update to Gingerbread ? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an ATT Captivate which I managed to update from original Android 2.1 to 2.2 firmware, version I897UCJI6.
This was before ATT release their official 2.2 update.
I also managed to unlock the phone.
I have to admit I am totally ignorant of this stuff, and I was lucky enough not to brick my phone during those updates.
I am very unhappy with the battery life of my phone, and I read that the Gingerbread dramatically improves this aspect.
So, shall I upgrade to Gingerbread?
If yes, I am confused with the many sites which offer advice with how to do this, some contradicting with others. (One indicated to reverse back to 2.1 before upgrading to 2.3, other didn't say that, etc etc)
Should this upgrade be successfull, what happens to the lock/unlock status?
Do I need to unlock again?
Which is a trusted site?
Any advice?
Thank you for any help

UnLock stays after flashing.
As for a trusted site.... Ummm you found it. Xda...

Thank you
Will this upgrade really improve battery life?
If not I'll stay with 2.2

I got Max of 18 or so hours on froyo, I can go over 2 days now. Ymmv though.

Thanks again
I assume this would be the thread to follow, right ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620
Which indicates the use of this file : I897UCKH3_noboot.tar.md5 (dated 8/24/2011, 305191 KB)
I did find another file somewhere, presumably doing the same thing - that file name is:
I897UCKH3_HOME.tar.md5 (dated 8/19/2011 298421 KB)
I stated before I am kind of ignorant, and easily confused with all those information.
Which one is the right file?
Am I on the right track?

If you going to use KH3 without bootloaders you need to flash This bootloaders first.

Is there a thread for novices, where all those terms are explained, or where the procedures to be followed are explained for somebody who who can follow indicated steps (without really knowing the meaning of all those terms) which could lead to 100% success?
I don't mind reading a little, but I don't have time to become an expert (and I'm sure many readers here are like me, looking for plain simple advice on how to upgrade their phones, without having the skills and knowledge to do it)
Reading those posts here can be sooo confusing...
Somebody recommends you to do this, somebody recommends you to do that, and the poor you have no clue what they're talking about...

Simple if you want Gingerbread you need new bootloaders (except Cyanogenmod and MIUI). Bootloaders are like the BIOS in your computer. If you mess up the bootloaders you can hardbrick your phone.

Got it
Next logical question would be WHY the person who indicated how to upgrade to Gingerbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620) did not tell in his post that you need new bootloaders.
Or at least I do not see that in his post.
Which means that a novice like me can ruin his/her phone very easy..

No bootloader ODIN packages are made for people that already have the GB bootloaders. So you don't get a hard brick.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703
I believe this is what you want to use.

mirceani said:
Got it
Next logical question would be WHY the person who indicated how to upgrade to Gingerbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620) did not tell in his post that you need new bootloaders.
Or at least I do not see that in his post.
Which means that a novice like me can ruin his/her phone very easy..
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Flashing a GB ROM without GB bootloaders won't ruin your phone. May cause a bootloop, but not a hard brick. Cezar is super picky about things being safe. If you had hit the link he had for tips and tricks, it says something about bootloaders.

After reading all related posts, I am still confused - pls help:
I understand that if I follow Cesar's link, I need bootloaders first.
If I follow Przekret's link, I do NOT need bootloadres first (they are included)
So how do I decide which route to follow ? In the end I get the same result, GB 2.3.4 - correct?
I am currently on Froyo, UCJI6, rooted and unlocked.
Do I loose my rooting (I understand that unlocking stays)
Again, which method should I use (Cesar or Przekret) ?
Thank you

If you need bootloaders, don't use Cezars.
As these are stock roms, you will lose root. But if you flash any custom ROM, it should be rooted.

No method is incorrect. I would flash Bootloaders firs because there seems to be less chance to hard brick (I've noticed sometimes ODIN doesn't flash one bootloader after another). Thats my personal experience, but like I said neither of the methods are incorrect, I just never used the one with bootloaders included since I already had them when KH3 came out, so I can't speak for that package myself.

How do I know if I need bootloaders or not?

Unless you bought that phone modded with the GB bootloaders you need them. No real way to know except flashing a GB rom like cezars package. If it works You didn't need them, If it din't work then you soft bricked your phone and you might need a jig to get in to Download mode again.

mrhaley30705 said:
If you need bootloaders, don't use Cezars.
As these are stock roms, you will lose root. But if you flash any custom ROM, it should be rooted.
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sorry for my ignorance, what is a "stock rom" and what is a "custom ROM" ?

prbassplayer said:
Unless you bought that phone modded with the GB bootloaders you need them. No real way to know except flashing a GB rom like cezars package. If it works You didn't need them, If it din't work then you soft bricked your phone and you might need a jig to get in to Download mode again.
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OK
since I bought the phone from ATT a year ago, running 2.1, I would assume that I do NOT have them, so I do need them

mirceani said:
sorry for my ignorance, what is a "stock rom" and what is a "custom ROM" ?
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A stock rom is that package that Cezare and pretzel posted. A custom rom is Fusion V, Pinnacle, Fasty II, among many many other. All those are based on the stock KH3 that cezar and prertzel posted

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[Q] Question before flashing mods on my Captivate

This may be a noob question but I would like to modify/flash my phone but I have a question before I do. I have done a few searches to find an answer but came up with nothing so far.
I have been browsing the forums for different mods that you can do for the Samsung Captivate. Out of all the mods that I have seen (One Click Lag Fix, Root, Cyanogen, Leaked Froyo Build, GPS settings changes, Removal of AT&T bloatware, unlocking phone for other carriers, side loading enable, and various others), they can ALL be undone using the Odin3 One-Click Stock Rom process correct?
ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Hoever, each captivate has unique phone identification information such as IMEI, Device ID, Wi-Fi MAC Address, etc? Are there any mods that change the unique information for each specific phone? If so, how does Odin3 One-Click Stock ROM process correct that? When Odin3 reflashes to "Stock" ROM, I just want to know how that works if each phone has specific information.
Thanks in advance!
yes they can be undone with odin one click, however once you stray from stock it is most likeley that you wont be able to update to the official 2.2 from att.
personally im going to wait and update to official 2.2 from att then root and nandroid backup and the fun will begin because I will have a backup of the official update with my unique device id to fall back on. in my opinion this is the safest way to make sure I dont screww myself and not be able to update. once that is done it wont be long untill someone builds a decent rom from scratch plus like I stated before I will have a nandroid backup of the update for my phone if I try something and dont like it.
If you still feel compelled I havent gone to the leaked 2.2 but I did have verry good results with stock 2.1 and voodoo lagfix on anather captivate. the phone was verry fast with verry few side effects well woth it if you really cant wait.. But just remember once you stray from stock I believe the only way you will get to 2.2 will be through these forums.
shadow65781 said:
But just remember once you stray from stock I believe the only way you will get to 2.2 will be through these forums.
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anyway whatever you get from these forums will be much faster and cleaner then stock versions...
anyway i got question about the topic - i had stock 2.1 (JF6), backuped it, tried some cognition 2.2 beta, then flashed with odin to stock and the restored my backuped jf6
did my IMEI, Device ID changed?
(wifi's mac address cannot be changed)
thanks in advance
I am speculating here.
I dont think it can change any hardware I.D info but software I.D is anather story it could possibly cause problems with the O.S interfaceing with other stuff like market.
someone with more knowledge please chime in
Theres a new app in the app store (as of a few days ago) that allows you to change your Android ID#. Called Android ID changer
Unfortunately, it won't figure out what your unique # is. If you install Cognition, you have the same ID# as everyone else.
I'm not sure about Odin - stock. My Odin 2.1 # is different than the Cognition one. Ends in 43b1. I'd be really interested to know if anyone else could check their Odin 2.1 eclair JF6 (all stock, not modified) android ID # and see if it ends the same as mine. If it's different, then that means you can always revert to JF6 to figure out your real #. If it's the same, then I guess that means for the time being your SOL for figuring that out for now.
You can always check it before making modifications....
Shadow; you are probably right, but at the end of the day software is all that matters...
Thanks for the responses. Judging from what I have been reading on the replies so far, nothing can bring me back to my original stock android 2.1 OS with all original software IDs my phone had even if I use the steps outlined in the
[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
forum post.
How do you find out what your android ID is?
gormander said:
Thanks for the responses. Judging from what I have been reading on the replies so far, nothing can bring me back to my original stock android 2.1 OS with all original software IDs my phone had even if I use the steps outlined in the
[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
forum post.
How do you find out what your android ID is?
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Just as long as you are running any of the stock eclair 2.1 without any mods all your unique id's wil display correctly, even if you have flashed to cog 2.2 or leaked 2.2 if and when you flash back to a truly stock eclair 2.1 the id's will return correct.
The android id changer app from the market will display the current android id your phone has when you open the app - it shows the current id just above the entry field where you can change your id. So download the app open it get you id write it down, save it in a safe place, then if you flash any rom the does not populate you unique id correctly you can reinstall the android id changer and enter your correct id manually.
Is [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY method a "truly stock eclair 2.1" as you mentioned in your post Davy? Also, are there any other IDs I should be aware of and take note before I flash/mod anything?
Thanks.
gormander said:
Is [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY method a "truly stock eclair 2.1" as you mentioned in your post Davy? Also, are there any other IDs I should be aware of and take note before I flash/mod anything?
Thanks.
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I believe odin 3 one click in that thread is a straight rom off a phone with samsung jf6 stock install - yes I'm fairly certain it is stock. There is another odin 3 one click for the leaked 2.2 which is obviously not stock.
If you download an app from the market named simply " ID " it still give you four of your phones id numbers for your info.
I'm pretty sure all your phones id numbers are either generated from hardware coded info or your google account - so as long as you gave properly coded software on your phone these wil always populate correct - even if you install something that messes these up of you remove the bad software replace it with good software it should then populate the id numbers correctly again.
Such as the android id in the leaked froyo that isn't being generated but simply being copied to every phone it is installed on - when you replace the froyo leak or any of the roms built off the leak with one of the stock samsung roms your phone will then generate the id correctly again.
No thread jack but i thought id ask in here.
If im rooted and ONLY rooted on 2.1 will that not allow me to update to official froyo?
Nickel Dime Bay said:
No thread jack but i thought id ask in here.
If im rooted and ONLY rooted on 2.1 will that not allow me to update to official froyo?
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maybe, maybe not. Some of the people who were rooted only (no mods) were able to update to the jh7 update. And from what I have heard mini kies has worked to update for everyone that flashed back to stock and tried to update that way - but this is all some what of a guess as we don't know exactly how att and/or samsung will role out froyo for the captivate.
You are all really funny. Your worried about getting an official OTA from AT&T so you won't mod your phones, lol. Your choice I guess but the last AT&T OTA bricked a lot of phones that had not even been rooted. The ROMS that you find on these forums are way better than any of the stock Samsung and AT&T put on them with their bloaty, buggy software. I won't do any OTA updates, I wait until the developers here fix them, remove the crap AT&T put's on them and speed them up. I give you guys credit though, staying stock sucks bad, it freaks me out to see that stock screen everytime I flash back to stock before flashing a new ROM to my phone. I only stayed stock for 2 weeks and never turned back, glad I did it too. I would've bought an I Phone 3g if I wanted to stay stock and not mod a phone. Go look around the forums and read the threads, don't just skim them or you won't learn anything. See what custom ROMS and kernels are cooking and what people are experiencing with them. We had the OTA rooted on here a few hours after the update was rolled out, you won't miss anything by not recieving it officailly from AT&T. Hell we already have some good Froyo ROMS and kernels. Keep waiting if you want but there's plenty of goodies here why wait?
Rhiannon224 said:
You are all really funny. Your worried about getting an official OTA from AT&T so you won't mod your phones, lol. Your choice I guess but the last AT&T OTA bricked a lot of phones that had not even been rooted. The ROMS that you find on these forums are way better than any of the stock Samsung and AT&T put on them with their bloaty, buggy software. I won't do any OTA updates, I wait until the developers here fix them, remove the crap AT&T put's on them and speed them up. I give you guys credit though, staying stock sucks bad, it freaks me out to see that stock screen everytime I flash back to stock before flashing a new ROM to my phone. I only stayed stock for 2 weeks and never turned back, glad I did it too. I would've bought an I Phone 3g if I wanted to stay stock and not mod a phone. Go look around the forums and read the threads, don't just skim them or you won't learn anything. See what custom ROMS and kernels are cooking and what people are experiencing with them. We had the OTA rooted on here a few hours after the update was rolled out, you won't miss anything by not recieving it officailly from AT&T. Hell we already have some good Froyo ROMS and kernels. Keep waiting if you want but there's plenty of goodies here why wait?
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Different strokes for different folks man, Its not like im using the tw3.0 and the blue bubble background lol ive customized stock 2.1 how i want it to look and its working PERFECT for ME, fast as hell, gps locks on quick etc. Flashing a rom is nice and all but the risk of bricking youre phone is high (theres always odin i know) and if stock is working for people then more power to them.
The way I look at it is, the phone belongs to you, do what you want with it or to it as you please.
but I do agree with one point above, I personally would not trust a samsung/att update to not mess up my phone. But that does not mean it won't work well for you or that you won't be happy with it that way.
gormander said:
However, each captivate has unique phone identification information such as IMEI, Device ID, Wi-Fi MAC Address, etc? Are there any mods that change the unique information for each specific phone? If so, how does Odin3 One-Click Stock ROM process correct that? When Odin3 reflashes to "Stock" ROM, I just want to know how that works if each phone has specific information.
Thanks in advance!
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IMEI can never change. I don't think your device ID can change buy your Android ID can change as you've been told by those before me. If it possible to change your WiFi MAC address, only I'm not sure how to do it. If you can do it in a full version of Linux, I don't see why it's not possible on our phones. Also, before you do any mods, make sure you backup a couple files onto your computer for safe keeping. The ones I'm talking about are in the /efs directory of your phone and relate to unlocking the phone for other networks. The second you go to mod your phone, these files will be erased and replaced with ones that are harder to get your unlock code out of.

New with Nexus One. Need some guide

Hi there, i bought recently Nexus One. As I discovered it is Vodafone version of N1. So as You guys know im stuck on Android 2.2.1. I would like to go stright to Gingerbread or CM7. And here is my question. (i know i could serch the forums for answers but many can be outdated or i just dont understand something). You guys are pro's so you will find solution for me maybe in seconds, where i will be serching this for hours.
Ok, questions:
- Can i root my phone using a oneclick? (If i will go fot CM7)
- If i would like to go for offical, stock updates, can i use PASSIMG method from wiki? So then i shuld just download downgrade (FRG33 as i remeber) and, step by step upgrade it to gingerbread, or i must do something before it ?(like downgrading to shipping version, mentioned at wiki before passimg method, im a bit confused). Will i get updates then from google and i wil be mo longer depended to Vodafone?
I will be grateful if You will answer my questions or just dp some quick guide. And sorry for my horrible grammar.
Yes, I also bought a Nexus One with a non standard ROM. Like you said you can use the PASSIMG method to downgrade to a stock froyo ROM (i.e. FRG33) and you will be able to then upgrade OTA stait to 2.3.4.
Best to do some research so that you understand all the ins and outs. Check the wiki.
As Dirk said, the best place to start doing your research is on the WiKi. After you have enough information to ask more specific and focused questions, then we will be able to help you a bit better.
PS. I would recommend just using the standard fastboot OEM unlock method of device unlocking and something better than stock such as CyanogenMod since you're new to the phone. You won't be able to relock the bootloader, but if you're not returning it, that's not an issue.
The answers are:
- Yes.
- Yes, no, yes.

Stock Nexus Root Steps

I've been doing a lot of reading regarding rooting the Nexus one and unlocking the bootloader etc. I wish not to unlock the bootloader at this stage (as you can't lock it again, and the fact that i'm gonna be playing around with my dad's phone and wouldnt want anything to happen to that)
Right now, the phone has stock 2.3.4 installed, which I believe needs to be downgraded to be rooted.
So I downloaded the FRG83 release.
Now is the following right/possible:
Flash the phone with FRG83 by going into the phone's recovery - so the phone is downgraded
Root the phone using the superoneclick method
Now the phone is rooted and I can flash it with any custom ROM eg, CyanogenMod 7 etc..?
Sorry if this has been covered earlier, however I tried my best to read as much as I could, however there were always a few more steps involved in the process which I thought could be left out
So would the above process be okay?
Thanks
You have to use the PASSIMG.ZIP method to downgrade.
I would just read the WIKI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
Read the wiki. You said you been doing a lot of reading but still do not know how to root/downgrade from 2.3.4. That makes no sense.
The steps are there for a reason.
You don't know what you're doing but come to conclusion that you can skip/leave out steps. That is flat out stupid.
Thanks
Thanks baseballfanz Yeah I've read the wiki and I was going to use the PASSIMG method, hence downloaded the FRG83 file, but somewhere else I had read that you had to flash it to froyo then back upto gingerbread :/ hence was a bit confused.
The problem is there are too many threads about it. And there are a few tiny differences in all.
So I guess I have to flash down to froyo and then use superoneclick.
And after that, I can just flash any ROM from the forum?
Alubundy2010, mate I did read it all and understood it. However I still had a few questions. If you didnt wanna help, it would've been best to keep your mouth shut.
Thanks
It is clear you did not and still don't understand it.
Yeah probably not, hence why I posted asking for help in the first place. Just spent an hour trying to do it, but stuck at froyo for now till I do an official OTA update tmrw morning and have a stock unrooted phone, cus I honestly don't have the balls to brick my dad's phone. So not rooting till I'm 100% sure of what I'm doing.
Thanks a lot for all the amazing the help.
Wiki clearly says:
"Gingerbread 2.3.4 can be rooted only when downgraded to 2.3.3 or to Froyo, using PASSIMG method, which will wipe the phone"
And the link is given - landing you on the same page, a bit upwards. The link contains EVERYTHING needed to downgrade.
Moreover, the following sentence points you to a VERY simple guide, which says: when you downgrade, you root. Without any additional steps. And from that point you do whatever you want.
The main guideline of XDA should say - "if you don't know what you're doing - stay away from rooting until you do". Obviously you don't, and you don't seem willing to learn by reading the proper guides, even when pointed to.
And just to make sure you got it: you can't root the latest OS version. Which means, if you downgrade and wait for the OTA to upgrade you back to the latest version, you'll finish (again) without the ability to root, and this time also without the ability to downgrade. Not quite smart, yes? If you want to avoid unlocking the bootloader, that is.
Now that the phone is running froyo you can root.
You should also have gotten the ota notification basically as soon as the phone finished booting.
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I've read through
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705460
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084978
think that's a fair few guides I've been through, and that's probably why I can't get it write cus I'm jumping from one page to another :|
Oh well thanks for the help guys, and I did actually do all the reading that was required.
Oh and I also rooted the phone when it was on Froyo through the manual superboot process.

Rooting/flashing precautions?

Hi, there(again!) ...
The more I read around your forum, the more questions and problems I see... my first encounter with mobile software issues, Android and never done rooting/flashing, etc...
so, I want to unlock my Note, so I have to root it and maybe flash it with another ROM.. I have no data/apps, whatsoever I am scared to lose, as it is just a few days old phone.
My Note was manufactured in May 2012 and came (bought used/just opened package and then sold as unwanted gift) locked to Vodafone UK (where I ma at) and it comes with 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6 kernel version...
Now, I pretty much understand what is involved in this process I want to take on, but I have questions not addressed yet:
- will this guide be good enough for my model http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJjh6gi0Spw?
is it possible that since my Note model is newer by production than some of the guides here, that there might be some incompatibilities during rooting and flashing?
-since my 2.3 stock Android is one of later version (and therefore not directly rootable!) , I need to downgrade to an older version stock ROM that is rootable, like N7000XXKKA ------ 2.3.6 2011 November------- N7000CPWKK3, available from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997, and then root it with this (easiest) method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehXcnqntsro and it should all be good?
-I understand that one can't update after having performed root/flashing, unless he un-roots the phone. I also read about all these great custom ROMs like Rocket, KingDroid, Check, etc. So, every time they are installed, the person performs a "clean install" like in Windows, right?
- for my needs and these purposes, do I need to install CFW straight away, before any rooting/flashing, and what elso should I do before attempting to do anything?
-32-bit XP vs. 64-bit Windows 7 laptop for doing this stuff? Which one is less likely to cause any mess?
-when reading about bricked Note(s), I saw also term superbricked being mentioned-what is that? Also, how can one avoid messing up that EMCC chip in Note, after which only Samsung can fix the phone?
sorry guys, for being a noob... But, I am trying to learn....
cmick30 said:
Hi, there(again!) ...
The more I read around your forum, the more questions and problems I see... my first encounter with mobile software issues, Android and never done rooting/flashing, etc...
so, I want to unlock my Note, so I have to root it and maybe flash it with another ROM.. I have no data/apps, whatsoever I am scared to lose, as it is just a few days old phone.
My Note was manufactured in May 2012 and came (bought used/just opened package and then sold as unwanted gift) locked to Vodafone UK (where I ma at) and it comes with 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6 kernel version...
Now, I pretty much understand what is involved in this process I want to take on, but I have questions not addressed yet:
- will this guide be good enough for my model http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJjh6gi0Spw?
is it possible that since my Note model is newer by production than some of the guides here, that there might be some incompatibilities during rooting and flashing?
-since my 2.3 stock Android is one of later version (and therefore not directly rootable!) , I need to downgrade to an older version stock ROM that is rootable, like N7000XXKKA ------ 2.3.6 2011 November------- N7000CPWKK3, available from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997, and then root it with this (easiest) method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehXcnqntsro and it should all be good?
-I understand that one can't update after having performed root/flashing, unless he un-roots the phone. I also read about all these great custom ROMs like Rocket, KingDroid, Check, etc. So, every time they are installed, the person performs a "clean install" like in Windows, right?
- for my needs and these purposes, do I need to install CFW straight away, before any rooting/flashing, and what elso should I do before attempting to do anything?
-32-bit XP vs. 64-bit Windows 7 laptop for doing this stuff? Which one is less likely to cause any mess?
-when reading about bricked Note(s), I saw also term superbricked being mentioned-what is that? Also, how can one avoid messing up that EMCC chip in Note, after which only Samsung can fix the phone?
sorry guys, for being a noob... But, I am trying to learn....
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I have the same version of the Note. I used the method given by the website:
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=unbenannt3bup1.jpg
After that I download the file:
CF-Root-SGN_XX_SER_LA6-v5.0-CWM5
http://download.chainfire.eu/142/CF-Root/SGN/CF-Root-SGN_XX_SER_LA6-v5.0-CWM5.zip
and run the already-rooted.bat to inject the CWM.
Just a curious question but have you seen different methods posted for different n7000? I dont see how its relevant?
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Just a curious question but have you seen different methods posted for different n7000? I dont see how its relevant?
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No, I have not... But, I have seen people using same method on the same model(s) and getting different results, and it is not always that someone skipped the line in the instruction guide to rooting/flashing...
cmick30 said:
Hi, there(again!) ...
) and it comes with 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6 kernel version...
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This is newer non rootable ROM, you can't root it directly
so NO to this
- will this guide be good enough for my model http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJjh6gi0Spw?
cmick30 said:
-I understand that one can't update after having performed root/flashing, unless he un-roots the phone.
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You can update after root, but you lose Root.
cmick30 said:
-32-bit XP vs. 64-bit Windows 7 laptop for doing this stuff? Which one is less likely to cause any mess?
-when reading about bricked Note(s), I saw also term superbricked being mentioned-what is that? Also, how can one avoid messing up that EMCC chip in Note, after which only Samsung can fix the phone?
sorry guys, for being a noob... But, I am trying to learn....
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-Driver should be proper. you can use XP or Win7 Though in my opinion winXP is user friendly for perticular this stuff.
-Superbrick means you can't repair device yourself with just SW, you need to have change motherboard from service centre. This bug have NO any relation in Gingerbread ROM.
SO what option available for you to root is
- Downgrade to directly rootable ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
and root with zrgrush method (running not rootable yet) here is guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
OR
- Flash Prerooted ROM
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18981227&postcount=4
cmick30 said:
No, I have not... But, I have seen people using same method on the same model(s) and getting different results, and it is not always that someone skipped the line in the instruction guide to rooting/flashing...
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Good point. Didnt think of that. Dr Ketans suggestions should definately work.
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Coming from gs3...help a moto n00b out with root and understanding of terminology plz

So I've always owned samsung phones...fell in love with amoled and never looked back...and i gotta tell you, my short spurt with the one xl with having to flash kernels and rom separably and unlocking bootloaders and what not man! i really miss the simplicity of being able to root with odin and never having to look back...everything just worked as it should (the biggest inconvenience we had was having to flash an older kernel on the sg2 before flashing anything above gb) but here I am, ready and willing to embrace the atrix's sexy design but limited development...but I need some clarification that simple searches and reading through threads dont seem to explain quite as thoroughly as other devices portals.
1.) I understand the concept of a bootloader and how it needs to be unlocked in order to flash ROM's and kernels and write to specific partitions of the phone, I just want to ensure that this device has an unlockable bootloader with the latest firmware that it ships with
2.) even more important than bootloader unlocking is root...i see references to SBF's and qslite or something...is this similar to odin for samsung? do i use an SBF (perhaps the equivalent of an RUU for htc or .tar for samsung??) to flash firmwares onto the device, and will a modded version provide SU?
3.) no roms! thats unacceptable. if i can obtain root and recovery, trust me when i say that even while i cant build from source, ill put SOMETHING together, even if its only rooted/themed stock. but what are the odds of rom from other devices being ported?
4.) cheesecake. wtf.
which one of these threads should i use for the latest firmware on the atrix to root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940594
which one of these threads should i use for the latest firmware on the atrix to unlock bootloader?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896526
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985031
does hash's safetrap work for backups on the ahd? i read that flashing is disabled currently, but id still like to backup
gosh so many questions! hope the trolls dont come out on sundays...........................
hapticxchaos said:
So I've always owned samsung phones...fell in love with amoled and never looked back...and i gotta tell you, my short spurt with the one xl with having to flash kernels and rom separably and unlocking bootloaders and what not man! i really miss the simplicity of being able to root with odin and never having to look back...everything just worked as it should (the biggest inconvenience we had was having to flash an older kernel on the sg2 before flashing anything above gb) but here I am, ready and willing to embrace the atrix's sexy design but limited development...but I need some clarification that simple searches and reading through threads dont seem to explain quite as thoroughly as other devices portals.
1.) I understand the concept of a bootloader and how it needs to be unlocked in order to flash ROM's and kernels and write to specific partitions of the phone, I just want to ensure that this device has an unlockable bootloader with the latest firmware that it ships with
2.) even more important than bootloader unlocking is root...i see references to SBF's and qslite or something...is this similar to odin for samsung? do i use an SBF (perhaps the equivalent of an RUU for htc or .tar for samsung??) to flash firmwares onto the device, and will a modded version provide SU?
3.) no roms! thats unacceptable. if i can obtain root and recovery, trust me when i say that even while i cant build from source, ill put SOMETHING together, even if its only rooted/themed stock. but what are the odds of rom from other devices being ported?
4.) cheesecake. wtf.
which one of these threads should i use for the latest firmware on the atrix to root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940594
which one of these threads should i use for the latest firmware on the atrix to unlock bootloader?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896526
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985031
does hash's safetrap work for backups on the ahd? i read that flashing is disabled currently, but id still like to backup
gosh so many questions! hope the trolls dont come out on sundays...........................
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Okay, your bootloader (if it is from att) is not getting unlocked. That is the best way to put it because AT&T ruins everything. Firmware flashing, there is a utility out now. It's the best way to get back to stock. Razr HD roms should be portable, we wont know for sure until we have something to test. Cheesecake is worthless now so don't even worry about it. Moto blocked us from accessing their servers. It really seems like you aren't going to like this to be completely honest. You are probably more of a nexus 4 or gs3 guy....
SirHoover2010 said:
Okay, your bootloader (if it is from att) is not getting unlocked. That is the best way to put it because AT&T ruins everything. Firmware flashing, there is a utility out now. It's the best way to get back to stock. Razr HD roms should be portable, we wont know for sure until we have something to test. Cheesecake is worthless now so don't even worry about it. Moto blocked us from accessing their servers. It really seems like you aren't going to like this to be completely honest. You are probably more of a nexus 4 or gs3 guy....
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sincerely, ill get by with just root so to sum it all up, no bl unlock or proper recovery, but purely just root (which is fine by me ) which i can obtain by using THIS? seems your the one who made that tool kit so your clearly the man to ask i can use your utility to obtain root, and even retain root after the upgrade to the test build of jb?
your so awesome sirhoover
hapticxchaos said:
sincerely, ill get by with just root so to sum it all up, no bl unlock or proper recovery, but purely just root (which is fine by me ) which i can obtain by using THIS? seems your the one who made that tool kit so your clearly the man to ask i can use your utility to obtain root, and even retain root after the upgrade to the test build of jb?
your so awesome sirhoover
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Yes you can use that utility to obtain root

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