I don't get the crazy foaming at the mouth hype for the upcoming iPhone5 Unless I am missing something, it still is still very much going to be like the iPhone4, which was like the iPhone3, rinse and repeat...The iPhone1 was way cool and bad ass, but Apple seemed to stop innovation after that.
I am a very happy Nexus-S owner, but there are some really cool phones due out this Fall to be excited about. Windows Mango running on a Samsung Galaxy S II hardware device will be uber cool And the Nexus-Three with the all new next gen Android OS "Ice Cream" will also be awesome.
To me the iPhone needs major changes to get back into the game. Still just a screen full of app icons Ok they finally added a notification bar, about time. What about widgets ? Or total customization out of the box, without a jailbreak ? How about a 4.3" AMOLED screen ? I don't know, but to me the last few iPhone releases don't look radically different, just more of the same, with a few old tweaks added.
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I don't get the crazy foaming at the mouth hype for the upcoming iPhone5 Unless I am missing something, it still is still very much going to be like the iPhone4, which was like the iPhone3, rinse and repeat...The iPhone1 was way cool and bad ass, but Apple seemed to stop innovation after that.
I am a very happy Nexus-S owner, but there are some really cool phones due out this Fall to be excited about. Windows Mango running on a Samsung Galaxy S II hardware device will be uber cool And the Nexus-Three with the all new next gen Android OS "Ice Cream" will also be awesome.
To me the iPhone needs major changes to get back into the game. Still just a screen full of app icons Ok they finally added a notification bar, about time. What about widgets ? Or total customization out of the box, without a jailbreak ? How about a 4.3" AMOLED screen ? I don't know, but to me the last few iPhone releases don't look radically different, just more of the same, with a few old tweaks added.
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Apple is never going to take those requests and put them into a phone.
Let me explain how apple works.
1. Buy parts from other manufacturers
2. Built electronics using cheaply bought parts (not knocking build quality)
3. Sell updated electronic from first ever design at an extremely high price
4. Profit from all the fanboys raving over the same device only with minor changes
LET THE TROLLING BEGIN! ;D
Zorachus said:
I don't get the crazy foaming at the mouth hype for the upcoming iPhone5 Unless I am missing something, it still is still very much going to be like the iPhone4, which was like the iPhone3, rinse and repeat...The iPhone1 was way cool and bad ass, but Apple seemed to stop innovation after that.
I am a very happy Nexus-S owner, but there are some really cool phones due out this Fall to be excited about. Windows Mango running on a Samsung Galaxy S II hardware device will be uber cool And the Nexus-Three with the all new next gen Android OS "Ice Cream" will also be awesome.
To me the iPhone needs major changes to get back into the game. Still just a screen full of app icons Ok they finally added a notification bar, about time. What about widgets ? Or total customization out of the box, without a jailbreak ? How about a 4.3" AMOLED screen ? I don't know, but to me the last few iPhone releases don't look radically different, just more of the same, with a few old tweaks added.
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I watched an Apple keynote about the iPhone 5 and showing the improvements and all. Before I saw the demonstration I thought the iPhone 5 would be like a whole new OS. After the demonstration it was the same tired old thing. I have an iPhone 4 and appreciate it for its simplicity and reliability and quality. But it is a tired system. Apple truly needs to move on to something new and fresh.
By the way, I love my Nexus S also. Just an excellent phone.
Your logic is sound more or less. But I could gurantee if apple released the iphone 5 that was exactly like the iphone 4 with only a cornea display as improvement, they would have the same if not more people buying the phone. When it comes to marketing, apple knows what they are doing.
They could sell someone a spoon for $10.
It would be nice to see something revolutionary spec wise like sgs2 from apple, it would warrent the pricing.
Of course the iPhone5 will have upgraded hardware, but based on the past four iPhone releases, the iPhone1 and iPhone4 are NOT radically different to the average joe blow, minor updates to the same tired OS. My sister-in-law, a huge tech geek, still uses her iPhone1 she bought in 2007, she sees no reason to upgrade to a new iPhone4, which doesn't look that much different to her. And she uses Mac Book Air's, and a MAC computer, etc...
I myself have owned the iPhone1 and iPhone3G, they were the greatest things ever back then, then a year after the 3G was getting stale and old to me, I saw the Nexus-One and never looked back, loving my rooted and custom ROM'd Nexus-S now, and looking forward to a Samsung WinMo 7 Mango phone on a Galaxy S II device or the Nexus-Three this Fall.
MIUI is proof positive that Android is superior
Loved the sex appeal of both phones I have owned but..... I got an ATRIX... will never return to iOS
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. I have an iPhone 4 and appreciate it for its simplicity and reliability and quality.
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after the constant irritation of having my leo for over a year, and reading the complaints of so many newer phones, I am considering an iphone.
I've flashed, hacked, ruined, and revived my hd2 numerous times, now I am burned out with playing around...i want honest reliability and a phone that simply WORKS dangit.
Not to mention the abuse for asking noob questions of hotheaded smart mouth xda members with "experience from the gods" who post everywhere with the same insulting "you're an idiot noob" type responses.
Look, I'm 38, married' business owner with 5 terrific kids...gimme a break already I'm not young with endless time and a bottomless wallet...just help out that's all.
Thank goodness for operation iron fist eh?
so, to answer the op, i might be.
neener neener.
p.s. i do not like the religious nature of apple fanboys however i am not gonna need to ask noob questions with an iphone, so they won't be a problem...
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after the constant irritation of having my leo for over a year, and reading the complaints of so many newer phones, I am considering an iphone.
I've flashed, hacked, ruined, and revived my hd2 numerous times, now I am burned out with playing around...i want honest reliability and a phone that simply WORKS dangit.
Not to mention the abuse for asking noob questions of hotheaded smart mouth xda members with "experience from the gods" who post everywhere with the same insulting "you're an idiot noob" type responses.
Look, I'm 38, married' business owner with 5 terrific kids...gimme a break already I'm not young with endless time and a bottomless wallet...just help out that's all.
Thank goodness for operation iron fist eh?
so, to answer the op, i might be.
neener neener.
p.s. i do not like the religious nature of apple fanboys however i am not gonna need to ask noob questions with an iphone, so they won't be a problem...
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Certainly sorry to hear android users give u such a hard time. Not that im taking up for them but over at the x10 forums I can see the same question asked on the same page 3 times with the answer in a post above, lmao. They are just frustrated that and ur chosen name prolly didnt help LOL
But by all means try an iphone and tell us about the experience or maybe even take a look at some reviews or read the forums of some android devices before going for the buy.
kidrythm said:
after the constant irritation of having my leo for over a year, and reading the complaints of so many newer phones, I am considering an iphone.
I've flashed, hacked, ruined, and revived my hd2 numerous times, now I am burned out with playing around...i want honest reliability and a phone that simply WORKS dangit.
Not to mention the abuse for asking noob questions of hotheaded smart mouth xda members with "experience from the gods" who post everywhere with the same insulting "you're an idiot noob" type responses.
Look, I'm 38, married' business owner with 5 terrific kids...gimme a break already I'm not young with endless time and a bottomless wallet...just help out that's all.
Thank goodness for operation iron fist eh?
so, to answer the op, i might be.
neener neener.
p.s. i do not like the religious nature of apple fanboys however i am not gonna need to ask noob questions with an iphone, so they won't be a problem...
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I understand you very well about the responses people get here in XDA. Mainly it comes from young people who don't really have much life experience. But I've learned to let it roll off my shoulder.
The iPhone does indeed just work. It's super reliable as long as you don't jailbreak it. But the Nexus S is Google's iPhone and is better, in my opinion, that than the iPhone for all-around usability. Just don't customize with different ROMs. You can root for the sole purpose of using certain apps that require root, and I did that to mine. But I didn't allow the process to retain the custom recovery image and I let it return to the OEM recovery image then relocked it. I have a Nexus S that is completely stock in every way but is rooted to let me use root apps, which is all I care about in rooting.
The iPhone has a simpler video calling interface than the Nexus S. But once you get the right app set up on the Nexus, it is pretty much super simple. Oh...and the iPhone can't be beat for battery life. It's purely amazing how long the battery lasts on my iPhone 4. That is something Android can't compete with. The BL of Android is just generally horrendous. The NS isn't too bad, though, once you run through a few charge/discharge cycles.
kidrythm said:
after the constant irritation of having my leo for over a year, and reading the complaints of so many newer phones, I am considering an iphone.
I've flashed, hacked, ruined, and revived my hd2 numerous times, now I am burned out with playing around...i want honest reliability and a phone that simply WORKS dangit.
Not to mention the abuse for asking noob questions of hotheaded smart mouth xda members with "experience from the gods" who post everywhere with the same insulting "you're an idiot noob" type responses.
Look, I'm 38, married' business owner with 5 terrific kids...gimme a break already I'm not young with endless time and a bottomless wallet...just help out that's all.
Thank goodness for operation iron fist eh?
so, to answer the op, i might be.
neener neener.
p.s. i do not like the religious nature of apple fanboys however i am not gonna need to ask noob questions with an iphone, so they won't be a problem...
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Flash to stock for stability and wait for updates? :shrugs:
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kidrythm said:
after the constant irritation of having my leo for over a year, and reading the complaints of so many newer phones, I am considering an iphone.
I've flashed, hacked, ruined, and revived my hd2 numerous times, now I am burned out with playing around...i want honest reliability and a phone that simply WORKS dangit.
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I've gone from iphone 2g to my first android SGS2..
The iphone has their fair share of issues with firmware and updates. Once you start to mod and flash that thing, you're going to encounter the same issues you encountered with the Android.
If you want something that works out of the box, you have to just resist modding it..
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Flash to stock for stability and wait for updates? :shrugs:
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+1
I was pretty close to shipping the thing to mskip with funding to execute his protocol for nandroid...lol.
thinking over it, i despise apple, have since the eighties and with the new crowd of hipster d00ds ugh (i skipped sxsw).
no iphone for me...
just my 2 cents going out there...
I do love my android, it amazes me with what it can do and I learn to do new things all the time. it really grows on you. I love android, but iOS stole my soul haha. I think its the fact of having an iPhone, the "bandwagon" everyone is on, the "revolutionary" aspect, isn't very revolutionary. I'd say close to 50%? of us have 8 MP cameras, but if the iPhone 5 or 4G has one, everyone will think its the most amazing thing ever.
I have this discussion a lot with my friend, we both came from iOS, hundreds of jailbreaks, bricked devices, DFU mode nightmares, the whole nine yards. he went to windows, I'm on android. the latest we've done is build custom hackintoshes, so we dual boot OS X and win7, and I always find myself using apple... I supose its the simplicity of it and the fact that its so well known, the fact that there isn't 200 different devices. an iPhone is an iPhone, in a way it is revolutionary no matter what they seem to do, and I admit eventually I will go back to it for college, buy a Mac book air. they speak for themselves, and IMHO, I don't think apple will ever be less than number 1...
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Let me start by saying i am not a fanboy or a hater or anythign of those sorts. I respect what each os brings to the table. I use android and that is all i will use for the fact of customization and that i can do wateva the f*** i want to it. I have never been a fan of crapple products but i absolutely love the release of a new iPhone for 2 main reasons. The first is that, everytime apple releases a product, google releases their newest state-of-the-art product. Secondly, it gives me another chance to show my friends that my phone is still better than theirs.
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Let me start by saying i am not a fanboy or a hater or anythign of those sorts. I respect what each os brings to the table. I use android and that is all i will use for the fact of customization and that i can do wateva the f*** i want to it. I have never been a fan of crapple products but i absolutely love the release of a new iPhone for 2 main reasons. The first is that, everytime apple releases a product, google releases their newest state-of-the-art product. Secondly, it gives me another chance to show my friends that my phone is still better than theirs.
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LOL yeah. Wait till your friend brags and shows off his new iPhone5 like its the second coming and then you pull out the new Nexus-Prime and he just cries in shame.
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Zorachus said:
I don't get the crazy foaming at the mouth hype for the upcoming iPhone5 Unless I am missing something, it still is still very much going to be like the iPhone4, which was like the iPhone3, rinse and repeat...The iPhone1 was way cool and bad ass, but Apple seemed to stop innovation after that.
I am a very happy Nexus-S owner, but there are some really cool phones due out this Fall to be excited about. Windows Mango running on a Samsung Galaxy S II hardware device will be uber cool And the Nexus-Three with the all new next gen Android OS "Ice Cream" will also be awesome.
To me the iPhone needs major changes to get back into the game. Still just a screen full of app icons Ok they finally added a notification bar, about time. What about widgets ? Or total customization out of the box, without a jailbreak ? How about a 4.3" AMOLED screen ? I don't know, but to me the last few iPhone releases don't look radically different, just more of the same, with a few old tweaks added.
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Text in mty sig sez it all
I was a happy iPhone owner of the first two generations, I have just moved on, found it getting stale with hardly any changes, besides the obvious hardware upgrades yearly, it is the app drawer always open look I can't stand, plus the "toy" Fischer Price look and feel of the settings and icons, feels more like a chick phone or non techie phone, more for the average Joe blow.
I think both platforms are great.
I had an iPhone all the way up to 3g. It was an awesome device for it's time. It worked right out of the box with little to no setup. iTunes had a ton of apps to choose from and once jailbroken you could change the theme and do a few other nifty things.
BUT... it was god awful slow - I never had 3g speeds in my area, and even back to stock was a pain to have to wait... and wait... and wait for it to do ANYTHING.
My buddy got an iPhone 4 and although it is sleek and it runs great - I wasn't super impressed - it was the same ol phone but now had a front facing camera.
You were still stuck with the limitations of what Apple allowed you to have - no expansion, no switching out the battery, and no control over on how your phone looks/feels/tweaks etc...
I received a Samsung Captivate for my birthday. The screen is gorgeous, I had access to the battery and could even add memory! I didn't miss the front facing camera.. and the back camera is decent.
But right out of the box I had to come here and flash a custom ROM. This is a blessing and a curse. I had to spend a lot of time (ok hours) to ensure I didn't brick my brand new device.
Skip to today and I still have the same phone for over a year. Still snappy, the screen is still gorgeous. And now I have my choice of ROMs that I can easily and quickly flash to my device. Currently I run MIUI - which to me is a blend of awesomeness... of both IOS and Android
Either way... Apple designs a great device which is designed to be "thrown away" for the next model (which has been their business model for years now.) Its a great business plan.
That and since they (Apple) spend so much time with marketing and design of a "great" smartphone - the sheeple eat it up. I'm not knocking folks who get the device. It will work out of the box and you don't have to **** around with it for hours.
I personally prefer Android devices - I get to do what I want with them and I live with the bugs. As long as it's stable enough to make phone calls, send/rcv txts, and I can check my email - I'm good.
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I just read two similar postings to this, but I felt like I needed to give my opinions anyways. It's not exactly the same anyways.
Nexus One was Google's grand experiment. Some have considered it a failure due to sales numbers, some a success due to lack of marketing, some have lots to say about changing distribution channels, and the plusses and negatives.
But we are the test subjects here. And I'll tell you, coming from WinMo and a TP2, I was at first surprised and happy with my decision to impulse buy an experiment on a new OS. Speed, just-worksness, etc. My only negative was missing Sense. And then Modaco ported the Desire ROM, which I have to say isn't perfect but is 10x more stable than my old TP2 roms. I loved my phone.
However... being a test subject has worn on me. One: the first loved then panned screen, which I've heard everything from inferior coloring to last generation hardware on multitouch, none of which has bothered me, to the infuriating reception, which I have definitely been party to. Worst of all is the world class hardware HTC made to match the Iphone's style... matches it's weakness. I'm on my third N1. One broken digitizer, one broken LCD. Third one no problems so far. The LCD ridiculously while in my pocket.
And finally, the development community. One guy posted about the lack of comparitive stuff he could add from rooting. Any smartphone can add tethering. Porting Sense completed the phone for me, as I missed my smart dialing and weather clock. He got flamed for being demanding of devs, which I can understand on a dev community board... but I agree. The N1 was supposed to be the XDA's dream phone. Fastest updates, superior hardware... you could do anything with this phone. So we have a modified stock rom with additional features and RAM, Apps2SD, and ported Sense. Modaco is off for two weeks, and actually was hammering releases out daily for a while. But on my inferior TP2 they ported HD2 Roms, non HTC Roms, every new feature on any winmo phone... xda did that. They ported Android and convinced me to buy the n1! I am in no way complain about devs. Especially Cyanogen, Modaco, and that guy who has ported both Motoblur and Espresso and is now working on X10 Rom. I patiently await what they do. But all in all, developer response to N1 has been slow coming it would seem.
So to end my giant book post: how do you feel as an n1 user about your experience? The first legit google experience? I am not won over like an iphone fanboy. I am very dissappointed in customer service, and some hardware stuff. But overall I'm happy I made the Android jump. My only conclusion is that my next phone will not be from google dot come slash phone. It will be carrier branded. Rooting means I'll get updates fast anyways, and sales will be so much higher I expect that development will be more active. How do you all feel?
What exactly do you want to be developed? Do you want us Android users to port the lackluster Windows Mobile over to our devices? Is this what you expect?
MOTO Blur can't be correctly ported because of key mapping, and even so the resolution would be off without any current Android devices having MOTO Blur on a big screen, same goes for Espresso. X10 is in the making, as it also has button matching issues. Which are now being figured out.
You seem to be an intelligent person, someone who is smart enough to notice that this phone has been out for less that 4 months - which obviously means there is much to be left discovered. Your post, and this thread, are both pathetic. You act as if developing takes a small flick of the wrist, and as if the developers are not actually "trying" or pushing out more things that tickle your fancy fast enough - exactly what are you expecting? Also, please note that Windows has the ability to boot both Linux and itself, which im sure is a little relevant.
Why don't you wait a little while and see how things play out before making these little rant threads that are not needed..
What else do u want to do that hasn't been done or worked on?
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I love my Nexus one.
If you buy a phone for what MIGHT come, you've bought the wrong phone.
[QUOTE=trevorwhopkins;6187241 I am very dissappointed in customer service, and some hardware stuffl?[/QUOTE
You had to know you'd be flamed for your thoughts (although all valid opinions), but I can't see how you point out customer service as an issue when you're on your third (I assume free replacement) N1.
Regarding the community and development: I think this time around the community and devs knew what was needed based on prior android custom roms. Things like tethering, multitouch, rotating homescreen, launncher with an extra column, A2SD etc. were all released within a very reasonable timeframe. Then there were things like custom notification colors which didn't take much time to come out, either.
The phone is not perfect, and 99% of my frustrations seem to he simply a design flaw (aka hardware issue) where the normal/comfortable position to hold it creates a false/unintended pressz of the touchscreen resulting in random presses - which many blame software on while never realizing they simply need to adjust how they hold the phone. I learned to adjust, which I think everyone has to do for every phone (learn its quirks and adjust accordingly).
Disappointed? Not at all...overpriced? Maybe...glad I'm still the only one I know who has it? Hell yeah!
Fair post but good luck suggesting to many people at xda that their phone isn't the be-all end-all of mobile device development, its like telling a parent their kid is ugly, there's no reason or objectivity involved so youll be made to look soulless. : )
I personally couldn't care less about xda participation. However I am a little disappointed every time a new bug comes up and it turns out its regarding outdated hardware, in that department I did expect a little more. It's disappointing that we have an old screen and what not, surely Google didn't think users wouldn't discover and discuss the copious problems with the phone...
And I do feel like a beta tester. It does feel like the phone was rushed to the public. But this software is still awesome and ultimately we do have some solid hardware to work with and if Google wants to they can make this phone as stable and pleasurable as they advertised it to be. I am so incredibly curious to know what android has been doing lately, the folks there are historically bad at keeping secrets (thankfully) so they have either tightened security or they have been staring at the wall. I'm guessing the former and I can't wait. For a while after the bugs and shortcomings for this phone began to mount I turned my attention to the iPhone, lucky for android the iPhone OS 4.0 is not impressive. As long as the hardware isn't either, android can string me along for a good while.
I really don't know what to think. Google is making no effort to advertise the phone (for good reason at this point), and they are silent to all of the problems that have come up. I'm starting to think Google wishes the nexus would go away so they could try again...
about nexous one
Let me tell you after owning every phone out there the nexous one is the best and fastest phone i have ever owned period
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after owning all of those phone i will never go back i love my n1
Look at the g1 its the first android phone and there is hella roms for it just wait and there will be more roms and google will give out more updated witch will make the phone better and better
If you like sinse just get the HD2
YAWN...
You didn't add anything new to what was posted before. It's just a bunch of empty thoughts.
What is it that you want????
As I said before, we have the most up-to-date version of Android already, we can't anything new if we don't fully understand the changes.
This is just about as open a platform as we will ever see, learn to fix/add what you want.
Here is what I ask? At the time the Nexus came out, what phone was better? Iphone... uhm no. Touchpro2... not a chance. Moto Droid? Inferior hardware. The bottom line is, even with a few problems the Nexus has, it is still a top 5 phone, if not the best phone there is. I can honestly say, for T-Mobile, there is not a single phone offered that I would rather have. I can think of ONE other phone I'd consider getting outside T-Mobile and thats a phone that isn't out yet (Evo 4g). Come on man, do you want the phone to mow your lawn for you? It's an incredible device.
Oh and judging the quality of a phone based on sales figures is retarded. I don't care if it only sold one phone, if its a great phone its a great phone.
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What is it that you want????
As I said before, we have the most up-to-date version of Android already, we can't anything new if we don't fully understand the changes.
This is just about as open a platform as we will ever see, learn to fix/add what you want.
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I agree with you. Unlike the G1, we aren't trying to backport 2.1 features or build ROMs with as many things working in 2.1 as we can.
People like Sense, good for them. Personally, I don't care for it in the least. I like a few of the visuals of the status bar from it, which is why I kanged them, but I don't really care at all for the rest of it.
I'm running stock right know.. you know why? Because 2.1 is already the best Android experience! Like Eclair said, I don't get what you want right now.. Yes, the G1 and Magic have alot more ROMS out there but most of them are just 2.1 port attempts! They're trying to get what we already have on our phones. Just to further echo some common sentiments, the phone has only been out for a few months whereas the G1 has been out for a year and a half.. Don't worry, the development will come.. You should feel assured in the fact that many of the top G1/Magic devs switched over to the N1, it was one of the reasons I chose the Nexus over waiting for phones like the Desire.
All that said, I definitely am disappointed with a few things: The various hardware issues that have been popping up amongst different users (I personally have the purple tint issue), and the lagginess of the homescreen swiping. While the 2.1 is very fast in terms of app to app switching or web browsing, it lacks the polish that I hoped 2.1 would have (ie. like the iPhone). Yea, I know things like smooth scrolling on the iPhone are just eye candy, but it matters. It's what appeals to the masses.
An example, I have a non-techie friend who has played around with my Magic before (The Magic was running CursorSense). When he first played around with the N1 his first response was "How come this phone is slower than your Magic, I thought you payed $600 for it?".. He was referring to the scrolling. Of course after I showed him a few neat things (live walls, 3d launcher and gallery etc) he changed his mind but the point remains, the N1 doesn't leave the best first impression.
Overall I am happy with it although I feel it is definitely over priced. But the hardware is built for the future so I'm know that the software updates and future xda development will make it an investment that was worth taking!
Obviously the marketing (lack of) cant have helped sales. Putting it out first on Tmo was a mistake because it severly limited its market even among those who knew about it due to the lack of coverage. I think a traditional carrier launch on either AT&T or Verizon would have moved a lot of handsets. I think Google isnt stupid and they knew these things going in so they had their reasons.
Im not getting the slow development complaints. Its been 4 months. None of the other devices I had saw development that was faster in their intial months of release. At least not as I could notice, I freely admit I wasnt counting roms/apps and logging them in a database.
Personally I dont feel qualified to comment in great detail on a phone I picked up yesterday but I can say I dont regret it at all now that I have hardware in hand. It pretty much rocks as is and I for one am confident that good things are coming and its going to get better.
I will be returning my Nexus One to HTC for repair/replacement due to a faulty power button.
My only real gripe with the phone itself is that the power button is used to sleep & wake the device by default. There is no single button more important than the power button, imho, and it was a poor choice for HTC to design it so.
I take that back, the other huge gripe I have about the phone is HTC's decision to embed the radio antenna at the base of the phone where it is covered by the meaty part of the hand while holding the phone to your ear. Maybe they just assumed everyone would use the headset or bluetooth, but I don't. It is annoying to see it drop a bar of signal because I'm holding the phone naturally in the palm of my hand.
Once I get my replacement phone, I will not be unlocking or rooting it. I will be keeping it intact (and possibly sealed) until this summer, when I can see the next gen iPhone in action, and possibly as late as November, as Windows Phone 7 is already shaping up to be pretty slick.
Here are the things I want in my phone:
1. Just works. Most important thing. Dialer, Contacts, Bluetooth, etc. These things should just be a flick of the finger away.
2. Feature-rich. Integrated search, multi-touch browsing and maps, GPS nav, Native Internet Tethering (bugs the **** out of me that Android doesn't offer this OOB still).
3. Business AND pleasure - don't make me choose between personal email and contacts and enterprise features. HTC has saved Google's ass on this one with their amazing Sense framework from the Desire ROM. Exchange with ActiveSync is a MUST. Also where's the love for Blackberry mail server?? I guess Android is not for law firms? /shrug
4. When something says "Full web browsing", if it doesn't include Flash, HTML5, or Silverlight support, that's false advertising.
Other stuff:
I'm starting to write my apps for Windows Phone 7 SDK, I have been writing apps for the iPhone OS (now looking at iPhone OS 4 beta SDK), and I have written a few for Android.
The Windows Phone 7 SDK using Visual Studio 2010 is bread and butter for me -- its perfect. Working with Xcode on the iPhone SDK always felt clunky, and inefficient. Working with Eclipse on the Android SDK has come a *long* way since I started two years ago, and is much easier now than then.
But VS 2010 makes writing apps for WinPhone7 dead simple. I've already ported across my apps from the iPhone and Android platforms without any 3rd party cross-compilers, and it took a very short period of time.
These days it is the ecosystem that drives the market for handheld devices. iTunes made iPod what it is. The iPhone App store with 180,000+ apps made the iPhone platform what it is (we all know it certainly was nice hardware when it was released, but is definitely dated now). The Android Market has been a blessing and a curse for Android. Many solid apps, but no unified Android platform to develop for (to be addressed in Froyo -- or so they say). No single set of hardware to develop for. It's literally like shooting at a moving target. And developing with open source tools is fun for a while, but gets tiresome when there is so much more effort involved in some of the simplest things.
So that's basically where I am personally at. I love my N1. I will be getting it replaced due to hardware failure. I may not use the replacement, and may sell it instead to finance a Windows Phone 7, or possibly (but not likely) an iPhone over the course of the summer.
And before anyone calls me a hater on any grounds: I have used WinMo in the past, I am using Android now, I have good friends who use iPhones and I hold nothing against them for that. I develop my code on a Windows 7 machine, and I am typing this message on my Mac, which boots Win7, OSX, and Ubuntu.
Lastly, I will say this. There is a sad saying in business that "good enough beats best." This means that despite the technology or ability out there to produce unquestionably excellent goods and services, those which are "good enough" and produce a higher profit margin will win. We will likely always feel like we are being forced to accept mediocrity, but fortunately, the devices we have today will still be outshined, outclassed, and outdone by nearly everything to come in the future.
I would say the negative responses I got here are unappreciated and pointless, but then again they were expected and matter as much as my opinion does.
As for customer service... no. I didn't get anything free. My first n1's lcd broke inside my pocket in a restauraunt. The glass and case was perfect. There were tiny cracks in the lcd. I didn't drop it or anything. I really liked the phone, so I bought another. Google and HTC both gave me a runaround about covering it. Twenty minutes into a conversation, 3 steps up the corporate ladder, and and they finally said send it in, charge 500 dollars, and if your lucky we will give it back. The second time, my wife dropped it, which was her fault. As opposed to my TP2, Palm Pre, my sister's G1, which carriers were glad to replace free immediately if they even looked funny.
My point wasnt to repeat the other guys, only to explain my point about us being beta testers and ask how others felt. I expected some of you to defend it all, and some to complain. I was only explaining the things that made me think about it. And I feel that it is pointless for people to jump all over any person that posts a opinionated comment. If your not trolling or begging or complaining to devs, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion.
I didn't want to end up defending WM at all, only pointing out that their community is insanely creative. I have plenty of respect for how hard devs work. It's not the devs work I questioned, but the amount and interest of the dev community in this phone. If I wanted a WM phone I'ld have gotten the HD2. I like Android just fine, although I'ld be happy to jump on a GSM Droid with 1ghz, as I like my keyboards and hate the glare under the sun of OLED.
Also, all I meant to say about the sales numbers was that is just statistics. Chances are the phone with the most users has the most development, as theaudience is the biggest.
I see all of your points, and didnt mean to complain. The point of my post was this:
How do YOU ALL feel about your experience so far?
Thats why I explained overall how I felt with all the stuff we all have seen positive and negative.
love the phone.. but the touchscreen issues are really pissing me off. and the power button is starting to ***** out on me.
I don't regret at all the $$ I paid for Nexus One. It's an amazing phone with a great OS, it has some negatives like any other phone in the universe (battery,ringtones volume and sunlight visibility) but it has so many positives
My ex-SE phones (that I totally loved) look like an old nintendo NES compared to an XboX360
Other than the **** battery, I'm perfectly happy with my N1.
plain and simple... give me a multi-touch screen that actually works the way it should and I would be 100% satisfied with my phone...
I was hoping that the gaming experience on the phone would be much more pleasurable but with how quirky the touch screen is its nearly impossible to have a great experience...
I would say I am about 80% pleased with the experience so far and I came from a t-mobile dash so the tech on the N1 was leaps and bounds ahead of my old phone but given that I had to shell out all that money for the phone means I should have a 100% sexy piece of hardware instead of 80% of one... with a phone that has no physical keyboard, the touch screen should be much higher quality than it is....
my 2 cents...
Trevor, I agree with you.
Face it people, the phone is a disappointment.
Battery= sucks
touchscreen= sucks
can't save apps to sd= sucks
sloppy slow interface = sucks
3g = sucks
2g = sucks
trackball = sucks
hotmail = sucks
still no flash/html5 = sucks
pink blob im my photos = sucks
no gdocs app = sucks
force closing = sucks
no native profile choice = sucks
silent mode still allows sounds = sucks
slow googles response to the above issues = sucks
bunch of N1 fanboys who can't admit that thier N1 sucks = sucks
Hey peeps and SGS owners. How many of you get the usual "iPhone 4 just works," "the iPhone is so much faster," "iPhone don't feel buggy," and the infamous "why didn't you get iPhone 4 instead?" comments from iPhags around you? I personally get them almost everyday.
Jeez, leave us alone. I mean, really? It just works? I bet you spend an hour trying to sort your music files into iTunes. I merely drag and drop. It's faster? Yeah, cause it's simply app pages. I get that smoothness without widgets. Feel buggy? Well, guess what, I customise my whole system myself, kernels, filesystems, roms. Why I didn't get the iPhone? Cause I simply chose not to.
Blah...
Good night fellas. Sorry had some boosts and it's 4 in the morning now. I don't know, just a bad day.
haha
seriously dude....iphone 4 just works
(just tryin to screw around with your head )
Problem is, it doesn't.
You have to admit (and if u don't you you self are a fag) that iphones are good bits of kit and shouldn't be flamed just for being an "iphone". It's the users of iphones who are the novices who think if it aint an iphone it's junk
But saying that my boss brought me his iphone4 it was totally dead it was fine batt was almost full and just died. I then did a google and found litterally hundrends and hundreds of posts similar to the on below
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11766746
So when ppl tell u their phone is th dog bollox and nothing does compare then show em threads like above.
At the end of the day i can see the benefits of both systems.
People say iphones work, well yes they do. But that's because apple have locked the thing down so hard it doesn't get the chance not to work. Iphones were designed for people who just want stuff to work and be simple.
People say android is buggy, etc. Well yeah at certain times things don't work as planned. But it normally gets fixed in no time. And on the plus side android seems capable of much more than ios.
Iphone is for coffee shop gurus.
Android is for people more than computer literate.
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Ironically, most of the comments I got from iPhone's owner is: Good to see there's something else. But then, they know I wouldn't put my money on an apple thinggy!
And I agree that iPhone is for the "Wanabe" geek as a new gizmo to show off with.
Android is for the reel geeks that uses the thing!
I completely agree with OP hell I even had my grandad trying to say the Iphone 4 just worked so I just death gripped it soon shut him up plus showed him about a dozen apps you'd have to pay for the I phone equivalents that do just work gnu/gpl ftw
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Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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QFT my friend!
Wow, you guys are sensible. For once, I get comments that are not on a whole unjust to one side only. Haha. I don't hate iPhone 4, I just hate iOS and the users. I like the hardware though. Yeah, like communists. That's right!
And then, there's also jailbroken iPhone users. They think they are on top of the world with jailbreak.
How does this thread end up in Q&A? There should be a miscellaneous section for SGS users.
I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
Android are easy use but if you have to mod everything yourself, its very technical but possible. Thats why thanks to people here, most of the hard yack are already done for you.
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I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time.
Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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Good post, okpc +1
It's not so much that android is for more technical people, but rather, it's for more adventurous people. Sure, the iphone has its jailbreak, but even the freedom that affords is limited. With android, the potential for personal customization is as limited as your uber-geek skills.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
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It's simple if you have apple gear.. The moment you have any flacs or other formats, things get tricky.
I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
When iphone users look at my galaxy s they normally say "it's very like the iphone" to which I always reply "yah it is....... Only better"
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Good that people have a choice nowadays ....
There was a time where no smartphone could compete with the iPhone, even after it been over 2 years on the market.
But you can say whatever you want about Apple .. they have a very sophisticated sense for clean and functional design. Be it the hardware or the software. They have very strict design guidelines, and thats the reason the apps are often looking more polished.
So, for people who are very visually-orientated, iPhone would be a natural choice. For the tech-savy folks, Android is the clear winner.
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I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
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LOL that last part! Too excited huh... XD
Oh yeah, I was a iPhone user as well. Dated back to iPod Video era, then to iPod 2G, iPhone 3GS, but I skipped iPhone 4, that's when Android came in. People start to realise that there are other smartphones worth keeping, not symbian btw.
Just wondering if there is a lot of people here that have had the iPhone prior til an android device. How do you like the transition?
I have had the O2X for a month and i can say that i really miss my iPhone So much more smooth, fast, battery life... And if anything goes wrong you have the iTunes backup so you dont need to be an expert til reflash with NVflash and you dont loose all your apps and settings...
I'm using a Motorola Milestone/Droid, and I really don't miss my iPhone 3G. The thing was horribly slow. Zero multi-tasking. Screen resolution was very low compared. Hardware wise, it was a real improvement. I'm running at 1GHz now with CM7.
In the software front, I really like, and prefer, how Android handle things. Apple is too control freak. I want emulator and ****!
But I have to say that the lack of proper backup in Android is really lame. iTunes can be really slow, but at least it does a proper sync and backup.
There is absolutely nothing like it in the Android world. Google has to improve its game!
Yes i do miss my 3gs apps on android are really ugly android has a lot of problems but,wanted a bigger screan so here i am using noveka rom 2.2 with honeycomb theme and have android only for
1 month flashed like 30 different roms but if iphone 5 or 4s what ever will change the boring home screen im going back. On android maybee on ice cream sandwitch sorry for my english but im romanian
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Simple
1.Root
2.CWM
3.Nandroid backup of your stock rom
4.Titanium Backup for all ya Apps
If anything goes wrong follow the NvFlash Thread, there are many of people willing to help if you get stuck.
Put ya music on ya sd card and you will never loose it no need to sync
SIMPLE
I have never had an Iphone and will NEVER get one Android is the way forward
Used to have a 3g, and i hated it.
I love the openness of android, and on the hardware side the O2x just blows all the iphones away.
Whar ROM are you using? Since my O2x is way faster than my old iphone, and my buddy's iphone4
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I just bought an iPhone again, even though this phone has great potentiel. It just lack the commitment of LG. I tired of trying out new roms every second day, to get it running as it should from the start. It's a great piece of hardware, but the hardware is only as good as the software running it.... Goodbye LG Mobile it was a laggy experience knowing ya
Thats one thing I will never buy and that is a IPhone. Don't like Apple due to there bringing old tech out and telling everyone its new. I mean come on Facetime, Video calling is years old but because Apple did it. Its AMAZING and been invented by aliens from a future race!.
The IPhone could have a 8 core CPU running at 3GHZ each, but will never give Apple my money knowing that there laughing at all the sheep jumping on the band wangon of every Apple product that ever gets released with the letter I in front.
There OS is closed and controlled. Android isn't the best OS about but it has Openness, yes that is a plus and a negative but I would rather buy a fone that is MINE rather than feeling that Apple have control over what I can and can't do.
I will give credit to Apple though because if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt be where we are now with technology. Also, Apple are good with updates but for me personally...
I would rather buy a £10 basic fone than a IPhone.
Google arent perfect as there just as bad because they want to make money.. The difference is, how they promote and allow different manufacturers to build upon there platform.
All Apple want to do is FORCE everyone Developers and Customers alike. Its a shame people don't see things like this and think everything Apple do is great. The IPhone 5 could have a 500mhz single processor and everyone will say its the best fone out there. With Apple announcing a game that looks like Nokias Snake and telling everyone its a brand new game.
Android is about CHOICE....
Apple is about CONTROL....
Just my personal opinion and understand its not what every thinks lol.
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Thats one thing I will never buy and that is a IPhone. Don't like Apple due to there bringing old tech out and telling everyone its new. I mean come on Facetime, Video calling is years old but because Apple did it. Its AMAZING and been invented by aliens from a future race!
The IPhone could have a 8 core CPU running at 3GHZ each, but will never give Apple my money knowing that there laughing at all the sheep jumping on the band wangon of every Apple product that ever gets released with the letter I in front.
There OS is closed and controlled. Android isn't the best OS about but it has Openness, yes that is a plus and a negative but I would rather buy a fone that is MINE rather than feeling that Apple have control over what I can and can't do.
I will give credit to Apple though because if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt be where we are now with technology. Also, Apple are good with updates but for me personally...
I would rather buy a £10 basic fone than a IPhone.
Google arent perfect as there just as bad because they want to make money.. The difference is, how they promote and allow different manufacturers to build upon there platform.
All Apple want to do is FORCE everyone Developers and Customers alike. Its a shame people don't see things like this and think everything Apple do is great. The IPhone 5 could have a 500mhz single processor and everyone will say its the best fone out there. With Apple announcing a game that looks like Nokias Snake and telling everyone its a brand new game.
Android is about CHOICE....
Apple is about CONTROL....
Just my personal opinion and understand its not what every thinks lol.
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I can see that u never had an iphone iphone is not about control for that is cydia like rooting on android .facetime i have seen people use it to talk but a normal videocall nobody used it why? Becouse its **** compared to face time i used it and never used a video call whay again? Becouse its **** im a proud owner of lg optimus 2x but apple is light years away
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Exchange it for an iPhone then you freaking whino.
Useless to open a thread for every brainfart of yours...
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Foetsie said:
Exchange it for an iPhone then you freaking whino.
Useless to open a thread for every brainfart of yours...
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Nop gone keep it ) starting to like it
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nk7600 said:
Thats one thing I will never buy and that is a IPhone. Don't like Apple due to there bringing old tech out and telling everyone its new. I mean come on Facetime, Video calling is years old but because Apple did it. Its AMAZING and been invented by aliens from a future race!.
The IPhone could have a 8 core CPU running at 3GHZ each, but will never give Apple my money knowing that there laughing at all the sheep jumping on the band wangon of every Apple product that ever gets released with the letter I in front.
There OS is closed and controlled. Android isn't the best OS about but it has Openness, yes that is a plus and a negative but I would rather buy a fone that is MINE rather than feeling that Apple have control over what I can and can't do.
I will give credit to Apple though because if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt be where we are now with technology. Also, Apple are good with updates but for me personally...
I would rather buy a £10 basic fone than a IPhone.
Google arent perfect as there just as bad because they want to make money.. The difference is, how they promote and allow different manufacturers to build upon there platform.
All Apple want to do is FORCE everyone Developers and Customers alike. Its a shame people don't see things like this and think everything Apple do is great. The IPhone 5 could have a 500mhz single processor and everyone will say its the best fone out there. With Apple announcing a game that looks like Nokias Snake and telling everyone its a brand new game.
Android is about CHOICE....
Apple is about CONTROL....
Just my personal opinion and understand its not what every thinks lol.
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I would say, that i'm not an apple fan boy, it was just the phone i had before the O2X, and i was quite satisfied with it. The o2x was my first android phone, and i do like the google platform. For me, it was more the lg software provided with the phone, that made me go back. I know there are heaps of custom roms, and i've tried alot, but it always, seemed to cause some other problem, batterydrain/or just poor batterylife/reboots. And with cm7 which has become pretty stable, i still experienced the sound bug, and i use my phone as mp3 player aswell, so it got pretty annoying. I dunno if i'm gonna keep the o2x, I might, just to see what will be provided for it, in the next couple of months. The hardware inside the phone, is quite awesome, it's just sad that LG doesn't know how to use it, but they might end up getting back in the game.
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its your first android phone and yet your speaking like you know how other android phones perform. you're telling us that it's Lg's fault that you are not enjoying your android phone but you haven't tried androids from Htc, samsung, motorola, and SE, im not an LG fanboy but this is my 2nd phone from them and so far im very pleased. I've been using lots of android phone and my O2x is by far the best and the smoothest. battery life is just the same as my previous galaxy S but 3x better than my desire HD.
i did have an iphone 3GS but the restrictions and the boring and inefficient UI brought me to android. and i hate i-tunes. i hat steve jobs pushing me to use -itunes like im some kind of illiterate uneducated old man. and im 22 years old.
why can't i just use my 3Gs just like any other storage device. drag and drop into a folder and then bam!
I don`t miss my iphone 3gs at all!
Love my o2x as it is. I would not trade my o2x for iphone 4 even for iphone 5 when it comes!
My wife just switched from iphone 4 to galaxy s2 and she loves it as well.
Simpler to use, drag and drop music, backups, possibilities, great apps as well, amazing support from devs, much more customisable, fun to use and great deal of learning about linux if you are into modding. You can do crazy **** with it as well: runs nmap, metasploit, backtrack 5 and so on...
I had an iphone 3g / 4 before this. I switched to this phone and i sold both the iphones.
Reasons why i like android more than ios:
- Itunes sucks! Seriously, i hate that program so much.
- widgets
- downpullable status bar ( and dont come up with sbsettings, because thats not part of ios)
- theming
- custom roms which actually add new features to your phone
- google synch, i love being able to nvflash this phone to 0 and install a custom rom afterwhich you just sign up with the google account and all the contacts and applications are back. Again, F#ck i tunes.
- iphone feels small,really small.
Things i like about iphone:
- They work 100% out of the box
- All software is/feels the same
- research has shown that people with an iphone have more sex than people without one. Works out well for me, i just say mine is better than the iphone
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yep. the widget is a big + factor to me.
i hate clicking apps just to see my damn calendar and appointments...
i had more *** when i began using my O2x :0
peacekeeper05 said:
i had more *** when i began using my O2x :0
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Thats because you can actually see when your almost late for appointments
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its your first android phone and yet your speaking like you know how other android phones perform. you're telling us that it's Lg's fault that you are not enjoying your android phone but you haven't tried androids from Htc, samsung, motorola, and SE, im not an LG fanboy but this is my 2nd phone from them and so far im very pleased. I've been using lots of android phone and my O2x is by far the best and the smoothest. battery life is just the same as my previous galaxy S but 3x better than my desire HD.
i did have an iphone 3GS but the restrictions and the boring and inefficient UI brought me to android. and i hate i-tunes. i hat steve jobs pushing me to use -itunes like im some kind of illiterate uneducated old man. and im 22 years old.
why can't i just use my 3Gs just like any other storage device. drag and drop into a folder and then bam!
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Well i'm a android noob then Well my experience is that the lg launcher is pretty laggy, compared to what i expected from lg 2xspeed which it's called in some countries. And yeah you can install other launchers, but for me, a android noob, I would have expected the first hand experience to be alot better. I'm not agains android, i quite like the openess and the widgets. But for me the iphone forfill my needs more at the time being. But it seems that when the word iphone is writen, ppl go "bolistic". I'm not for or against the different platforms, that's why i also said, that i might keep the lg2x to see what it brings in the future, cause i like it, but i'm just disappointed with the software lg has provided. And yes i find it poor software, since for me, out of the box experience means alot, and that feeling didn't satisfy me at all. But that is just my oppinion!!! I didn't mean to start an apple/android war, since i like both platforms.
You didn't expect a android vs iphone war when you opened this thread? you're right, go back to your simple Iphone.
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You didn't expect a android vs iphone war when you opened this thread? you're right, go back to your simple Iphone.
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I didn't start this thread
I did try iphone 4 before switching to android.
But damn it, Apple has got a really big plus on his side, i mean iOS just works. You just click and it works!
Look at the crappy thing that LG did, they almost copyed everything to apple, but they didn't learn that power is nothing without control. I personally cry when i see the shietty UI they implemented that's capable to make a Dual-Core lag lol.
I will just wait iphone 4s or 5 whatever is called to go back to Apple. I just gave back my iphone 4 cuz of the antenna-gate.
LETS WRITE DOWN SOME REASONS WHY ANDROID'S ARE BETTER THAN IPHONES
1. OTA (Over the air) updates. No need to plug in to itunes
2. Freedom to change roms, root, customize, etc
3. Similar markets but Android Market has tons of more stuff
4. Now is when the iPhone has 4G ? You're a year late Apple :\
5. Tsk tsk tsk, still no 3D? Bragging about 1080p and 8mp and dual core? The Epic had this several months ago
6. Why pay $800 bucks for it (On ebay), when I can get an Evo 3D on ebay for $350?
Join the fun, get at em boys!
Wow, talk about a generally blind post riddled with fanboyism.
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I don't really see it as fanboyism considering that it's pretty much bang on the mark. I think iOS is an appalling piece of firmware. There is nothing interesting about an app draw, and let's face it, that's all it is. And that's just the apparent.
The hardware on the 4S is fantastic but by no means anything to brag about.
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It is a matter of perspective and experience which define our "likes". For example to the novice/beginner computer user, the iOS is the best piece of software they could come across. Why? Because you do not need to go through menus to do something. Or click on the app drawer icon to display your apps. (Note to a novice or beginner, they will not fathom any of these ideas as they ar unfamilar with the whole technoligcal world, hence having a difficult or less simple experience, this all from my experience with my friends, some didn't even know how to call)
You simply swipe, and pick. Simple eh? So there it is, a bragging right, even the most unexperienced will be able to handle the iOS. That is what you call a good software based on the software principles. Usability.
You realize that iOS 5 brings OTA updates right? Might want to actually research the competition before you ridicule it like an idiot. Personally I love both. I use a Nexus S and iPhone interchangeably. I see no need to bash the other OS, it's all a matter of opinion. I say the exact same thing to all the screaming apple fanatics on MacRumors.
And for the record I like iOS better than Android but with ICS on the verge of release that may even the play field.
Reasons why Android kills iPhones, three letters ICS.
Android is what separates the men from the iPussies.
you forgot Android is a cooler name o_0
1. OTA (Over the air) updates. No need to plug in to itunes
iOS5 has OTA capability
2. Freedom to change roms, root, customize, etc
Jailbreak
3. Similar markets but Android Market has tons of more stuff
Ummm Appstore probably has more apps than android market
4. Now is when the iPhone has 4G ? You're a year late Apple :\
Technically outside of LTE phones which were released this year, they're really not that late
5. Tsk tsk tsk, still no 3D? Bragging about 1080p and 8mp and dual core? The Epic had this several months ago
3D to most folks = gimmick
6. Why pay $800 bucks for it (On ebay), when I can get an Evo 3D on ebay for $350?
Who really wants to get an Evo 3D on ebay for $350? Also price gets better away from the initial release date where the demand is much greater than the supply
My guess is that you're..... 13?
C'mon, even with me being a fan of Android, I don't post ridiculous threads on why Android is better than iOS. Then to top it off add a poll to a predominately Android favored website.
Any respectable smartphone user won't join in your iBashing.
I have to say, iOS5 is a beauty.. and I have been an android man through and through.. ICS didnt impress me at all.. No new real "Bang" features.. just re-polishing stuff that should have already been polished. I'm disappointed Android, I wanted a reason to sell my iP4s for a wad of cash and get a Nexus.. Guess ill stick with it.
Given the obscenely unintelligent posts put forth by numerous members here you guys have no reason to mock iAnything.
What the hells the point in thie flame bait thread?
Both platforms have their advantages and disadvantages. It is as simple as that.
I choose Android.
Why? Because your phone is You.
It's a reflective image of you.
And with the Android, you're gonna make it happen.
because android easy to use
Android VS iOS: FIGHT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnw6ROzremw
The screen on Iphones is far too small and only fit for making phone calls. Apple are deliberately doing this to make people buy an Ipad.
It's simply opinion. I prefer Android and I generally don't like Apple products, period.
I guess both have their pros and cons though...
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http://us.news-republic.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=1&articleid=7339419
Enjoy. Even though the reviewer still prefers iPhone seems the nexus 4 is making an impression on the I sheep.
Every now and then one of these guys wakes up from the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field™ and realizes there's a whole 'nother world out there
His comment about Siri vs. Google Voice Search is the most telling. Anybody who has spent anytime with Android knew that Siri was a shoddy version of Voice Search turned into a marketing gimmick.. 3 years later this tech "journalist" has finally caught on.
Wow, I just clicked "See Original Article" to see who wrote this, and what do you know, it's MG Siegler... Amazing level of ineptitude for a guy who is such a prominent figure in his field. It's clear from this article he has never given Android the time of day and yet that's not stop him from spewing his drivel and getting paid for it
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Every now and then one of these guys wakes up from the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field™ and realizes there's a whole 'nother world out there
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I just cannot understand these kinds of comments. The iPhone 5 is a great product much like the Nexus 4.
Who cares what impression nexus 4 makes on other users(iphone users or whatever). As long as i like the device that is all it matters to me!
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I just cannot understand these kinds of comments. The iPhone 5 is a great product much like the Nexus 4.
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indeed it is but have you ever heard an Apple owner rant on? I think Apple products from a design point of view are astounding but the owners are mentalists and seem to view every other product on the planet as inferior, generally they will argue this point until you just get bored and give up.
I find it interesting that the author filled up his homepage full of icons just like iOS. Nothing more to that, just an observation.
Despite him being wrong about the orb in that it's not a dock and it's not magnetic, I did like his enthusiasm about it.
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indeed it is but have you ever heard an Apple owner rant on? I think Apple products from a design point of view are astounding but the owners are mentalists and seem to view every other product on the planet as inferior, generally they will argue this point until you just get bored and give up.
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Apple product stock vs android product stock, apple wins. If there were no custom kernels nexus 4 battery life would suck while iphone 5 makes it throughout the day. Apple products keep value the most over time + as u said design is better.
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Apple product stock vs android product stock, apple wins. If there were no custom kernels nexus 4 battery life would suck while iphone 5 makes it throughout the day. Apple products keep value the most over time + as u said design is better.
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They are honestly awful quality though. They may look nice but at least half of my friends that have them complain about the lock button which has stopped working on a ton of iPhones. Also that wonderful and beautiful aluminum bezel idea was stupid, it scratches and dents so easily. Its way to soft.
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indeed it is but have you ever heard an Apple owner rant on? I think Apple products from a design point of view are astounding but the owners are mentalists and seem to view every other product on the planet as inferior, generally they will argue this point until you just get bored and give up.
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I am moving over to the Android side of the pond with 2 Nexus 4 16gb phones for my wife and I, coming from iPhone 4's. I had owned Android phones prior to the iPhones, most recently back in early 2011 with the Vibrant. We were really excited about the tech in the iPhone 4 phones, so we signed up for Verizon and have had those phones to date. Since then, we haven't noticed much other "innovation" with the iPhones, minus the Siri and somewhat faster processing (along with mildly increased screen resoultion/size and camera MP). Whereas the Android side of the pond, has seen some nice strides, and it seems like the Apple side is stuck with "more of the same" type thinking, in particular with the transition from the 4S to the 5.
We are really excited about the new Nexus phones that should be here very soon. Although I have an iPad 2, my kids use the Nabi 2 tablets (quad core, nVidia Tegra 3), and I have played on those some, which has given me the ability to try out some of the newer features in the Android OS 4.x updates. Seems like a really tight OS, even when compared to the air-tight iOS 6.x. Further, I like the fact that the Nexus phones are so easily customizable, whereas the iOS side of things is extremely "stale". Apple needs to take some notes, and understand that versatility is needed for their continued market growth. Although the iPhone 5 is a very nice phone, I feel it was a mistake that Apple will ultimately rue the day on, even though it is fairly popular. Why will they rue the day? Because, all those folks thinking the iPhone 5 is the greatest thing since slice bread and running out to buy it, are seeing that its just a minor update to the 4S, and is lacking innovation. This will put Apple in a tougher spot for the iPhone 5S or 6, as many people are looking and seeing all the cool things that the direction the Android OS/devices are taking.
Can anyone shed some light on why iPhone users love imessage so much, other than the fact it just distinguishes the person they're texting is another iPhone user?
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Can anyone shed some light on why iPhone users love imessage so much, other than the fact it just distinguishes the person they're texting is another iPhone user?
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It allows for real-time viewing of when the other ios device you are messaging, has read the message, and if they are in the process of responding back.
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It allows for real-time viewing of when the other ios device you are messaging, has read the message, and if they are in the process of responding back.
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IMO absolutely worthless if it is limited to only iOS users. Would be nice if the openness of Google voice and the Polish and ease of use of iMessage were to blend. Google voice IMO is a great idea and is a cool feature but its lacking in so many ways
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You really should have posted to original TC article.
Read the review and then reread it. The reviewer's only argument is the lack of the iApps he is used to + apps that do not exist on the android, but are huge on the ios. Noone is going to switch to a ecosystem that's missing all the apps that are used daily.
Nexus 4 could cure cancer, teleport you to Mars and solve world hunger for all he cares, but until developers start treating ios and android equally, ios wins - its rooted in the US, where the money is.
So to be fair, it's not really a review of the device, it's a review of the ecosystem.
Nexus 4 seems touch notch to me, less LTE. Great phone and design.
I'm in the minority, but I like a really small phone, large tablet. Phone has to be stable and fast, tablet can crash(that's not meant to be taken as IOS vs Android stability comment) . iPhone fits the bill for me.
Honestly the real reason is I feel if I'm not modding, and hacking up every different mobile device out there I'm missing out on the fun. iPhone, Android tablet, Palm tablet. ehhh not so much Blackberry. I like to eat from the technology buffet, one of everything.
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IMO absolutely worthless if it is limited to only iOS users. Would be nice if the openness of Google voice and the Polish and ease of use of iMessage were to blend. Google voice IMO is a great idea and is a cool feature but its lacking in so many ways
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I think apple like most of their products or features they want to keep it within the ecosystem. Just like BlackBerry has BBM. BBM is light years ahead of imessage though.
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And the article completely leaves out the pricing and versatility when it comes to providers, at least for some of us. These are points iphone cannot compete with in regards to new product.
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I just cannot understand these kinds of comments. The iPhone 5 is a great product much like the Nexus 4.
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My point has nothing to do with the iPhone 5. Steve Jobs was a master at manipulating media and the way Apple was perceived. Apple does hundreds of billions of dollars in notional trading to avoid corporate taxes, they've installed suicide nets at Foxconn, and they have had documented incidents of child labor. Yet, America loves Apple. That's the distortion field I'm talking about. MG Siegler is complicit in creating it. He's a hack journalist with a hack's knowledge of Android, which is clear from his Siri/Voice Search point.
Since the launch of the nexus 4 there have been really interesting articles from people who took the step and switched to an android device. As an iPhone user I am really considering. But I am afraid that its gonna be so time consuming to reproduce all my workflow and flashing several roms to try out the best configuraiton
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Since the launch of the nexus 4 there have been really interesting articles from people who took the step and switched to an android device. As an iPhone user I am really considering. But I am afraid that its gonna be so time consuming to reproduce all my workflow and flashing several roms to try out the best configuraiton
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Well, yes and no. I could and probably should of stayed stock. Stock 4.2.2 was mind blowingly smooth and battery friendly. Only reason o flashed a ROM is because I have that bug. Stock android is a joy to use coming from skinned versions such as sense, touchwiz and motoblur. They all get old real fast. The simplicity and fluidity of the stock android experience is unmatched. Yes iOS is simple also. But you have one launcher, one configuration, and limited options. App development is huge among ios, no one can argue that point, but the playstore is leaps and bounds better than it was almost 4 years ago.
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My point has nothing to do with the iPhone 5. Steve Jobs was a master at manipulating media and the way Apple was perceived. Apple does hundreds of billions of dollars in notional trading to avoid corporate taxes, they've installed suicide nets at Foxconn, and they have had documented incidents of child labor. Yet, America loves Apple. That's the distortion field I'm talking about. MG Siegler is complicit in creating it. He's a hack journalist with a hack's knowledge of Android, which is clear from his Siri/Voice Search point.
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And other companies use child labor also, I'm certainly not defending it, or any companies. I'm glad this abuse is being brought to light so all can hopefully be forced to stop...http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162...nd-child-workers-at-samsung-supplier-factory/