upgrade from nexus s to Lg o2x ? - LG Optimus 2x

it is a wise choice ? i heard there so many problem with o2x but it is the cheapest dual core phone out there.

I was just thinking to do the opposite! Upgrade from the o2x to a nexus s...
It may be a dual core but with the official firmware only one core is visible. Plus all the problems with the radio and regular reboots...
Latest roms based on GB leak seem better so far. So there's maybe hope at the end of the tunnel.
CM is still not stable enough and is missing some features.
I would wait if I were you.
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i would do it, stock rom is okay if you install launcher pro, but i use cm7 and for me its very stable and 100 times better then other roms. and i never had a rebort or any other problems.

Yea I'm on a ox2 from a samsung galaxy s and its worked out well on cm7 so im happy with it
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CyranoB said:
It may be a dual core but with the official firmware only one core is visible.
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Not even close to being true.

Upgrade from nexus s to 2x??? Once the 2x receives gingerbread the nexus will probably be running ice cream sandwich.
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And then the people on CM will get it pretty soon after, not a huge deal.

Indeed true

So final solution having one more core for cheap price is always good deal.

CyranoB said:
I was just thinking to do the opposite! Upgrade from the o2x to a nexus s...
It may be a dual core but with the official firmware only one core is visible. Plus all the problems with the radio and regular reboots...
Latest roms based on GB leak seem better so far. So there's maybe hope at the end of the tunnel.
CM is still not stable enough and is missing some features.
I would wait if I were you.
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The opposite wouldn't be an upgrade.
You are not even making any sense. "Only one core is visible"? Visible to what? Maybe some outdated app may not represent it correctly, but rest assured that both cores are working.
CM *is* stable. In fact, the nightly builds have been more stable than the so-called "official" ROMs from certain OEMs. Missing features? There are only 2: the A2DP BT profile and FM Radio.

enigma00 said:
The opposite wouldn't be an upgrade.
You are not even making any sense. "Only one core is visible"? Visible to what? Maybe some outdated app may not represent it correctly, but rest assured that both cores are working.
CM *is* stable. In fact, the nightly builds have been more stable than the so-called "official" ROMs from certain OEMs. Missing features? There are only 2: the A2DP BT profile and FM Radio.
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The myth that Android 2.2 makes more cores than one useless is continually perpetuated. It's incorrect as you pointed out, and people should check their facts.
However, CM is not stable on my O2x. It often black-screens when charging with wall charger, and sometimes black-screens for no apparent reason. Other issues for me are that the sound quality for the other party is plain awful, regardless of what basebands and RILs I've tried. Using BT headset fixes that however.
This might be my device that's defective (regarding the crashes, the phone sound quality is quite known), and yesterday I installed the latest stock for my region (EURO Open) to see if that indeed is the case. The latest stock here (10D) doesn't feel very slow, and the phone sound quality has greatly improved.

drcorwe said:
The myth that Android 2.2 makes more cores than one useless is continually perpetuated. It's incorrect as you pointed out, and people should check their facts.
However, CM is not stable on my O2x. It often black-screens when charging with wall charger, and sometimes black-screens for no apparent reason. Other issues for me are that the sound quality for the other party is plain awful, regardless of what basebands and RILs I've tried. Using BT headset fixes that however.
This might be my device that's defective (regarding the crashes, the phone sound quality is quite known), and yesterday I installed the latest stock for my region (EURO Open) to see if that indeed is the case. The latest stock here (10D) doesn't feel very slow, and the phone sound quality has greatly improved.
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I should probably count my blessings because I have not seen the issues you describe, with either the stock ROM or CM.
I can speculate HW issues (e.g. LG's manufacturing defect, nVidia's or other suppliers' defect, or just plain ol' HW revisions) just based on the fact that some never had it while the others continue to experience the problems.

enigma00 said:
The opposite wouldn't be an upgrade.
You are not even making any sense. "Only one core is visible"? Visible to what? Maybe some outdated app may not represent it correctly, but rest assured that both cores are working.
CM *is* stable. In fact, the nightly builds have been more stable than the so-called "official" ROMs from certain OEMs. Missing features? There are only 2: the A2DP BT profile and FM Radio.
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Let me re-phrase: "using a o2x with a stock rom doesn't feel like using a dual core phone."
With the original rom, the o2x is far less snappy than a Nexus S. LG O2X can show up a better hardware on paper, but the crappy software implementation makes it feel far less snappy.
CM is still not stable for my setup Phone/Baseband/Provider. I always had diverse problems, from nightly #1 to #127 (didn't test them all of course). Now this is not to criticize CM: they never pretended to be stable and are for sure doing a incredible job with what they've been given. But someone coming from Nexus S cannot expect the same level of stability. It's up to you to see if you can live with it or not.

well . i guess i need to wait and see first .
yeah nexus s is fast and stable , load it with any custom roms , it is great .
thanks for you all comment and reply , it is because o2x is the cheapest dual core phone out there.

Cant we just put the samsung's rom from the galaxy r on it? ahaha

Personally I went from O2X to SGSII to NS and now back to O2X.
NS (Nexus S) of the tree I had, none where ok, first flash not working scratching sound on phone. Second allot of pixel errors. Third one pixel error bad built quality. After all the O2X is a great combo of features, great built quality, and gingerbread just around the corner, would not hesitate a bit getting the O2X over the NS.

whc said:
Personally I went from O2X to SGSII to NS and now back to O2X.
NS (Nexus S) of the tree I had, none where ok, first flash not working scratching sound on phone. Second allot of pixel errors. Third one pixel error bad built quality. After all the O2X is a great combo of features, great built quality, and gingerbread just around the corner, would not hesitate a bit getting the O2X over the NS.
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You missed another 'feature' - unreliability.
Also, why did you ditch the SGSII ?

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2.3 ROMs?

Hi guys sorry if this is a stupid question but I have looked on the forum and not really found what I wanted. I would like to know if there is any pretty stable 2.3 Roms for the Galaxy S out yet. Links to the threads would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Dali
there is no official version of 2.3 gingerbread.. only beta version XWJV1, you can find it here -> CLICK
CM7 is available (based on 2.3.3).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940095
it's not final yet.. contain some bugs, and its not for daily use ..
Iv been using CM7 now for two weeks or so and its perfectly stable. There are a few things that don't work but most things for everyday use does. And its being updated every other day. Just make sure to read the instructions and understand the steps before you try it out.
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If by perfectly stable, you mean "no crashes", then yeah, I'd agree. It never crashed for me either. HOWEVER, if you actually USE your phone as more than a toy, good luck.. CM7 didn't even pick up the correct IMEI, camera/video recording is broken, etc. But GPS at least "works" (about as well as any normal SGS in my opinion, which isn't that great anyway). I also recall the phone signal fluctuating a lot more last I used it.
A simple question: If you relied on phone calls through your mobile to make your money for your job, would you trust CM7 beta yet? I wouldn't! In fact, in my opinion most the stuff that worked was either on par, or below par with the stock firmware. There was also a lot of stuff that didn't work.
I didn't see any real benefit to using the ROM yet. It's a fun toy, but my overall experience was worse with it. It will grow your e-penis, but considering only recently they fixed the touchscreen support on it, clearly, it still is early days. The main features which seem to have made the SGS a better phone at launch than competitors (with the exception of Multitouch), don't seem to be there yet
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If by perfectly stable, you mean "no crashes", then yeah, I'd agree. It never crashed for me either. HOWEVER, if you actually USE your phone as more than a toy, good luck.. CM7 didn't even pick up the correct IMEI, camera/video recording is broken, etc. But GPS at least "works" (about as well as any normal SGS in my opinion, which isn't that great anyway). I also recall the phone signal fluctuating a lot more last I used it.
A simple question: If you relied on phone calls through your mobile to make your money for your job, would you trust CM7 beta yet? I wouldn't! In fact, in my opinion most the stuff that worked was either on par, or below par with the stock firmware. There was also a lot of stuff that didn't work.
I didn't see any real benefit to using the ROM yet. It's a fun toy, but my overall experience was worse with it. It will grow your e-penis, but considering only recently they fixed the touchscreen support on it, clearly, it still is early days. The main features which seem to have made the SGS a better phone at launch than competitors (with the exception of Multitouch), don't seem to be there yet
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Agree on everything. CM7 looks sexy and is pretty fast(wouldnt say much faster than the latest lagfixed samsung stuff but fast ) That's why I still hope for some roms from samsung in the coming months(ofcourse GB) , and ofcourse source release cause I cant live withoout Voodoo Sound
But nowhere in his post did Dali mention anything about business. All he asks is if there are any 2.3 ROMs. IMHO there are very few problems with CM7 and as far as call signal goes using the JQ1 modem has improved my signal substantially.
I'd still recommended trying it out and if your not happy you can always revert to stock. Simples
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anfearg said:
But nowhere in his post did Dali mention anything about business. All he asks is if there are any 2.3 ROMs. IMHO there are very few problems with CM7 and as far as call signal goes using the JQ1 modem has improved my signal substantially.
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It's true he never mentioned business. But he did mention STABLE roms.
My point was to provide an alternative perspective. There is a growing prevalence of users pushing software which they believe is "stable", however, put the biggest peddlers of such software in a situation where your time costs money, and a lot of the times, they will suddenly say it isn't stable enough (which seems to be a perspective a lot of vocal Linux users have never experienced).
And whilst there are "limited problems", there are certainly more serious issues than the standard stock ROM's.. Camera support, fm support (at least last build I tried) and the compass is definitely dodgy. HD quality movie playback for myself was also broken... As mentioned, the ROM also showed my IMEI as corrupt when I tried the ROM the second time..
The question is, do you want to inconvenience yourself simply to have a glorious 2.3 rom, or do you realistically want the most productive ROM?

[Q] Why are all the Optimus 2x so cheap??

I just recently broke my old android and was looking to upgrade. The 2x stuck out because of the price/specs to me. Why is a phone thats compared in reviews to the galaxy sII which costs used around 450/500 (canadian$) so cheap? I can find a perfect condition 2x for around $200???? Is there something wrong with these phones? I can imagine when a good build of ICS comes out that these phones will fly...... so I guess my question is, howcome?
De O2x is a good phone the price is really worth it, you won't be missing much. The only thing I can think of that makes it cheap is because LG don't spend much on marketing and support.
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LG and Nvidia dont care for their consumers enough. The phone had lots of problems in the first few months and that made many people sell it/return it. Its true the price is incredibly low now and if the price difference is so big, then you should go for the Optimus 2x. Also we don't really know when ICS will come for our device. LG said Q3.. this could mean december( I personally bet on that ). Nvidia could help developers by releasing some code, but they won't so screw them
Can you believe they only just released gingerbread for Optimus 3d? Lol I was about to get rid of my o2x but then there ain't much other phones are offering that I'm missing out on and selling wud make me lose. If there wasn't so much support on here I'd sold it for anything lol
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Thanks for the replies. I was just wondering if I was awaiting a nasty surprise when i buy for for $200, but it doesnt really seem like it. I guess the phone at least keeps up with other phones that have just come out. Is there a rom that is heavily favoured on the o2x forums - in regards to free ram/speed/not a lot of junk installed?
CyanogenMod KANG of course, along with a custom kernel it works perfectly. Look at my signature for the links...
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CyanogenMod KANG of course, along with a custom kernel it works perfectly. Look at my signature for the links...
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Thanks for all the help. Still a little skeptical .... but only because its so cheap im going to go ahead and buy it. One more question, what is the difference between all these kernals? I assume I flash the rom, then flash one of the following kernals:
Normal version
32M ramhack shared
32M ramhack
64M ramhack
First of all vadonka explained everything in his thread so you could've found out if you read it, yet maybe you didn't understand it so I'll explain it
Base version: no extra ram memory, everything works like how it's supposed to be. This one I recommend if you just want a stable phone with everything working.
32MB shared version: AFAIK, this version has 32MB extra ram memory because it shares this extra 32MB with the GPU (correct me if I'm wrong guys ) this isn't really important anyway, all you have to know that this version used to be a little buggy, so if you want a stable phone I won't recommend this one.
32MB Ramhack version: this version also gives you 32MB extra ram memory, but this isn't shared with the GPU. Therefore this version is also really stable and I'm using it too. However, only reboot doesn't work with this version because of the ramhack from the GPU.
64MB Ramhack version: this version gives you 64MB extra ram memory. This one is also very stable I think and because of the bigger ramhack compared to the previous version more things don't work. The things that won't work with this version is reboot and 1080p (and maybe 720p) video recording.
For more information go to the original thread (link in signature)
I didnt really understand it in the thread, thanks for taking the time. I just went out and bought the phone, I got it for $200 canadian (Still cant believe its this cheap).
make sure first the phone doesnt have faulty hardware that causes annoying random reboots. sometimes hidden faults are the reasons why phones are sold cheap. learned this the hard way.
ongkal said:
make sure first the phone doesnt have faulty hardware that causes annoying random reboots. sometimes hidden faults are the reasons why phones are sold cheap. learned this the hard way.
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Is there anyway to tell if I have a device thats faulty?
what i'd do is leave it charging over night with an alarm set for morning. i remembr lots of people having problems with these actions. basically theres no real way of finding this fault. I for one never had it good luck
umirza85 said:
I just recently broke my old android and was looking to upgrade. The 2x stuck out because of the price/specs to me. Why is a phone thats compared in reviews to the galaxy sII which costs used around 450/500 (canadian$) so cheap? I can find a perfect condition 2x for around $200???? Is there something wrong with these phones? I can imagine when a good build of ICS comes out that these phones will fly...... so I guess my question is, howcome?
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Nothing is wrong but when the phone started to be sold the software was sad. This now it´s the past. The 2X works fine and it´s powerfull. And the G2? You have to remember it´s a newest phone and with the first android company on back.
ongkal said:
make sure first the phone doesnt have faulty hardware that causes annoying random reboots. sometimes hidden faults are the reasons why phones are sold cheap. learned this the hard way.
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A lot of people have said this problem disappeared with software upgrades, so I'd say this is not a hardware problem.
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krajova said:
Nvidia could help developers by releasing some code, but they won't so screw them
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I read the other day here in xda that they have confirmed they will release the code for the drivers, so we can expect good stuff on the way
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umirza85 said:
I just recently broke my old android and was looking to upgrade. The 2x stuck out because of the price/specs to me. Why is a phone thats compared in reviews to the galaxy sII which costs used around 450/500 (canadian$) so cheap? I can find a perfect condition 2x for around $200???? Is there something wrong with these phones? I can imagine when a good build of ICS comes out that these phones will fly...... so I guess my question is, howcome?
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I also just recently bought the phone. From what I've ready LG has bad stock software and sub-par support. So I'd say they sell the phones cheap because they don't have a large development team. But we have Cyanogen, so it's a fair compromise for me
cm7 rocks..
do it first bro..
I was in same condition as you, but took this phone and using it.
I tried every custom roms, and finaly stable on cm7 kang.
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can u tell me that ur all 2 speakers (right and left) are working ?
cause in my phone only right speaker is working.
RohanAJoshi said:
cm7 rocks..
do it first bro..
I was in same condition as you, but took this phone and using it.
I tried every custom roms, and finaly stable on cm7 kang.
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can u tell me that ur all 2 speakers (right and left) are working ?
cause in my phone only right speaker is working.
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1 is speaker
1 is mic
There is only 1 speaker.
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The O2X is a capable phone. I have been using it for 4 months with no major issues other than reboots mentioned above. Temasek's CM7 KANG is well recommended. I'm happy with the performance and stability. The only gripe is the fact that the camera software with CM7 is not on par with the stock software regarding video recording in low light. The frame rate drops considerably. If the camera software was changed to fix this issue then I'd be 100% happy with the phone.
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The O2X is a capable phone. I have been using it for 4 months with no major issues other than reboots mentioned above. Temasek's CM7 KANG is well recommended. I'm happy with the performance and stability. The only gripe is the fact that the camera software with CM7 is not on par with the stock software regarding video recording in low light. The frame rate drops considerably. If the camera software was changed to fix this issue then I'd be 100% happy with the phone.
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i agree. but i really do not understand why is the CM7 camera so much worse than stock LG (im actually amazed that lg did something better than cm ) the video is completely unusable and lg's camera has better brightness. also if you move just a LITTLE bit with CM7 camera you will get blurred out images, whereas on Lg's acmera i could move quite a lot and get much better results (anti shake was off cuz it made the pic taking slower for me)
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i agree. but i really do not understand why is the CM7 camera so much worse than stock LG (im actually amazed that lg did something better than cm ) the video is completely unusable and lg's camera has better brightness. also if you move just a LITTLE bit with CM7 camera you will get blurred out images, whereas on Lg's acmera i could move quite a lot and get much better results (anti shake was off cuz it made the pic taking slower for me)
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I assume you're talking about how CM7's camera handles auto exposure. The overall quality however is admittedly worse due to lack of drivers source.

Hello

Well, I'm an x8 user, I'm gonna change the phone in some months and wanna ask if i really should buy this device
I know too much about roms cuz well I'm developing one
I wanna ask you guys, should i use it in stock and then wait for official ics or stock roms suck?
Does this phone really need all the stuff to work smooth? I mean custom kernel, rom etc because well its dualcore phone and looks that in some post i read, my phone works better
Thanks
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It's an awesome phone with cm7
well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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But an official update to ics wont be enough? cuz i guess LG will fix lots of things in ics
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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leroy_coco said:
Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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So, theres a way ti change that bloatware?
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Sorry But i dont know what bloatware mean
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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leroy_coco said:
Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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Who needs that anyways?
HerrKuk said:
Who needs that anyways?
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Me, camera: i need an HD camera because i don't have one
HDMI: i have an LCD and i wanna get the best experience in gaming, movies etc
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I have lots if things to learn, but this is a good start
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For me, this phone is best in its class and value-for-money phone.
I only have 1 complain, The battery.
But once you get an extended battery, this phone is perfect.
But once you get an extended battery
What you mean?
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There are batteries you can buy with more capacity than the stock battery that comes with the phone.
However, I can easily get two day battery life with the stock battery, so personally I don't understand why so many people complain about their battery life. As far as I know it's about the same as other smart phones.

[Q] Questions from a potential O2X buyer

Hi guys, I'm definitely thinking about buying an LG Optimus 2X, because over here in NZ it is by far the cheapest dual core phone, yet is similar/on par with many of the latest phones.
Before I decide to buy it however, I'd just like to ask a few questions to clear things up.
- Based on many reviews, the UI seems occasionally choppy, and I've also heard that many users aren't happy with a large number of bugs and crashes. Is this fixed when the phone is updated from froyo to gingerbread? Ice cream sandwich is also officially coming for the 2X which sounds promising.
- Is the battery life acceptable? Spec sheets say it runs on a 1500 mAh battery which sounds, theoretically, quite awful :/ I'd like to know if you get used to it or not. I'm not a huge traveler, so I'd use it at home most of the time, occasionally when going out.
- Design-wise, the camera protrudes slightly on the back. I'm worried that this might make the lens more susceptible to damage and cracks. Has this affected anyone?
I'd really appreciate answers for these questions. Thanks a lot.
Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
SP1996AC said:
Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
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What protection is that..?
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Mungulz said:
What protection is that..?
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Even when you remove the back cover the camera still has the lens (just like any normal compact camera), The back cover is actually only there to prevent the lens from getting dirty, I believe, and it's easy to clean (every time I take a picture I clean the back cover with my shirt and the results are pretty good )
Now, regarding the OP, I bought it and I don't regret my purchase not one bit. It's true a lot of people complain about bugs and crashes but my experience even with the stock Froyo ROM was actually good. And when I flashed a custom ROM what was already good just got great.
So yeah, I would say there's nothing out there that beats the price/quality on the O2X.
@LarsPT
Uhuh, that's true. The lens has its own piece of glass in front of it which protects it. The extra piece of glass from the backcover is just to make sure that the lens doesn't get dirty. In my case, this extra glass remains dirty even if I try to clean it. Therefore I decided to cut it out...
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Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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NOT AT ALL
In CM, there has been ported a camera app(stock LG) due to which it is just good
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Beplexor said:
Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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I think you'll be more than happy with the O2X to do all of the above.
If you want to check picture quality you can check it here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150296662400657.555672.662115656&type=3&l=8675ea8903
The first four photos (take a look at the arc de la défense) were taken with it, I like it.
Thanks to everyone who's posted. I've just got one more question for people who have rooted their 2X. The web browsing seems quite laggy when using stock froyo (perhaps gingerbread?). When you root the phone, is this problem solved? Thanks.
Hi Beplexor!
When I'm surfing the web the only time I get a "laggy" experience is when the reception is not so great, like when I'm on the train or bus. If I'm at a fix position with HDSPA it surfs great. I haven't even felt the need to user another browser other than the stock one.
Really, there's nothing I can throw at this phone that it can't handle! I'm not the most demanding of users, but still, I find it great!
I'm glad everyone is so positive about this phone, but I am not.
It has lots of issues and glitches, and although tweaking, rooting and installing custrom roms is certainly nice, there is always this or that 'wrong' with it. It all depends on what you want.
If you like tweaking and messing around and don't mind some rough edges, then yes, it is a nice phone which works well.
If you want a phone that just works, then no, this phone is not a good idea.
Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all. And there are more people with this problem. The cell-radio keeps crashing. CM 7.1/7.2 does not have this problem, so I'm using this.
However, voice quality is poor, I have issues with Wifi not wanting to activate after 2-3 days and I need to reboot every 1-2 days anyway because of performance drops. After 48 hours it is impossible, for example, to watch a Youtube video, use Skype or play any game. After a reboot performance is great again.
So, it all depends on what you want with and expect from a phone. And of course how much money you're willing to spend and a whole lot of other factors
And as for the CM9 builds (ICS): the camera doesn't work properly and things like FM radio don't work (properly). Also, no HW acceleration so some newer ICS apps don't work either. So, I'm eagerly awaing the official LG ICS to see how that fares.
Bottom-line: I'm not saying the phone is bad for everyone or it's a piece of crap, I'm just saying that if it is important to you that the phone 'just works' and 'always works', then this phone is not a good idea.
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Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all.
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If your phone was crap with stock firmware I think you have a faulty equipment and should have asked for a replacement.
My phone worked great with stock and works excellent with custom.
No matter what brand you choose there will always be faulty equipment. Of course, some brands have tighter quality control then others, and that reflects on the price.
For the price of this phone it is normal to expect worse quality control, this just means the probability of getting a faulty equipment are higher, you just have to test it properly and send it back if it doesn't work.
Of course, if this is something you would rather pay more and not have to worry about this, I would advise against LG, but so far this is my second LG phone and I'm a happy customer!
Thanks for your reply. Based on my experiences with the device, I am pretty sure it's not faulty equipment.
The price of the phone was close to 500 euros when I got it, so the argument about the price doens'nt really hold, imho.
Let's just say there are people that are happy with it, and there are also a lot of people that are unhappy. Therefore, I personally cannot recommend this phone if you want one that always/just works.
We might have some semantics problems here.
In your original post you say "Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. "
When you say the hardware revision is a factor, for me hardware revisions are there because the older hardware had flaws. For me this qualifies as faulty equipment.
The "current" hardware revision, or at least the one I've got, worked fine out of the box. Maybe that's why you're not as happy a customer as I am, because you got a "hardware revision" from back when the price was still 500 eur. Now I can say it's much better, I've had no issues so far at all.
Hi guys, I'm only 15 years old and any phone I buy will be bought using my own money earned from a part time job. I want a medium-high end phone, but it's my own money and I'm not willing to cash out heaps, therefore I think the O2X will be a great choice. I understand it's not the most stable phone out there, but the fact remains that it IS a very affordable dual core phone.
I know that you guys say root and flash the moment you get it, but like some people say in this thread, the phone doesn't seem to work to its full potential e.g absence of certain applications, shady camera etc. If I get the phone, it's highly likely that I'll just wait until stock ICS comes out, which isn't far away; LG promised it within Q2 of this year.
Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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I'll definitely give that advice a chance...just wondering, if I were to root it, I'd just go into the Android Development section right? Could you please link me to clear tutorials on how to flash CM (such as the one you have right now) onto the O2X? Thanks.
I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Uhmm... I use the Unofficial Build (KANG) from Temasek. Don't worry, it's still CM but then with some extra little goodies baked in (cherry-pickings). With other words, I use a CM7 version compiled by an user, Temasek, instead of a CM7 version compiled by the official CM bot. But if you want an official CM7, then you should use the latest Nightly Build, because they're far more stable than the 'Stable Mod', not to mention that nightlies are even better too. Actually, you can compare Temaseks Unofficial build with the latest nightly, I believe there's not much difference between them. Nevertheless, a lot of people like his Unofficial builds.
There are no issues for CM7 I believe. I'm using it for about four months now (actually three, I also played a month around with CM9 which is a little too buggy for me, but it was awesome anyway ) However you should keep in mind that the camera quality of CM7 is not so good, compared to the stock camera quality. This is because the camera needs special libs from the stock LG rom to work good and those libs don't work on CM7 for some reason. But, there's a solution to that! Go to Temaseks KANG thread (link in signature) and go the third post. There you'll find a whole lot of mods compiled by other users. Download and flash the camera mod by Kostja_V in CWM recovery. This improves the camera a lot.
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[Q] What's your favourite ICS for Nexus One?

I'm curious...what is everyone's ICS distro of choice for the Nexus One?
i.e. BCM / TexasIce / MIUI
No bashing allowed...only critical conversation please!
I'm using BCM as I like to have the Cyanogenmod features.
+1 for BCM9
BCM is running pretty smooth and with good features.
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BCM
Bravo CM9
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Damn.
That's a lot for BCM.
I'm currently running TexasIce. No problems. Smooth as silk.
What does BCM have over TexasIce? Have they fixed the video camera FC?
CyanogenMod 9 I don't care about the video camera, rarely use(d) it.
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CyanogenMod 9 I don't care about the video camera, rarely use(d) it.
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Gotcha.
So what does BCM have over TexasIce? I'm in no way trying to poke holes in anybody's preferrence. If anything, I'm looking for a reason to flash BCM here. Is BCM basically just TexasIce with the CM9 toolbox? Is one any more "AOSP"-ish than the other?
As I said, BCM has CyanogenMod 9 over TexasICS. I got really used to CM7, and CM9 is no different (some functionality is still missing though). I tried TexasICS a few times, but I feel like BCM fits my needs more than TexasICS. I don't have anything against TexasICS, and I don't think people should see these 2 ROMs as opponents.
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As I said, BCM has CyanogenMod 9 over TexasICS. I got really used to CM7, and CM9 is no different (some functionality is still missing though). I tried TexasICS a few times, but I feel like BCM fits my needs more than TexasICS. I don't have anything against TexasICS, and I don't think people should see these 2 ROMs as opponents.
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I got you bro, but my question is still pretty unanswered.
To begin with, I'll say that I LOVE the CM team and all their work. The CM ROMs are minimalist, yet customizable, ultimately providing an android experience that's unadulterated by even the slightest carrier modifications. Plus it's tailored for the power user.
I know this, but that's not quite what I'm looking for in the answer.
I'm simply wondering, besides being associated with the cyanogenmod team, is BCM more stable/closer to being a complete, bugless AOSP distribution of ICS than TexasIce?
I gather that they have not fixed the video camera FC- something that's not a big deal to me.
For example, this is the list taken directly from the TexasIce thread of things that are NOT working:
Gapps might not work properly (search the thread for fixes before posting issues)
USB: MTP / PTP / Tethering
wifi ad-hoc (might work)
Builtin alarm clock app doesn't work 100% of the time.
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*Anything in blue doesn't really bother me...and the gapps issue is an old wive's tale
I'm curious about whether the stock alarm clock app is buggy in BCM as well, though.
While it's not on the list, an FC when hitting 'record' in the stock video camera app is the only other major issue. Apparently this is due to having to fix something with the stagefright video encoder
What I'm wondering is- Has BCM fixed ANY of these things as of right now? Or are both ROMs on the 'same page'?
The Gapps that I installed with BCM are all working 100%. Never had any FC or freeze. The USB issues I wouldn't know because I never use it for anything other than ADB/Fastboot. Wifi idem dito. Alarm clock is working 100% for me, never missed any early class. I don't believe I've read anything about the alarm clock not working in the BCM thread
Also, I believe BCM doesn't have the Screen of Death which some TexasICS users are experiencing. But it's the same with every ROM: it can work perfectly on one Nexus One, while it sucks on the other.
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The Gapps that I installed with BCM are all working 100%. Never had any FC or freeze. The USB issues I wouldn't know because I never use it for anything other than ADB/Fastboot. Wifi idem dito. Alarm clock is working 100% for me, never missed any early class. I don't believe I've read anything about the alarm clock not working in the BCM thread
Also, I believe BCM doesn't have the Screen of Death which some TexasICS users are experiencing. But it's the same with every ROM: it can work perfectly on one Nexus One, while it sucks on the other.
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Awesome bro that's what I'm looking for.
Ultimately, I've got no real allegiance to one brand or the other. As I said, I love the CM team and what they do. I'm all about results though, and if they're a bit behind TexasIce than I'm not interested.
By the sound of it, though, this isn't the case. I appreciate your input man.
Just flashed TexasIce ICS yesterday, but it looks like I might be flashing BCM today.
Thanks again for the info bro.
Just wait a few hours and somebody else would recommend TexasICS
Please let us know what you think after you've installed BCM!
xyrovice said:
Awesome bro that's what I'm looking for.
Ultimately, I've got no real allegiance to one brand or the other. As I said, I love the CM team and what they do. I'm all about results though, and if they're a bit behind TexasIce than I'm not interested.
By the sound of it, though, this isn't the case. I appreciate your input man.
Just flashed TexasIce ICS yesterday, but it looks like I might be flashing BCM today.
Thanks again for the info bro.
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Yeah, likewise, I haven't tried TexasIce, but the known problems listed as being present in TexasIce (aside from video recording), are non-issue in BCM.
One thing I did discover though - if you take TexasIce's latest Kernel (he posted it in a thread) and put that in BCM, BCM becomes just as fast (or faster) than Cyanogen Mod 7! No hindrance on battery life either. I was in shock - a full speed / slick / stable ICS on Nexus One...now if the video recording / camera scanning features were enabled, this would be 100% fully operational.
I have used both.
Both are equally good and stable but I was on Bcm at the end for a while before I switched to sensation xe.
I preferred bcm due to no SoD issues(drewis kernel solved it later on also) , ease of install and configuration also I was having 3-5 random restarts on tesaxice but seldomly had on bcm, once a week if any.
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I have used both.
Both are equally good and stable but I was on Bcm at the end for a while before I switched to sensation xe.
I preferred bcm due to no SoD issues(drewis kernel solved it later on also) , ease of install and configuration also I was having 3-5 random restarts on tesaxice but seldomly had on bcm, once a week if any.
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Really quickly, I know BCM is ported from the HTC Desire/Bravo CM9. Now, I know the Desire and the N1 are almost identical, the only differences being the N1's trackball and capacitive buttons (as far as I know).
So, question: Does the N1 port of the Desire's CM9 distribution have all the N1's hardware working correctly? Trackball wake and notifications? Any/everything else?
Ultimately, even though it's a port, is BCM being developed with the N1 in mind?
Thanks for the info fellas.
+1 BCM with Drew Kernel
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Really quickly, I know BCM is ported from the HTC Desire/Bravo CM9. Now, I know the Desire and the N1 are almost identical, the only differences being the N1's trackball and capacitive buttons (as far as I know).
So, question: Does the N1 port of the Desire's CM9 distribution have all the N1's hardware working correctly? Trackball wake and notifications? Any/everything else?
Ultimately, even though it's a port, is BCM being developed with the N1 in mind?
Thanks for the info fellas.
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Yeah it does. Plus if you want to customize anything, you can install Lightflow to do so.
tried them both, but always preferred bcm.
Nobody has tried. Icy 7. Look on drewgaren Web site
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