours per day for weeks reading through this and other forums I advise you to read read read and read some more before you do anything to it that way you will understand everything a bit better and remember.
for every action there is a reaction
After I found out I was getting one,I searched and read and read some more. I'm comfortable with Adb and the terminal, and after reading about the not so easy to brickness,I'm sorta happier..LOL
I do have an issue tho with Clockwork. After I installed rom manager, I flashed the recovery and rebooted. It booted into clockwork but I didn't know what else to do. I flashed my G1 on almost a daily basis and understand the update.zip files...but where do I get it? I did my backup and its still on my SD card but I'm still using the stock recovery. Do I flash my backup?
I've got my phone just about how I want it and all I'm waiting for are the Rome and 2.2 along with everyone else..lol
Thanks for the help.
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
toawkanavngthded said:
alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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smurfgod said:
Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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wow thank you for posting that!! i went to check it out and it looks awesome! i mean ive always been on xda and browsed androidforums but never dl anything androidforums. always trusted xda but im sure they are the same and have different resources . so whats this clockwork you speak of lol. i am a noob on android. is that to boost speed or something?
EDIT: i was reading that thread and seems ppl are having issues with wifi tethering. is urs working fine?
I would like to get into the scene of rooting my phone now and exploring what it can do. Maybe there's not much it can do that I am expecting, but I won't know what its all about until I do it and get familiar with it.
So I was wondering if anyone could help me out and tell me the best/maybe easiest method to root my phone? It is the HTC Hero with software build of 2.31.651.7 and Firmware version 2.1 -update1
If I am able to root it, which rom would you all suggest I try out as a noob? I don't really want the Sprint TV or Amazon MP3 bloatware. I would like to be able to keep stuff like my gmail, Androidd market, Sprint GPS iff it matters. I would also like to be able to do some customizing in a similar way like with Launcher Pro Plus.
Am I able to root, and if so, can someone help me to be able to root my phone today?
Thank you for your help and time,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I would like to get into the scene of rooting my phone now and exploring what it can do. Maybe there's not much it can do that I am expecting, but I won't know what its all about until I do it and get familiar with it.
So I was wondering if anyone could help me out and tell me the best/maybe easiest method to root my phone? It is the HTC Hero with software build of 2.31.651.7 and Firmware version 2.1 -update1
If I am able to root it, which rom would you all suggest I try out as a noob? I don't really want the Sprint TV or Amazon MP3 bloatware. I would like to be able to keep stuff like my gmail, Androidd market, Sprint GPS iff it matters. I would also like to be able to do some customizing in a similar way like with Launcher Pro Plus.
Am I able to root, and if so, can someone help me to be able to root my phone today?
Thank you for your help and time,
Whiteice
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If you want to theme (i.e. decompiling framework and rebuilding) you need a DeOdex rom.
GMail and the Market are in every rom and I am pretty sure Sprint GPS is installable from its apk.
But once you have root access you can get RootExplorer and Navigate to /System/App (if its in the same spot as the evo) and delete the bloatware from your stock rom.
I would also like to know the root method of choice for the Hero.
I need to root someone elses phone.
Edit: These might be worth a look.
Rooting Guides/Tools:
Manual Rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
Unrevoked root method. Not sure if it works on 2.31.651.7. http://unrevoked.com
Universal Root App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598
z4root app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833954
But remember... I am far from knowledgeable about the Hero, so wait for someone more experienced to confirm.
xNotta said:
If you want to theme (i.e. decompiling framework and rebuilding) you need a DeOdex rom.
GMail and the Market are in every rom and I am pretty sure Sprint GPS is installable from its apk.
But once you have root access you can get RootExplorer and Navigate to /System/App (if its in the same spot as the evo) and delete the bloatware from your stock rom.
I would also like to know the root method of choice for the Hero.
I need to root someone elses phone.
Edit: These might be worth a look.
Rooting Guides/Tools:
Manual Rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
Unrevoked root method. Not sure if it works on 2.31.651.7. http://unrevoked.com
Universal Root App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598
z4root app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833954
But remember... I am far from knowledgeable about the Hero, so wait for someone more experienced to confirm.
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So when I install a custom rom, does it install the Sprint APK file for me, and then from that point I choose whether to install it or not? If that is the case, does it do this will all the default files and that is how you choose what you want to keep and delete?
Thanks,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
So when I install a custom rom, does it install the Sprint APK file for me, and then from that point I choose whether to install it or not? If that is the case, does it do this will all the default files and that is how you choose what you want to keep and delete?
Thanks,
Whiteice
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Most roms have their bloatware removed and usually gets put in a folder on your SD card so you can install what the rom dev removed.
If you install an OTA based rom it will usually have the stock apps with some of the useless ones removed.
But if you use an AOSP rom, like Cyanogen, there wont be any HTC or Sprint apps.
It's really up to the rom dev to decide what they want in their rom.
Once you flash the new rom you can use RootExplorer or ADB to delete those apps that you don't want.
Is that what you were asking?
Also I found another root method:
SuperOneClick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
xNotta said:
Most roms have their bloatware removed and usually gets put in a folder on your SD card so you can install what the rom dev removed.
If you install an OTA based rom it will usually have the stock apps with some of the useless ones removed.
But if you use an AOSP rom, like Cyanogen, there wont be any HTC or Sprint apps.
It's really up to the rom dev to decide what they want in their rom.
Once you flash the new rom you can use RootExplorer or ADB to delete those apps that you don't want.
Is that what you were asking?
Also I found another root method:
SuperOneClick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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Yes I think you answered it. Now I just need to know how to root, and what to do when I root to load a custom rom. I also need to find out which rom would be best for me to start out with?
Again, I would like to be able to load some of the default bloatware and rid the rest and then load up some programs from the apps market.
Thank you again,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Yes I think you answered it. Now I just need to know how to root, and what to do when I root to load a custom rom. I also need to find out which rom would be best for me to start out with?
Again, I would like to be able to load some of the default bloatware and rid the rest and then load up some programs from the apps market.
Thank you again,
Whiteice
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I would recommend rooting and exploring your current stock rom first untill you feel comfortable with installing a recovery, nandroid backing up, using the recovery to wipe/flashing the new rom.
When I first rooted my phone I was told to
spend a week reading how to root.
Root my stock rom.
Spend a week reading about new roms and how to flash and backup.
THEN try to flash a new rom.
Asking "Which rom is best" usually will get you flamed, It comes down to personal preference.
Here is the wiki of roms for the hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=CDMA_Hero_ROMs
First rom I flashed on my evo was a Fresh rom.
It's pretty stock with some tweaks done to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
And hopefully someone will be able to answer which rooting method to use.
I started a thread in the Q&A section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9323410
xNotta said:
I would recommend rooting and exploring your current stock rom first untill you feel comfortable with installing a recovery, nandroid backing up, using the recovery to wipe/flashing the new rom.
When I first rooted my phone I was told to
spend a week reading how to root.
Root my stock rom.
Spend a week reading about new roms and how to flash and backup.
THEN try to flash a new rom.
Asking "Which rom is best" usually will get you flamed, It comes down to personal preference.
Here is the wiki of roms for the hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=CDMA_Hero_ROMs
First rom I flashed on my evo was a Fresh rom.
It's pretty stock with some tweaks done to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
And hopefully someone will be able to answer which rooting method to use.
I started a thread in the Q&A section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9323410
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Ok, I like your idea about rooting with my stock rom first. I just need to figure out how now to root it.
I may be bugging you today if that is ok. You seem pretty helpful, and with doing something like this for your first time that you are not familiar with, well help is what I will need
I have also subscribed to your other thread you linked to. Hopefully something, at least for me, easy will come up to root my phone.
Thank you again for all your help,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Ok, I like your idea about rooting with my stock rom first. I just need to figure out how now to root it.
I may be bugging you today if that is ok. You seem pretty helpful, and with doing something like this for your first time that you are not familiar with, well help is what I will need
I have also subscribed to your other thread you linked to. Hopefully something, at least for me, easy will come up to root my phone.
Thank you again for all your help,
Whiteice
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The threads linked tell you how to root, just read them.
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Ok, I like your idea about rooting with my stock rom first. I just need to figure out how now to root it.
I may be bugging you today if that is ok. You seem pretty helpful, and with doing something like this for your first time that you are not familiar with, well help is what I will need
I have also subscribed to your other thread you linked to. Hopefully something, at least for me, easy will come up to root my phone.
Thank you again for all your help,
Whiteice
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Not a problem, I know where you're coming from. I was terrified to root when I first read about it.
I'll try my best to answer what I can.
And if Unrevoked works with the .7 version, It basically does everything for you so it's really simple.
If you can check your Radio Baseband version and it's one of these, unrevoked should work.
But we should wait for someone to confirm.
(Should be in Menu -> Settings -> About Phone -> Software info)
HTC CDMA Hero, running radio baseband versions
1.04.01.09.21
2.41.04.02.02
2.42.01.04.23
2.42.01.04.27
Source: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
xNotta said:
Not a problem, I know where you're coming from. I was terrified to root when I first read about it.
I'll try my best to answer what I can.
And if Unrevoked works with the .7 version, It basically does everything for you so it's really simple.
If you can check your Radio Baseband version and it's one of these, unrevoked should work.
But we should wait for someone to confirm.
(Should be in Menu -> Settings -> About Phone -> Software info)
HTC CDMA Hero, running radio baseband versions
1.04.01.09.21
2.41.04.02.02
2.42.01.04.23
2.42.01.04.27
Source: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
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Again, thank you for your time and patience. I really want to do this and want to do it right. If something would go wrong, I wouldn't know what to do.
My radio baseband version is 2.42.01.04.27
Will wait to hear back or see if anyone can confirm it working.
What is unrevoked? I am guessing it's kind of a "one click" type thing that will root the phone, or is it more then that?
Thank you,
Whiteice
*EDIT* So I read your link and read up on it a little. I have a basic understanding of what it does, but again, this is all new to me
You know, the more I think about it, the more I think it would be easier to ruu back to .5 and root from there. I know for a fact that unrevoked will root .5, as its the method I used. Also, I've heard good things about regaw's root, too.
Just follow the directions EXACTLY and you can't go wrong.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
Whatever happened to reading and trying? More importantly just reading.
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Again, thank you for your time and patience. I really want to do this and want to do it right. If something would go wrong, I wouldn't know what to do.
My radio baseband version is 2.42.01.04.27
Will wait to hear back or see if anyone can confirm it working.
What is unrevoked? I am guessing it's kind of a "one click" type thing that will root the phone, or is it more then that?
Thank you,
Whiteice
*EDIT* So I read your link and read up on it a little. I have a basic understanding of what it does, but again, this is all new to me
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Okay, I wouldn't go off just radio versions...I would go off software versions.
I posted in the other thread of his and HAD recommended manually with ADB but now I would recommend using SuperOneClick. I've been searching google and it seems to be the more popular one. Have yet to read someone using Unrevoked.
Asadullah said:
Whatever happened to reading and trying? More importantly just reading.
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I think you have to sign a "No reading" clause when you register here. Or at least just to post in the Hero section...
stayclean said:
I think you have to sign a "No reading" clause when you register here. Or at least just to post in the Hero section...
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I appreciate it, thanks for the sarcasm guys.
The reading part has to do with how bad my ADHD is. Thus the reason why I am trying to find something a little easier and not so in depth.
But thanks again for the sarcasm. It's much appreciate being a noob and trying to find help.
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I appreciate it, thanks for the sarcasm guys.
The reading part has to do with how bad my ADHD is. Thus the reason why I am trying to find something a little easier and not so in depth.
But thanks again for the sarcasm. It's much appreciate being a noob and trying to find help.
Whiteice
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ADHD, huh? Then you might be better off with a one click method. ADB method, while not difficult, requires a fair amount of reading and exact typing, or you get a hero shaped paperweight. Superoneclick seems to be the option of choice.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
user7618 said:
ADHD, huh? Then you might be better off with a one click method. ADB method, while not difficult, requires a fair amount of reading and exact typing, or you get a hero shaped paperweight. Superoneclick seems to be the option of choice.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Yes, its very bad, especially when it comes to reading. It is very VERY frustrating when you want to be able to read something but you can't.
Back on topic, thank you for the advice. Now to try and find out which one click method would be best for my phone.
Thank you again for your help and understanding,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Yes, its very bad, especially when it comes to reading. It is very VERY frustrating when you want to be able to read something but you can't.
Back on topic, thank you for the advice. Now to try and find out which one click method would be best for my phone.
Thank you again for your help and understanding,
Whiteice
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No problem.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
stayclean said:
I think you have to sign a "No reading" clause when you register here. Or at least just to post in the Hero section...
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He must not have read it when he joined. Hypocrite.
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.
Try the xda wiki page for the hero... has all good information linked in one place.
I have a verizon wireless droid 3..
I think the verizon part matters right? lol anyways, i just rooted m phone tonight and ive downloaded root explorer, root uninstaller, rom manager, and ti backup. id really like to "flash"(is that proper?) a new rom onto my phone. I understand one of the major options is steeldroid. /what else do i need to download to my pohne to get this rom? Im a complete noob when it comes to android. Period. I came from the sheltered world of blackberries.
I read a thread on another site which was a walkthrough and gave links, but the bootstrap link asks me question i dont have answers to. Help? :/ i download stuff to my computer?
a lot of explanations and links are in the 1st post from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
under "Flashing instructions:"
Just get a bootloader so you can get Clockwork installed and you can install the ROM from there. Just read up about it.
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bootloader? Is our bootloader unlocked?? we have a hijack bootstrap and 2nd-init but yes I would suggest grabbing hashcodes modified version of koush's clockworkmod and installing flashing from there.
how do i openn the .rar file that rsdlite is in?
Do i have to do the beginning steps if my phone is already rooted?
I know u just wanna flash it, but u should def do some reading. Using rsd u can really mess ur phone up! Make sure ur settings/about/system are 5.6.890 and install clockwork first. Then boot into clockwork and u can flash. Only use rsd if ur bricked and its last resort!
Edit: after re-reading, I highly suggest u read the original posts in the rom u want to flash. Make sure its in the droid 3 forum. No offense, but if ur unfamiliar with rar and zip, this may b a little too much
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MrJudylicious said:
I know u just wanna flash it, but u should def do some reading. Using rsd u can really mess ur phone up! Make sure ur settings/about/system are 5.6.890 and install clockwork first. Then boot into clockwork and u can flash. Only use rsd if ur bricked and its last resort!
Edit: after re-reading, I highly suggest u read the original posts in the rom u want to flash. Make sure its in the droid 3 forum. No offense, but if ur unfamiliar with rar and zip, this may b a little too much
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i agree w/ ya......with some roms they suggest using safestrap instead of just koushs modded bootstrap which may/may-not be the same as safestrap and if you use the wrong thing, you may chance bootlooping your phone or worse, so yeah......if he gave specific instructions, your best bet is to follow those for simplicity so that if you have issues you can just confirm using all the steps he listed unless you're an advanced modder and you know what you're doing
and to extract rar files, http://www.rarlab.com is the app you need
thanks for the help guys seriously.
i AM on 5.6.890, and im very familiar with .zip files just not .rar. didnt realize you had to use an outside program to open .rar
isnt clockworkmod the rom manager i downloaded?
i guess im looking for a "How to for dummies" of sorts. i know that i will be able to do this, i just want to do it right. Id hate to brick a phone I just got.
Clockwork is different from rom manager. I think steel droid just released a version u can use with safestrap, but read up on the safestrap and SD threads first! I jacked around with safestrap and bootlooped and rsd'd and bootlooped and now im back. Once u install clockwork mod, create a backup! Then, put the rom on ur sd card and select install zip from sd card. Don't use rsd unless ur really really messed up
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Okay so I download clockwork and safestrap(install to phone or computer? Links?) And after I do that create a backup, install the new ROM on my sd and open clockwork. And select install from sd...?
Droooooiiid.. the sound forever in our hearts and nightmares <3
Alright, call me mean, but if u can't figure out these next instructions, I can't help u. What's going to happen is ull screw up and then fret because u don't know how to rsd. Its very easy to bootloop!
search the forum for hashcodes tweaked bootstrapper (which is clockwork). I would stay away from the safestrap if I were u. U download this to ur phone, and install it like an .exe. once installed, hit bootstrap recovery, then when u hit reboot recovery, it will reboot into clockwork. Once in clockwork select backup and it will make a nandroid (exact copy). After that u can choose to install the roms zip from sd card. Once its finished, I highly suggest u use the wipe data/cache in clockwork. That will reset all ur data and become a new-out-of-box phone. If u bootloop, then u use rsd.
Be aware that u can brick ur phone. I've saw a few with low batteries get stuck! We all try to help here, but I think the best for u is to read instead of doing. We will try to help if u bootloop, but sometimes there is no fixing.
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MrJudylicious said:
Alright, call me mean, but if u can't figure out these next instructions, I can't help u. What's going to happen is ull screw up and then fret because u don't know how to rsd. Its very easy to bootloop!
search the forum for hashcodes tweaked bootstrapper (which is clockwork). I would stay away from the safestrap if I were u. U download this to ur phone, and install it like an .exe. once installed, hit bootstrap recovery, then when u hit reboot recovery, it will reboot into clockwork. Once in clockwork select backup and it will make a nandroid (exact copy). After that u can choose to install the roms zip from sd card. Once its finished, I highly suggest u use the wipe data/cache in clockwork. That will reset all ur data and become a new-out-of-box phone. If u bootloop, then u use rsd.
Be aware that u can brick ur phone. I've saw a few with low batteries get stuck! We all try to help here, but I think the best for u is to read instead of doing. We will try to help if u bootloop, but sometimes there is no fixing.
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yeah, safestrap isn't compatable w/ all roms at the moment, and like mrjudy said, low battery can affect rom flashing...suggested is >75% battery life
To add to MrJudylicious post...
I came from a blackberry too, before I got my first Android 2 years ago.
Here's what you should do. First, Familiarize yourself with the Android ecosystem. Flashing ROMs on a brand new phone is tempting, but at the same time, you have no mental reference of how Android was before you flashed that ROM, so it's hard for you to compare and see what's best for you, and what's not. What new feature you was added, what has been improved over your last ROM, etc...
I used Android for 6 months before rooting for the first time, just to give myself some time to learn what's nice about it, and also what I would like for it to achieve, that it can't do without root.
I flashed my first ROM 1 year after that, and this was a great time. Why ? Because I saw how cool things became, I was able to compare the ROM with my "stock android" experience.
I read all your posts in this thread, and you make me feel like you might not be ready to jump in feet first in this. All the ROMS for the Droid3 are in very early stage of development and, if I would be you, would wait for them to become more stable and reliable. I'm not saying that they should not be used at all, just saying that it might not be the best idea for you yo do this RIGHT NOW.
Please do yourself a favor, and keep your phone as it is right now. Root is OK, but be careful.
SX86 said:
To add to MrJudylicious post...
I came from a blackberry too, before I got my first Android 2 years ago.
Here's what you should do. First, Familiarize yourself with the Android ecosystem. Flashing ROMs on a brand new phone is tempting, but at the same time, you have no mental reference of how Android was before you flashed that ROM, so it's hard for you to compare and see what's best for you, and what's not. What new feature you was added, what has been improved over your last ROM, etc...
I used Android for 6 months before rooting for the first time, just to give myself some time to learn what's nice about it, and also what I would like for it to achieve, that it can't do without root.
I flashed my first ROM 1 year after that, and this was a great time. Why ? Because I saw how cool things became, I was able to compare the ROM with my "stock android" experience.
I read all your posts in this thread, and you make me feel like you might not be ready to jump in feet first in this. All the ROMS for the Droid3 are in very early stage of development and, if I would be you, would wait for them to become more stable and reliable. I'm not saying that they should not be used at all, just saying that it might not be the best idea for you yo do this RIGHT NOW.
Please do yourself a favor, and keep your phone as it is right now. Root is OK, but be careful.
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perfection if i've ever seen it i was in a similar situation, i had a rooted phone and there were next to no roms for the first android phone i got, so when i got my incredible 2 the first thing i did was root it since it was essentially the same exact FW and layout, and i've been mod-happy ever since lol
thanks guys, you've been a massive help forreal. Maybe an idea for you guys to make the learning process better for n00bs such as myself, is to make a thread and discuss some of the terms, acronyms, file names exes apks bak and such. And sticky that thread so when you do your best to try and help someone they can better understand you guys.
Just an idea though. I think ill just wait to flash ROMs and whatnot.
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Sorry I used the wrong term. I meant bootstrap not bootloader.
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Okay, so here I am all proud (and a little surprised) that I made the jump from a WM device to the REVO . . . excited about the opportunity to take advantage of the open source android architecture, and skim off some of the great work being done by apparently some of the leading chefs (is that a WM term?).
But now that I'm here, I'm thoroughly confused by it all and a little gun shy because I'm clearly a generation behind what's going on.
My situation is I have a stock REVO with ZV7 - never rooted . . . a "virgin-bread". I'm interested in rooting it and playing around a bit. I found my way through spl unlockers and custom ROMs okay on my WM device but there's just too much new stuff going on here:
WTF is a nandroid, a superuser, an ASOP? What's in a Revotoolkit? Do I back up my factory ROM before or after I root? How and why do I install recovery? What does clockworkmod do? Okay, you get the point?
So here's my question: Where TF is the dummy's guide to rooting this device? I know there's a lot of "download this, click on this .bat" stuff out there but I'm looking for the super-one-click that explains it all . . . slowly. Is that out there somewhere?
I know you kids are in the proverbial candy store this week with GB just out and all so I'll say thanks in advance to any of you who could help me do a little catching up.
There is a one click root process that installs super user and such, and I plan on working on it tonight to try to get it to install clockwork recovery at the same time and make it so it sticks. Of you want to Getty on irc tonight there are several guys on there that can help you out.
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I may not be the most knowledgeable, but I've been following the progress as it has occurred and I'll do my best to answer each of your questions.
Nandroid, from what I am aware, is the term for a backup of your current rom that you can create through CWR, or 'Clockwork Recovery Mod'. This is a mod that changes your recovery from the less useful stock recovery to the more useful CWR, which can be used to install new things to your phone and backup or restore roms.
Super user is the program that is put into place through rooting that allows you to selectively grant 'root access' to various programs. When the program wants access, it will pop up with a 'super user request' and you can allow or deny it. This root access will let certain apps do more, and for some apps, it is required for any functionality at all. (Such as root explorer, a file explorer, that will normally display the files on your phone in a read-only manner, but with root access, you can read and write files.)
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and is used to refer to elements that are the standard google code or some variation of it for a given element. These pieces tend to be faster and more stable than the custom lockscreens or dialers that some phones will use.
Revotoolkit is the app that allows a rooted user to install CWR (Clockwork recovery) onto their device, and it exists in large part because (from what i understand) the revolution's file system is a bit different from other phones, so we are not able to use the app ROM Manager which many other phones can use to install CWR and switch ROMS easily and such. Attempts to use rom manager result in non-functional phones, iirc.
In order to back up your stock rom, you will need CWR, and that requires root access to install, so you will back up the stock rom after you root the phone. This is a good idea, as if anything goes wron with your installation of a new rom or other component (theme, boot image, etc.) you can restore your backup and have the standard ROM again, but still with root access.
As above, you install recovery through the revotoolkit app, and you do so in order to be able to install custom roms and backup your existing rom, as well as being able to install themes or other 'flashable zips' that are made to be installed to a rooted phone through CWR. as noted above, installing recovery requires root.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and i'll do my best to help! Everyone here is quite helpful and friendly, and we're glad to have another person on the revolution!
p.s., I am sure people will help correct me if any of this is unclear or incorrect
All that, and the big thing is that there is usually always someone who can help you in this community. While I myself cannot frequent it every night until 1am like I used to, there is still a community of helpers in IRC towards the evening where people can help you navigate and make sure you don't brick your device in all these processes.
In answer to the backup question, you can only backup after you root, because you have to be rooted to install the recovery that allows you to backup.
You started with an oddball in the Android world here. Nothing is the same for this particular phone when it comes to the modding community, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We seem to have less issues and more stability. Because it's a smaller and distinct community, you get more help. Not as much of the "it's called search, use it" crowd.
Also, do a settings - about phone and make sure you're running the latest update (Android 2.3.4) - if you are and your phone is stock, then you are golden for modding. If not, wait until it gets to your phone, then start modding - it will save you some headache.
As for modding - if you have Microsoft on your phone, your not experiencing the true Android experience. Microsoft sucks on Android. If for no other reason, that's the biggest one to mod this phone.
Your missing out on Navigation, decent speech searching, and speech to navigate, etc, etc. And Verizon maps... bah! No one should pay for navigation.
Guys: Thanks. The info above really goes far with helping me wrap my head around it. I'm going to follow some of the the spider holes and see where they take me.
With regard to the forum member's willingness to help each other out, that's something I noticed right away since late August - which is when I picked up the phone and started lurking. You guys really do a great job of keeping it productive and the senior folks - obviously - are extremely responsive.
Thanks again. I'm planning to stick around and I'm looking forward to contributing a little further downstream.
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
doctorhook said:
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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There is a root method in the development section. Check it out!
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Thanks MT. I'll probably take a crack
at this late tonite and feed back.
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hi, i recently acquired my sweet DROID 3, its my first smart phone and i would like to know the very specifics of rooting it.. im very tech savvy so dont hold the info back, i know how to root it (thanks to google) but am just very wary on what all i can do with a rooted phone (compared to an unrooted one) all replies are welcome. thank you
also, if i were to root, what apps (stock apps) should i get rid of to further enhance the performance of my phone?
Sorry if the title is misleading guys, if you want to know the easiest way to root your droid go to redmondpie.com
Custom firmware is the biggest reason to root. Others would include free tethering and removing pesky bloatware.
Honestly until you start playing with bootloaders and stuff it is hard to mess up a rooted phone. The worse you will have to do is a factory reset.
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accophox, i am aware of the benefits of rooting, and i know the steps to take, but in what order? and do you know the easiest way to get rid of all those crappy stock apps?
Another newbie here....
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
nathanb131 said:
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
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First, there really is no way to back up your phone without rooting it in the first place. If you do mess up badly, like bricking it, you can always use a program called RSD (found in the Droid 3 Android Development section) to restore the stock ROM.
If you aren't 100%, a ROM is basically the OS of your phone. Think of it as different versions of Linux (which is exactly what it is).
Second, as stated earlier, by simply rooting your phone, it's hard to mess it up. Rooting merely gives your phone additional permissions. Unless you start deleting stuff in Titanium backup, you are fine.
Third, One Click Root is very idiot proof. But I will run you through a very brief guide: Download and install the driver for your respective computer's OS here and download the latest version of Pete's One Click Root. http://www.psouza4.com/droid3/ Then, enable USB debugging by going under settings-> Applications-> Development, and checking the box. Assuming you have the correct drivers installed on your computer, you should plug your phone in and allow it to recognize the device and such. After it's all done, open up Pete's One Click Root and simply click Root My Phone. Let it do it's thing, then you are done.
Fourth, I never use Titanium Backup. To make a perfect back up of your device, download Rom Manager from the app marketplace. Then download the droid 3 bootstrap at http://goo.gl/b4b6L visit that link on your phone and make sure you have "Unknown Sources" checked under application settings on your phone. Open up Rom manager and Click the top option to get the correct version of ClockworkMod Recovery for your phone. Once that is done, open up the bootstrap application you just installed and click the top option (bootstrap recovery) wait for it to say Success! then click the second option. Your phone will reboot. Using the volume buttons on the side of your phone as up and down and the power button to select options, scroll down to Backup and Restore on CWM menu that popped up (it's blue). Select Backup. Note: Make sure your battery is at least 75%. Allow it to do it's thing, it will take a while. When it is done, click Reboot Now. You now have a perfect backup of your current system.
Fifth, Debloating your phone is kind of risky, at least in my opinion. A safer option is to install an app called Script Manager and download and run the script found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 Instead of removing your bloat, it simply renames it and prevents it from starting up. It also comes with an option to reverse the changes if you want bloat back.
Finally, I would recommend following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056 to installing Steel Droid V3. Steel Droid is a simple Rom that doesn't require you to wipe all your data and is still pretty neat. I would run the script I mentioned earlier AFTER flashing to Steel Droid though.
Looking back, that is a **** load of text. I typed it all for you so I hope you get some use out of it
Have fun customizing your phone!
It may sound a little mean but go start reading threads. If someone tells you step by step, great you've done it but do you have any idea what you've done. All the info is in these threads. Its ridiculous how much I've learned reading every thread I can since I joined in august. When you don't understand what it is you're doing, that's when you goof **** up and post help me threads
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Thanks. You guys are awesome!
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Slayer621 - a thousand thanks for the baby steps! Best walkthrough I've seen and exactly what I needed to know!
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No problem! Just make sure you are careful. Don't do anything without checking on these forums for the possible outcomes. Deleting a seemingly useless file could make your phone a paper weight!