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Hey guys. kind of funny to wake up and know that i was right about the whole 4g working on a 3g device. Either you guys just want to believe it sooo bad that it clouded your judgments and made you assume you had 4g? Funny thing is, would you expect to have 3g on your old Nokia 3200. I doubt it. Same theory. Cannot, and will never be able to carry a 4g signal, on a non 4g device. EVER. Lol. Good one on their part, but seeing as there such "big bad Dev's" they shouldn't have done that to the community like that. I mean people follow you guys habitually, and it could have messed their phones up. Just saying. Anyways, here are some of my favorites from the madness. Peoples personal experiences with the "super-d-2G-day". Not April fools. BenD-fools day.
1.)Bwinger79 wrote - "I can confirm that this is working on the T-mobile USA network. My average DL speed was roughly 550k/sec and now its well over 1200k/sec.....and thats on a T-Mo tower that has more than your average amount of connections. Cant wait to get home and test this on a tower with less traffic" - Classic. Megaspeeds with 2g, naaaa.
2.)Proxin wrote - "You must install adb to have the proper permissions set for your hardware (usually your hardware only supports 3g/edge speeds for data, but this patches the connection output so that it tells the phone to allow 4G)." - Ahhh, the scientific approach to believing in something false.
3.)Jook11 said - "eah, I had a 4G symbol for a few minutes when I flashed this but speed test looked more like EDGE. anyway the 4G icon went back to 3G before long and I havent seen it again." - A firm believer due to the icons. Haa.
4.)BBuchacher said - "the speed is not up to 4g or sometimes its worse than 3g, but you ARE accessing a 4g network, the speeds will be improved as we work more on the code" - Adding fuel to the fast spreading fire.
5.)Cal-El wrote - "I only have the 3G icon but man my downloads and page loading are really flying and not placebo maybe its faster but really noticable. I belive it. " - This has to be the best one. SMH. "I believe it"
Okay guys your turn. I wanna see what your favs are. Here is the link to the post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656499&page=2
lol a whole bunch of futhus
Lol, I wasn't even in on the whole conspiracy thing. Funny how people just believed a non-dev who told them to install adb.apk while in airplane mode.
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Lol, I wasn't even in on the whole conspiracy thing. Funny how people just believed a non-dev who told them to install adb.apk while in airplane mode.
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I hope you know I was only playing along, I'm not stupid
Lol i wasn't in on it either and I knew there was something fishy about the whole thing. It was funny as hell though when I saw the posts that the OP posted on this thread. Made my day lol
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I hope you know I was only playing along, I'm not stupid
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I wasn't referring to you specifically - there were like 4 or 5 people who tried the full thing
is it possible tethering via usb or wifi??
Anyone know a way to use this terminal as a modem??
steed64 said:
is it possible tethering via usb or wifi??
Anyone know a way to use this terminal as a modem??
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Currently no, I sent an email to wifirouter which made the great app for our HD2's and the only reply they gave me was no so good, and that for how they see the OS now, it doesnt allow for it.
Lets hope Windows fixes that. Cause we need that. I really really need that.
This one has been beaten to death in other threads but for what it's worth +1 for tethering feature here as well.
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This one has been beaten to death in other threads but for what it's worth +1 for tethering feature here as well.
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really? what other threads has it been beaten down on? I am the one who mentioned and asked about this in a different thread, that was about a few general topics not specifically this one.
here are three....want more ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814586&highlight=tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823011
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here are three....want more ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814586&highlight=tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823011
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u call that beat up? a few threads on it, and one of them is by me
okay... you win... bring on the tethering Microsoft !
Damn i have a 2 week business trip and i just found out this phone does not have tethering 0mg now wat....
well, this is gonna be good news for those who would like to see
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/...net-tethering-in-windows-phone-7-samsung-wp7/
i hope this gonna be for HTC phone as well.
yes tethering is needed..pls 1+
This is true its the biggest thing the phone is missing, that being said though personally im so glad it does not as all i got form my wife when i had my desire was "hook me up" bloody ipods lol
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well, this is gonna be good news for those who would like to see
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/...net-tethering-in-windows-phone-7-samsung-wp7/
i hope this gonna be for HTC phone as well.
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Doesnt do us much good, and I really hope they come out with it soon, even if it is third party like we had on the HD2, i hate dragging my HD2 around to see clients just to have that one feature.
Any news or rumor about hd7 tether we need the update really soon.
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Any news or rumor about hd7 tether we need the update really soon.
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not that I have seen, my HD7 is a paper weight right now, since that is all it is good for, i got fed up with all the missing things went back to HD2.
Man, I'm right there with you. Same thing. Microsoft took a step backwards. Disappointment. I have to keep switching SIM cards to my AT&T tilt to tether. Serious BS.
all these answers have really really pushed me back, not buying until MS fixes all or most of the common things, tether, bluetooth atleast
I just got HD7 from ebay and got in love with it and the WP7 system in one hour time. But last and most important thing for me that I checked was usb tethering.
What a disappointment.
I hope M$ will make it soon available or I'll get rid of the phone unfortunately
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I just got HD7 from ebay and got in love with it and the WP7 system in one hour time. But last and most important thing for me that I checked was usb tethering.
What a disappointment.
I hope M$ will make it soon available or I'll get rid of the phone unfortunately
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Eh u just got the phone, give it a few days, ull grow to hate it
But yes, tethering not present is a big let down, along with many missing items, and the mid January BIG update, is nothing more then new fixes for market place and cut/paste to shut us up, which is still not here soooooo....
thats why im glad i kept my HD2
has anyone tried using the DFrouter xap posted in the hd2 development forum? You need a jailbroken device for that though..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922000
First, is there any updates concerning tethering on the HD7? And second, why is everyone blaming Microsoft when they have already said that its availible but up to the carriers to offer it?
Heya Folks,
I followed the instructions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...43&postcount=1 and applied them to the services.jar from the latest build of MIUI.
See the attached flashable .zip file. I strongly suggest making a nandroid backup due to this being my first attempt at doing this. It booted just fine on my device.
Let me know if it works!
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I think a bit of clarity is needed here. This mod will only stop Verizon from slowing down your data speeds.
It will NOT help you avoid overage charges.
For example let's say you're on a 250mb a month plan. This mod only ensures that you will get 250mb at unrestrcited speeds. Going over 250mb will still result in an overage charge.
Also, the reason people keep referring to 5gb on their "unlimited" plan is because Verizon starts to throttle data speeds after 5gb of data. That doesn't mean you get charged more, Verizon just slows you down. This mod will prevent that, and only that.
I hope that clears things up.
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Thanks!
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interesting, and thank you!?
im nand'ing now.. any good way to actually test and see the before and after difference?
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interesting, and thank you!?
im nand'ing now.. any good way to actually test and see the before and after difference?
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Heya,
Only way to test would be to run a speedtest.net over your 3g connection before and after flashing. My 3G sucks here so I can't really test it. I followed it step by step going off of the instructions however.
Just curious if anyone tested this? I know the zip works just curious if anyone has played around with it. My 3g sucks where I live so I feel it isn't an accurate test here
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I don't think you will notice a difference, I thought this mod pretty disabled throttling after you use 5GB of data in a month
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Can't speak for the MIUI, but SR 3.5 showed significant improvements.
Guess it doesn't hurt to give it a shot.
So can this be flashed to any rom? I have a droid x and I am using the Liberty rom.
No, it is ROM specific.
I tried this patch on 1.1.7 N1 services.jar and got a FC in settings>system>Mobile Network settings. Does a similar thing happen on 12.24 Dinc?
No, this particular thread only worked for 12.24 for the incredible...
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im nand'ing now.. any good way to actually test and see the before and after difference?
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No, because there is no difference and flashing this on any rom does nothing but break your one settings menu as mentioned.
As has been previously stated this feature is not actively used by verizon, if it was used you would see a notification icon in regards to it when it is enabled as that is part of the code.
This feature was built by google as an option for carriers should a large majority of customers use android devices, but the bottom line is if vzw wants to throttle your data they do it at the account/network level. Not on your device. Any improvement people report from making this change is a complete placebo / fluke or just a fluctuation in their signal quality / network congestion at the time.
some apps requires root for it to works.
We don't know if it will be a locked bootloader. Let's hope it isn't and Moto is keeping to their promise to "work with both parties":
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-well-work-with-developers
I would love to know this too when the information is avaliable, i'm tring to get rid of my iphone to leave the big brother. If moto is going to pulling this crap then i'm going to get a htc or something else.
at&t will probably ask to be locked bootloader since at&t is pure evil
I don't understand why it seems to be such a big deal that Motorola has locked bootloader, since even the Nexus S has one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875580
Is there some sublety I'm missing? Is the "moto lock" harder to bypass than the "Sammy lock"?
What about the ATT and Verizon whole upgrade policy now. What the hell is going on there. i hate these companies
I don't understand why it seems to be such a big deal that Motorola has locked bootloader, since even the Nexus S has one?
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Yes, the "fastboot oem unlock" command only works on select devices mainly the Nexus One and Nexus S (probably a few other ones too like the milestone)
Most other phones have locked down bootloader by the manufacturer and do not unlock in the same way. You can take the Sony Xepria as an example of the worst possible scenario for having a locked phone
If Moto doesn't release the unlocking procedure, it will take time and in some case will not be possible to unlock the device and there won't be any Dev community actively working on the device.
Honestly they should all release the locked & unlocked version. You want peace of mind you get the locked version. You want to risk brick'ing your phone you get the unlocked and the carrier/manufacturer don't not to deal with you.
IMO this is who it should be.
yea..i am excited about this product and posted over in the Gtab forum (since Gtab is the WHOLE of my android experience being a 2+year iphone user)...and immediately was told "nope, not going to get one as it will most likely be locked".
Understood and appreciated but...
Well...look, i don't mind locked if the darn thing ships with working software and has at least 90% of the functionality i want out of the box. For example..as boring as the iphone has gotten, it works so i am ok with it being a walled garden.
In the case of the Gtab, its VERY intensively being rooted and and thats a good thing..because it was A NON FUNCTIONAL pos out of the box so modding it was a MUST.
Likewise if the Atrix works well out of the box ill be fine with it..if it doesnt work so great and is locked down..i either wont be buying one or ill be taking it back within the 3 day period.....
We will see i guess as i am kinda tired of how limited the iphone really is. I want an SD card and the ability to side load working stuff without using itunes. I want an HDMI output that i can watch movies on the hotel flat screen tvs just by plugging in my phone to it. I want to be able to get lap top functionality and/or use it as a mobile hot spot. I want to be able to hack in and get full use of tv.com and hulu. I want my sling box to work. I want to stream blue tooth to my car along with pandora and have blue tooth head phone funcionality, i want lots of cool easy to get and use apps. I want something i can get a keyboard to for content creation or at least give me a slide out keyboard (lets face it, touch screen is not as good for creating content no matter HOW good you are at the onscreen touch style key pads).
The atrix looks to fit the bill where as my Gtab is having to pull %75 of what i WISH my iphone could do for me (netflix being the exception of something my iphone does, that droid wont do). But for watching movies/tv, pluggin in a key board and typing, and surfing on a larger touch screen i could not be happier and am glad i avoided an ipad......I would also like better MS office/exchange support but think the atrix is an over all better solution than going with a win7 phone just for that one piece of the picture...
The hardware is there...the connectivity is there. It is 100% all going to come down to software and execution to determine if this thing is the solution i hope it will be versus a complete waste of time and energy (in which case it's... Samsung Infuse vs an HTC ((and continuing using the gtab )) i guess....)....
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at&t will probably ask to be locked bootloader since at&t is pure evil
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Yea, and installing apps from other than the market probably wont be allowed either.
Luckily that was all easy to fix on the Galaxy S, it was so easy to be rooted and load custom ROMS. Heck, there was a root procedure out for it before it was even released officially.
I'm with Allen. As long as it works, little need to mod it anyway.
The only mod that is a must is rooting to simply remove all the ATT junk.
But how can you remove system data( Att junk) if you can not have r/w access to system.
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I'm with Allen. As long as it works, little need to mod it anyway.
The only mod that is a must is rooting to simply remove all the ATT junk.
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But how can you remove system data( Att junk) if you can not have r/w access to system.
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He said the only thing you need is root.
Nah, root and rom allows you to make it your *****. Otherwise your just dryhumping. Let us hope the smart guys make progress on this. I will not buy any phone that does not have developer support here. That one thing gives a phone a lot of extra legs and everything between here and end of life is the better for it. I'm a shoe in to buy this one if there are no other more worthy hardware options coming soon but I'll stick with my N1 if it cant be made to raise the whit flag until the next thing comes. XDA developer support IS NOT OPTIONAL!
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Nah, root and rom allows you to make it your *****. Otherwise your just dryhumping. Let us hope the smart guys make progress on this. I will not buy any phone that does not have developer support here. That one thing gives a phone a lot of extra legs and everything between here and end of life is the better for it. I'm a shoe in to buy this one if there are no other more worthy hardware options coming soon but I'll stick with my N1 if it cant be made to raise the whit flag until the next thing comes. XDA developer support IS NOT OPTIONAL!
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lmao ditto on all accounts!
Agreed. I sincerely hope moto doesn't bone us. Although i'm confused. from what I read the Droid X had a huge hullaballo about the efuse, however i've also read that there's no efuse with the tegra2, and the Droid X has custom roms. So what would a locked bootloader be? Are people referring to and "unlockable" locked bootloader?
I just want to see if the Atrix has wifi tether out of the box or if i'll have to *****-mount some other solution (IE; PDAnet). I really hope it either is out of the box or someone gets it running shortly after. PdaNet just did not seem to get on well with my ipad, and my captivate and streak both worked extremely well with the one built into 2.2
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Agreed. I sincerely hope moto doesn't bone us. Although i'm confused. from what I read the Droid X had a huge hullaballo about the efuse, however i've also read that there's no efuse with the tegra2, and the Droid X has custom roms. So what would a locked bootloader be? Are people referring to and "unlockable" locked bootloader?
I just want to see if the Atrix has wifi tether out of the box or if i'll have to *****-mount some other solution (IE; PDAnet). I really hope it either is out of the box or someone gets it running shortly after. PdaNet just did not seem to get on well with my ipad, and my captivate and streak both worked extremely well with the one built into 2.2
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Custom roms built on motorola's kernels. That's the big thing turn off with the DX/2/2Global/Milestone/everything besides the OG Droid.
That does make sense. But can a custom rom built on motos kernel enable items like wifi tether?
I doubt ATT will alow wifi tether out the box unless they can control it and charge you for it
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I doubt ATT will alow wifi tether out the box unless they can control it and charge you for it
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That I understand, even expect. However my streak and captivate were able to get it via roms, I was curious if that will be possible with a locked bootloader on the atrix. I'm not overly familiar with the development scene beyond loading roms and flashing kernals (ie I can do it but couldn't make my own). So I don't know if being limited to the moto kernal would restrict you from having wifi tether and was hoping someone more experienced could answer that one.
I think yes..
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That does make sense. But can a custom rom built on motos kernel enable items like wifi tether?
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At least for Milestone is Ok, nadlabak CM6 for example work really fine regarding tethering (USB and WiFi)
Let's hope a master piece like Atrix could be rooted and improved (if that's possible)
Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D
It has something to do with the dhcpd service. I'm looking at the code to see if there's an "easy" way around it.
why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.
why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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Its more cumbersome than root tasks to me
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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.
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I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.
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I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.
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Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore
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Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore
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I meant trickery as in some sort of magical method that can't be explained. We can be aware of it's presence, but not aware of how it works. We're not aware of either at the moment
If we hacked it but aren't using it, can verizon find out?
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I think it would be extremely difficult for then because it replaces codes so that your connected device doesn't come up as an external device but as the phone still using its data...
Is that a yes or no to my question? Lol
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jediman said:
Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D
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How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?
virus5877 said:
How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.
^I say no
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.
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I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...
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^I say no
I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...
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Yah -- some are okay to uninstall, like the obvious ones (BlockBuster, Citrix, etc.) but some will break dialer/contacts, etc. like all the authenticators.
Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.
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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.
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this is a problem for you because u used 18gb of memory, which I don't understand how u do but for moderate usage its good...
royolpunk said:
Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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That was quick lol
/droid3
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That was quick lol
/droid3
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Lol. Dunno what happened
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