This is a guide of how I have managed to massively extend my battery-life on the Optimus 2x. I personally use instant messaging like whatsapp and talk, and everybody should where possible, so I don't believe in turning off data during the day to save battery (sms is so 1999)! This are my recommendations to tune your battery-life from unacceptable to at least acceptable times (1 workday with quite high usage).
Items found to work especially well on the Optimus 2x P990
Use WiFi whenever you can, but disable when there are no networks you can join
- 3G seems to be by far the biggest drainer of battery-life, and WiFi idle seems to consume very, very little power. Make sure WiFi is *not* disabled when the screen turns off. Make sure to switch it off when you're not able to use a WiFi network however, to stop it scanning.
Set Network-Type to GSM (auto)
- Use the default dialer and select *#*#4636#*#*, select phone information and select GSM auto (PRL). Still allows for hsdpa data, not the maximum highest speed, but still quick enough for usage and extend battery life of some networks massively. If you want to be even more agressive, turn it to 2g only, but I find this too slow for casual surfing or internet usage, but if you only need it for instant messaging it should be good enough.
Disable gestures and orientation sensing
- Disable the specific gestures in the gestures menu and disable orientation by the button on the notification bar. Spare parts detects minutes of activity of the sensors during normal usage where it's not actually needed, so simply disable it when not using it from the notification bar (which is easy to do without switching apps anyway).
Make ABSOLUTELY sure your RIL matches your baseband
This is crucial. Without a matching RIL file (lge-ril.so in /system/lib) is ok, otherwise you will have a massive drain and problems with networks disconnecting all the time. Use LG GetRIl in the market to fix this if you cannot do it manually.
Check if your MicroSD card is detected when installed!
- I have issues sometimes with my MicroSD card being plugged in but not deteced, which causes my MicroSD card to become very hot, and my battery to empty in 3/4 hours completely. Reboot or remove and reinstall when it happens. Generally try to keep your phone keep as cool as possible, hot temperatures will decrease your battery-life.
Conventional and standard items for Android phones:
Check partial-wake usage in Spare Parts to find fauly apps!
- Check once in a while if there are any dodgy apps keeping your phone awake, causing your idle power consumption to be pretty bad!
Discharge your phone in a pattern of 100% to 20% and recharge
- Keeping cycles like this where possible, especially just after resetting battery statistics or installing a new rom, will eventually mean your battery will stay better for a longer period and you will notice your battery-life should be ok.
Make sure the minimum number of apps are running as services
- Go to Applications, Active services and find which unused apps you can disable.
Turn off Wireless Network Location if you are not using it
- Go to Location and Security, and disable use wireless networks.
Make sure not to use a task killer, especially not with automatic killing
- Sometime a taskkiller can be good to stop a app that hangs or causes issues, but make sure to not make it a default practice. To optimize battery usage, please tune the min/max of free memory managed by Android subsystem itself. Download Minfreemanager from the market, and set empty app to 96mb and content provider to 64mb and make it stick after reboots. This should make sure your phone will not slow down after a while of usage and enough inactive/idle apps are closed in the background.
Set Facebook / Twitter sync to once every 2 hours or more
- Make sure you don't let your phone sync that often, better to update it manually when you want to see it instead of syncing that often. Especially with Twitter having push now your direct messages will still turn up instantly even with slow synctimes for non-direct messages.
Watch out with Picasa sync
- Great feature, but dangerous since if it decides to start syncing when you are not on WiFi with bad reception, since it will mean it will sync potentially for a long time, destroying battery-life unexpectedly. There should be an option to sync this only on 80%+ battery only on WiFi but there isn't any, unfortunately.
Disable Google Latitude in Maps if not used
- If you need a longer battery-life, make sure you tell Latitude in Google Maps to not update your location (also see the point of network location), and make sure you sign out of it as well (so it doesn't update in the background if you are not using it).
I will update this and looking for good suggestions, please let me know especially about network-type GSM auto (PRL) and if it makes the same huge difference on your side. Also, another note, I am using 0405 baseband since I find best battery-life bundled with the RIL from a Vodafone Spain 0405 RIL as shared here.
Good luck improving your battery-life!
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I will update this and looking for good suggestions, please let me know especially about network-type GSM auto (PRL) and if it makes the same huge difference on your side.
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Im trying it out, but just an observation, the setting goes back to WCDMA prefered when you reboot the phone. Any way to make it stick?
Just shut down the phone and restarted and setting has not returned to WCDMA preferred on mcr fr19 but stayed on GSM auto (prl).
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I think that if you tick 2G only on and off again it will go back to WCDMA Preferred.
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I think that if you tick 2G only on and off again it will go back to WCDMA Preferred.
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mine definitely does not stick and i havent toggled 2G or anything else...
Thanks for the advice, seems to have done the trick for me. There seems to be very little speed difference with GSM auto set, I'm sure the improvement in battery life will compensate for the decrease in speed
Just restarted the phone and the network was reset to wcdma preferred
However good tutorial
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Make sure not to use a task killer, especially not with automatic killing
- Sometime a taskkiller can be good to stop a app that hangs or causes issues, but make sure to not make it a default practice. To optimize battery usage, please tune the min/max of free memory managed by Android subsystem itself. Download Minfreemanager from the market, and set empty app to 96mb and content provider to 64mb and make it stick after reboots. This should make sure your phone will not slow down after a while of usage and enough inactive/idle apps are closed in the background.
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It's not saving. Goes back to old values.
Click on menu button and choose save and apply at reboot.
Not sure why the wcdma settings keep being restored for others. Are you guys using cm7 or stock/mcr?
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Click on menu button and choose save and apply at reboot.
Not sure why the wcdma settings keep being restored for others. Are you guys using cm7 or stock/mcr?
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CM7 (Well MIUI, but it's based on CM7). It's very annoying.
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Click on menu button and choose save and apply at reboot.
Not sure why the wcdma settings keep being restored for others. Are you guys using cm7 or stock/mcr?
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CM7 (Well MIUI, but it's based on CM7). It's very annoying.
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For the ones having the problem that wcdma settings keep being restored, just enble 2g radio only first, from the wireless menu. Later repeat the indicated steps and reboot. Did the trick for me.
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For the ones having the problem that wcdma settings keep being restored, just enble 2g radio only first, from the wireless menu. Later repeat the indicated steps and reboot. Did the trick for me.
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sounds excellent! hope somebody can come back with any input on GSM auto (PRL) experiences, for me it really improved battery-life with a couple of hours.
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[*]Make ABSOLUTELY sure your RIL matches your baseband
This is crucial. Without a matching RIL file (lge-ril.so in /system/lib) is ok, otherwise you will have a massive drain and problems with networks disconnecting all the time. Use LG GetRIl in the market to fix this if you cannot do it manually.
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I agree with you in all points - except for this one! I could not believe it myself but it has turned out that I get the best battery life on my O2x using this combination:
- MoDaCo FR19
- Baseband 0530
- RIL 0622
Baseband 0622, which is actually recommended for FR19, was horrible for me regarding battery life! I was surprised to see this non-matching combination provide a far better experience! Also, no problems with connectivity or call quality whatsoever. I'm on Vodafone Germany, for what it's worth.
Interesting. Do you see any dialer wake in spare parts at all? I notice I recently got android system playing up quite a lot, no idea what is causing it :-(
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Yes, I see the Dialer show up in Partial Wake Usage. It's on first or second place, but the blue bar is not very long though, maybe 3-4 mm.
Dialer usage seems to increase after 3-4 days of uptime, strangely...
This was missed in the original post so let me add my two cents worth.
To save even more battery, I would as well, advise paying some attention to screen brightness and wallpaper/theme selection.
In my experience, you can save 20 to 30 mAh by turning off Auto Brightness and setting it to something lower. The auto brightness control in O2X is overly bright and dismal in its operation. It barely changes in response to varying light conditions.
For this, you need an automation app called Tasker, or something similar. I use Tasker to control all manner of things including all the network situations mentioned in the first post of this thread. For saving battery in relation to screen brightness, I use Tasker to set screen brightness to 70 during the day, and to turn it down to 50 during the night. You can adjust these to your own preferences. But, as mentioned above, running these values saves me about 20 to 30 mAh of power when the screen is on.
In general, selecting darker wallpapers and themes will also help you save some power. Many messaging and email apps, for example, will give you a choice of a dark or light theme. If they do, I always choose a dark theme to ensure minimal power consumption.
My two cents worth
abwyatt said:
This was missed in the original post so let me add my two cents worth.
To save even more battery, I would as well, advise paying some attention to screen brightness and wallpaper/theme selection.
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Not a bad point, thanks. I am using a low manual brightness, is there maybe a brightness bar widget so you can tune it manuallly directly from a homescreen? That would be great.
And of course you must be crazy to use live wallpapers. Why would you want to make your battery last shorter and your homescreen slower and more annoying to look at?
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Not a bad point, thanks. I am using a low manual brightness, is there maybe a brightness bar widget so you can tune it manuallly directly from a homescreen? That would be great.
And of course you must be crazy to use live wallpapers. Why would you want to make your battery last shorter and your homescreen slower and more annoying to look at?
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Yeah, good additional point that I missed about the live-wallpapers
I use a small app called Quick Settings which installs in the pull-down notification screen to quickly adjust screen brightness if I need to override the auto settings I set in Tasker.
PS. You might want to update your first post with the info about controlling screen brightness since many users are ignorant of the default auto-brightness setting, AND your post is very useful and I see it being referred to as a solution quite often. I was made aware of this thread from way over at Modaco. Good work!
Hope the moderators will stick this thread to the top of the forum.
I thought dark wallpapers are more needed for devices with amoled displays. 2x has got a lcd am i right?
Dont know if it that important for it then...
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Yeah, good additional point that I missed about the live-wallpapers
PS. You might want to update your first post with the info about controlling screen brightness since many users are ignorant of the default auto-brightness setting, AND your post is very useful and I see it being referred to as a solution quite often. I was made aware of this thread from way over at Modaco. Good work!
Hope the moderators will stick this thread to the top of the forum.
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I will update it soon. Where did you see it referenced on MoDaCo?
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I thought dark wallpapers are more needed for devices with amoled displays. 2x has got a lcd am i right?
Dont know if it that important for it then...
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Yes, correct. But nobody said we should use one in this topic, we only discussed live wallpapers
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Guys, how can I increase the battery's life. I mean if I have to change rom's, delete system programs or so... I want the battery life to be longer cuz after a day and a half the battery goes off Any ideas or tweaks to increase performance and in this way to increase the battery life ?
Btw this is my Xperia X1 system information:
ROM version: SEX1-r3.57-Bare
Rom date: 06/20/09
Radio version: 1.06.25.29
Protocol version: 52.43.25.24U
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Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also sry for my bad English Hope you understood me what I want to say...
google: nueDynamicClock
That's good I'll try it. Other tweaks or hints ?!
Turn down your display brightness. Get counseling.
ring-bearer said:
Turn down your display brightness. Get counseling.
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Sry about the question but how to do that :S Cuz I'm newbie with the Xperia X1 (I bought it yesterday) ..
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Sry about the question but how to do that :S Cuz I'm newbie with the Xperia X1 (I bought it yesterday) ..
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Check and see if your phone as Advanced Configuration Tool. If not, go to my signature and click on "X1 Stuff" and download it from there.
Go to Start>Tools>Tweaks>Advanced Config
Power Management
Make sure everything from SDD Memory power Management to L2TP is enabled. Save. Soft-Restart.
That should help reduce power consumption, BUT it also depends on what programs you have running in the background and how you use your phone.
Another program that helps reduce the power management your phone is running in the background is HTC's Clean Ram which can be found in my signature under "X1 Stuff".
Im Packing said:
Check and see if your phone as Advanced Configuration Tool. If not, go to my signature and click on "X1 Stuff" and download it from there.
Go to Start>Tools>Tweaks>Advanced Config
Power Management
Make sure everything from SDD Memory power Management to L2TP is enabled. Save. Soft-Restart.
That should help reduce power consumption, BUT it also depends on what programs you have running in the background and how you use your phone.
Another program that helps reduce the power management your phone is running in the background is HTC's Clean Ram which can be found in my signature under "X1 Stuff".
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10x a lot man ... Other suggestions ?!
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10x a lot man ... Other suggestions ?!
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sure...
- use 3G only if you need it (i.e. for surfing)
- WiFi is very power-hungry, bluetooth too
- get nueDynamicClock
- close apps completely and not just press the "x", they'll be running in background. (for example, skype stays connected in background -> active data -> eats up battery)
- manila-roms are more power-hungry (you're on a bare-rom already, so that's no problem)
- deactivate any automatic data-traffic you don't need (weather-update, mail-checking etc...)
but: if you're using this phone to its full potential, you'll have to charge almost every night - welcome to smartphone world. if your battery hasn't degraded yet (they do over time), you'll be way over 50% in the evening, but it won't be enough for a full second day.
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many people claim that an established data-connection eats up battery. from a technical point-of-view that's not true and i haven't noticed any difference when deactivating data completely.
you have do differentiate between "active" and "passive" connection.
- an active means "data is being transferred" (mail, surfing) -> this needs energy (3G/WiFi way more than GSM).
- passive means the phone will just say "hi, i'm still here" to the server from time to time to keep the connection alive. of course this needs energy as well, but almost nothing.
I use my phone only for calls and rarely to establish connections with the wifi to a server to configure some things.
- use 3G only if you need it (i.e. for surfing)
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I dont use it at all
- WiFi is very power-hungry, bluetooth too
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As I said I use it rarely
- get nueDynamicClock
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This is the only thing from the listed so far that I haven't installed yet on my X1. As far as I know this thing changes the clock speed of the CPU so if I install it how to configure it ?! What's the recomended CPU clock speed to run my X1 normally ?!
- close apps completely and not just press the "x", they'll be running in background. (for example, skype stays connected in background -> active data -> eats up battery)
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I do this always and after close any applications always check the Task manager and sometimes even my ActiveSync is switched on and I use "End task" to end it's process too.
- deactivate any automatic data-traffic you don't need (weather-update, mail-checking etc...)
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The weather-update is off but the mail-checking I dont know from where to switch it off ?! I'm newbie I bought my Xperia 2 days ago ..
But after all my battery goes off after about 36 hours ... ?!
nueDynamicClock:
you got it right what it does. install the cab and then restart your phone. under settings -> system you'll find a new icon, "Processor".
- set "on battery profile" to "Power Savings"
- click "File" and go to "Configure Profiles"
- choose "Power Savings" (surprise...)
- activate all settings and leave voltages on "Auto".
- from top to bottom set these 4 speed-settings: 528, 384, 256 & 122.88 MHz.
- set "after system is idle for" to 10000 ms
- "ok", "save" and you're done.
these settings save power but don't cause any freezes or lagging.
auto-mailcheck:
it's in pocket outlook under tools -> options. there choose your account(s) and change the send/receive-schedule to manually.
also, if you have set your screen-brightness manually by now, it will still remain a big battery-eater, this will never change. and since you're probably playing with your phone a lot since it's new, this won't get better.
you say you use it to make calls - well, depends on how long and how many...
is the phone brandnew? then give the battery some discharge/load-cycles to achieve it's full potential. if it's a used one then the battery is possibly already worn down -> new one.
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also, if you have set your screen-brightness manually by now, it will still remain a big battery-eater, this will never change. and since you're probably playing with your phone a lot since it's new, this won't get better.
you say you use it to make calls - well, depends on how long and how many...
is the phone brandnew? then give the battery some discharge/load-cycles to achieve it's full potential. if it's a used one then the battery is possibly already worn down -> new one.
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That was I asking about how to change the screen brightness ?! :S And are you sure in this way of cycle-clocking the processor isn't it's life reduced ?!
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That was I asking about how to change the screen brightness ?! :S And are you sure in this way of cycle-clocking the processor isn't it's life reduced ?!
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yes, it's safe. because you're underclocking, not overclocking. if you undclock too much or set voltages too low you would end up with freezes or - absolutely worst case - corrupted data. this would mean a hardreset of the phone. (that's not dangerous for the phone, just annoying because you loose every data you haven't in a backup... ^^)
screen-settings:
also found in settings -> system -> power.
that's why it is called "settings"...
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screen-settings:
also found in settings -> system -> power.
that's why it is called "settings"...
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Yes but there aren't any brightness settings for the screen.I've tried everywhere in the settings menu mainly in:
settings > system > power
settings > system > screen
but there aren't any brightness settings for the display only to turn it off if I dont use the phone for x seconds (found in system > power)
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Yes but there aren't any brightness settings for the screen.I've tried everywhere in the settings menu mainly in:
settings > system > power
settings > system > screen
but there aren't any brightness settings for the display only to turn it off if I dont use the phone for x seconds (found in system > power)
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should be, look for "brightness" in power-settings. maybe on a different tab?
i can't help you here because i'm running a sense-rom where this setting looks a bit different.
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I dont use it at all
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Even if you don't use 3G, you still have to turn it off or it'll keep eating power.
Maybe you have "Auto-adjust backlight" checked, that's why you can't adjust brightness. uncheck it then move the slider for battery mode all the way to (or maybe 1 notch from) the left.
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Even if you don't use 3G, you still have to turn it off or it'll keep eating power.
Maybe you have "Auto-adjust backlight" checked, that's why you can't adjust brightness. uncheck it then move the slider for battery mode all the way to (or maybe 1 notch from) the left.
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How can I switch the 3G off I've searched for that too but couldn't find it. As for the brightness thanks a lot man !
addicted2sex said:
How can I switch the 3G off I've searched for that too but couldn't find it. As for the brightness thanks a lot man !
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to turn off all data connections, use this cab
does nuedynamicclock work for X2? and would i use the same settings caliban?
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How can I switch the 3G off I've searched for that too but couldn't find it. As for the brightness thanks a lot man !
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Depends on the ROM you're using. If you have Manila, there's a toggle switch for it at comm manager. If not, you can use the Advanced Config Manager app (download it from the applications subforum). Or there's a way to change it manually somewhere buried in the settings menu.
The brightness issue is more important, as the large, bright screen eats up a lot of power. Glad to hear you found it. The 3G thing is only a big issue if you have a spotty 3G signal and your phone keeps switching back and forth from GPRS/EDGE to 3G and to HSPDA
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The 3G thing is only a big issue if you have a spotty 3G signal and your phone keeps switching back and forth from GPRS/EDGE to 3G and to HSPDA
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that's the biggest issue with 3g, yes.
but even if you have a steady 3g-signal, using your phone (calls, data) costs more energy than with gsm. again, it's "active" and "passive": in standby gsm and 3g use almost the same amount of battery, but i.e. during a call (=active) 3g needs ~50% more. (that goes for all phones)
Hi guys! We have had reports of the app having issues controlling the wifi scanner and background data schedules on some devices.
We really need testers with root (but its not necessary if you just want to test the wifi scanner).
You can get some info on the app below. But what we really need is some testing! You can download it for free and then try using the wifi scanner and intervals, as well as the background data schedules.
If you find your device has issues, click "Write to us" to send logs. Please make sure you describe which issues you have - scanner or background data!
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Wireless Power Chief
Wireless Chief is an application designed to control the wifi and data radios in your device, as well as many related functions like background data and autosync.
It can be used to save power or minimize data usage, and works either by reading the screen state, the battery state or on a completely custom schedule.
All data and sync options require root access. There is no other may to manipulate the radios.
Features:
- Turn features on or off depending on screen state
- Disable wifi if no known network is available
- Change wifi scan intervals and scan attempts
- Schedule autosync and background data
- Force autosync on wifi only
- Disable wireless radio features according to battery level
- Watched active download state, disabling the service until a download completes
If you have any issues, please leave comments in this thread or better yet use the "Write to us" dialog in the application's settings.
Versions:
Locked: All Screen state options are free
Unlocked: Full functionality, including Battery and Scheduled profiles
Market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.wirechief
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sounds neat .. will give it a shot ...
Did you have a chance to test as described above?
I've purchased the app and have been testing it for a about a week with root access enabled.
Currently using only the screen profiles since working with multiple profiles enabled seems to overwrite my screen profile settings. It would be nice to have some more options like for example only using the scheduler settings when the screen is OFF, this way I could use both.
I'm currently having a lot of problems with the app though which is making it not as useful as it could be.
Biggest problem would probably be that the app loses focus after a while. It just stops working all together until I reopen the app, then it works fine again for a while before I have to repeat the procedure. Similar apps use a notification in the status bar to keep the app alive, maybe this could fix it?
Another big problem I've come across is some weird behavior with syncing. First I had my "Screen Off" profile set to "Sync Disabled" and "Screen On" "Sync Enabled". This would result in my phone starting to sync as soon as my screen would get turned on. I noticed similar behavior with setting it to "scheduled". So now I just disabled sync on all profiles because this is costing my almost as much battery as the app is saving.
I've also noticed some issues when I spent a long time configuring the settings. For example yesterday I was testing some different configurations. I then got to playing with the "Activation times" for enabling or disabling wifi/data and when I set it to 30 seconds it would still use the previously set 0 seconds value. I then cleared app data from Android application settings, set the value to 30 seconds again and it would work. This is a minor issue because I will probably just set these once and not fiddle around with it anymore.
I will continue testing for now but if the first 2 problems remain I will have to fall back to using Easy Battery Saver app. I would love to keep using the Chief though, I really like the concept.
I'm using a SGS2 running on CheckRom RevoHD6 (GB2.3.6), tried different kernels with similar results (stock, neak, redpill). Also wiped my phone and did a reinstall of CheckRom but also this didn't help.
If you need more details on my testing let me know.
Hello,
I bought this one hoping it would do what I wish... But now I am not quite sure.
I just want an application that toggles on/keeps it for a while/toggles off autosync in given periods. Yes, this program can do it but I am unable to prevent it to switch my Wifi on.
Wifi checkboxes are unchecked, only scheduled autosync state is set as I wish. But it keeps turning Wifi on while I am at home, I can't override it off manually.
Hi, I've just downloaded this, I'll try it out as much as I can tomorrow. Hopefully if this conserves battery well enough I'll want to keep this phone more
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What happened...Any testing still goin on?
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Hi, I've just downloaded this, I'll try it out as much as I can tomorrow. Hopefully if this conserves battery well enough I'll want to keep this phone more
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Just saw this app...looks like it may be making a comeback with some new developers. I just DL it and am in the process of testing it out... will post some results soon...
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
denis1304 said:
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
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Settings - Screen - Set screen timeout to 30 minutes or something, It's not smart to keep 3G - Wifi online, as it will wake your phone from deep sleep and It won't even last 1 day like that.
You gotta find a kernel with no deep sleep support.Also why do you want your 3G to be on while screen is off? Thats nonsene.Most of the apps that use your 3G would keep your phone from locking the screen, so your phone wouldn't enter deepsleep and they could resume downloading.If you wanna save battery by locking the screen, just turn the brightness down.
Try to delete bloatwares, that increased my battery life from 1 day to 2 days, with moderate usage.Try using some different kernels also.
Whats your purpose locking the screen while 3G is on? WiFi hotspot or something?
denis1304 said:
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
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by default, your 3g should stay on when you turn the screen off/lock it, if they're enabled. you only need to do some things if you DONT want it on when your screen is off.
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Also why do you want your 3G to be on while screen is off? Thats nonsene.
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Background services? Push notifications? It makes much sense (are you sure what you're talking about?). But on the other hand: if there are apps requiring network for such purposes, they usually take care themselves for this requesting corresponding wakelocks from time to time (background services). Just push notifications work differently, but here the core system should take care.
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Most of the apps that use your 3G would keep your phone from locking the screen,
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That's plain nonsense. Though they could do so (e.g. requesting a full wakelock), they usually don't. Want an example? Ever heard the chime for a new mail having arrived, as you set your mail client to poll at certain intervals? I've never seen the screen turning on for new mail polls. But admitted, I'm not constantly staring at the screen
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If you wanna save battery by locking the screen, just turn the brightness down.
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Guess you didn't read the question? Denis explicitly wrote: I don't care about power saving. So sorry, but you completely miss the point. No offense meant, thoug :angel:
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Background services? Push notifications? It makes much sense (are you sure what you're talking about?). But on the other hand: if there are apps requiring network for such purposes, they usually take care themselves for this requesting corresponding wakelocks from time to time (background services). Just push notifications work differently, but here the core system should take care.
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You wouldn't receive emails 24/7, turning 3G on once an hour or two is enough to check notifications.You wouldn't notice any notifications until you turn on the screen anyway.
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Guess you didn't read the question? Denis explicitly wrote: I don't care about power saving. So sorry, but you completely miss the point. No offense meant, thoug :angel:
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Nope, I just didn't get what he means.He should try to be more specific.His question is short and simple, no one can do anything without knowing what he is trying to do.Theres multiple solutions to a problem mostly and he is just focused on one of them.Keeping screen on 24/7 is not a solution.He should try to use third party apps, some should have options to notify him in some way, It's just nonsense to keep screen on 24/7.
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That's plain nonsense. Though they could do so (e.g. requesting a full wakelock), they usually don't. Want an example? Ever heard the chime for a new mail having arrived, as you set your mail client to poll at certain intervals? I've never seen the screen turning on for new mail polls. But admitted, I'm not constantly staring at the screen
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Thats a different story, I was talking about foreground apps, not background...
Also dude, waste your energy on helping the OP.Instead of commenting on others posts.
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You wouldn't receive emails 24/7, turning 3G on once an hour or two is enough to check notifications.You wouldn't notice any notifications until you turn on the screen anyway.
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Wrong again. I hear a chime (new mail notification sound), and then I maybe turn on the screen to look what it was.
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Keeping screen on 24/7 is not a solution.He should try to use third party apps, some should have options to notify him in some way, It's just nonsense to keep screen on 24/7.
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Again, that was not what he asked:
denis1304 said:
how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
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(emphasis mine). He didn't ask for the screen being on, but for the connection. While for 3G, to my knowledge that's the case anyway (as @Flying_Bear already pointed out), this is different for WiFi depending on the settings (WiFi standby policy).
@denis1304: In WiFi settings, you can configure this in the advanced menu.
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Also dude, waste your energy on helping the OP.Instead of commenting on others posts.
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Hello again
Let me explain on example what's that I want from my phone if it's possible.
I use app MightyText or MySMS and while on WiFi it works instantly but if on 3G and phone screen is off for some time, sending SMS start to lag and you need to wait for 10 or 15 minutes for SMS to go through.
Or when I want to install app from my PC over play website its takes also 10 to 15 minutes to start installing app.
While on wifi it takes much less time or start instantly.
Hopefully I explained what I want so you can help me or I expect too much.
Thank you, Denis
While this won't help much: In both cases you mentioned, you are actively performing a task. So you could simply switch on the screen to speed up the action. I've no idea how to do that in a different way automatically, at the moment at least.
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Wrong again. I hear a chime (new mail notification sound), and then I maybe turn on the screen to look what it was.
Again, that was not what he asked:
(emphasis mine). He didn't ask for the screen being on, but for the connection. While for 3G, to my knowledge that's the case anyway (as @Flying_Bear already pointed out), this is different for WiFi depending on the settings (WiFi standby policy).
@denis1304: In WiFi settings, you can configure this in the advanced menu.
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Nice quotes...
In both cases, turning on the screen and 3G once an hour is enough.
Turning the brightness down could save him from locking the screen, that was my point.
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Again, that was not what he asked:
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It is what he exactly asked.He wants his phone to keep 3G - Wifi online while screen is locked.So keeping the screen on wouldn't be a solution, and a third party app could help.
Well, good thing you actually tried to help OP with a few words.You could do that before instead of arguing with me.XDA is no such place, if your commenting on some troubleshooting topic, you should focus on OP.Correct anything I write wrong, BUT focus on OP's question first, thats your priority.
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You should try JuiceDefender, I know it's actually a battery saver, but I remember it had some options to sync stuff even while screen is locked.You can set how often it syncs, or turns on the Wifi or 3G to perform such tasks.
I just noticed these issues today usage no different from the past weeks. 1st is I noticed battery drained really quickly with no indication. 2nd is music the equilizer would not work. Idk if the 2nd one deals with the whole ram management issue but it does come back and it's like it's turned half way down
Lots of threads in the forums re: battery drain. For me, my biggest hitters were (1) the stock email app sync and (2) wifi scanning.
I'd suggest going into stock email app settings if you use it and turn sync to manual long enouh to see if it has an impact and make sure your wifi's always allow scanning is unchecked. Then do some reading imto other causes people are niting.
oh, and android 101: shut off location when ur not using it.
Not sure about the EQ but I thought it only works with the stock music app.
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Lots of threads in the forums re: battery drain. For me, my biggest hitters were (1) the stock email app sync and (2) wifi scanning.
I'd suggest going into stock email app settings if you use it and turn sync to manual long enouh to see if it has an impact and make sure your wifi's always allow scanning is unchecked. Then do some reading imto other causes people are niting.
oh, and android 101: shut off location when ur not using it.
Not sure about the EQ but I thought it only works with the stock music app.
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Also, use an automation app such as Tasker to control syncing, wifi, etc.
Yea it didn't die on me today which is good. Will try that tasker
My biggest battery drain was with Google wallet, specifically the NFC Tap & Pay. It's almost as if the Wallet app gets an exclusive hold on the NFC radio & doesn't let go... Finally had to just turn off the NFC radio & the battery drain is much better. .
I have a 300mbps DL and 20+ upload and a 5ghz modem. My s5 has no problem showing 100-200mbps on the speed test app, but my s6 is barely hitting 80mbps. But in real life situations its less then 1mbps. There will be long periods of time for Pandora to load the next song without skipping as well as overall growing the internet is slow. I'm outside my 14 days so I'm hoping its a bug. And that damned screen rotation issue.... My battery has been stellar. But I don't text much or make too many calls from it.
Does anyone experience any problems with this setting on 4.1.3? On my phone if i switch it off it sometimes switches itself back on. It also seems to close down apps without notifying me. They are just greyed out and cannot be cleared or removed. (Podcast republic and swipe). Those two apps are also the reason i want it switched off as they stop functioning properly if on.
It seems to be linked to the power saving auto rotate switch-off bug as it tends to happen most of the time when the auto rotate isn't switched on again when i charge the phone. Anyone else experiencing this?
Phone is not rooted and run on stock rom
Lol everybody learning how to set up the new power savers that the development community has been using since the days of ics.
1st problem sounds like you ambient display enabled which will turn on your phone every time you receive some sort of notification. To fix this simply go into your settings, display and turn off ambient display and don't get it confused with adaptive brightness.
2nd problem to me sounds like you have aggressive doze mode active on all your apps or auto close high power apps. To fix this just go to settings, battery, click the 3 dots next to the refresh symbol near the top right corner, click aggressive doze..., if it's turned on make sure the slider is not enabled next to the apps you desire, hit the back button, click on the 3 dots top right corner again, click on high power usage apps, turn it off if it's on.
These battery savers in the Android os are basically hacked and slashed from development on xda. Greenify did most of these functions alone then if you were to mash greenify with power nap you basically got yourself aggressive doze with closing of high usage apps.
Sadly Google is still behind the curve as the power saver app on my Asus Zenfone 2 does a better job at saving power on lollipop because in addition to hibernating and closing apps it allowed you to turn off networks allowing only phone, sms, and alarm to work after the device is asleep and enabled upon waking or you could do super saving which did the same thing except the network stays disabled the whole time boosting standby time from 92 hrs to 105 hrs
Seriously though the best course of action here if this does not help you is to contact the developer of the app and tell them the issues your having, your device and a detailed log report and you will see better results faster because it's probably just an incompatibility due to the new os as apps always have issues with fresh out of the gate os systems and your might not be the only person with this issue but you just might be the only person to point it out for a long time.
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Lol everybody learning how to set up the new power savers that the development community has been using since the days of ics.
1st problem sounds like you ambient display enabled which will turn on your phone every time you receive some sort of notification. To fix this simply go into your settings, display and turn off ambient display and don't get it confused with adaptive brightness.
2nd problem to me sounds like you have aggressive doze mode active on all your apps or auto close high power apps. To fix this just go to settings, battery, click the 3 dots next to the refresh symbol near the top right corner, click aggressive doze..., if it's turned on make sure the slider is not enabled next to the apps you desire, hit the back button, click on the 3 dots top right corner again, click on high power usage apps, turn it off if it's on.
These battery savers in the Android os are basically hacked and slashed from development on xda. Greenify did most of these functions alone then if you were to mash greenify with power nap you basically got yourself aggressive doze with closing of high usage apps.
Sadly Google is still behind the curve as the power saver app on my Asus Zenfone 2 does a better job at saving power on lollipop because in addition to hibernating and closing apps it allowed you to turn off networks allowing only phone, sms, and alarm to work after the device is asleep and enabled upon waking or you could do super saving which did the same thing except the network stays disabled the whole time boosting standby time from 92 hrs to 105 hrs
Seriously though the best course of action here if this does not help you is to contact the developer of the app and tell them the issues your having, your device and a detailed log report and you will see better results faster because it's probably just an incompatibility due to the new os as apps always have issues with fresh out of the gate os systems and your might not be the only person with this issue but you just might be the only person to point it out for a long time.
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A) ambient screen is off already
B) already done that but the apps work better if battery optimisation is on for them than off. They really misbehave if not optimised.
How do I produce the logs? Checking under the specific app under apps doesn't seem to have an app log option.
Eggstones said:
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A) ambient screen is off already
B) already done that but the apps work better if battery optimisation is on for them than off. They really misbehave if not optimised.
How do I produce the logs? Checking under the specific app under apps doesn't seem to have an app log option.
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Grab a catlog off of the play store they are fairly simple to figure out and they are free. I can't remember for sure but I believe I liked logcat the best as it provided a better ui with a more detailed and easier to read log.
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Eggstones said:
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A) ambient screen is off already
B) already done that but the apps work better if battery optimisation is on for them than off. They really misbehave if not optimised.
How do I produce the logs? Checking under the specific app under apps doesn't seem to have an app log option.
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That's weird that it keeps turning back on hopefully it's not a hardware issue. Most likely due to a rogue incompatible app. Also if you haven't already done so check for an update and make sure you have the latest version and if that don't work the last thing I could think of to try would be to download the latest update and put it on your phone somewhere you can remember, reboot into recovery and erase your cache and perform a factory reset followed by another cache wipe just to be sure. Then select install update from zip file, navigate to it's directory and open it, allow it install the update and after it completely has finished booting don't use it but keep the screen from turning off for about 2 minutes
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Sorry I can't be of more help to you but I just got my phone today and I'm on the oos 4.1.3 and mine is doing just fine so far but I don't sync mail, push notifications, or use any social media which drain your battery like a hooker with your bank account. So far I'm at 10+ hrs uptime with 4 hrs of sot sitting at 66% battery life with an estimated 20 hrs left.
hope you find your problem or at least know where you got take your issue to which will be discovered in your cat log so you will know if it's the apps, kernels, os or hardware that is to blame and be able to address it to the proper source.
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