Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
Jtblkice said:
can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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Yep.
Your laptop only has an HDMI out.
webtop adapter
what exacly is the webtop adapeter
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
jpen said:
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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at the vzw store the adapter has 2 more usb ports on it and the rep was saying you could use those ports to put the wireless adapters in to make a keyboard and mouse work. not sure if it works i just overheard the convo between him and a customer.
Jtblkice said:
Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
Banggugyangu said:
I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
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how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
barry99705 said:
He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
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Thats what I was hoping to hear....I want to buy the adapter but I'm afraid someone will come out with the hack as soon as i do.
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I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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I have a Lenovo with an HDMI port.
Any finding anything interesting about the adapter. VZW rep gave me one at a discount for a problem with my bill.
With the ammount of money ans headaches you would spend to do be able to do that, you're probably better off just trying to find the docking station for the bionic and selling your laptop.
FYI, the Droid BIONIC Support Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse.
I Use the same on I use for my Tablet.
but here's a keyboard made by moto. A co-worker has it, and he loves it he says
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ess-Accessories/Atrix-Wireless-Keyboard-US-EN
Pretty sure there is software out there than does it... But its only the size of the phone screen... Look in google code
Has anyone cracked open a Webtop adapter yet to actually see what is inside?
Considering there is that cardock hack which was pretty much just drilling a hole and adding a micro-HDMI cable, the only thing triggering Webtop vs. mirroring mode might be a magnet.
I would love to find that out to be true. A four dollar cable from ebay is a lot better than the 30$? they charge for the adapter....
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Just wondering, since some of the newer tablets let you hook up mini usb devices to it and so. Was wondering if there had been any adapters yet or so for us streak 7 users? Would be cool to get a wired controller hooked up and so.
You would need an OTG cable to do that, as dell doesnt make any you will have to make your own or use the HDMI dock.
Well I have the HDMI Dock, so I could use the dock then insert the usb device to that? Was thinking about getting that Logitech F710 with that usb dongle, heard it had support for android. What else would I need? Or hows that work fully.
As for the non dock part, has anyone made a cable yet to work?
if your device had a usb-a connector you have no choice then but to make a cable.
the sixaxis/ds3 uses a mini usb connector and might work though usb,
I know it and the wiimote will work over bt, with the wiimote being the easier to pair one.
Well I have the wiimote working fine, Issue there is.. Yea.. Battery drain on that remote. So figured maybe getting a adapter. I guess I need a USB to Mini micro usb? (The new style mini usb thing.. man I miss the old big RAZR size ones) How many of you have used a HID device or so on android or the streak 7?
you'd need to splice together the dock connector to preferably a USB-A female port, it'd be the most useful as you'd have a cable that could accept anything, but it'd mean you'd always need a minimum of 2 cables.
You'd also have to dissemble to dock connector itself i believe as the OTG pins are different from what's wired in the normal sync/charge cables, you cant simply cut the cable and rewire it, you'd prob have to cut the dock connector open and resolder
If you made a dock to micro usb connector it'd only accept devices that have a micro usb port on it.
Keep in mind usb mode means that the controller would be drawing power from the device itself, while controllers dont draw that much, it's still something to point out
Wouldnt this be all I need?
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B0016RNX2I/ref=pd_sbs_e_4
Would take the normal size usb dongle or cord, fits into the USB slot of the dock itself.
I havnt actually tried it but it sounds like that should work, i know that port is designed for otg connections so i'd assume it'd take care of the hard work.
When on 2.2.2 Did I need a special program for this to work? I know 3.x had native support. Just wondering. =) (Or can any game/emulator with key remapping auto detect)
if it's anything like the hoops needed for the s5 on 2.2.x yes, unless dell included their own code stuff to make it work, then i'm not sure.
I've never attached a controller to anything, wired or not so I can only say that much
Wonder what the app would be called or so, anyone know? I mean I ordered the part, should be here in a few days, then I can report any tests I have with a Rumblepad 2.
Ok tested it out, So far nada. Dont know if its even supposed to work.
Has anyone here hooked a wired controller up to their android? Running Honeycomb now too.
I know people talk about the F710, which I wonder if that works cause its battery powered?
So what's the verdict guys? Can a controller or other USB device be connected to the mini USB port on the docking station and work? If not, will it work if you plug in a mini USB OTG cable (like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-Re...757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6edf5335) into the docking station and then plug the controller into the OTG cable?
So far my verdict is nada.. dont think its supplying power to the usb ports. Now its been said that adapter based ones may work, something where controller is powered by batteries. Tho again. No one ever gives a real confirm.
My next area to branch out is http://www.onlive.com/controller 50$ but you can use a adapter for the pc. However it also works with bluetooth, something that the tablet DOES support and no adapter needed. Since I have the onlive app, least it will work 100% for THAT. Once my tax money comes in, Ill order the controller and see if it can work on emulators and so too. least then we will have 1 solid answer that has some good use. (Since honestly, onlive on the tablet really isnt bad at all!)
Why not bluetooth your ps3 controller though the sixaxis app on the market thats what I've done works great
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I have used my Wii remote that way
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To answer both. If I am not mistaken. PS3 controllers have to be "paired". Which means when you wanna play PS3 or Tablet.. got to re-pair them all the time, correct?
Wii-Motes I know you dont have to re-pair them. However.. one thing I hate... that to use the classic controller.. you need to have the Wiimote laying around somewhere.. then the cable for classic. Seems bulky for normal use.
Both controllers all are battery too. Would be nice for wired solutions. If I do anything wireless, I may as well get that Onlive controller with BT support.
If you have a sixaxis/DS3 dedicated to non-ps3 use: you only have to re-pair it every time you want to use it on a different device.
The sixaxis/ds3 do work in usb mode, at least on pcs. I dont recall if there's a solution to use it in usb mode on android (though i'd imagine it should, as usb mode is trivial to enable)
If you only have a single device to use it with, you only ever need to pair it once and then you're done.
Well, I finally went and tried hooking up a usb hub to my S7, and my results were absolute failures.
I bought an OTG <-> dell 30 pin a while back and a standard OTG <-> dock cable.
I dont have a baseline as I dont know offhand which kernels are specifically tested to work.
It seems to enable the hub (by enable I mean it powers up on detection of a host, it's wall powered)
on my S5 with ICS/Phoenix kernal (which is known to support usb hosting), but nada on my S7 with ICS B4/mod and stock 514.
Can anyone explicitly confirm that the b4 and stock kernals work with host?
I'm pretty sure nothing is happening on either of those, and as it works fine on my S7 it's definitely not bad cables/hardware.
Edit: at least the S5 is even capable of powering the hub itself, and with a dock it can charge at the same time. If it wernt for the terrible HDMI out on it, it would be a full on android pc with the dock.
The S7 on the other hand: I still cant get anything, remotely powered or self powered: it gives no response
I can tell you, yes, ICS kernel does have otg drivers but may not provide power to those devices.
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I have a rooted Bionic running kinetix rom (latest) and I am trying to use the Motorola Usb otg Cable (89454N) to use a standard usb mouse. However, when I plug in the mouse nothing happens and the optical light does not turn on on the bottom of the mouse. That mouse is tested and working on a computer and I have also tried using a wireless rf mouse. I did quite a bit of research on the net about this and someone was saying that the Bionic micro usb port does not output enough power to support it so they used a powered usb hub and that worked for them. Now, I did the same and hooked up my powered usb hub and plugged in power and hooked it to my phone and Bionic and now the light turns on but still does not work on the phone. (no mouse icon pops up and no response). This is the case for phone by itself, mirror mode on the tv, and webtop via hdmi hack. Any advice or help on this would be much appreciated. Or has anyone successfully used a mouse on their bionic? if so what setup (rom, mouse, cable etc) ?
I use a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse, works great. No need for any cables or extraneous hardware.
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I'd like to avoid buying new equipment. I've seen a lot of people with bt mice working. Thanks though.
SaddleTramp said:
I use a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse, works great. No need for any cables or extraneous hardware.
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I got the bluetooth mouse and keyboard from Motorola's website for $30. One of the best deals that I have ever come across. The keyboard alone is normally twice the price.
I have gotten regular usb wireless mice to work on my Galaxy Tab to work just fine with it's dongle. Are you sure that your dongle is working correctly?
Are you docking your Bionic?
On the back of the HD dock there are 3 USB ports and that would have enough power to power the mouse. I would run the Webtop hack and get an HD dock if I were you. I've done it and it works great!
Sorry to revive an oldie, but I have an answer. The Bionic's USB host mode requires extra power(i.e. needs to be charging) in order to work. As of this moment, other than the HD dock or lapdock, there are only a few hit-or-miss options. (Edit)There's a thread in the RAZR forums that could hold the solution.
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I have not yet rooted my phone to start, but I bought the "travel adapter" that launches the web top app. Well it requires a Bluetooth mouse. Plug it all in I figure the screen would be like a track pad but no the cursor just sits there and doesn't move. Motorola said I need a Bluetooth mouse. Is there a way to not need a Bluetooth mouse? I would gladly root if needed... in the event that there is not a way will any Bluetooth mouse work?
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bluetooth mice and keyboards etc.
pretty much any bluetooth device will work yes, with varying amounts of compatibility, much of what can be tweaked by software remapping to suit your needs... im currently looking into similar things bc i want to be able to take advantage of webtop etc. i purchased a moto HD dock, which has an HDMI output, 3.5mm headphone output, and a micro usb connection for charging. its a very nice dock, but it is lacking additional USB ports for connecting peripherals such as a wireless kb/mouse combo which kinda upsetted me, so i may get rid of it and purchase the more expensive one which has 3 usb ports for peripherals etc.. therefore i wont need to worry about fussing with bluetooth, and ill also save myself some money hehe.. let me know if you have any more input or if you get to try out any bluetooth mice etc bc like i said... im in the same sitch!
How well does sharing the bluetooth mouse with a netbook and xt894 work?
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Has anyone tried using the GN2 with a Smart Dock in combination with an Atrix Lapdock?
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You will need a micro hdmi adapter. It will and can work, but it will simply mirror the display of your phone.
I've seen the same question asked on the S3 forums. People have even hooked up PS3's to their lapdocks.
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Yes, some sort of adapter would be needed to connect the HDMI from the Smart Dock to the Lapdock. The keyboard and trackpad should work, though, so it will do more than mirror the display, I believe.
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Anyone able to make lapdock work with Note 2?
Also any idea where I could pick a Atrix Lapdock up?
OwenW71 said:
Yes, some sort of adapter would be needed to connect the HDMI from the Smart Dock to the Lapdock. The keyboard and trackpad should work, though, so it will do more than mirror the display, I believe.
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uhhh, dont see why the keyboard and trackpad would work from a hdmi connection alone. you'd need to connect the usb as well to enable input. then it just mirrors the display and lets you use keyboard and trackpad.
it wont give you the full atrix lapdock software suite as that was installed on the atrix itself, not on the dock.
Keyboard and track pad should work since smartdock uses 11 pin to use both HDMI and USB OTG. Has any one tried?
If we could somehow hack the power, by patching the microUSB out of lapdock, we could potentially have a stand alone laptop. Any ideas? do any experts think it is feasible?
Souai said:
uhhh, dont see why the keyboard and trackpad would work from a hdmi connection alone. you'd need to connect the usb as well to enable input. then it just mirrors the display and lets you use keyboard and trackpad.
it wont give you the full atrix lapdock software suite as that was installed on the atrix itself, not on the dock.
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nipuna said:
Keyboard and track pad should work since smartdock uses 11 pin to use both HDMI and USB OTG. Has any one tried?
If we could somehow hack the power, by patching the microUSB out of lapdock, we could potentially have a stand alone laptop. Any ideas? do any experts think it is feasible?
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It should work fine, but I don't own one to test with. The basic idea is to build/buy adapters to connect things up with. If you have a SmartDock, that will get the phone side handled. Do a google for people using the lapdock with Raspberry Pi boards. They have all the details for interfacing to it. I think they even power the Pi with the battery in the lapdock, so you could charge your phone with it if the SmartDock allows for that, which I think it does. At the end of the day, the lapdock is a pretty "dumb" device, it takes standard inputs like HDMI/USB, and doesn't seem to have anything to restrict it to working only with the Atrix.
Can smart dock of SGN2 work on our phone? it work on S3, may be someone try if possible
If not working then may be anyone can help with similar alternative, I require HDMI + USB Port for devices thats all I want.
I am talking about something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Smart-Docking/dp/B009QW3TBK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Thanks!
shazmekool said:
Can smart dock of SGN2 work on our phone? it work on S3, may be someone try if possible
If not working then may be anyone can help with similar alternative, I require HDMI + USB Port for devices thats all I want.
I am talking about something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Smart-Docking/dp/B009QW3TBK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Thanks!
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The S3 (and probably also the SGN2) use an alternative micro-USB connection with extra pins that allows to use USB OTG and HML simultaneously. The 4x HD doesn't have that, so the dock could never work on our phone. There do exist docks with only a normal microUSB connection that you could use for HML (HDMI).
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The S3 (and probably also the SGN2) use an alternative micro-USB connection with extra pins that allows to use USB OTG and HML simultaneously. The 4x HD doesn't have that, so the dock could never work on our phone. There do exist docks with only a normal microUSB connection that you could use for HML (HDMI).
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Thats really sad, I was hoping to be able to use my wired PS3 controller along with MHL TV connection simultaneously. I assume our phone uses similar pins setup as HTC OneX hope atleast HTC finds a way to do it
u can use a ps3 controller with Sixaxis controller using bluetooth, works great