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I've heard of a few friends getting bluetooth PAN tethering with only the standard non-tethering data plan ($40/45). Has anyone succeeded in doing this? I would try to figure it out myself, but all the bay area stores are sold outof the Tilt.
You can tether with any data plan. You can tether via USB or BT. I have the MediaMax plan, and tether with my Kaiser (and I did with my 8525 and Blackjack before them).
Now whether it is allowed or not is a different story. But, technically, it works with no issues.
you can tether any device without tethering package
They don't want you to because of the large data downloads, I say go ahead just don't go bragging about it our the may try to audit your acct.
jomo25 said:
You can tether with any data plan. You can tether via USB or BT. I have the MediaMax plan, and tether with my Kaiser (and I did with my 8525 and Blackjack before them).
Now whether it is allowed or not is a different story. But, technically, it works with no issues.
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I should note that at least one of the other people that got it to work without a proper tethering plan was in the same situation as you: they started out with a Blackberry, and then just didn't switch plans to another plan.
For new Tilt owners, AT&T offers a handful of plans, all under the "PDA" plan family. "PDA Personal Max" is $40, and doesn't include tethering, "PDA Personal Max - Tethering" does, but is a ridiculous $70.
Has anyone gotten tethering to work on a new AT&T non-tethering plan? What happens if you try to connect to the phone via PAN without the tethering plan? I wonder if a hacked ROM could fix this, if it's blocked by software on the phone.
I use a program called PDANet. It's like $30 but well worth it because it can save you a lot of money. http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php
It more or less makes it appear as if your data is coming from your phone instead of your laptop.
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I should note that at least one of the other people that got it to work without a proper tethering plan was in the same situation as you: they started out with a Blackberry, and then just didn't switch plans to another plan.
For new Tilt owners, AT&T offers a handful of plans, all under the "PDA" plan family. "PDA Personal Max" is $40, and doesn't include tethering, "PDA Personal Max - Tethering" does, but is a ridiculous $70.
Has anyone gotten tethering to work on a new AT&T non-tethering plan? What happens if you try to connect to the phone via PAN without the tethering plan? I wonder if a hacked ROM could fix this, if it's blocked by software on the phone.
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I wonder why the rep I spoke to told me that of all the PDA plans, all included tethering? I was fighting tooth and nail to get the PDA unlimited + 1500 SMS / free M2M messaging but was unable to because "the IMEI for the Kaiser is being reported as an unknown device".
I ended up having to get the PDA Personal Unlimited + shared unlimited messaging for my family plan. Anyway, PDA Personal Unlimited is supposed to have tethering included.
Can't get PDAnet to work. Looks like it uses same style to connect as when I use the connection wizard anyway. I doubt this program subverts cingular's ability to tell what is using what data connection...
Anyway, I googled around and tried the different usernames and passwords and APN's I found but no luck with PDAnet...
any suggestions anyone?
What about USB Modem by Mobile Stream?
It worked well with my PPC-6700....
http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html
Data plans have NO bearing on whether your phone can tether or not. If data access is enabled on your account with any plan in place you have the "ability" to tether, but not necessarily "permission". It doesn't matter if it is a pay as you use it or a full laptop connect plan. For those that are tethering without the proper data plan it is like driving without a seat belt. You may have driving for hundreds of miles without anything happening, but one day......
For the Tilt, the program Internet Sharing works like a champ. Just launch it, click connect, and plug it up to your computer.
Download this cab to install it.
For the Tilt: There is no need to install it. The IntrShr.exe or something similar is right in the \Windows directory. Just make a shortcut to your start menu for it.
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For the Tilt: There is no need to install it. The IntrShr.exe or something similar is right in the \Windows directory. Just make a shortcut to your start menu for it.
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Correct, but the cab just makes it easier for a noob.
am i doing somehing wrong becaus it askes for a username and password. It is like I am trying to dial up or something..
I am an idiot. I enabled the dialup network... which ATT told me to do. JERKS!. in anyevent, you must enable the PAN network then it works AWESOME... My speeds are excellent too. about 800-1300 down and about 300-500up... PERFECT...
thanks XDA
Internet sharing on my Kaiser/TyTn II works like a champ and quite easy to set up...Your provider, in my case ATT, might and some say will notice large amounts of data use so beware of that. They will audit and go after your money in that case. I dont use it frequently even though I have unlimited data plan with Media Net for the overpriced amount of $39.99...geeee I'm really glad they don't charge me $40.00
I know I read somewhere u can use ur wifi and not ur at&t internet as a modum if u turn off the phone at&t will never know anyone else reaed this and if so know where it is? thanx
I come from the Verizon world, where you could not authenticate through tethering unless you paid the extra $15/month. (But PDANet did work just fine). I have seen posts (albeit older dates) that claim people were charged heavy data rates for tethering when they did not have a data plan that included it.
I am using a Tilt and have the $59.00 Tether data plan. I am able to tether using either APN: wap.cingular or isp.cingular.
My friend has a Tilt with the $49.00 data plan without tethering (but with SMS). I tested his phone and could only get it to connect using wap.cingular for tethering.
So my questions are:
1) Do I actually need the tethering plan or can I reduce my plan and use wap.cingular? (I know it works but it leads me to the next question)
2) If you use wap.cingular without the tethering plan will you get charged the outrageous data rates?
3) What is the actual difference between the two APN's?
Thanks for any info you can provide!
SC
#1 and #2. For tethering legally, yes, you must have laptop connect. With Internet Sharing on the newer phones, it makes it harder for AT&T to prevent you from doing this (without being charged), but they most likely will eventually get you.
For #2, see this thread, specfically the crumbfire post. He explains it excellently:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=47397&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
Hi:
I have searched and searched with no luck. I am on an ATT Tilt, and would like to use PdaNet to connect PC to internet through phone. I have yet to be able to get it to work properly. I get dial up error=721 (state=8193). I used PdaNet on my Treo 750 (which I had prior to the Tilt), and it worked perfectly, so I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Any ideas what the problem could be?
I am on an unlimited pda plan, but don't want to incur additional charges (such as the tethering plan), for very minimal, occasional tethering use, so ideally I would like to connect in a way that I won't be "caught", lol.
Any help would really be appreciated!
I'm use Internet Sharing via Bluetooth or USB to connect my laptop via my phone for Internet access. This is without a tethering plan from AT&T. The plan I have is $39.99/month, however they have a cheaper plan - MediaNet w/unlimited Data and 200 TXT MSG. Others have been using this plan without any issues. I ma venture to try this soon.
cincy1020,
For your problem with dial-up, you're not adding a modem via your pc. Try it with the USB cable first -- go to Internet sharing on the phone and select USB and click Connect. Connect your USB cable to your laptop and it should detect a network card and get an IP address. No need for dialup. You will have to install Active Sync on your laptop (I find it easier).
I think you're trying to use a modem which will probably require a tethering plan and that's probably why you're having the dialup error.
cincy1020
Well here's the deal for GPRS. You do not need PDANet. So give your license to someone who is still on CDMA somewhere. You first need to install the driver for the HTC Kaiser/Tilt as a USB Modem. A few forum searches will find the inf to install in windows. Then you simply set up a DUN connection using that USB modem. The number should be *99# and make sure to add this line as extra init options:
ATZ+CGDCONT=1,"IP","ISP.CINGULAR"
For Bluetooth, first you need to install the latest Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows. Don't use the microsoft one. Then just set up a BT Dun connection with the same settings.
Hope that helps...
i've seen a lot of posts about this subject and i'm clueless, now i read the thread form the link provided above and it helps a little, but were do look on my phone to find out what i have? also for at&t users, what's the difference between media max 200, the 19.99 plan and the data connect 39.99 plan, i know the text messaging etc and both are unlimited data, and you "can't" use media max w/a tilt even i've heard you can, but in terms of using the internet and surfing the web what's the difference. Thanks
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cincy1020
Well here's the deal for GPRS. You do not need PDANet. So give your license to someone who is still on CDMA somewhere. You first need to install the driver for the HTC Kaiser/Tilt as a USB Modem. A few forum searches will find the inf to install in windows. Then you simply set up a DUN connection using that USB modem. The number should be *99# and make sure to add this line as extra init options:
ATZ+CGDCONT=1,"IP","ISP.CINGULAR"
For Bluetooth, first you need to install the latest Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows. Don't use the microsoft one. Then just set up a BT Dun connection with the same settings.
Hope that helps...
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Hi:
Thanks for the reply. I already have WModem installed by default. Is this the same thing?
Thanks!
Just use internet sharing. No need to configure a dialup modem/etc.
brainlb,
There doesn't seem to be much difference between the two plans you mentioned. I spoke to AT&T about this and they told me since I have a PDA phone I need the PDA connect plans and according to their system the MediaMax 200 is not compatible with my phone. However, a few people in the forums said they are using the MediaMax 200 plan without any problems. I may try this one day but not sure as yet.
so were on my phone do i look to find out whether i have .wap or .isp, or something else? Thanks
SORRY TO THREAD JACK BUT,
I JUST WANT LIVE UPDATES ON MY PHONE, MOSTLY WEATHER ON MY BACKGROUND. WOULD I NEED THIS?
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph....jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku950103&catId=cat1510009
OR COULD GET A SMALLER DATA PLAN AND UPDATE EVERYTHING WHEN I CONNECT. WHAT IS THE BEST PLAN WITHOUT TETHERING?
Technically its supposed to be a PDA plan for our phones, However, I added the following plan to my sons phone and its been fine .. He doesn't pull tons of data so it hasn't flagged anything. If you don't need text messaging included then I'd look at the following:
Smartphone Connect Unlimited $19.99
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku1040059&catId=cat1510009
I chose that over the MEdiaNet plan as I figured it would cause less suspicion with the data being used.
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Technically its supposed to be a PDA plan for our phones, However, I added the following plan to my sons phone and its been fine .. He doesn't pull tons of data so it hasn't flagged anything. If you don't need text messaging included then I'd look at the following:
Smartphone Connect Unlimited $19.99
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku1040059&catId=cat1510009
I chose that over the MEdiaNet plan as I figured it would cause less suspicion with the data being used.
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THAT PLAN SAYS YOU ARE CHARGED FOR THE DATA YOU SEND AND REVIEVE. WHAT IS MEANT BY DATA SENT AND REVIEVED?, DOES THAT MEAN DOWNLOAD, AS IN RINGTONES?
I JUST TALKED WITH A REP FROM AT&T. THEY TOLD ME THE SMARTPHONE CONNECT UNLIMITED ISN'T FOR THE TILT. ( <AS STATED BY WARLOARD, WHAT PHONE DOES YOU SON HAVE? )
CAN I GET THAT ON MY TILT ANYWAY, AND GET A FAMILY TEXTING PLAN
LIKE THIS, THEN I SHOULD HAVE UNLIMITED DATA AND MY WHOLE FAMILY HAS TEXTING.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph....jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku980095&catId=cat1470003
I have a Tilt and am on a unlimited data plan. Now there is a legal way to tether that Att doesn't tell you about. Current plans selling at the ATT stores have PDA MEdia Connect with messaging. Starting at 39.99 and goes up from there with some referring to tethering. if you do not have a tethering plan you cannot connect to isp.cingular or suppose to. I called up ATT about a issue I had with VOIP needing to access a full internet instead of a wap.cingular proxy internet cause I was on the PDA Media Conenct plan. That how I found out about another plan called PDA Connect Unlimited for 39.99 without messaging that allows wap.cingular and isp.cingular connections. The ATT rep stated as long as you are authorized to connect to isp.cingular you can tether.
Savage Life said:
I JUST TALKED WITH A REP FROM AT&T. THEY TOLD ME THE SMARTPHONE CONNECT UNLIMITED ISN'T FOR THE TILT. ( <AS STATED BY WARLOARD, WHAT PHONE DOES YOU SON HAVE? )
CAN I GET THAT ON MY TILT ANYWAY, AND GET A FAMILY TEXTING PLAN
LIKE THIS, THEN I SHOULD HAVE UNLIMITED DATA AND MY WHOLE FAMILY HAS TEXTING.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph....jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku980095&catId=cat1470003
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Correct most Reps will not add it as they know its not the proper plan. However you can add it yourself in most instances without going thru CS by logging into your ATT online account manager and going to Phone/Device and Add/Remove Features.
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I have a Tilt and am on a unlimited data plan. Now there is a legal way to tether that Att doesn't tell you about. Current plans selling at the ATT stores have PDA MEdia Connect with messaging. Starting at 39.99 and goes up from there with some referring to tethering. if you do not have a tethering plan you cannot connect to isp.cingular or suppose to. I called up ATT about a issue I had with VOIP needing to access a full internet instead of a wap.cingular proxy internet cause I was on the PDA Media Conenct plan. That how I found out about another plan called PDA Connect Unlimited for 39.99 without messaging that allows wap.cingular and isp.cingular connections. The ATT rep stated as long as you are authorized to connect to isp.cingular you can tether.
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The ATT Rep apparently doesn't seem to know what he was talking about which unfortunately happens a lot. They do need to train their CS reps better. Call 5 times and you'll get 4 answers.
First they wrongfully gave you help on VOIP as its against ATTs Wireless Data Services Terms and Conditions:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/plan-terms.jsp
PROHIBITED USES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, USING SERVICES: (I) WITH SERVER DEVICES OR WITH HOST COMPUTER APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, WEB CAMERA POSTS OR BROADCASTS, CONTINUOUS JPEG FILE TRANSFERS, AUTOMATIC DATA FEEDS, TELEMETRY APPLICATIONS, PEER-TO-PEER (P2P) FILE SHARING, AUTOMATED FUNCTIONS OR ANY OTHER MACHINE-TO-MACHINE APPLICATIONS; (II) AS SUBSTITUTE OR BACKUP FOR PRIVATE LINES OR DEDICATED DATA CONNECTIONS; (III) FOR VOICE OVER IP; .....<rest snipped for brevity>....
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And for tethering:
FURTHERMORE, PLANS (UNLESS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR TETHERING USAGE) CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY APPLICATIONS THAT TETHER THE DEVICE (THROUGH USE OF, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, CONNECTION KITS, OTHER PHONE/PDA-TO-COMPUTER ACCESSORIES, BLUETOOTH® OR ANY OTHER WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY) TO LAPTOPS, PCS, OR OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR ANY PURPOSE.
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The CS Rep was correct that if you tether with a handset your supposed to use the isp.cingular APN (or else you'll incur additional data charges) but just because your provisioned to use that APN doesn't automatically mean your authorized to tether without being on a tethering plan. For instance I have the PDA Connect Unlimited plan which include the isp.cingular APN (unlike the PDA Max plans) and I can tell you tethering is not allowed. I've been thru 3 levels of data services support (business/premier support is a lot more trained) on this subject confirming the differences in plans doing research for the ATT forums under the username "Planet-Ed" helping others and working with the moderators their.
Beat em at their own game
ecltech said:
Just use internet sharing. No need to configure a dialup modem/etc.
brainlb,
There doesn't seem to be much difference between the two plans you mentioned. I spoke to AT&T about this and they told me since I have a PDA phone I need the PDA connect plans and according to their system the MediaMax 200 is not compatible with my phone. However, a few people in the forums said they are using the MediaMax 200 plan without any problems. I may try this one day but not sure as yet.
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Looking at a few of the posts here, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents...don't know anything about the tethering, no need for it. As far as the different plans go, if you get an answer u don't like, just call 'em right back up. After I originally got the tilt back in Oct, the cheapest was the bbconnect, which the rep signed me up for, then couldnt tell me how to set it up and ended up taking it off.
you CAN sign up for a couple of the media max/smartphone connect plans on their website, but run the risk of getting charged down the line because those aren't technically data plans, can't remember the exact wording they gave, but not legal for the tilt or other devices which have full keyboards (PDA)...anyways, after about the 3rd call into the reps to get info, one of their geniuses signed me up for the media max unlimited plan w/ 200 messages for $20...he wasn't educated enough to know that it isn't supposed to be used w/ the tilt. The way I see it, they can't go back and overcharge me for being on the wrong plan if THEY signed me up for it...just work the system and use their stupidity for your benefit
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I have a Tilt and am on a unlimited data plan. Now there is a legal way to tether that Att doesn't tell you about. Current plans selling at the ATT stores have PDA MEdia Connect with messaging. Starting at 39.99 and goes up from there with some referring to tethering. if you do not have a tethering plan you cannot connect to isp.cingular or suppose to. I called up ATT about a issue I had with VOIP needing to access a full internet instead of a wap.cingular proxy internet cause I was on the PDA Media Conenct plan. That how I found out about another plan called PDA Connect Unlimited for 39.99 without messaging that allows wap.cingular and isp.cingular connections. The ATT rep stated as long as you are authorized to connect to isp.cingular you can tether.
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Hi:
I am on a PDA unlimited data plan. Can you please tell me what settings you used to setup isp.cingular?
Thanks!
PS: I have searched and searched for the settings, and although I'm sure they are on xda, my search results sure didn't lead me to them.
EDIT: Although I was unable to find the info on XDA. I did find it elsewhere, I haven't yet tried them to see if they work properly, but if not, I guess I will have to spend hours on the fount with tech support to get the correct ones, lol. I will post the settings here just in case anyone needs them:
Under settings/connections/connections:
Look for MY ISP and tap on "add a new modem connection"
Enter a Name for the connection: REAL ISP or something like that
Select a Modem: cellular line (GPRS) for 8125/ cellular line (GPRS 3G) for 8525
use the access point name isp.cingular
On the next page, enter either ISP.CINGULARGPRS.COM or [email protected] (either will work) for username and CINGULAR1 for password (make sure they are all in caps)
Leave Domain name blank
Under advanced, make sure the only things selected are "Use server assigned IP address" and "Use IP header compression" - leave everything else unselected.
Click ok and then finish
PsyOpWarlord said:
And for tethering:
The CS Rep was correct that if you tether with a handset your supposed to use the isp.cingular APN (or else you'll incur additional data charges) but just because your provisioned to use that APN doesn't automatically mean your authorized to tether without being on a tethering plan. For instance I have the PDA Connect Unlimited plan which include the isp.cingular APN (unlike the PDA Max plans) and I can tell you tethering is not allowed. I've been thru 3 levels of data services support (business/premier support is a lot more trained) on this subject confirming the differences in plans doing research for the ATT forums under the username "Planet-Ed" helping others and working with the moderators their.
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So do you happen to know if there IS a plan where tethering is allowed? I also have the PDA Connect Unlimited, and can tether, but don't want to get dinged on my bill so I've been judicious with my use (i.e. emergency only)...
Myabe a better way to ask my question is - how do you get Laptop Connect, do you have to call? It doesn't show up on the website, as I have a family plan - does it need to be a business plan? ugh...
I have a Captivate and I'm considering gretting a tablet... The Cappy is at&t and as free wifi-hotspot service. The Tablet I want to get is wifi-only...
I know I can connect to the wifi-hotspot with my cappy.. Can I tether the tablet to the cappy via bluetooth or some other means so I can use the at&t wifi-hotspot that I already pay for with the cappy?
Tether captivate connect to wifi hotspot
Let me try that again..
I have a Captivate and I'm considering getting a tablet... The Cappy is at&t and has free wifi-hotspot service. The Tablet I want to get is wifi-only...
I know I can connect to the wifi-hotspot with my cappy.. Can I tether the tablet to the cappy via bluetooth or some other means so I can use the at&t wifi-hotspot that I already pay for with the cappy?
of course, why can't you? if you pay for tethering - tether, but the client will be not laptop but tablet. there is no difference for AT&T AFAIK. only lower data usage + higher battery, cos you might wanna to have internet on tablet al time?
Yuna said:
of course, why can't you? if you pay for tethering - tether, but the client will be not laptop but tablet. there is no difference for AT&T AFAIK. only lower data usage + higher battery, cos you might wanna to have internet on tablet al time?
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You missed OP's point entirely. For AT&T smartphone with paid data plans, you can use AT&T wi-fi hot spot for free (otherwise, you need to pay for it). In order to do that AT&T adds its own special software to its Smartphone so that it will auto-authentiate with the hot-spot and use it for free.
So to answer OP's question, no you will not be able to use your tab on hot-spot for free. Only the AT&T smartphone are allowed. And no, Cappy does not have bluetooth tethering capability.
Besides, the only place I saw AT&T hot spot is McDonalds. If you bought anything in McDonalds, you can already use the hot spot for free (just ask them). So, I don't see this helps much.
Cappy does have wi-fi hot spot feature built-in (Froyo or later) so that you can share the cell data connection with your tab. But it requires you to subscribe to tethering plan. If you already rooted your phone, you can easily remove that restiction.
Hello Everyone.
I am using a VPN and the Wifi Tether Router paid app from the market. I am curious as to how T-mobile still knows I am tethering, as I just got a "You used 80% of your High speed data" text from them (Have unlimited data plan)
Any ideas on how to completely hide? SSL? Proxy? Only seem to have issues with the Playstation and not the PC....
Any help appreciated...
The PS4 data probably shows up different on the network than PC data. I've read that T-Mobile put some new things in place on their end to identify data usage being masked.
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I saw similar results. I noticed that when I tether, it doesn't route me through my openVPN connection regardless of the tethering method I use. You can test this on your own, fire up the vpn, then tether to your PC, then go check the external IP on your PC.
You'll most likely need a non-stock ROM for it to work. The ROM probably reports all MACs and the traffic passing through it to T-MO.
Try this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3071188
Is there any app or "fix" to enable wifi tethering on a G870A running 5.1.1 using Straight Talk? Tried FoxF, PdaNet+ and a host of playstore junk. Nothing.
I don't think if there is a native wifi tethering fix anymore. However USB tethering seems to work (tested on G900A). Have you tried ClockworkMod Tether? You will need to install the a client on the PC as well as the APK on the phone.
Can't use the USB tethering for the application I need it for.
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Can't use the USB tethering for the application I need it for.
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What application is it? EasyTether can handle some complex setups.
I need Wi-Fi for the car radio. No USB option there.
Assuming the phone is not rooted, you might be out of luck at the moment. I'm guessing that you want to share your unlimited data plan. Have you looked at how much data you have used in the past few months? Just wondering if a different service provider might be a better choice in your case.
Really don't use that much data even though its unlimited. I have an aftermarket radio that I would like to use the phone's data. Works great with my "retired S4" but have since started using the S5.
719c6 said:
Really don't use that much data even though its unlimited. I have an aftermarket radio that I would like to use the phone's data. Works great with my "retired S4" but have since started using the S5.
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You may want to consider looking into ProjectFi and getting a Nexus phone for the service, that is my plan for my next phone which includes tethering by design. When I did the math, it turned out that my bill will go down and the savings would pay for the Nexus phone. $20 for the line + a penny for each megabyte.