Flash with 3D camera - LG Thrill 4G

Is it just me or is the camera's flash disabled in 3d mode?
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Agreed. It appears to be disabled.
I also tried to run the flashlight app and open the camera, but it wouldn't allow me to open the camera app if the flashlight app was running.

I think the reason is because the lighting would be slightly off on the two images so when they combine to make the 3D effect it would mess things up.
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Agreed.
My friend has the HTC EVO 3D and he was * himself over how awesome of a photo I got, so went to take a comparison photo with his phone...IT FLASHED! I was soo confused.
The picture I took came out better (the image was close up to and the dynamic range of 3D is much higher between 1 and 6ft so anything with a flash everything will look awkwardly bright with that much flash...as his picture came out.)

Also, there is a custom camera app out there (might have been for the optimus 3d) but it might offer a solution.

Well if the Flash on the Evo 3D is washing out the pictures with too much light there is probably a reason they set it for no Flash when taking a 3D picture.

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[Q] Camera

Love the phone, especially with the Revolt 1.5 ROM, but I hate the camera. The camera lag, time between touching the button and getting a picture, is terrible. So bad, I can't use it to pictures of people/pets in candid moments. Tried taking photos of my boss opening her birthday gifts. All I got was blurry photos of her face buried in the next gift, not the photo of joy of her opening gifts.
Is there anything that can be done? a setting maybe, or a software issue that a future ROM could fix?
Love the phone, other than the damn camera!
edwalsh said:
Love the phone, especially with the Revolt 1.5 ROM, but I hate the camera. The camera lag, time between touching the button and getting a picture, is terrible. So bad, I can't use it to pictures of people/pets in candid moments. Tried taking photos of my boss opening her birthday gifts. All I got was blurry photos of her face buried in the next gift, not the photo of joy of her opening gifts.
Is there anything that can be done? a setting maybe, or a software issue that a future ROM could fix?
Love the phone, other than the damn camera!
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You could try a different camera app. I personally haven't had issues with the stock camera, but I've been using camera advance pro. More features and seems to work smoother
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Get a real camera? I haven't noticed anything to terrible but this thing isn't a real camera to me.. I have a 60D for that
The only thing that can really be done is inside the settings menu itself. Change the focus mode to face tracking, and turn flash off. The bad part is when you change the settings it does not hold once close the app.
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mtmichaelson:
thanks for suggestion. I am trying Advanced Camera. The shutter lag is much less; so that is great. Also I like aLL the options and look forward to getting to use them all. BUT, there is a proble. The app has locked up twice on me and it only has been 1 hour.
xjli:
I have had and will soon get a dedicated camera, but I would like to be able to capture spontaneous shots whenever the opportunity arises. I always have my phone; won't always have a camera. The Advanced Camera app might be the answer if the force closes go away.
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Get a real camera? I haven't noticed anything to terrible but this thing isn't a real camera to me.. I have a 60D for that
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I've got a 30D. Love it but doesn't exactly fit in my pocket hehe.
I've noticed turning the flash off helps with the delay. And as I'm sure xjili will agree, you should almost never have that damn thing on anyway. Flash ruins the white balance / color of photos and makes them look horrible. Easily the most over/mis-used feature of any camera.
My personal favorite is when people use the flash when taking a picture of something far away... Do they really think their built-in flash has a range of 50 meters? But I digress...
Does Camera Advance have any sort of "shaky hand" compensation feature? Awhile back I purchased Camera ZOOM FX for my original Droid; it had that option and it actually worked really well. I totally forgot about it until now, but I'll install it, see how it works on the Revo, and post a review of some sort.
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I've got a 30D. Love it but doesn't exactly fit in my pocket hehe.
I've noticed turning the flash off helps with the delay. And as I'm sure xjili will agree, you should almost never have that damn thing on anyway. Flash ruins the white balance / color of photos and makes them look horrible. Easily the most over/mis-used feature of any camera.
My personal favorite is when people use the flash when taking a picture of something far away... Do they really think their built-in flash has a range of 50 meters? But I digress...
Does Camera Advance have any sort of "shaky hand" compensation feature? Awhile back I purchased Camera ZOOM FX for my original Droid; it had that option and it actually worked really well. I totally forgot about it until now, but I'll install it, see how it works on the Revo, and post a review of some sort.
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From what I've seen, there is no stabilization feature, however three is an option for a burst about, which takes three images in rapid succession. That could get a clear shot if you have the shakes
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Had this phone for a while and did not know about this! Thanks, gotta try this out.
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From what I've seen, there is no stabilization feature, however three is an option for a burst about, which takes three images in rapid succession. That could get a clear shot if you have the shakes
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Camera ZOOM FX seems to work very well, lots of features including the stabilization feature, but the accelerometer in the Revo appears to be too sensitive to make use of this.
Other features:
*Burst shot. You can set the delay between each photo as well as how many to take (up to 14).
*Add effects to your photos, with lots of effects available for download in the market if you're into that kind of thang.
*Can be set as default camera app.
*Timer delayed shot. Also has an option to take photo when you clap, but I haven't tested that.
*You can set swiping left/right/up/down to various functions like changing white balance, antibanding, zooming in/out, et al.
*Digital zoom seems to work pretty well.
*Haven't had any FC problems, and it definitely snaps photos faster.
*I like the interface considerably more than the stock one. Will get some screen caps if anyone expresses interest.
I'm definitely gonna be using this I instead of the stock camera. No problems shooting video with it either.
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[Q]about camera and lag

i got my note last week and have playing with it and loved it...i previously have s2 but since i saw note in the mall...i have fallen in love with it
but somethings bothering me..
before i take a pic ...it was clear perhaps hd but after taking the picture and
i look the the gallery ... the pictue look maybe a little dark...or dim
maybe a setting will fix this ?
and lag in waking up? about 2-3 ?
thx for the help pips
I think this is the nature of this camera. When we try shoot a pic the visual which we see in display is before image processing after click image sensor do some modification to the image and it delivers to gallery. So probably this is not a defect or problem... its designed like that..and i don't think samsung phones are known for good quality shooter. No offense.
are you using the stock camera? i have noticed that other camera apps works much better compared to the stock one, my favorite is camera zoom fx, paid app though, for me it gives better pictures compared to the stock one. there are plenty of good free ones out there too. have a look around the play store =]
It's a brightness difference. When you load the stock camera the phone brightness goes really high (you can even make it brighter by switching outdoor visibility on). After taking a picture and going to gallery, you're screen goes back to original brightness that's why it looks dim/blurred but it's not.
usoppp said:
are you using the stock camera? i have noticed that other camera apps works much better compared to the stock one, my favorite is camera zoom fx, paid app though, for me it gives better pictures compared to the stock one. there are plenty of good free ones out there too. have a look around the play store =]
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You are right.. Stock camera app is little bad.. Evn though if we are using another good app finally lens and image sensor matters.. I don't think samy is using better lens than Carl zies or something. I would say samy and HTC are little poor compared to nokia's and son's lens (of thinking they both use same lenses). This is upto my knowledge.. Correct me if am wrong.

Lg Camera App - Finally im not embarrased of my photos.

Hey all
I have been so frustrated with the camera on this phone as it takes barely passable photos in daylight but low light its almost impossible to take photos that are focusd and aren't full of noise. The HDR shot is quite good but nothing special.
Also the photos are a little zoomed in and squashed down if compared against objects you've take the pic of.
So i searched around and came across Lg camera in the market.
It has a free version which seems fully featured which bugs you for purchasing it every now and again. The aspect ratio of the pics is correct and tt takes excellent low light shots especially with flash on and has less noise and focuses perfectly.
Just thought I'd share it see what people thought.
Cheers.
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
Kassassin said:
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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+1 on this, I kinda kiss the old camera app.
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Just tried it. The quality of the pictures doesn't even change.
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Sorry to say but its totally different pics on mine to stock camera. If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me in low light and has no focusing issues at all even in a pitch black room with flash on.
You can also set infinity focus which eliminates all need to focus at all so for me lg camera fixes the problem
Also the aspect ratios in the photos on stock camera are totally different when compared to lg camera so maybe you need to compare the pictures side by side. Lg camera is true to the scene, Google camera squashes everything down. Also the Google camera is zoomed in further than lg camera.
My phone has no focusing issues with this app now.
Camera zoom fx isn't really a camera app more of a toy but anyway hope it helps someone as its sorted the camera form me and I'm very picky.
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
zephiK said:
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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That is for video...
There are many camera apps.I like camera zoom.. Works well..
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But I take it only the stock camera app supports photosphere?
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Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
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Please do!
I tried lgCamera as well as other camera apps and saw no significant difference.
There are several aspects to the bad pictures problem.
- One is the limitations of the camera module which no app can fix.
- Then there's camera calibration. The LG Optimus 4X HD has the same camera module
but produces photos with less noise. There's room for improvement here but it is most
likely going to happen with a firmware update.
- Proper metering and scene evaluation will no doubt increase the picture quality.
Manual control is one avenue to peruse this but I haven't come across and app that
gives exclusive control over ISO and shutter speed. Some apps let you select one and
then automatically adjust the other.
Check out Camera FV-5.
biffsmash said:
If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me
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this just made me lol
because you cant see anything that means your phone must be faulty!:laugh:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
zivan56 said:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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jmudrick said:
Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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The camera app *suggests* the compression it would like, it doesn't do the compression itself. The userspace module instructs the camera kernel module to do the compression, and the build in DSP in the Qualcomm chip does the actual compression.
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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this is a great app!!
but how to solve "widescreen viewfinder" no effect
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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But it wants too many permissions.

Camera zoom fx/third party camera apps

I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
Probably wait and see what the 4.3 update will bring to the camera before even spending money on buying anything.
gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I found the LG camera app to be excellent. It's taking some great shots on my Z1. Mind you, I'm no photo expert so I could be wrong but I just did a compare with some 20mp shots on the manual mode with stock cam and the 20mp shots with the LG app. Found the LG app much better as I can't be bothered with tweaking settings. Most shots I take need to be completed within 2-3 secs. I also tried FXcameraZoom and wasn't too happy with it.
DAddYE said:
I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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gumbsy1 said:
So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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Exactly
DAddYE said:
Exactly
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a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
gioiellino said:
a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
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Tried that one too, I didn't see any substantial difference
after several tests Pro Capture is my favourite camera app
faster, more precise and better focus than stock
special support for Xperia Z1 (optimized algorithm and 16/9 wide 20MPX)
better auto mode performance than stock superior auto
macro have more sharp details
sometimes I use stock camera because it can handle ISO level and if I have a lot of light I can set ISO 50 and reduce the exposure to obtein perfect panorama images

Could someone post the camera apk from KitKat?

I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
RErick said:
Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
BewareAlbatross said:
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.

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