So I was over in the Atrix forums the other night because there was someone over there who was wanting some help deciding if they should ditch their Atrix for the Thrill 4G. The overwhelming amount of posts about some of the hitches with the Thrill were in regards to the battery consumption and the RAM getting hammered with general usage.
Over here since a bunch of us are actively doing doing what we can to try and speed the development along having being trying new things and tweaking this or that in an attempt to make some progress toward real development.
Here is a link to what I said over there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17448824#post17448824
So I was running back through all the apps. and such that I had used in the past on other phones and hidden in my lengthy list of apps. used to get every ounce of power out of whatever phone I was jacking with, was SuperPower. I had the paid version but it has subsequently been ditched and redone it seems and now takes the form of a BETA.
This BETA I dropped onto my Thrill and started to go through the options that are available on this version that were not there before. You can now manually go into SuperPower and tell the app. what program you want it to kill when the screen goes black, how you want wi-fi and/or radios to behave, etc. It is extremely customizable.
Until there is a custom ROM and all that for the Thrill I think we are going to have to do our best to manage the few minute undesirables this device has with things like SuperPower. So, my end result as it stands right now on battery and RAM usage, I am using a few different apps. and I will list the links below for your convenience; is after about 10 1/2 hours of fairly mid to heavy use I was sitting at about 71 % battery life. Understand I let the battery go down below 20 % then charged it back up to 100 % with no interruptions in the charging process. You should do this at least once a month just maintain good battery health and longevity anyway. Especially on powerhouse phones like the Thrill 4G.
Now when I say mid to heavy usage this is my interpretation of that; regular talk time throughout the day, 100+ text during the day, market and music downloads, 2D and 3D gaming. When it was time to charge again I was at 13 or so hours with 49 % battery still showing. Not to bad as it was blowing through battery like it was free before.
Here are the apps. I used with download links. If you have questions or anything let me know or PM me:
SuperPower BETA v 0.80(*Must be rooted by the way to use this*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=SuperPower
Chainsfire 3D(*must be rooted*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=Chainsfire&so=1&c=apps
*As a side note besides the other great benefits this app. offers what I use to help with battery usage is the Night Mode feature*
SPB Shell 3D (*This is a paid app. and worth every penny IMO. But if you are not down with dropping the change for it use LauncherPro or one of the other free Launchers out there*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=spb+shell+3d+&so=1&c=apps
Advanced Task Manager
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.arron.taskManagerFree&feature=search_result
Hotspot Guru
https://market.android.com/search?q=Hotspot+Guru&so=1&c=apps
Besides what I listed as benefits for SuperPower there are a ton more that I have not even touched on. This app is jam-packed full of modding goodness. get the app. and use at your own risk kind of thing and explore this bad boy because its a doozy. Lol! Hope this helps.
What are you doing specifically on the Superpower app to get such good battery life?
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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00mred00 said:
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
Thanks! As for apps...that isn't the issue for sure. There are a number of things the phone does quickly but there are a few it does not. The camera does concern me. When I open the three d can it just goes blank screen for a while and then finally comes up.
Hell even typing at times everything will occassionally just pause for a few.
I haven't given up yet. I am going to hard reset and give her one more go
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Personally, I have been using "Autokiller Memory Optimizer," which is NOT a task killer, but allows you to set memory limits.
This may be overly aggressive, but this is the setup I have been using, and it has been treating me very well. From top to bottom, in MB (from "foreground app" to "empty app"): 18 / 24 / 32 /100 / 125 / 150
I may tweak it down a little, but in general this setup has allowed me to multitask between apps really quickly, while Android "kills" the apps I'm no longer using. Highly recommended for (rooted) Thrill users!
While I'm at it, another useful (paid, requires root) tool for the thrill is "Autostarts."
With what I have done so far with SuperPower and such my phone is flying right along and running consistently with between 186 and 202 mb of available memory. So with the processor and RAM hauling ass I am loving this phone. I am can't wait for some some stuff to come down the pipe for this phone. There is definitely a lot of BS stuff running hidden that can slow it down but with SuperPower and the task killer and all the stuff I talked about when I started the thread I am so far satisfied.
Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
I'm returning mine. I either put too many apps, get too many defective phones, or just need a phone with more memory. Never had running out of application room on the Captivate or Inspire.
Camera can take up to 8-10 seconds to finally come on. This is a pain when I want some quick shots of the kids at the moment.
Mine also freezes up while I'm using the keyboard whether it's the stock or swiftkey or better keyboard. This is the 2nd thrill I've had and same issues. So that leaves pretty much the GS2 that's coming out. And Samsung scares me.
Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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I will play with it again but i recall it doing nothing. it looks like the settings have been changed but they do not stick. Running a few benchmarks showed processor still running at full speed
I did a factory reset...will play with it when i get everything loaded up again.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Haven't done any benchmark tests, my conclusion just came based on the results of improved battery
life to be completely honest.
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SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
Not a problem my good friend, I'm a huge fan of this device and the potentials it possess, I am glad to be a part of any improvements that can be made.
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I am a goon...underclock works perfectly fine
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
47r0n1n said:
SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
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I can't find this settings under super power? Do I need to have a paid version of this app?
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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Can you post your setcpu settings?
I'm running my CPU at 600000mHz max and 300000mHz min for normal use, and babe a profile that sets it to 300000mHz max and min with the screen off. Have all my profiles set for "on demand" so it only ramps up the CPU when it needs it
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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Hi all. Im due an upgrade i summer. Im looking At this phone or the desire s. But is this phone buggy? Is the dua core really something special? Reviews on the 2x arent too good atm, the phone has many negative points abt it! It was like that with my tg01. I got it because it was the worlds first 1ghz phone. (just like this is the worlds first dual core) my tg01 has soo mamy bugs with it and it was rushed out. Is the 2x like this? I hear it is very buggy. I dont want to get another phone like my tg01 where i rely on custom roms for the phone to be usable.
So long story short, is this phone good? Is dual core something special? Or is speed more or less the same as single cores? Some ppl say that dual core is not needed with android.. Is this true?
Sorry for the quick messy typing (not on pc) and looking for some quick answers!
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bump :')
anyone?
Its GPU is a bit ahead of the Samsung's... The CPU is far ahead. In Smartbench 2011 I score 4142CPU and 2953GPU and no samsung devices are even on the charts (with 1.4ghz OC but still stock is a lot better, and I would recommend installing a custom rom...). The call quality can be quite bad until you flash the baseband but after that it should be great. I have nothing bad to say about this phone, and when 2.4 comes out it will only get better (2.4 is rumored to come with real dual-core support)
Even though mine's been working quite well for past 2 weeks as my daily phone, there are also people who are quite fed up with theirs.
I hadn't read xda's user reviews prior to getting mine, but if I were to get another 2x now, I would wait for LG to provide a firmware update that significantly reduces the lock-up/reboot/battery drain issues. It's just to be perfectly sure that I will get one as stable (or more so) than my existing 2x.
I believe the battery drain issue can be fixed manually. just need a through check on whats running and how
thank you all for replies!
(xilw3r sorry i have run out if thanks!)
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so most issues will be fixed with updates? but does the phone need to use a custom rom to be usable? is lg's ui good?
and is dualcore really much of a difference? do you notice a giant speed difference betweeen other android phones, or is it overhyped?
is battery life good on this? how long heavy use can it last under wifi?
im really stuck considering this and the
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LG ui is laggy and a personal choice, i use lancher pro plus. heavy use and wifi battery lasts a few hours.
Battery doesnt last a day with low usage for me. 5-10% per hour on standby. With 3g on and mail twitter etc sync every 60 minutes. my old hero lasts longer with heavier use
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Can't comment much on the performance or UI as I moved over from Symbian. Though, it's much smoother in its user interaction than my son's LG Optimus One, but that's single core, 600mhz.
On days that I don't play much with it and actually use it like a typical work phone, the battery remains above 50% by 6pm. I think usually about 1 to 1.5 hour talk, hourly email auto-checks, less than half-hour of browsing and less than 20 SMSes. I am not a heavy user: I don't IM at all, nor GPS or game much. Just typical work-type usage.
Note: I switch off wifi when I am out of the house and rely on 3G for data connection. I find that keeps the battery lasting longer.
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LG ui is laggy and a personal choice, i use lancher pro plus. heavy use and wifi battery lasts a few hours.
Battery doesnt last a day with low usage for me. 5-10% per hour on standby. With 3g on and mail twitter etc sync every 60 minutes. my old hero lasts longer with heavier use
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then you have some application/service/process running roque
Mine easily last 10 hours in standby with only 1% battery use (wifi and 3g and autosync enabled)
if you have 5-10% drain per hour on standby, you have some application/service/process not going to sleep as it should, using cpu and power, and preventing your phone from entering standby mode.
Thats not a problem of the phone - but a software issue that you as user need to investigate and solve
with low usage I easily get 2 days running - with moderate use 1½ - and with heavy use 1 full day.
No strange processes running here, spent a few days of testing with different roms aswell drain still exists
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thanks fir responses! i was gonna say 5-10 drainage in an hr is bad! is the a common problem? i heard abt these battey issues!
Battery usage:
16h after power was unplugged, I still have around 40-45% of battery. Low usage (WiFi/3G on, a few calls, gTalk, but no email sync activated).
ROM: 10b
"Proof": dl.dropbox.com/u/1337791/android/2011-04-07%2001.15.23.png
Thank you all for responses much aprrecisted
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I relly want this phone but im not sure about it anymore.. i read so many many many big bugs about it, and seems that almost EVERYONE is having them..
optimus one was a great phone with dew bugs, why cant they make the same quality on a HIGHER END handset lol :S ?
If you look through the forums of any phone, there will be a lot of people talking about how they have some sort of problem.
Nexus S
yea but o2x is A LOT, mean u have 60 page thead about reboot issues.... that doesnt look too promising ..
You can always return it if you have too many problems
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The stores have em already, G-slate and G2x. Played with both today, I know the manager in store but before somebody make a dumb comment pertaining to that, aint nuttin top secret and no special info was bestowed on me because of who I know. The stores just have them stocked already. The slate is nice though, good build, nice size and weight, kinda reminded me of the ipad but lighter. Honeycomb makes our phones look like gameboy colors.
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But the G2x was also better than my expectations! By far blows most of the others out of water.
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Hi all. Im due an upgrade i summer.
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By the summer? This phone will be old news then.
Just got my note I was wondering if people could share their tips on how to get great battery life on the note!
any tips (even the most basic) will help all us first time Android users
So share your tips, apps, settings, etc!
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If you want to save max battery. Turn off 3G and only use 2G. Then lower brightness. Reduce frequency of app updates.
Those are the best tips. I keep brightness on auto. And I keep updates to once an hour for most things. It give me a solid day.
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Thanks!
I downloaded setCPU and have it so that the processor goes down to 800mhz when the screen is off.
I am not sure if that is helping or not though.. still struggling with battery life.
Get JuiceDefender Ultimate. It helps to automatically turn off your Data Network and your wifi whenever your not using your phone, it reopens them periodically to check for any updates on ur apps. Smart app and it has saved me x2.3 of my battery life.
thanks!
Do you think juice defender ultimate is better than setCPU?
Disable fast dormancy. *#9900# and the select disable fast dormancy and then save.
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Here are some tips for prelonging battery life:
1 - Don't use 100% screen brightness at all times - 50-60% is enough, only increase it when you need to then lower it again.
2 - If your planning to use the phone for long periods, 30 minutes or more constant use then once again use 25% or so brightness
3 - When browsing/surfing the net use the lowest possible brightness as this is the biggest battery killer. Unfortunately our AMOLED screens suck a lot of juice when displaying white...
4 - Try to keep most, if not all applications to manual updates only. Otherwise decrease the update frequency.
5 - Use an alternative launcher. I find for example using LauncherPro uses less resources/cpu/ram than the default touchwizz launcher. Therefore using less ram/cpu saves battery!
6 - If your gonna game for hours then I suggest 0% brightness!
7 - Last but least watch your apps. Some apps are poorly optimized/coded and can take up a lot of ram and cpu which then eats away at your battery!
In my case, disabling fast dormancy helps save some battery. Tough not to a big extent.
Use Screen Adjuster or Voodoo display filter to further lower screen brightness.
Install and use app that has a night mode. Eg, config opera mobile to use a user css to render white text on black background.
Hey,
Before you should know that android collects statistics on your battery in order to "learn" its behavior so within the first days of use you will see a constant improvement if you battery performance.
there are also a few apps that runs in background and has the annoying habit to drain your battery:
wifi sharing
wi-fi sharing manager
social hub
try to disable those apps using gemini app manager or titanium backup.
Thanks for the great tips. My battery lasted almost 19 hours ever since I did everything everyone has mentioned!
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uneek14 said:
Thanks!
I downloaded setCPU and have it so that the processor goes down to 800mhz when the screen is off.
I am not sure if that is helping or not though.. still struggling with battery life.
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Capping the max CPU speed does not help battery life.
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this will also help you understand battery life
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Gary13579 said:
Capping the max CPU speed does not help battery life.
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How so? I've heard some people on YouTube say they save battery this way..it was the only reason I downloaded setCPU...what are your thoughts?
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When screen is off, the cpu frequency is reduced anyway. Thats the advantage of sleep.
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When screen is off, the cpu frequency is reduced anyway. Thats the advantage of sleep.
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How much is it reduced to?
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How much is it reduced to?
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Just enough to receive calls, sms, messages, etc. What was it, 200mhz?
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How so? I've heard some people on YouTube say they save battery this way..it was the only reason I downloaded setCPU...what are your thoughts?
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YouTube is in no way a reliable source of information when it comes to technology. Unfortunately, neither are these forums, as witnessed by the masses of people that consistently state underclocking saves battery. I've posted about this several times before, and it seems no one ever listens or trusts me, so I'll try to lay it out as simple as I can. This effect is very well known by old school Linux nerds that would push their notebooks to get longer battery lives. Intel calls this effect HUGI -- Hurry Up and Get Idle. It essentially states that the faster a CPU runs, the more energy it consumes, but it *also* finishes it's work faster. Finishing work faster is important as it means that the CPU can go back to it's "Idle" state faster. The idle (or sleep) state uses virtually zero energy. Let me see if I can pull up the voltage table for a phone... here, found this for the Sprint Nexus S 4G and it looks to be accurate based off my memory of the CPU.
1000mhz - 1.25v
800mhz - 1.20v
400mhz - 1.05v
200mhz - 0.95v
100mhz - 0.95v
Now, let's say we have a task that takes 10 seconds to complete at 1000 MHz. 10 seconds times 1.25v is 12.5v (I know, I know, voltage doesn't work this way -- but it's a good enough approximation to demonstrate this effect (and it's to scale!) and I'm too tired to explain volt vs amp vs watt, it's 5am here). At 100 MHz, though, the *same exact task* would take 100 seconds! 100 seconds times 0.95v is, wow, 95v! By capping your CPU to 100 MHz (10% of max), you are effectively using (95/12.5=) 660% more energy to do the same task.
Now, there are scenarios where underclocking can help you, such as when your phones CPU is running at 100% 24/7 because of ****ty applications or leaked wakelocks. Although underclocking does appear to somewhat fix this, it's a complete ****ing hack and won't give you anywhere near the amount of battery life that you'd get by uninstalling the ****ty app and letting your phone go to sleep.
Make sense?
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Wow! Thanks! yeah it does make sense! I guess I should uninstall setCPU...I'm not sure what else its used for
thanks again
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Just enough to receive calls, sms, messages, etc. What was it, 200mhz?
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That's great, a very efficient way to save battery...
So it's basically like a modern pc running a core i5/i7 that runs at 2.5GHz when idle or when no power is needed. However when power is needed the intel Turbo boost kicks in & increases clock speed to 4.2GHz or even higher depending on what the user set it to.
In my case my PC cpu idles at 3.4GHz & when gaming or video editing it boosts to 4.7GHZ which I've manually set it to.
I have basically every script/ mod right now done to my Revo and I use Antutu Battery saver running at level 3 (best battery saver level). I still dont feel like I get good battery life, even when not using the phone too much. I have my cpu set on rom Toolbox running 1900/ 255 on smoothass governor, which constantly switches at random. Does it switch because of my battery saver im thinking? Either way, Im trying to figure out if I should wipe my Revo and restart with just Blitz and Rom toolbox for better battery, with still good speeds. Any suggestions if I wipe clean? Or any suggestions on what to do right now? Thanks!
I'm guessing ur using gingervolt... I've had this same issue on my revolution... I've researched it and everything... I've found nothing
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Yes using gingervolt. Sorta stuck on what to do
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Yes using gingervolt. Sorta stuck on what to do
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I could be wrong but I'm guessing that setting 1.9gHz on the Max is just that, the Max. Not necessarily the "constant" CPU speed.
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Now this might not be the answer you were looking for, but I had found that even with multiple power-saving measure my battery-life was still terribly short. The best thing is to get an extended battery, the one for the Revo is beast in size and battery life. Also, since you didn't mention it, changing from LTE to CDMA is also good if you're not really needing your 4G speeds.
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I have basically every script/ mod right now done to my Revo and I use Antutu Battery saver running at level 3 (best battery saver level). I still dont feel like I get good battery life, even when not using the phone too much. I have my cpu set on rom Toolbox running 1900/ 255 on smoothass governor, which constantly switches at random. Does it switch because of my battery saver im thinking? Either way, Im trying to figure out if I should wipe my Revo and restart with just Blitz and Rom toolbox for better battery, with still good speeds. Any suggestions if I wipe clean? Or any suggestions on what to do right now? Thanks!
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Your battery life is probably not too good because of the 1900 mhz setting... I use set CPU and you can use different profiles (including screen off, charging, battery threshold below a certain percent, etc.). This helps, but I don't get great battery life without a program like JuiceDefender. The problem there is, though, that it slows my phone down to the point of it taking a minute to get working, and by that time I have already done what I need to do... sort of sucks.
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Now this might not be the answer you were looking for, but I had found that even with multiple power-saving measure my battery-life was still terribly short. The best thing is to get an extended battery, the one for the Revo is beast in size and battery life. Also, since you didn't mention it, changing from LTE to CDMA is also good if you're not really needing your 4G speeds.
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I got the extended battery too and it is a world of difference. I can run all day and night without killing my battery. Even with moderate to heavy use, I can run through a whole day with no charger (and be comfortable). I just got mine through verizon for 24.99 the other week. I may have overpaid, but I don't trust amazon or ebay too much with some things.
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Your battery life is probably not too good because of the 1900 mhz setting... I use set CPU and you can use different profiles (including screen off, charging, battery threshold below a certain percent, etc.). This helps, but I don't get great battery life without a program like JuiceDefender. The problem there is, though, that it slows my phone down to the point of it taking a minute to get working, and by that time I have already done what I need to do... sort of sucks.
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I have an extended battery and I stay overclocked at 1.9gHz all day long. I don't use apps like juice defender or anything and I'm seeing 15-18 hours with moderate/heavy use.
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I use 5 different battery programs to monitor my battery and save my battery, but for some reason my battery drains in an hour.
The thing I see on here the most: monitoring programs, 4g connections, flashing left and right. People need to go to YouTube, and watch the video on how Android phones work. They are constantly learning what apps you use or don't use, they are learning how best to operate for your needs. When you flash a ROM or tweaks, it has to relearn. Sure track your battery for a day or two, see what programs are doing what and when, but then get rid of the extra crap, your phones don't need it. If you want extra battery life, get the bigger battery, you all knew coming to a smart phone that battery life sucks. Stop using app killers, and monitoring programs, they run in the background. Turn off auto run programs so one program doesn't start another.
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Has anyone measured the battery current? I would think if you are trying all these different setups and use scenarios the actual current draw is what you need to know.
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I use 5 different battery programs to monitor my battery and save my battery, but for some reason my battery drains in an hour.
The thing I see on here the most: monitoring programs, 4g connections, flashing left and right. People need to go to YouTube, and watch the video on how Android phones work. They are constantly learning what apps you use or don't use, they are learning how best to operate for your needs. When you flash a ROM or tweaks, it has to relearn. Sure track your battery for a day or two, see what programs are doing what and when, but then get rid of the extra crap, your phones don't need it. If you want extra battery life, get the bigger battery, you all knew coming to a smart phone that battery life sucks. Stop using app killers, and monitoring programs, they run in the background. Turn off auto run programs so one program doesn't start another.
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the more programs running the more drain. Widgets are convenient but can be real power hogs. Simple and streamlined is the way to go for me. You can have an awesome looking / running phone by being selective with apps and avoiding redundancies. If i have an issue, i dl the program/s i want to troubleshoot with and when im done i uninstall. No need to use resources that could be used elsewhere. You can always dl the app again or save its apk to the external sd or a laptop or both (thats what i did). Ofc, it will have a new learning curve but settles in a couple days, for me anyway.
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I want to know if my phone is just reading the charge level wrong or if something is wrong. I am running Slim ICS newest version, I also have an extended 3500mAh battery. I am only getting about 8-10 hours of battery life. I am always on my phone and I am wondering if that's why its draining so much. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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What do you mean by always on your phone? If your screen on time is 8-10 hours, that would explain the drain lol. You may just want to test it with different ROM/kernel combinations
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What do you mean by always on your phone? If your screen on time is 8-10 hours, that would explain the drain lol. You may just want to test it with different ROM/kernel combinations
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Well my screen isn't always on but I mean I use it a bunch like I text a crap load and stuff
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Take a look at what you have running on your phone - widgets that grab updates, live wallpapers, and any other thing that runs in the background will add to your battery drain. It's pretty much an even tradeoff - the more you ask the phone to do, the faster the battery will go down. Just take a look at what you have running and decide what needs to be running and what can be taken away.
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Take a look at what you have running on your phone - widgets that grab updates, live wallpapers, and any other thing that runs in the background will add to your battery drain. It's pretty much an even tradeoff - the more you ask the phone to do, the faster the battery will go down. Just take a look at what you have running and decide what needs to be running and what can be taken away.
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I have one widget and a program called quicker I constantly kill things with my task manager
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Do you do much gaming or web browsing on the phone? Both of those can be pretty heavy battery drains.
If not, and you're only getting 8-10 hours per charge with normal use (mostly calls, texts, some small amount of apps), then you may want to look at overclocking/undervolting to fine tune how your phone uses power.
jmtheiss said:
Do you do much gaming or web browsing on the phone? Both of those can be pretty heavy battery drains.
If not, and you're only getting 8-10 hours per charge with normal use (mostly calls, texts, some small amount of apps), then you may want to look at overclocking/undervolting to fine tune how your phone uses power.
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I do some web browsing but nothing that would drain my battery this much, if you could help Me configure overclocking and undervolting that would be great I am running glitch kernel v14 b6
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The OC/UV setup is something you'll just have to play around with, as each phone handles them differently.
My suggestion (and I can't say I'm even remotely an expert on this) would be to leave the UV alone at first and try pushing the OC setting up and see how high your phone will run and still be stable, then back off by 1 level (giving you a buffer). Your phone can handle the higher level, but a difference of 100 MHz isn't going to be a massive boost and it runs the chip a little easier.
Once you've done that, then take a single notch of voltage off of all levels. See if that's stable, then repeat and see which settings are ones your phone will handle.
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I have one widget and a program called quicker I constantly kill things with my task manager
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Hmm... Killing things isn't very good on battery life since it forces those services to restart again, eating up CPU and holding wake lock. Killing tasks is frowned upon in general and won't help battery life unless you are killing rogue CPU hogging apps.
You could try underclocking with glitch to the 800 MHz step, and setting live OC to something around 115%. It should perform well depending on the ROM, and yield better battery life than pure overclocking. You can also experiment with undervolting from there. Keep in mind that these things only affect battery life when the CPU is running, so basically when the screen is on. It won't save you power in deep sleep.
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I love my Revo, but I feel like I have too much widgets, therefore lack ram. that's why I want to see what type of widgets you use, and see how much ram that takes nad how much ram you have on average
I use facebook widget, color note widget, a clock, beautiful weather, a calendar widget, the my verizon, the notifications for GO launcher, and of course GO launcher.
when I clear my ram, I have about 160 mb of ram. (including email music and smart keyboard pro)
I feel like I'm lacking alot, and this prevents me from playing high quality games.
Yea you have kinda a lot of widgets. Right now the only widget I use is the advanced task killer. I use to use the Sense 4 Widget until I decided to use something new. Just divide your widgets down into what you really need then you should have less widgets.
indeed, the only widget I use is the SIMI clock widget on my main screen
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I use all seven desktops and have them full of widgets. I decided this time around to only use widgets that came with the phone. The phone has no problems with RAM or battery. Seriously, not kidding. However, I have downloaded a couple apps that include widgets like Equalizer, SetCPU and WiFi teather.
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I use all seven desktops and have them full of widgets. I decided this time around to only use widgets that came with the phone. The phone has no problems with RAM or battery. Seriously, not kidding. However, I have downloaded a couple apps that include widgets like Equalizer, SetCPU and WiFi teather.
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So how much ram do you have
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So how much ram do you have
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My point is I stopped caring for it. I learned to trust the phone. On a good day I have noticed it stay steady at 40. On a busy day it goes down to 20-15. I use adw and have the dock and status bars hidden which saves a few bytes. The battery still lasts about 20 hours. That's with me plugging at twelve at night.
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My point is I stopped caring for it. I learned to trust the phone. On a good day I have noticed it stay steady at 40. On a busy day it goes down to 20-15. I use adw and have the dock and status bars hidden which saves a few bytes. The battery still lasts about 20 hours. That's with me plugging at twelve at night.
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So you never clear the ram?
Because when I don't it really lags sometimes... \: So should i just deal with it ?
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My point is I stopped caring for it. I learned to trust the phone. On a good day I have noticed it stay steady at 40. On a busy day it goes down to 20-15. I use adw and have the dock and status bars hidden which saves a few bytes. The battery still lasts about 20 hours. That's with me plugging at twelve at night.
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You do know 40 ram is bad?
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So you never clear the ram?
Because when I don't it really lags sometimes... \: So should i just deal with it ?
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After my second revo I stopped downloading and installing crap games and apps that have in-app ads. It seriously helps with battery and phone speed. I do get the common launcher restart and a few screen freezes here and there but nothing that makes me want to throw my phone because of lag. I guess its just preference. I can capture my phone statistics and email them to you so you can compare.
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After my second revo I stopped downloading and installing crap games and apps that have in-app ads. It seriously helps with battery and phone speed. I do get the common launcher restart and a few screen freezes here and there but nothing that makes me want to throw my phone because of lag. I guess its just preference. I can capture my phone statistics and email them to you so you can compare.
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Yes that'd be great!
BTW My phone even though it has like 60mb of ram that's when it starts to lag. Is this weird? because wheres the other 60 mb?..
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You do know 40 ram is bad?
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Its not bad. I use my homescreens for 80 percent of activities and tasks. This phone really is badass. It helps if you minimize the amount of third party apps.
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Its not bad. I use my homescreens for 80 percent of activities and tasks. This phone really is badass. It helps if you minimize the amount of third party apps.
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Personally, I hate anything LG because of this phone. It's a decent phone but never again will I get an LG phone.
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After my second revo I stopped downloading and installing crap games and apps that have in-app ads. It seriously helps with battery and phone speed. I do get the common launcher restart and a few screen freezes here and there but nothing that makes me want to throw my phone because of lag. I guess its just preference. I can capture my phone statistics and email them to you so you can compare.
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Like when I play scramble with friends, it lags then my whole phone lags, when i get like a text or something. then i cant even go to the task amanger to end it because it's so laggy so i end up taking out the battery.
I have 3 screens, 2 widgets running, 147 meg in use 154 free on stock rooted and things are pretty smooth. As much as I like MT's work and respect it, break out 1.1 just lagged to much for me. Even after boosting the low end core speeds coming out of sleep it would take forever for the phone to become responsive, stock for me is snappy, out of sleep the phone dialer opens immediately etc... I get great battery life on stock and as much as I dislike LG phones now, I do like home except the lack of being able to change the icons on the dock. I really would like different links. I have been off charge for 14 hours and still have 78% battery left light usage.
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NM just figured out how to change the links... lol... Had this damn thing a year and never knew... I like home a lot now...
I have ons screen using the status bar widget and I use the sstcpu widget. That's it. Widgets slow it down when you have a bunch running at once.
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One thing worth mentioning in this thread is that you should remember android is linux. Linux utilizes ram a bit differently than what you're likely used to (Windows). A windows computer generally fills up the ram with all sorts of nonsense until it gets full, starts overflowing the data onto the hard drive, and lags (especially if you have a bunch of poorly written programs running all the time). In other words, on windows, more free ram is better, and that's pretty much all there is to it.
Linux (and therefore android) suffers from the same problem of course, if you fill up the ram completely by opening way too many programs it will still overflow the data to a swap partition.
On the other hand Linux tends to try to use the ram more agressively, because ram is much faster than the hard drives, so you tend to see the ram relatively full most of the time, especially when there isn't much of it to begin with, which is usually actually a GOOD thing... It means linux is doing it's best to go faster!
Again, of course completely running out of ram isn't good, you can still open too many programs and overwhelm the ram on linux/android, but the point is just because you see a lot of ram usage, doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem.
On another note the lag on my phone (with broken out) was clearly due to cpu governing... once I got my hands on the blitz kernel and set the min and max to decent settings I've not had it lag at all -- and it was BAD, lagging horribly ALL the time before that. I usually have a ton of crap running all the time too btw.
Just my 2 cents...
Edit: I should add that I'm not an expert by any means, but I'm fairly confident the above is correct. If not, sorry, it's only worth 2 cents!
i believe you are correct good sir.
As with making sure your RAM is under control, you can either use a task kiler or the one that is included in zep's supercharger. Shouldnt need to worry about RAM in newer phones as many will have 1gb+ DDR3 availible.
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keynith said:
i believe you are correct good sir.
As with making sure your RAM is under control, you can either use a task kiler or the one that is included in zep's supercharger. Shouldnt need to worry about RAM in newer phones as many will have 1gb+ DDR3 availible.
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Saw the signature with the new tf300. How is it? Specs look nice and I have been looking to upgrade from my old gtab.
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haha i love it. i got the keyboard dock and its exactly like a laptop with it attached. although it doesnt have the screen like the prime, i paid 550 for both the keyboard and the tablet and the ICS is very nice. 32gb tab is 400 and 150 for the keyboard.
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I use Launcher Pro, and for whatever reason can only get 3 desktops (don't know why) anyway, I currently use GO Weather Widget, My widget for school, Facebook, Twitter, Rift (MMORPG), Sleep Bot. Rift and Sleep bot only take up 3 spaces on my main screen. the GO Weather is a 4x2 but they have a 2x1, 2x2 and 4x1, I like the 4x2 cause it has more stuff on it and its skins are fun too.