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Rooted G1 with Cyanogen... only 14 MB internal Memory left?

Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.

You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?

Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.

pewterwest said:
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.

pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669

Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...

Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
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[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714

Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)

The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.

djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?

pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!

[Q] Internal memory question

Hey guys, I tried searching to see if this was possible a repeated question but didn't find anything so I am sorry if it has already been covered and I missed it.
Anyways, a few days ago I put cyanogen froyo on my hero but didn't like it so I reverted back to my nandroid backup. Then I tried 2 different 2.1 roms that allowed LWPs, ZenHero and Regaw 2.1. I ended up reverting back to my original nandroid backup but now my internal memory only shows 34MB free, which was previously 16 until I ran cachecleaner. I'm somewhat of a noob to android and have been doing a lot of reading on here before I make any change to my phone. But the 34mb seems abnormally low. Is there any possibility that some of the previous ROMs have left data on my phone which is causing this? If so how can I go about completely wiping all of them from my system?
Again, sorry if this has been covered. I tried my best to see if it has been asked before, and thanks for any advice you may have.
I've said it before but I am really impressed with the developers here and the friendliness and helpfulness of the community here.

Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.

pbp776 said:
Which ROM?
How many apps you installed?
Are you using A2SD?
If you not using A2SD which move the App to SD card then you will run low on space on /data.
I'm hoping you talking about Internal Phone storage memory.
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1. Currently I am back on the nandroid backup of the original 2.1. I have put on cyanogen 2.2, ZenHero, and RegawMod on it previously. I used cyanogen twice so I was worried that maybe when I installed the second time that it installed again in a separate location taking up twice the space. If that makes sense.
2. I don't know the exact number but I wouldn't say it is anything large. Maybe in the 10-15 range. I went through the application manager and sorted by size, most of them were under 1mb with a few noteable exceptions (google maps, facebook, and soem other games around the 3mb range). I did notice that my contacts storage was 20+mb, probably because it synced with my facebook and downloaded everyones picture...not just my contacts. After clearing the cache for contacts storage it went down to 340kb. I lost the facebook sync, but it was beginning to annoy me anyway.
3. Not atm, however I should probably get on this since I just got a 4 gb class 6 sdhc. I haven't messed with the partitions yet though, baby steps.
Yes, I am talking about the internal storage. I have 3+gb free on my card.

It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.

pbp776 said:
It seems like Dalvik cache and /data/data must be using up the space.
I used to have 25 mb internal storage before I moved the apps to SD. I had space problem like this long time ago with 2.0 and 2.1. After I got mine 8 GB class 6 card two moths ago, I moved my apps to SD and my internal memory is around 60 MB since than. I haven't moved my dalvik-cache to SD.
If your using 2.1 deodexed version of the ROM, I'm guessing it normal for this ROM as it use more internal space for dalvik-cache.
Other guru might cheap in to correct my understand on deodexed version of the rom.
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Thanks so much, I was concerned that I was somehow dwindling my memory down and fearful that another rom would brick my phone because of a lack of space. This question wasn't based on a complaint with the phone or rom, more of a request to hear something along the lines of "it's normal" to ease my mind.

Damn...I have CM6 Nightly 8-25 and I have 125 MB free of internal storage..Only have 10 apps installed. CM6 is the ****

[Q] Honeycomb Root, GApps, Market, etc

Alright, so I'm 100% brand new to the Nook. Infact, I don't even have it yet, but I'm buying it tomorrow (3/3)
If I'm going to use honeycomb on it, do I just simply pop in the SD card and it's ready to go?
Do I need to root it before hand or is it already rooted?
How do I get GApps and Market running?
I honestly looked around a bit but I'm terribly confused. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Also, I can't even seem to get the IMG burned onto my microSD. Win32 Disk Imager keeps spitting back that the SD card doesn't have enough space, but it's an 8GB card with nothing on it, so it has plenty.

1) No, you don't have to root first - just pop in the uSD card and you are good to go.
2) To install Market and GApps you will have to install ADB on your primary machine first (which can be a PITA). There is all sorts of help around to do that. I downloaded a script (search for HoneyGapps.v2 here) that did the install for me in one step.
3) From what I understand the image is too large for Win32 Disk Imager. I used WinImage and it worked fine.
BTW - I am loving HC - I've adopted it completely. My major problem is that many apps are not showing up in the Market, even though they were installed and ran fine on my rooted 2.1 system. I think it is because the Market does not recognize the device name under HC 0.4.

How do I use WinImage to do that?
Sorry, but that program just confuses me, lol

First you use winImage and click disk then restore image. Make sure you have all files selted when looking for the file to restore. Are you going to install it to internal or on a USB card ?

Trying from SD card first unless it's too slow. If I want to install on internal, how do I backup my original Nook data?
Also, I figured out WinImage, I'm burning it now. I used another program, but that didn't do anything when I powered on the Nook. I shouldn't have to do -anything- before booting from the SD, right? The Nook is brand new, I popped in the SD card and it didn't work. We'll see what happens after WinImage burns it though

The SD version is kinda slow and if you look there is a Honeycomb EEMC V4 install that has the google apps and other goodies Installed. It has all you need already put in it. In the post you will find all the links and info needed to install. You just mount your nook like normal to your computer and copie the files from internal memory.
here is the Link use the version 2 dated 2-21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071

shadowswittness said:
The SD version is kinda slow and if you look there is a Honeycomb EEMC V4 install that has the google apps and other goodies Installed. It has all you need already put in it. In the post you will find all the links and info needed to install. You just mount your nook like normal to your computer and copie the files from internal memory.
here is the Link use the version 2 dated 2-21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071
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Haha, I had just started reading that a second ago actually. It lists a lot of problems. Are those problems present in the SD card version as well? Also, is Froyo more stable?

I have been running version 2 for a lil while and it runs smooth. I haven't had any real issues from it. I put it on my wife's nook also. It runs smooth and every app I have installed runs with no issues.

OK, I'm gonna try the script for GApps in a second. Where can I find the drivers for the Nook? I already have ADB installed, I've rooted 3 phones before this, so I got ADB usage down...
EDIT: Also, where can I find info on partitioning the SD card so I can still use it?

Honeycomb is built for tablets and sems more fluid. All are really development builds. We will all be waiting on the devs and google for the actual honeycomb

Which are you going to do the Sd or Internal ? If you load the version 2 internal it already has the Google apps included.

I haven't found a way to backup my original Nook data before installing it on internal. SD card works just fine, as long as I can find a way to partition it so I can still use it as an SD card. Either way, I still need the ADB drivers and the one thread I found so far has a broken link. Boo!

If you install it to internal you can then reformat the sd card and use it as normal.

OK, but then how do I back up the current internal memory and I still need a link to the ADB drivers in case I want to run off SD.

Use my USB mass storage utility (see dev). Make .tar files of internal data and system content.
To restore extract content back onto data and system.
Of course, if you get adb working, make dd images of partitions.. more conventionnal backup than above..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Alternatively, can't I just have someone send me their files?

Bump? Anyone?
EDIT: Also, how do I get ADB working if I do the internal HC?

gmap516 said:
Bump? Anyone?
EDIT: Also, how do I get ADB working if I do the internal HC?
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All your questions in this thread can be answered by doing a little work searching around... you shouldn't expect a personal tutor...
If you put a little of your own effort, you will learn much more than following someone's instructions.

Thanks man, that was helpful. I definitely didn't use the search tool before.

gmap516 said:
Thanks man, that was helpful. I definitely didn't use the search tool before.
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See? You're learning already then.

[Q] Old nook user / but now newbie again ..... info needed

I bought the original Nook Color back in Nov. 2010. I went through all the methods back in the day, when guys first started rooting the Nook and all the problems we had back then ... side loading apps ... adhoc issues ... B&N updates ect ... we got CWM recoveries and finally we got fully working froyo's and Gingerbread's. Then CM7's and the Phiredrop's.
I been through it all. I ended up giving my Nook to my son, and he loved it. I got into Android Development Cell (ROMS). I Now got my Nook back from my son. It is working, but I have forgotten a lot about how to mod it .... mainly the partition tables, and how the bootloader runs. Does it look to the eMMC first ? or the SD-Card ? Can we flash from both locations ?
Anyways ... He has it setup weird now. It has a dual boot menu, I can boot into CM7 or CM9, But it is acting up and some stuff doesn't work. He also says it can boot into Stock 1.4.2 somehow *shrug*
I have done some searching here on xda but it is a lot of OLD posts and dead links.
Could you guys help me out with a few questions ?
01) I would like to wipe EVERYTHING from eMMC abd SD-Card and start over. I know I can format the uSD and also format the eMMC, but Can I flash a SD with a CWM image and then install Stock 1.4.2 on the eMMC. Do I even need to install stock first ? What is the best method for this ?
02) Will I need to nooter my nook again at this point if I do that ?
03) Can I run CWM on the SD and run a nandroid backup to that same SD if it is a large SD-Card ? I thought I could since the bootloader looks at uSD first (but I guess it looks at the boot partition huh ? ) my son says NO you can not run CWM and have a nandroid backup on that same SD. Yes or No ?
Bottom line is this is what I’m trying to do……
01a) I could care less about stock B&N.
02a) I just want a Nook that will dual boot into CM7 and / or CM9 preferably from my 16 GIG SD-Card but it really doesn’t matter, as long as I can install app’s to the external SD-Card.
03a) I want a way to backup the entire CM7 or CM9 via CWM to my SD-Card.
NOTE: I have a (1) 16 GIG SD-Card (1) 4 GIG SD-Card and (1) 8 GIG SD-Card.
If you could help me out with any info at all on any of this, please do so. I am mostly Android literate and I have a working ADB on my win7. I just have forgotten exactly how the nook operates at the lowest level, and how the newer CM's are flashed now after a clean format
Thank you for your time and help to any of my questions.
Peace

Thibor69 said:
the partition tables, and how the bootloader runs. Does it look to the eMMC first ? or the SD-Card ? Can we flash from both locations ?
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Partition talbes and mount points
The Nook Color boots from uSD first... then eMMC if there is no bootable uSD in the card slot.
Thibor69 said:
I have done some searching here on xda but it is a lot of OLD posts and dead links.
Could you guys help me out with a few questions ?
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Browsing the developer forum would be very beneficial... as there are constantly new posts... so almost all of this is covered in recent posts.
Thibor69 said:
01) I would like to wipe EVERYTHING from eMMC abd SD-Card and start over. I know I can format the uSD and also format the eMMC, but Can I flash a SD with a CWM image and then install Stock 1.4.2 on the eMMC. Do I even need to install stock first ? What is the best method for this ?
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Create a new bootable CWM recovery uSD and place one of the files from here on it.
Boot into CWM and flash the file you downloaded.
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02) Will I need to nooter my nook again at this point if I do that ?
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Only if you want stock to be rooted... not necessary if are going to flash a different ROM to eMMC or don't care about stock root access. If you choose to root stock.... use this thread
Thibor69 said:
03) Can I run CWM on the SD and run a nandroid backup to that same SD if it is a large SD-Card ? I thought I could since the bootloader looks at uSD first (but I guess it looks at the boot partition huh ? ) my son says NO you can not run CWM and have a nandroid backup on that same SD. Yes or No ?
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Yes.... I do that frequently.. the thing is... the nandroid backup will be of the eMMC unless you use one of the modified CWM's designed for SD installs.
Additionally... if you are going to run that from a uSD with another ROM on it... you will certainly have to adjust the boot partition on the uSD to be large enough to hold the nandroid you are creating.
Thibor69 said:
Bottom line is this is what I’m trying to do……
01a) I could care less about stock B&N.
02a) I just want a Nook that will dual boot into CM7 and / or CM9 preferably from my 16 GIG SD-Card but it really doesn’t matter, as long as I can install app’s to the external SD-Card.
03a) I want a way to backup the entire CM7 or CM9 via CWM to my SD-Card.
NOTE: I have a (1) 16 GIG SD-Card (1) 4 GIG SD-Card and (1) 8 GIG SD-Card.
If you could help me out with any info at all on any of this, please do so. I am mostly Android literate and I have a working ADB on my win7. I just have forgotten exactly how the nook operates at the lowest level, and how the newer CM's are flashed now after a clean format
Thank you for your time and help to any of my questions.
Peace
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DizzyDen said:
Create a new bootable CWM recovery uSD and place one of the files from here on it.
Boot into CWM and flash the file you downloaded.
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So you are saying that I can do it in this order:
1) Format eMMC ( only boot partition right ? )
2) Format uSD ( resize boot partition to a larger size for backups )
3) Create bootable CWM uSB ( any particular one you recommend ? )
4) Put one of the stocks 1.4.x files on the uSB then flash it
5) Put CM7 or CM9 on uSB and flash it
Question: Do I need to flash stock 1.4.x even tho I dont want it ? or can I skip step #4 ?
Thanks

Thibor69 said:
So you are saying that I can do it in this order:
1) Format eMMC ( only boot partition right ? )
2) Format uSD ( resize boot partition to a larger size for backups )
3) Create bootable CWM uSB ( any particular one you recommend ? )
4) Put one of the stocks 1.4.x files on the uSB then flash it
5) Put CM7 or CM9 on uSB and flash it
Question: Do I need to flash stock 1.4.x even tho I dont want it ? or can I skip step #4 ?
Thanks
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Item 1) highly NOT recommended. There is no point to format /boot.
Item 2) if "uSD" means the external microSD card, then, no, you don't need to format it since it will be done in step 3 of your list.
Item 3) Get the CwMR version 3.2.0.1. And call it "flashable CwMR uSD", not uSB.
Item 4) If you don't want stock, leave it out as no point to touch it.
Item 5) After done step 3 above, put CM7 OR CM9 in there, the CwMR uSD, and flash.
Strongly suggestion: before doing anything. Be sure you know what you trying to do or at least, pls let us know what you try to accomplish. For example, do you try to run CM7 or CM9? Do you want to run it from the external uSD card or from eMMC? Instructions are different.

votinh said:
Item 1) highly NOT recommended. There is no point to format /boot.
Item 2) if "uSD" means the external microSD card, then, no, you don't need to format it since it will be done in step 3 of your list.
Item 3) Get the CwMR version 3.2.0.1. And call it "flashable CwMR uSD", not uSB.
Item 4) If you don't want stock, leave it out as no point to touch it.
Item 5) After done step 3 above, put CM7 OR CM9 in there, the CwMR uSD, and flash.
Strongly suggestion: before doing anything. Be sure you know what you trying to do or at least, pls let us know what you try to accomplish. For example, do you try to run CM7 or CM9? Do you want to run it from the external uSD card or from eMMC? Instructions are different.
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Hello -
Thank you for the update info. Glad I asked first. Thank you Dizzy for your help, you have been a big help to me in the past also. Votinh thank you for your reply. Looking back at what I wrote I see many mistakes in my process. Thanks for correcting them.
Now ... as to your question Votinh. What is it I am trying to do.
First off this is what I currently have. Nook is working, but not well and just a mess in general. Sometimes it locks up or just runs at a crawl. ( I have CPU oc'd to 1200 ) I have CM7 and CM9 but can't seem to boot into CM9 anymore at all. I also have CWM v3.2.0.1 installed on my external SD-Card with a nandroid backup.
I just want to erase it all and start over : )
I want my Nook to be able to Dual Boot into CM7 and CM9. I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card, BUT if that is not easy or possible then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external. I dont need stock.
If all else fails ... or just to complicated I could live with just CM9 (nightlies or stable) with all APPS installed to external SD. and forget about dual boot.
Again thank you .... and please ask me any more questions you might need to help clarify my goal.
Peace

Thibor69 said:
Hello -
Thank you for the update info. Glad I asked first. Thank you Dizzy for your help, you have been a big help to me in the past also. Votinh thank you for your reply. Looking back at what I wrote I see many mistakes in my process. Thanks for correcting them.
Now ... as to your question Votinh. What is it I am trying to do.
First off this is what I currently have. Nook is working, but not well and just a mess in general. Sometimes it locks up or just runs at a crawl. ( I have CPU oc'd to 1200 ) I have CM7 and CM9 but can't seem to boot into CM9 anymore at all. I also have CWM v3.2.0.1 installed on my external SD-Card with a nandroid backup.
I just want to erase it all and start over : )
I want my Nook to be able to Dual Boot into CM7 and CM9. I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card, BUT if that is not easy or possible then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external. I dont need stock.
If all else fails ... or just to complicated I could live with just CM9 (nightlies or stable) with all APPS installed to external SD. and forget about dual boot.
Again thank you .... and please ask me any more questions you might need to help clarify my goal.
Peace
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So far, everything you've asked are doable, in fact, a lot of members currently having the same system you describe.
Firstly, "I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card" is called "dual-boot, it is a true dual-boot.
Go thank "racks11479" for his tremendous work
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448186
Note: both CM7 AND CM9 are on the external uSD card.
Secondly, "then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external."; since your wish is granted , this is just an option for you. Yes, you can easily install CM7 in eMMC (aka internal memory) and booting CM9 off uSD as you want.
For references:
Boot CM7/CM9 off uSD, thank verygreen.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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Update from my last link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576879

Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again

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mateorod said:
Wait a minute. Alan Moore doesn't live in Scottsdale!
Whatever. Swamp Thing is awesome. You can live wherever you want
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Wow ... good call brother. Not many people know the face.
Peace

Thibor69 said:
Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
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Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
Mr72 has good instructions for getting 7.2 up and running on eMMC, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292
You'll want to use his directions to load the image found in mrg666's thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
Dalingrins would be redundant as it is already part of this build. You *will* want to run the V6 script as it is well worth it.
Once you've got that going well you should have read around enough to be able to load CM9 nightlies on an SD card. You *do* have a Sandisk card, right?

Thibor69 said:
Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
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In bold: sure, but what do you try to do? Format the internal so that you can install something else on it?
I currently have CM7.2-RC1 Kang running on eMMC, it is really good.
Booting off uSD is more like for experimental, play it for a while to see if we like it or not. For trying, I recommend using uSD.
I have not spent more time on CM9 since I don't see much of the benefit of it.
Also, MisRy covered pretty well there.

MISRy said:
Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
Mr72 has good instructions for getting 7.2 up and running on eMMC, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292
You'll want to use his directions to load the image found in mrg666's thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
Dalingrins would be redundant as it is already part of this build. You *will* want to run the V6 script as it is well worth it.
Once you've got that going well you should have read around enough to be able to load CM9 nightlies on an SD card. You *do* have a Sandisk card, right?
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Thanks for the info Misry. I have many sd cards and have used them all will good results. My Sandisk is only 4 gig ... so it was not going to be my first choice. I also have a Class 4 8 Gig Kinston I was thinking of using. Or a Class 10 16 Gig Patriot, which I know people dont like, but it seems to work fine in my phones ....?

Magus-
The difference in the SD card class as far as speed comes down to the size of the information we want to write. The lower classes aren't very fast with the large hunks of info, but excel with the tiny byte exchange used in the ROM. As the speed of your system will really be affected by the slow I/O rates of something like a class 10, compromise on size before class. It may be counter intuitive, but people have given up on cyanogen in general only because they had the wrong sdcard. This is especially true if you have a dual boot and are running the ROM off of the sdcard itself.
Look at the "strange results or how I learned to love cm" or something thread. Google that with xda and nook and you'll find it. That has all the info you'd want and way more.
Do another book with Eddie Campbell and we'll call it square. You know you want to.

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Well I was testing a homemade script and I believe I did in fact format eMMC and either scrambled the boot partition or deleted it also on emmc. No mater what I do I can not get eMMC to boot. I can boot cwm from SD-card, but nothing on eMMC.
Advice ?? please be as technical as needed. I do not have Linux right now, but I do have adb on win7 and 3 sd-cards
THanks

Well, let's see what we're working with...
$ su
# fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0
Post the output of the above. It'll show what partitions are left (if any) and then we can take it from there. This can be a hassle indeed, and it will require some research as I have avoided doing this myself. I am hoping your ROM partition is still intact, at least.
Anybody else who can help, please do. I may not be able to respond as often as I would like.

I was gonna suggest 8+1 to see if we can get back to square one.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor/RestoreToStock

He's gonna need a ROM partition for that to work.
For a long time, 8 failed boots would (as a last resort) result in a working Nook for just about every problem. But, as users are getting more experienced across the board, more advanced and dangerous stuff is being attempted.
When everything goes right, it can be pretty rewarding, but when it goes wrong...well, let's just say the solutions become a lot more advanced as well.
The output of the command will let us know which partitions are erased and if any are still intact. Considering the information we have so far, I am not hopeful. If the emmc was erased and formatted...well, we'll see.

Here's what has occoured:
over-wrote the following partitions with "0":
# 0p7 = /cache
# 0p1 = /boot
# 0p5 = /system
# 0p6 = /data
Then formatted 5-7 ext4. Flashing a ROM with a blank boot partition has been done on another device many times with no issues, for some odd reason this nook responded poorly and I believe the the boot.img never copied over to 0p1.
I am not sure what all he tried but I know he tried the flashable emmc fixer, which didnt' fix it. I am actually concerned that made it worse, but that's my opinion and I don't have my hands on the device. For what ever reason he couldn't get adb working with the device. I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919353
And since ADB wouldn't work, I wrote a script and created a flashable zip for him so it would perform the same operation, but it stopped saying bad zip. He tested it with 7zip and there were no errors, I checked my script and I see no errors in it and yes, I used a proper program for it as well, NotePad++. He's a bit frustrated and sending it to me. I am confident that if none of the things he tried didn't completely scramble the internal partitions that I can get it working. But if anyone has any idea as to why the script would fail, let me know.
Edit: And correct me if I am wrong, but it's the lack of a kernel which caused it to respond so badly. A similar thing happened on our phone but was due to powering off with a blank boot partition (not our noob moment but someone else's), but being that it's a tegra 2 system we have Nvflash and all is easily rectified. My theory is that there's something, most likely memory, which is loaded by the kernel and is required for a recovery to run.
He tried the 8 failed boot and it did bring up something which ended with an error about no boot partition, I'll try to get the picture he showed me later, I need to run off to work right now.

... Nevermind

Волк said:
For what ever reason he couldn't get adb working with the device.
And since ADB wouldn't work...
But if anyone has any idea as to why the script would fail, let me know.
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First, why in heaven's name would you purposely want to write zeros on the boot partition?
Second, adb was not working because there was no kernel or ramdisk on the boot partition since you had him zero it out. Adb needs both.
If he was trying to flash your zip with CWM from a bootable SD card, then the zip needs to be properly signed before CWM will flash it. You can have CWM toggle off that check, but I doubt he did that. Hence the bad zip error.
Also if he has his CM7 SD card still working, he can repair the emmc partitions using the terminal emulator from CM7. All the adb type commands can be run from there.
The boot partition probably needs to be reformated to vfat before it can accept any files from a CWM restore.

new razri user few questions

hi
should be getting mine today
how is everybody coping with the low storage issue?
i have been reading up on directory bind and also rickywyatt method
i dont plan on unlocking the bootloader but i do plan on rooting

What low storage issue are you talking about?
While most of them are installed on the SD, I have a lot of installed applications (about a hundred) and I still have more than 3Gb available (internal storage).
An SDcard can be used for your pictures/videos/games, up 32Gb (at least).
If you want to root your phone and don't want to unlock your bootloader, then don't upgrade it.
However, depending on the installed firmware, it may be impossible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
Motorola has fixed the root exploit in the last update.

ciberbeb said:
What low storage issue are you talking about?
While most of them are installed on the SD, I have a lot of installed applications (about a hundred) and I still have more than 3Gb available (internal storage).
An SDcard can be used for your pictures/videos/games, up 32Gb (at least).
If you want to root your phone and don't want to unlock your bootloader, then don't upgrade it.
However, depending on the installed firmware, it may be impossible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
Motorola has fixed the root exploit in the last update.
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oh, that was something i wanna ask, so if i download Need for Speed MW the 2 gb will install on the SD?

I can't see that it goes to the sd card everything I have downloaded has gone onto the internal memory
App2sd doesn't work so I think the only two methods we can use are directory bind or the internal swap memory trick
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emu123 said:
I can't see that it goes to the sd card everything I have downloaded has gone onto the internal memory
App2sd doesn't work so I think the only two methods we can use are directory bind or the internal swap memory trick
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Did u tried using this app? i dont have a good connection so i cant try it by myself with games https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.

Deshabilitado said:
oh, that was something i wanna ask, so if i download Need for Speed MW the 2 gb will install on the SD?
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It depends on the application. Some apps put thier "big" files on the sdcard, some won't.
As emu123 said, you can use an app like Apps2sd to move them from the internal to the external storage.
Even if I install a lot of games, I never ran out of storage. That was the case with my old HTC Desire HD.
Big games can use up to 400Mb, I still have more than 3Gb, which means I can install, at least, 7 big games (but some of them will put files on the SDcard if present). It won't ever happen.
EDIT: I think Apps2sd doesn't work with Android 4.x. Not sure, but I think that the system manages where to install apps when internal storage is full.

I already suggested the ability to move apps to the SD card on the motorola forums, Razr I discussions:
I even got an answer!
I'm a new user so I can't post links search it

Agustinb14 said:
I already suggested the ability to move apps to the SD card on the motorola forums, Razr I discussions:
I even got an answer!
I'm a new user so I can't post links search it
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I'm not sure the "gosh that's a good idea, we'll pass it on" really counts as an answer - almost as if no-one had ever thought of it before!

Does anyone know how to disable vibro on screen unlocking?

Hi, I set up a thread (in my signature) specifically for for those of us new to Motorola - I just got my first Moto phone 2 days ago too. You may find the thread helpful - I will update it with any info. that people need.
How do you mean low storage? Internally? 8GB (practically 5GB) is low to you? Compared with what? Most phones in the upper tier of mid-range have 8GB and many top-range phones start with 8GB...it seems perfectly normal to me. Either way, do you have an SD card? I've a 32GB for my music and it's now full...some phones load the SDs so slowly...but NOT thins phone, all of my music is found in seconds. :fingers-crossed: