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Will the Bionic have a locked down bootloader like the droid x?
I have no knowledge on the subject, but I can only assume that it will.
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Yeah, Moto confirmed it. It can still be rooted though (I'm assuming) , which is the most important thing to me personally.
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I love this community, and the ability to try others' work. I think Moto will keep their products locked to a degree. Done with them yet holding on to my Droid.
Who knows though now that Xoom is unlocked, maybe Moto finally got the hint. We can all wish, but until the release comes, we won't know for sure
The Atrix 4G got locked down, but hopefully we will have better luck..... My Droid Eris is feeling slower by the day, but I won't use my upgrade on a locked-down phone.
I remember reading from a few different places that the bionic has a good chance of being unlocked. That's because the chip they are using in the bionic vs. D2 and dx. The d2 and x have a certain chip that needs to locked down or something but since the bionic has the Tegra processor it won't have that special chip. I hope this is the case.
is this phone even worth getting? i'm due for an upgrade and they been trying to throw the iphone4 at me but i've been waiting for this...now i wonder if this is a waste of time... my eris is driving me crazy so i want something fairly soon...this phone seems to be the only worthy choice though for verizon customers...are there any other competitive options besides this phone without switching carriers?
bill.mahoney said:
is this phone even worth getting? i'm due for an upgrade and they been trying to throw the iphone4 at me but i've been waiting for this...now i wonder if this is a waste of time... my eris is driving me crazy so i want something fairly soon...this phone seems to be the only worthy choice though for verizon customers...are there any other competitive options besides this phone without switching carriers?
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Thunderbolt? They believe they have a root for it already. And for sure is unlocked. It's for sure gonna have a great dev community.
oh. ok. i'll look into it more...i was under the impression it was for sprint like an evo2 replacement... didn't know it was verizon. ty
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I remember reading from a few different places that the bionic has a good chance of being unlocked. That's because the chip they are using in the bionic vs. D2 and dx. The d2 and x have a certain chip that needs to locked down or something but since the bionic has the Tegra processor it won't have that special chip. I hope this is the case.
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Chip's called e-fuse
The atrix boot loader is signed not encrypted
I expect the same will happen to the bionic as its basically an atrix with less RAM and a larger screen
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The atrix boot loader is signed not encrypted
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Good News!!! And I definitely want the Bionic because the Thunderbolt is essentially the Evo 4g with less battery but more ram(768mb vs 512mb). It also is essentially the same thing as the Droid Incredible, but with 512mb vs 768mb of ram.
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Good News!!! And I definitely want the Bionic because the Thunderbolt is essentially the Evo 4g with less battery but more ram(768mb vs 512mb). It also is essentially the same thing as the Droid Incredible, but with 512mb vs 768mb of ram.
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not really as the signed partitions and the bootloader is essentially checked each boot
devs are working to see if we can bypass it or something....but at least it isn't encrypted which gives the devs a slightly higher chance of finding a fix vs having the bootloader encrypted
Not to get get off topic but I wish the root population was larger. Then when motorola does encrypt their phones then it's not like the lesser 5% of the phone purchasers being upset about it. Me getting this phone depends on if it's unlocked or not. I have friends all the time ask me to root their phone. I have a few friends that run custom roms that I put on. Not one of them has had a problem(knock on wood) I don't see a big risk in rooting and flashing custom roms, especially with how easy it is nowadays. That's my 2 cents
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not really as the signed partitions and the bootloader is essentially checked each boot
devs are working to see if we can bypass it or something....but at least it isn't encrypted which gives the devs a slightly higher chance of finding a fix vs having the bootloader encrypted
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I know that, but it's better news than if it was encrypted and/or had something similar to an e-Fuse, and that's what I meant in good news. I knew it wouldn't be the same as a Nexus S or Nexus One (which are Dev friendly), but my Eris had a bootloader (S-On) which so far as I can see is the same as a signed bootloader (correct me if I'm wrong). Hopefully, it'll just be a couple of weeks/months to crack it but (knock on wood) at least we won't be stuck with the situation Droid X owners have.
Also, unrelated note, but I played with a friends Atrix 4G for about 30 minutes, and a couple things......
Good
1. Fast as hell! (In apps, games, typing, etc) Very lag free! (see below)
2. In game, incredibly smooth and great looking screen. Better than other friend's Droid Incredible, and colors look nearly as good as my old Zune HD.
Bad
1. Home screen lags quite badly. My friend had lots of apps on desktop and though the Live wallpaper and app drawer were smooth, switching left to right was laggy.... Very nitpicky but annoying.
Overall, I still want the phone (more than before), and want Cyanogenmod on this thing badly!
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Good News!!! And I definitely want the Bionic because the Thunderbolt is essentially the Evo 4g with less battery but more ram(768mb vs 512mb). It also is essentially the same thing as the Droid Incredible, but with 512mb vs 768mb of ram.
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Not really, the thunderbolt has a new generation snapdragon, between that and the extra ram, and better video processor, it's actually WAY faster than an Evo 4G. Out of the box quadrant scores are around 1975, and general performance is really much better than an Evo in every way. (not saying it's faster than a bionic obviously, but it definitely isn't the same thing as an Evo).
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Not really, the thunderbolt has a new generation snapdragon, between that and the extra ram, and better video processor, it's actually WAY faster than an Evo 4G. Out of the box quadrant scores are around 1975, and general performance is really much better than an Evo in every way. (not saying it's faster than a bionic obviously, but it definitely isn't the same thing as an Evo).
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Thanks for clarifying. When I looked to check facts for the comparison, it only said 1 ghz Snapdragon, so I assumed the same CPU/GPU as the first gen.
still the tegra 2 is a faster processor ... otherwise its more of a wait and see...
I have decided to wait for the bionic instead of getting the thunderbolt... unless the tb comes out tomorrow... but that is very unlikly.
im so sick of seeing people compare the evo to the thunderbolt, first things first, LTE is better than WiMAX. Second of all the processor arent even close, and you know on the evo if you use a task killer, it might have 250mb or RAM free, when you do it on the bolt, you will have overmb free, it will never lag. ever. and the only time it will fall behind the bionic or atrix is gaming, thats it
So, I will have an upgrade coming up in june, and will be giving my dad my captivate in exchange for him buying me a new phone. I was just wondering what everybody's thoughts were on either the Infuse 4g or the SGSII?
That 4.5 inch screen on the infuse looks mighty fine, but I feel like I might want to wait for the SGSII. Any thoughts? I just don't know if the wait for the SGSII is worth it, although I can see myself holding out quite a while now that I'm running gingerbread goodness.
And please don't talk about other phones. I wouldn't buy an atrix if my life depended on it, and I would rather keep my captivate than go with the htc inspire. I just don't see myself ever going away from the SAMOLED displays that I have grown to love thanks to my cappy, and SAMOLED+ will only fuel my addiction.
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If you can only get one. Wait for the SGS2
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If you can only get one. Wait for the SGS2
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This. It's exactly what I'm going to do.
Herp derp Captivate XDA Premium.
SGS2 without a doubt, we're talking dual core vs single core, older processor vs new processor, one gig ram vs 512MB ram, froyo vs gingerbread, the list goes on and on.
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SGS2 without a doubt, we're talking dual core vs single core, older processor vs new processor, one gig ram vs 512MB ram, froyo vs gingerbread, the list goes on and on.
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Very true. The Infuse is a very appealing option, but I'm definitely putting the SGSII on top of my list right now. I just hope they drop a release date soon, so I know exactly how long I will be waiting. If the release date is too far out I might have to go with the infuse, then use my dad's upgrade when the SGSII eventually drops. FCC approval is teasing me like none other.
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I think the only thing you get with the Infuse is a slightly larger screen - if that means something to you.
Infuse = 4.5", SGS2 = 4.3"
Both use SAMOLED2 so the quality should be equal.
I'm holding out for the SGS II also.
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I've used droids from Motorola, Dell and now Samsung for at least a few months each and I've got to say I'm VERY impressed with Samsung's customizations to the Android OS. Things like the power controls in the notification bar, multiple lock screens, having an option to text someone right after hanging up and lots of other little modifications have made Samsung my new favorite for Android phones.
After spending as much time as I did trying to get the resource hogging Motoblur off my Backflip and simply ignoring the StageUI that Dell uses, it's refreshing to see modifications that are actually useful being added to Android.
Almost every custom rom image I've seen for the cappy includes touchwiz modifications, which is really saying something when hackers could easily remove it.
I've never used an HTC which is the only other brand I'm interested in trying, but I'm really impressed with Samsung's work, they have my loyalty.
sgs II is way better in my opinion...
the only thing about infuse is the 4.5 inch screen but 0.2 in doesnt really matter...
and SGSII has a better processor, better almost everything.
Just wait to see what At&t does. and the price can change your decision
but i recommend that you wait till SgsII comes out and then decide
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sgs II is way better in my opinion...
the only thing about infuse is the 4.5 inch screen but 0.2 in doesnt really matter...
and SGSII has a better processor, better almost everything.
Just wait to see what At&t does. and the price can change your decision
but i recommend that you wait till SgsII comes out and then decide
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Yeah, I definitely want the SGSII, and price isn't really a determining factor. I bought my Cappy at full retail because apple screwed up my iphone 3g with their ****ty software which made it laggy as hell. Good phone for my mom, but I couldn't take it any longer. As a result, my dad will be taking my captivate and buying me whatever phone I want once I am able to upgrade in June, as I will be able to get the new contact price. I just hope AT&T doesn't drag their feet with getting the SGSII to market.
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SGSII
yeah sgs2 is definately the best phone right now, man cant wait till rogers gets it, I HOPE
SGSII
I will probably get the SGSII as long as it has a properly working GPS and Flash
(cant believe they didnt add a flash to my cappy )
Ok, so my dad had to use my phone to tether his laptop this weekend, and wants to make the switch soon as a result. So it looks like I have to choose between the Inspire or the Infuse...don't have time to wait for the SGSII unfortunately. What are peoples thoughts on those two? I definitely like samoled displays, so the infuse is a bit more appealing, I just want to know if you guys think the inspire had anything going for it that should make me reconsider it?
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Ok, so my dad had to use my phone to tether his laptop this weekend, and wants to make the switch soon as a result. So it looks like I have to choose between the Inspire or the Infuse...don't have time to wait for the SGSII unfortunately. What are peoples thoughts on those two? I definitely like samoled displays, so the infuse is a bit more appealing, I just want to know if you guys think the inspire had anything going for it that should make me reconsider it?
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if it is between the infuse and inspire the infuse has some advantages but the price in hard to justify unless you use the hd playback. in which case the infuse has the only true 1080p hd playback that i know of. other than that the infuse makes video calls, inspire doesnt. the infuse is great but the specs are very close to the inspire and the size might be too much for some people, it is almost comical really.
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if it is between the infuse and inspire the infuse has some advantages but the price in hard to justify unless you use the hd playback. in which case the infuse has the only true 1080p hd playback that i know of. other than that the infuse makes video calls, inspire doesnt. the infuse is great but the specs are very close to the inspire and the size might be too much for some people, it is almost comical really.
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Weight difference also. The HTC is heavy~.
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Weight difference also. The HTC is heavy~.
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very true but the infuse feels flimsy, there is no sense of quality, on the other hand i have opened up an evo and dont think much of htc's design principles either.
if it werent for the captivates less than stellar gps (not to say mine is bad, just not stellar) lower amount of ram and the shutdown issue that not every user is going to be able to fix i would say it was the most practical and best built android phone on att. but there are design flaws.
SGSII or something better. I wouldn't waste my time with the Infuse.
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Like I said before, price isn't an issue. Size isn't either, as I have large hands, and being a 6'2" 260 lb guy means my pockets aren't lacking in size either. My captivate still feels small. Also, I wish I could wait for the SGSII, but that isn't happening anymore. I'll probably end up going with the Infuse, because I love samoled displays, and though it's still single core, the 1.2 ghz in the Infuse beats the 1 ghz in the inspire. I suppose being able to side load apps from the get go is a big plus too.
I just hope the dev community shows the infuse even a fraction of the love they've shown the captivate.
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I will probably get the SGSII as long as it has a properly working GPS and Flash
(cant believe they didnt add a flash to my cappy )
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if your talking about a camera flash i hear you but if your talking about the browser ad on then really... there is an official update for both the rogers AND at&t versions of the captivate as well as pleanty of guides to get 2.2 and even 2.3 unofficially once you have on of those go to the market and simply search flash and install it.
keep my Bionic or return it for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus?
it looks like an awesome phone but without the SD card I'm not sure if you can root it and install a custom ROM.
does anyone know if you can, or how good of a development community past phones like this have had.
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yes you should
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yes you should
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My established bias against Samsung mobile products, in combination with the lack of an SD card slot or HDMI output, lead me to say "meh".
I do like me some vanilla Android, but the probability is high that the Bionic will have AOSP-flavored ICS by the middle of next year, while the Nexus... will still have a Samsung radio baseband.
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My established bias against Samsung mobile products, in combination with the lack of an SD card slot or HDMI output, lead me to say "meh".
I do like me some vanilla Android, but the probability is high that the Bionic will have AOSP-flavored ICS by the middle of next year, while the Nexus... will still have a Samsung radio baseband.
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You know what. I like you. I completely agree.
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I'm happier with my Bionic than I expected to be after yesterday. Given that right now, the Bionic is still the only phone out there with 48 (possible) GB of space and an extended battery, the bionic is still holding its own
what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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Keep the bionic it'll have ICS soon enough and you can flash custom roms without the sd card.
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also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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That's the SIM card slot. You don't need an SD card to install a custom ROM. But you do need one to keep your application backups in a safe place. An SD card gives you a lot of flexibility for moving multimedia on/off your phone. Could I live without it...yeah, there are plenty of work arounds. Would I want to live without it, no.
I think it comes down to how you want to use the phone. Personally I like the docks available for the Bionic. I have the car dock and the HD dock and they were some of the reasons I waited to get the Bionic over the Tbolt....and I really really like HTC.
What matters most to you when when you're looking at a phone? Screen size, color saturation, thinness, battery life? Make a list of those factors, then objectively rank each phone on those factors, tally up the score and voila, you've figured out which phone is best for you.
The bootloader in the nexus is unlocked already
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what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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In total, over the past year, I have used seven Galaxy S based phones, including a Captivate, two Fascinates, and four Droid Charges. I experienced:
Numerous and persistent issues with their radio software on every single phone, to the point where I would be missing texts and calls on a regular basis. Plus, the signal quality never matched phones I had with Qualcomm basebands, and the Charge in particular would lose 4g data (or data altogether) on an alarmingly regular basis. GPS issues that persisted on every phone- the Charge, as a whole, was the best, but it still took 30 seconds to lock with quarter-mile inaccuracies at times- compared to the Bionic or my old Incredible with 3-second pinpoint locks.
The other issue is with their customizations of Android, which are almost always unpolished and rushed. This won't be an issue on a Google Experience phone, but the radio issues alone are enough to put me off of buying Samsungs until they figure out they should be buying their basebands from Qualcomm like everyone else.
I'll wait for the Anandtech review and some in depth specs about who actually makes the hardware to make a final decision- there's a possibility that they are really doing things right with this phone- but I will take a lot of convincing.
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Numerous and persistent issues with their radio software on every single phone, to the point where I would be missing texts and calls on a regular basis. Plus, the signal quality never matched phones I had with Qualcomm basebands, and the Charge in particular would lose 4g data (or data altogether) on an alarmingly regular basis
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My Charge had these issues as well, as does my brother's, and my best friend's, and almost anyone I sell a Samsung phone to (I work in retail). I am a bit concerned with Samsung's baseband capabilities, but iirc with the Nexus series, the hardware is all Samsung and the software is all Google. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's always been my impression.
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what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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My bias is the same as the previous comments, Samsung and LG have horrible radios, Motorola has the best. The galaxy nexus isn't enough to get me to consider another pos Samsung phone, but if that note comes to Verizon I'd be tempted by that 5.3" screen.
Your asking if you should get a galaxy nexus or bionic. In a bionic forum? I have a bionic. But the nexus is a superior phone. HD AMOLED, bigger screen
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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I loled. Samsung makes sexy looking products for sure! If they work like they're supposed to , that's a different story. Also no external SD card = fail. Srsly ppl main thing this phone has over the bionic is just ICS. 200 mhz oh noes! HD super amoled 1280 x 720 yes it's a beautiful screen. But if I want to ohh ahh at graphics i'll watch **** on my 2 x 30 inch monitor setup at home . Lagfree camera cause I totally need to snap picture after picture on my phone 8). I'm sure the bionic can do it with the proper software derp. Ah Android always making people rage at their current device cause of minor hardware bumps. Hopefully ICS will set things right and fix what's really problematic, the software!
Display is garbage gen 1 just like I said.
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Display is garbage gen 1 just like I said.
http://tinyurl.com/3e59ffz
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Wrong article G, but I know what you're talking about. The "minus" one?
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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Seriously??!! Why would you think that?
Based on every other smart phone I have dealt with at launch, the end users are typically beta testers.
Just wait; I predict that there will be plenty of Nexus issues for all.
RMD
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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They never work out all the kinks. Thats why we have a development community. They usually work more kinks out than the manufacturers.
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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not able to switch kernels at the moment, radios can be flashed but once you do it you risk being off the ota path since Moto wants to be *****es about it
you can overclock to 1.2 ghz, but it's not worth it imo since the gains aren't that noticeable
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not able to switch kernels at the moment, radios can be flashed but once you do it you risk being off the ota path since Moto wants to be *****es about it
you can overclock to 1.2 ghz, but it's not worth it imo since the gains aren't that noticeable
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hmm.. i guess you're right there. when i overclock this Nexus, it improves the 'benchmark scores' a bit but actual system performance doesn't seem to change at all. i think i'm gonna check out this dude's Bionic & make sure everything checks out ok(esn especially) & go from there.
Damn that's a good deal. I say do it.
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That is a damn good deal.
I have both devices and the Bionic is superior to the Gnex is many important ways, like radio performance and battery life, to name to big ones.
Then there is Webtop, which is a very cool and unique feature of Motorola devices.
ICS is very slick and the Gnex is a very enjoyable device to use but definitely suffers from some pretty severe issues and shortcomings.
Your buddy is nuts! That is a ridiculous deal and you could probably make money even reselling it.
cellzealot can attest to it - a lot of people have been testing long and hard, and he and P3 have summed up a lot of info from the forums and from personal testing to give a nearly bulletproof method of putting you back on the OTA upgrade path even if you decide to take a walk on the wild side.
I was *****ing and moaning 6 months ago about a locked bootloader, and then I started looking at the hardware - and I realized that this thing really is a diamond in the rough. Now, I couldn't be happier.
6 months from now when ICS is pushing to our phones, you're going to be amazed at the capabilities of this device.
Also, think about it - Motorola almost always has really good chips - and they developed the LTE chip in the BIONIC in house. I'm betting on that chip. And I think they are too, because if it turns into an eventual success, then they'll have a template on how to start developing other chips as well, and thereby have a nearly proprietary device within 10 years, is my guess.
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I have both devices and the Bionic is superior to the Gnex is many important ways, like radio performance and battery life, to name to big ones.
Then there is Webtop, which is a very cool and unique feature of Motorola devices.
ICS is very slick and the Gnex is a very enjoyable device to use but definitely suffers from some pretty severe issues and shortcomings.
Your buddy is nuts! That is a ridiculous deal and you could probably make money even reselling it.
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BTW, I'm quoting this post over at AF lol
I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Bionic...The bionic is my daily driver (I use the micro sim with an adapter so I can switch between the two.)
I was ready to throw my Bionic out the window a short while ago, but since I've been on a rooted .901 there is no going back to the nexus!
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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I will personally take you a new Bionic with case and holster right now. Pm me <MOD EDIT>. Thanks
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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That sounds like one hell of a deal, I'd go for it. The full 5.5.893 stock restore fastboot files just leaked so restoring is no problem, I just used it myself.
I've been dealing with the Android OS battery life drain bug ever since I applied the last update and I'm hopeful reflashing the stock image fixed it but otherwise I love my Bionic and it'll only get better once the ICS update becomes available.
What you mean I didn't know the galaxy nexus uses a micro sim card
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I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Bionic...The bionic is my daily driver (I use the micro sim with an adapter so I can switch between the two.)
I was ready to throw my Bionic out the window a short while ago, but since I've been on a rooted .901 there is no going back to the nexus!
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What you mean I didn't know the galaxy nexus uses a micro sim card
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He said hes got an adapter....
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The Galaxy Nexus does use a micro SIM...you need the adapter to put the microSIM back into the Bionic. I cut my Bionic SIM down to fit the Gnex and cut another old SIM to be an adapter to use in the Bionic. Works great.
All new lte phones will be micro sim
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So guys I'm tired of this failure of a phone so I thought it was about time to try something better. The Verizon reps have only offered me the Dinc2 thus far until I requested about the Droid 3 which they agreed to.
All I want to know is your opinion on the device. Mainly about the roms n tweaks you have. Coming from the Droid X2 we only have about two roms, and ICS would be nice to try out, how functional is it? And how is your satisfaction with this phone before and after root?
The locked boot loader definitely has hindered it but Hash has done amazing. This is a solid phone.
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My bigger complain is that there is only 512mb of ram, and that isn't really enough.
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I never have any RAM issues but I don't use the bloated stock ROM. Of course ICS runs beautifully.
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The Droid X2 has only 512mb of ram and a locked bootloader as well. Except the daul-core uses 100mb so only a total of 404 is available, is that the same with the omap processor? And X2 only has gotten as far as unofficial buggy cm7. /:
Hows the screen? Is a 4' qHD less pixely than my 4.3'?
Get Dinc 2 if you don't need physical keyboard.
It is going to get ICS officially and has 756MB of RAM.
Issue with D3 is that ICS is not officially confirmed, which means all the current bugs with ICS roms MAY not be resolved due to kernel issues.
DInc2 was actually enjoyable to use, D3 is just OK.
IMHO, dual core is over hyped.
Well I'm thinking in the long run IF D3 gets ics officially then the daul core will be a significantly better than single core Dinc. I love the more ram but I want the security of having a daul-core.
Try using both for a while at Verizon.
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Dual core vs 1 gig of ram... both nice to have but both are still a gimmick... i havent seen many apps that will chew up my ~400 megs (think its cloer to 230 with the system up) and with android reclaiming ram its never an issue, same with dual core, no software needs it (name something that uses it), and if it "does" try locking a core with setcpu or something and run it. Anything I've found runs the same w/1 1ghz core vs 2 1ghz cores. Maybe there isnt any software out there demaninding enough to make dual core useful? I personally would ask about htc or samsung phones trying to avoid moto
The physical keyboard is nice. And if you load a custom ROM of course it runs fine. The only reason I kill apps is because of battery.
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The guy basically just gave me an upgrade to any phone using a loophole that apparently gets me unlimited 4g. I'm looking at the Razr because of its $100 price unlike the Rezound (my favorite) which is $200.
I think the only difference is 4G between us and the RAZR. I mean the RAM and CPU speeds are different a bit but oh well.
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I'd say the keyboard is the deciding factor not whether it has dual core or 768MB ram
I agree with WP. If you bought the Droid 3 for any reason other then the keyboard, you bought the wrong phone.
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I am now getting the Rexound.
Thank you for all your help.