[Q] Best Kernel - Bang for Buck? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

We all know this question has been asked many times before; but that's just it, times BEFORE. With the Nexus One, things have changed, IE: newer ROMs and Kernels. I though I would just ask the following to find out what's best now-a-days. (But if this question has been asked recently, please forgive my dumbass-ness, I will remove this post then.)
What's the best kernel for the N1? I'm looking for something not much as 'overclocked' but something good on the battery yet is powerful enough for smooth animations. BTW: I'm on the latest MIUI. I guess I'm saying BatteryLife>Performance (never thought I would...) Thanks.

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[Q] Speed mod is SLOWER?

Hello everyone, I have a Captivate flashed with a darkytt3r v8.1 ROM. I ran a quadrant standard benchmark and got a pretty good 1105 Mhz. Then I realized I hadn't even flashed speedmod-kernel-i897-k12o-500hz-CWM. After I flashed it from the SGS kernal flasher and then i did another benchmark and got 1018. Did that ROM come with a better speed mod that I overwrote with this one? Can anybody suggest a good speed mod to put on my phone? I like to have my phone push the boundary's of going so fast it combusts so the faster the bester
Am I seeing double?
As long as you try to fix it you can see whatever you want haha
Stop using quadrant!!!
Use whatever kernel feels fastest.
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I am sure that soon there are going to be anti-quadrant lynchmobs comprised of more than half the people in the SGS forums.
Dupont, the succinct fact of the matter is that quadrant means nothing.
As far as I know (and am concerned), Linpack is the only somewhat worthwhile benchmarking utility, second only to simply how the UI feels in your hands.
Also, before we jump to conclusions, do you enable any lagfixes?
Beyond what I've already stated, it doesn't take all that much to quickly look over the 5 or so worthwhile kernels in the development section and make an educated decision on your own.
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
Dupontrocks11 said:
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
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That quadrant disparity you might be experiencing might be due to darky 8.1 having a preinstalled, enabled by default lagfix that disappeared when you installed the speedmod kernel.
I don't mean to be a tough-love welcome party (by the way, welcome to the android community), but I know I did a lot of reading about, messing with, and messing up my phone before I even joined the captivate forums.
Do yourself a favor and read some of the dev stickies about ROMs, kernels, and modems just to get a bit better of an idea of their basic purpose/function, then look through the rest of the dev threads for kernels that might be what you're looking for, but (more importantly) would be compatible with your ROM.
It seems like a PITA, but knowing more about how your phone works will benefit you a great deal in the long run. Put in the time, reading, and careful experimenting right now, and you'll be flashing ROMs like a pro in no time.
Speedmod is also just the name of a Kernel. It is not a type of thing that goes on your phone. If you want the fastest speed, use an overclocked Kernel. I have used them in the past, but have always came back to Speedmod because it gets updated so regularly and also has the Voodoo Sound fix.
Thanks guys. I have no problem flashing roms as I watched many video on how to and read many articles on it. Also it might help that my father is senior member of this site with more than 10000 posts . I'll search through and see if I can't learn more about it.
Thanks again, Richard
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[Q] Which ROM is right for me?

There are a ton of ROMS out there for the Captivate and I've tried quite a few of them. However, I'm not sure what the differences are or which one is right for me.
I've heard of:
Cognition, Perception (by Designgears)
FireFly, Phoenix (seems like these are by the same person)
Serendipity
I haven't tried Serendipity or Perception, but I've tried the others I listed. Various ROMS say they are based off of KB1 and JP6 (I probably have these wrong) as well as various other 3-letter names. I'm not really sure what these mean, but I think they relate to the ROM being based off of Android v2.1 or Android v2.2.
Here are a couple of things I'm looking for in a ROM:
Battery life is important to me. Most roms so far have been very good at this so long as I change the Wifi sleep policy to "Only when plugged in". If WIFI is on permanently, my battery life is crap.
I prefer a good theme. FireFly's theme is pretty good. It looks great and has nice window animations.
Must be at least Android v2.2. Gingerbread would be awesome but not a requirement.
Stability. Specifically, all phone/hardware features need to work and there should be minimal bugs. For example, using CM7 for Captivate at this point would be out of the question since it's still so young and I've heard it is unstable/buggy.
Based on what I've tried and my requirements, Cognition probably isn't going to be an option. The last time I used Cognition (when it was v3), it wasn't themed and was just an optimized version of stock.
Firefly, Phoenix and Serendipity all seem to be the same thing but with a slightly varied theme. I'm most confused by this. What are the differences here? If there are technical differences, I'd like to know those too. I think each are based off of different firmwares, right?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
I am sorry but you really need to try them and seed what works best for you
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I am sorry but you really need to try them and seed what works best for you
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This is not helpful at all. This is what I've been doing.
I need someone to go over the technical differences between my choices, since I don't fully understand them myself. I have yet to find a guide somewhere that talks about the technical differences between all of them.
Can someone else provide some helpful input?
void.pointer said:
This is not helpful at all. This is what I've been doing.
I need someone to go over the technical differences between my choices, since I don't fully understand them myself. I have yet to find a guide somewhere that talks about the technical differences between all of them.
Can someone else provide some helpful input?
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The best place to find any info abt any ROM/kernel would its OP. Try looking there.
Plus there won't be so much use of anyone compiling the differences 'cos a new version would be out every now n then. This is one of the reasons why there is no such thing.
Rather than asking for something generic like this, u could ask more specific questions like say. That way u wud get ur answers sooner.
mcord11758 said:
I am sorry but you really need to try them and seed what works best for you
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I am with this. Cos a kernel that works on mine might not give the same results on urs.
void.pointer said:
Here are a couple of things I'm looking for in a ROM:
Battery life is important to me. Most roms so far have been very good at this so long as I change the Wifi sleep policy to "Only when plugged in". If WIFI is on permanently, my battery life is crap.
I prefer a good theme. FireFly's theme is pretty good. It looks great and has nice window animations.
Must be at least Android v2.2. Gingerbread would be awesome but not a requirement.
Stability. Specifically, all phone/hardware features need to work and there should be minimal bugs. For example, using CM7 for Captivate at this point would be out of the question since it's still so young and I've heard it is unstable/buggy.
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
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1. wifi always has phone searching for it all time the screen is on. So keep it in when screen turns off, or the option u selected.
2. Themes are personal choices. Based on the ROM u choose, u can select theme of ur choice, or make a theme urself. There are guidelines posted.
3. Most ROMs now are 2.2.1. Would be mentioned in the OP.
4. Custom ROMs cannot guarantee that. Devs take all care and iron out issues when they find or when someone tells them abt them.
Check out a few ROMs and settle for one that suits u. And if u plan on putting on custom ROMs, don't bother on keeping ur hands clean. I think I flashed more than a dozen different ROMs before settling for what I am on now. And since I now found what suits me best, been sticking to it.
This is the normal process most people follow here.
void.pointer said:
This is not helpful at all. This is what I've been doing.
I need someone to go over the technical differences between my choices, since I don't fully understand them myself. I have yet to find a guide somewhere that talks about the technical differences between all of them.
Can someone else provide some helpful input?
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Unfortunately, mcord11758 and diablo009 are right.
The differences are minimal, and you need to research each ROM. The very basics are.
MOST roms right now are running Froyo 2.2.1. Some are still 2.2. The JPY, JS3, JS5, KB1(Stock 2.2) Are, for lack of a better definition, are build numbers.
What you'll need to do is, quite frankly, read up on one that has your interest, flash it and if it doesnt work well for you try another. Each Captivate may respond to a ROM differently to the ROM/Kernel/Modem combination. So you literally have to try it

quick question on ROM opinion

I have and was using the Cappy until they Thunderbolt came out (which i am LOVING btw) and i had the current version of Serendipity on it at the time the TB came out. I am getting ready to sell it, i had Cognition on it before and i liked Serendipity more. Is Serendipity still one of the top ROMs? It looks like Mosaic has built up some steam also.
Is Serendipity still one of the top ROMs?
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I'm distilling your question down to this. Simple answer: no one can tell you this but yourself. You're going to have to decide what works best for you, and if Serendipity is a top ROM in your opinion, then it's a top ROM.
Sorry for the relatively short post, but I thought I'd throw this out there before someone else reminds you that these posts come up often, and are usually closed down pretty quick.
i know it's opinion based, but if you mess with alot of them, the general consensus will see which ones seem to be the fastest and/or most stable after trying quite a few of them. Thats the info i was looking for. I guess the real question is what seems to be hot for the Cappy right now since i have been out of the loop for 3-4 months.
Is CM7 in Alpha still? or is it Final?
leoingle said:
i know it's opinion based, but if you mess with alot of them, the general consensus will see which ones seem to be the fastest and/or most stable after trying quite a few of them. Thats the info i was looking for. I guess the real question is what seems to be hot for the Cappy right now since i have been out of the loop for 3-4 months.
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I'd say that whatever ROMs are at the top of the list in the development section are probably the ones getting the most attention and support. People tend to talk about ones that are being actively used, developed, and maintained.
Can't answer the question about CM7, though.
leoingle said:
i know it's opinion based, but if you mess with alot of them, the general consensus will see which ones seem to be the fastest and/or most stable after trying quite a few of them. Thats the info i was looking for. I guess the real question is what seems to be hot for the Cappy right now since i have been out of the loop for 3-4 months.
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The only definitive thing I can say is that 2.2 ROMs are better than 2.3 ROMs in the sense that they're more stable and more complete, but that's it. The difference in 2.2 ROMs comes down to personal preference, as does the difference in 2.3 ROMs.
There's a reason these threads get closed almost immediately: THEY SUCK! No one can tell you what ROM is best for you.

[POLL] Which rom?

Hey Yall, I'm a longtime cappy user,
Have had a couple already but I have moved on to the Atrix, great phone btw,
But the cappy still holds a special place for me. Anyhow, I would like to get everyone's help in deciding roms for my Dad and Wife, Which I'm giving cappy's to as presents.
Now The main reason is that I would like to keep in touch using the gtalk voice application. (I travel alot and this is very usefull when I'm abroad).
So , in you guys oppinion, what would be the best ROM for people who don't mess with the phones and just want them to work and being able to use 2.3+
Thanks
Gabe
its all about personal preference. cant really have a 3rd party tell em whats best for them. threads like this gets closed quickly.wth that said already, there's stock 2.3.3 KF1 for i897. i think stock is best for non-phonemodders
Yeah, I tend to agree with that stock would be best. But the thing is that I think google talk voice and video capabilities are dependant on it being 2.3.4 or +.I'm not sure,
Basically I would like to know about the roms that aren't as jumpy as other. Because As I Agree with it being a personal user problem, whn my fam have phne problems it usually falls in my lap.
Thanks,
PS: I hope this tread dosen't get closed as fast as you say, I figure it's the Q/A forum, if it cant be posted here, where can it, right?
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PS: I hope this tread dosen't get closed as fast as you say, I figure it's the Q/A forum, if it cant be posted here, where can it, right?
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They are looked down upon. Each developer puts their own time and hard work in to their roms. And having whoever say this one is best and that one sucks is not called for. Because everyone has their own opinions and no two are the same. Same for every rom they have their differences. which people may like and may not like.
Is why i look down on best rom threads.
I respect that.
I have hoped to have worded differently where What I meant was:
The ROM that has been toughly tested, and isn't dependent of users expertise on CPU OC, Configuration Files, Knowledge of ROOT explorer, SQL Browsers, ETC. (under the hood stuff)
Something that doesn't necessarily offer all the configurations options, that might get someone in trouble, that also offers the current latest android subversion.
I guess it's too much of a complicated question for a just simple yes or no.
So I guess I'll just find myself content in have asked.
I ment no harm in my comment but,
If you don't want them messing with so so or having this or that as an option then just leave them on stock like CremeFraiche had said (And maybe with lag fix kernel, if its still around) or teach them (if they are willing to learn) what stuff means, dose, and how it works. They in turn can decide on what they would want to suit them best.
I hope some of this can help you out
gabloco said:
Hey Yall, I'm a longtime cappy user,
Have had a couple already but I have moved on to the Atrix, great phone btw,
But the cappy still holds a special place for me. Anyhow, I would like to get everyone's help in deciding roms for my Dad and Wife, Which I'm giving cappy's to as presents.
Now The main reason is that I would like to keep in touch using the gtalk voice application. (I travel alot and this is very usefull when I'm abroad).
So , in you guys oppinion, what would be the best ROM for people who don't mess with the phones and just want them to work and being able to use 2.3+
Thanks
Gabe
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I think a great fit for ur Dad and wife would be Cognition 5 v1.00
Based on the leaked I897UCKF1 Gingerbread 2.3.3
MIUI definately!!!!!
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I would say Apex 8.2 or Serendipity 7
As far as GB ROMs go, I've only tried Apex. I liked it, it has good performance and runs pretty smooth. I haven't gotten around to trying out the other GB ROMs yet so I can't say anything about them. However a rooted ROM might not be the best to go with for them. Both of my parents got Captivates so I could be their goto guy for instruction and debug. I think giving them a Rooted phone is just asking for additional trouble. I think a stock ROM with a nice theme (if you want them to be a little different) is the way to go for them.

Any Recommended Roms?

Ok so I've been on serendipity 7 for a while now, and since I did that i've dropped pretty much from keeping up to date on any thing rom related.. My phone starts acting funny sometimes so I think its time for an update..
So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to which rom to use. My preferences are that its very fast and responsive on the cappy, very stable and nearly bug free.. GPS that works with <30s lock time..
I've thought of trying CM7 or even CM9 for that matter since I think ICS looks pretty good.
Tho I'd like to hear people's suggestions that have done nothing but flash different roms on a daily basis to try out..
Thank you for any suggestions made..
To suggest again, read the threads try a few and see what fits you best.
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See I would try other roms, to see which I like best, however I just don't have the time to sit there and flash roms over and over again, I'm a busy person that needs his phone to just work with the apps that I need.. So I can't be flashing each day to install apps each day to try to find which rom I like best out of the hundreds there are..
Which is why I asked for anyone's suggestions that have tried multiple roms already. I've already looked around and really can't decide on one, which is why, again I'm asking for a little assistance. I don't need people like you to come in here telling me to go look when thats what I've already done..
Well, based off your comments it sounds like you should leave it stock or what you already have.
Since you don't have time to hack things around, it's not best to switch when you already have something installed or could go to a stock working/rooted phone.
Ask each person here and you may get a different answer, its a preference thing.
Really a loaded question.
Best thing to do is to try them each out, but you don't have the time - so...
Try out Doc's Master ICS V12, best rom there is. I have install many different roms and i always felt there is something missing. You will like it if you give it a try.
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See I would try other roms, to see which I like best, however I just don't have the time to sit there and flash roms over and over again, I'm a busy person that needs his phone to just work with the apps that I need.. So I can't be flashing each day to install apps each day to try to find which rom I like best out of the hundreds there are..
Which is why I asked for anyone's suggestions that have tried multiple roms already. I've already looked around and really can't decide on one, which is why, again I'm asking for a little assistance. I don't need people like you to come in here telling me to go look when thats what I've already done..
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We are all the same. Point being, spend some time to read about each rom thread and comments and decide what you want for yourself. There's no easy way out, asking here will give you mixed responses. If you dont wanna pit the time to try roms, then stay on stock. Its simple and works without problems=the real time saver.
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It's nice to get people's suggestions, (especially developers and testers) when it comes to the different options.
In my unprofessional opinion, CM9 was very smooth for me, and the most stable one I've tried so far. I like the look and customization of aokp nostalgia, which is what I'm currently on. I was on Doc's Master 11, and that was nice as well. besides that I haven't tried the others yet, so I can't give you too much more. Good luck!

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