Hi everyone i tried searching but didn't come up with anything. I'm considering purchasing an unlocked nexus one on amazon and I'm not sure if its a tmobile or att version I have tmobile as my provider if i were to get an att version would i still get 3g access? I know if it was the opposite i there would be no access for 3g on att.
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I believe t-mobile's 3g is 2100mhz, which means the atnt one should work on the network.
I'd get a second opinion though, I'm more knowledgeable on Australian networks than US ones.
Ok thank you for the input, if anyone could confirm this that would b great.
The devices are completely independent of one another in regards to 3G. Cross network compatability only extends to Edge services.
Someone jump in and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that T-Mobile 3G requires both the 1900 and 2100 frequencies to work (up & down link).
Rod3 is correct the at&t version will not work on t-mo and the t-mo version will not work on at&t, in respect to the 3G that is you will still get edge either way.
Although as far as the both 1900MHz and 2100MHz I'm not sure about that but it's possible, anyone care to add some info.
EDIT: Just Googled it and it's 1900MHz for 2G and 1700MHz/2100MHz for 3G encase anyone is interested.
Dude, thanks for the correction. I knew there were 2 frequencies for 3G and I just picked one off the top of my head. Now that I think about it, yeah 850 and 1900 were for 2G.
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Hello everyone! I'm wondering will this device work with AT&T service since it's just a triband phone, and, afaik, AT&T uses 850MHz as their primary frequency for GSM calls (depends on location) in NYC area.
Coverage maps are here:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
Specifically the 1900Mhz map is here and you can zoom in to your area and see: http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=us&net=be
[You can probably also find them some place on the AT&T website.]
Be aware tho that the diamond only does 3G at 900/2100, but AT&T use 850/1900. That means you won't be able to use 3G capabilities on AT&T anywhere.
I would either wait for the american version, or buy the 2G one they're selling in india for ~200$ less.
Thanks, man! Maybe i'll look at T-Mobile plans, looks like device will work with them
Well looking at the page it looks like T-Mobile have even less 1900 coverage (GSM). I don't know their current 3G situation, but they will be/are using 1700Mhz for 3G, which the diamond can't handle either
Has anyone been able to connect to Tmobile's USA 3G network in Dallas TX? Anywhere else in the US? Any settings need to be changed?
Search is good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417121
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403539
Search???? But it is some much better for the community to ask the question before searching.
Please close thread.
Before you start flaming, I suggest you read the question. Since you can search, I assume you can read...
The original question was about this service in Dallas TX, which according to multiple sources, the service was just launched on August 27.
Most posts available on Tmobile's 3G state the service is on the 1700 MHz (which the kaiser is not capable). However there are a few people that have stated it might also be in the 2100MHz band.
It is also possible that the Kaise is capable to hook to the 1700MHz band but not enabled by the radio rom. Take the Diamond for example, it was not supposed to support the 850MHz band...
Since Dallas service just started, it is possible 2100MHz is available.
Has anyone been able to prove Tmobile's 3G service is up an running IN DALLAS?
I stand corrected, kind sir. I jumped to a conclusion and was ignorant of the facts related to your specific part of the world. I am sorry.
Did you call TMobile customer service and ask the question? So none of the search results gave you any help. I guess wait and see if you get a reply. Good luck.
3g with tilt ?
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jayizzbakk said:
3g with tilt ?
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I just got 3G here in little old York, Pa. I guess I don't understand your question?
I think what he wants to know if 3g data will work with an at&T branded tilt on tmobile U.S. and if so I would like to know how it compares to the edge network they were using
i think T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 and one band is for uplink and the other is for downlink.
unlike AT&T or Rogers who can use 850 and 1900 independantly for uplink or downlink.
first of all, tmobile sim cards are not 3G compatbile, therefore even the correct settings probably wont pick up any 3G signal...keep in mind that tmobile never updated simcards since its voicestream transition...i remember when AT&T went 3G, they had to issue 3G enabled sim cards....
And my Tilt has a 3G SIM but it's an ATT SIM.
you cant get on tmobiles network with an att sim
Ok, I know this is an odd question but I am confident it can be answered here.
I want to buy another android phone, it needs to be something fairly recent that ATT still stocks at least online if not at the stores so I can use an upgrade.
And I want to be able to also use the TMO 3G system/frequencies with it.
I know the unlocked Captivate won't work on the TMO 3G system but does anyone know if any other phones have the proper radios to support both ATT and TMO frequencies when I swap out the sim card?
Just to reply to my own thread, after an hour or so of searching its looking like ATT phones currently available do not have the required 1700hz band that is needed for TMO 3G speeds.
I am hopingIi am wrong here and that someone knows otherwise.
I did find a few references to some TMO phones working on ATT bands but those obviously wont help me if I am trying to use an upgrade discount.
I was only searching current ATT phones so if someone knows of an older version let me know too.
Well I would recommend finding more concrete evidence on what freq Tmo has in your area and try this before buying but for example (acording to phonearena) Tmobile's Galaxy S 2 runs GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 same as ATT"s Galaxy S 2 (not skyrocket). TMO's Galaxy S runs UMTS 1700/2100, 2100 mhz. ATT's Galaxy S 2 (not skyrocket) runs umts 850, 1900, 2100 mhz. Meaning its possible to get edge, 3g and HSPA+ on att's Galaxy S 2 (not skyrocket) on Tmo. But That would depend on your area and how Tmo uses the different freq.
Edit: Its just an example but you can check more phones to see if any of them have overlapping frequencies.
So maybe there is hope.
I was under the impression that TMO needed 1700/2100 for 3G in my area as one was an upload and the other a download frequency.
What I did was pull up all the Android ATT phones I was currently eligible for and then typed the name into the xda search bar followed by 'tmobile'. That would usually take me to a thread in which someone was asking if that phone would also work on TMO 3G and it was invariably replied that they would only work on Edge with a TMO sim card.
I didnt check the GS2 or the Skyrocket though. I will do that today. Thanks for the reply. I knew there would be xda members out there that would have a better idea than me of how to find out.
I will do you a favor and check both of my gs2's with my wife's T-Mobile sim tonight.
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Pirateghost said:
I will do you a favor and check both of my gs2's with my wife's T-Mobile sim tonight.
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Cool! Thank you.
A bit more research on xda says that there are some TMO phones ( Defy and Amaze 4G ) that work on the ATT 3G bands. That doesn't really help me much though. LOL.
FireRaider said:
Cool! Thank you.
A bit more research on xda says that there are some TMO phones ( Defy and Amaze 4G ) that work on the ATT 3G bands. That doesn't really help me much though. LOL.
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i wouldnt put much hope into it. you might get lucky in that the skyrocket works on TMo, but its doubtful. i have never seen an AT&T phone work on Tmo's 3g
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i wouldnt put much hope into it. you might get lucky in that the skyrocket works on TMo, but its doubtful. i have never seen an AT&T phone work on Tmo's 3g
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Skyrocket won't work. It doesn't have UMTS 2100 (Skyrocket runs on 850, 1900). The "Attain" (none lte) might because it has 2100.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299211
This thread says we are out off luck on this quest.
What I said. It might depending on the area. If where the OP lives Tmo uses the UMTS 2100mhz then he is lucky else he is SOL.
Edit: after finishing reading IF the phone uses 1700 for dl and 2100 for ul then ya tough luck D=
Title says it all, is it possible now that we have S-off?
I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
I personally think it would be better to make it into an international version for timely updates.... I've been wanting to do this as well...
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I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
rican408 said:
I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
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Nope, when T-Mobile rolled it out they skipped Jacksonville Florida
All one versions have the same hadware! It's just a matter of enabling/disabling a certain radio in the device
Sent from the one and only HTC One
AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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That's what I thought I read elsewhere
what he said above. TMO versions can pick up 3G AWS since most of their network is on that band. ATT doesnt use that band only 1900 for 3G, but since TMO has only started refarming old 2G 1900mhz signal to 3G signal only certain places will recieve 3G signal for TMO on the ATT HTC one.
So far i havent heard of anyone breaking into the radio portions and adjusting the bands. i think people are still a bit sketchy on whether that will work or not. its a pretty big gamble.
your best option is maybe find someone who has the TMO version and wants an international version. and trade?
I have the AT&T One. T-Mobile was sold out and I wanted it the day it was released so I just bought the AT&T One at Best Buy. I have AT&T LTE but I was wanting to use T-Mobile because I have unlimited on that line. I never get 3G though, only HSPA which is weird, or maybe not idk
So without thinking I bought a Nokia Lumia 920 for AT&T off of Ebay.
Now after doing some research I see I may not be able to get 3G/4G.
So I have two things to ask, would flashing another rom on my device help? (I really don't think it will but i'm going to ask to be safe)
Or is there anyway to get 3G/4G working without having to buy a new phone -_-
T-Mobile obtained a bunch of bandwidth that AT&T was going to use, after the failed acquisition attempt. They've used that to roll out network coverage for AT&T's phones, as part of their plan to encourage people to switch. It's not as *extensive* of coverage as T-Mobile's native bands, but it's not terrible. You probably can't get LTE, but you can get 3G and HSPA+ (what TMoUS often calls 4G, especially before they had their own LTE).
I know I get 4G and LTE on T-Mobile using an AT&T 920, but I think LTE only works in certain refarmed areas that use the right frequency. HSPA+ (4G) and 3G appear every once in while and work as well.
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T-Mobile obtained a bunch of bandwidth that AT&T was going to use, after the failed acquisition attempt. They've used that to roll out network coverage for AT&T's phones, as part of their plan to encourage people to switch. It's not as *extensive* of coverage as T-Mobile's native bands, but it's not terrible. You probably can't get LTE, but you can get 3G and HSPA+ (what TMoUS often calls 4G, especially before they had their own LTE).
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I can deal with that, I know back in the day when i unlocked my wife's Iphone 4 it could only get edge. but I was not sure if that problem was just because well it was an Iphone.
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I know I get 4G and LTE on T-Mobile using an AT&T 920, but I think LTE only works in certain refarmed areas that use the right frequency. HSPA+ (4G) and 3G appear every once in while and work as well.
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sweet thanks for the info.
Yeah, old iPhones used AT&T's frequencies for 3G and T-Mobile uses different frequencies, so you couldn't use 3G. That's not much of a problem anymore, though; even phones that don't support T-Mobile's main bands can use their re-farmed AT&T bandwidth.
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So without thinking I bought a Nokia Lumia 920 for AT&T off of Ebay.
Now after doing some research I see I may not be able to get 3G/4G.
So I have two things to ask, would flashing another rom on my device help? (I really don't think it will but i'm going to ask to be safe)
Or is there anyway to get 3G/4G working without having to buy a new phone -_-
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T-Mobile refers to it as refarming; that is assuming you have coverage and that's a big if for many of us who are rural and you live in a town big enough to have it then if you're using an AT&T device subsidy unlocked or locked then you will be able to access HSPA+ and I'm not kidding when I say it's fast, faster than both AT&T and Verizon Wireless in Auburn-Opelika, AL and Columbus, GA where I hail from. HSPA+ is not a LTE or 4G technology so it will run on both AT&T and T-Mobile's 1900 band...if AT&T it's HSPA+ everywhere and where T-Mobile has refarmed 1900; it's 3G or 3.5G there too. Otherwise, it's 2G and I can safely tell you it sucks once you've enjoyed HSPA+ and worse T-Mobile has next to no coverage in many places outside most big cities and that's the wrap with T-Mobile.