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micro SDXC 64GB

I'm wondering if the SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB would work in the HTC magic?
If it works, what file system is to be used? exFat doesn't work right? So Will I have to, like use partition magic to force a 64gb fat32 partition?
I have no experience with android 2.1 or any version for that matter, still awaiting delivery of my first android phone. The HTC Magic (unbranded, naturally)

premier69 said:
I'm wondering if the SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB would work in the HTC magic?
If it works, what file system is to be used? exFat doesn't work right? So Will I have to, like use partition magic to force a 64gb fat32 partition?
I have no experience with android 2.1 or any version for that matter, still awaiting delivery of my first android phone. The HTC Magic (unbranded, naturally)
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My question... is who in the hell would want to put a $350+ card in a $200 cell phone.

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My question... is who in the hell would want to put a $350+ card in a $200 cell phone.
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Me obviously.
and the reason is so i can switch from using the card in my digital camera, my HTC shift and the android phone. and not to have to keep switching multiple cards.. really a lot of reasons.

premier69 said:
Me obviously.
and the reason is so i can switch from using the card in my digital camera, my HTC shift and the android phone. and not to have to keep switching multiple cards.. really a lot of reasons.
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Well it sounds like someone here has money to burn.
In theory it should work... however I haven't heard of anyone using one before so I cannot say for certain. Give it a try and let us know either way.

Do Not bother getting it. A friend of mine working for FCC center. I snagged one to try out. Man it does not work with any format. Seems like this is hardware of the phone that can not handle it. Friend got technician to look at it, they are all confused why not.
All newer phone from Nexus One, will all takes in the card and read and writes it. But just slow.
Plus $350 is a rip off. The MSRP price for a 64GB SDXC is on $210 to authorized premier resellers.

narutofma said:
Do Not bother getting it. A friend of mine working for FCC center. I snagged one to try out. Man it does not work with any format. Seems like this is hardware of the phone that can not handle it. Friend got technician to look at it, they are all confused why not.
All newer phone from Nexus One, will all takes in the card and read and writes it. But just slow.
Plus $350 is a rip off. The MSRP price for a 64GB SDXC is on $210 to authorized premier resellers.
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Thanks, of what I understand from your message.

$210 for MSRP? I told him it cost $110. He must be day dreaming aging while I was lecturing him. Anyway it is best to wait for compatibility check from phone manufacturing for best hardware compatibility.
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narutofma said:
All newer phone from Nexus One, will all takes in the card and read and writes it. But just slow.
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so wait, sdxc actually works with android on newer phones like the nexus one?

INeedYourHelp said:
so wait, sdxc actually works with android on newer phones like the nexus one?
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A few of the phone specs I've seen has said up to 32gb but from my experience they're pretty unreliable at updating those figures as newer and bigger cards get released, that's why I started this thread asking for confirmation.
I'm going to sell off my HTC MAGIC vodafone branded and buy , either samsung galaxy 9000 or the new HTC Desire HD (european EVO4G). I just can't decide yet.

Not all new phones are ready for sdxc memory cards. They are both hardware and software prerequisite.
I would do some research on what phone u want to get. But at same time galaxy s sux, sdxc. Do not work with the card.
Warning spoiler : galaxy s pro will be compatible with sdxc. The phone will only be exclusive in Korea.
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ekoandrew said:
Not all new phones are ready for sdxc memory cards. They are both hardware and software prerequisite.
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What he said. You can't just pop an SDXC card on an SDHC-compatible device. It's like saying you're wearing size 14 shoes because your size 11 foot fits inside those shoes.

It wont work because (AFAIK) Android doesnt contain drivers for SDXC. If you insert a SDXC card into your Android device, it will problably just treat it as a SDHC card.

premier69 said:
I'm wondering if the SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB would work in the HTC magic?
If it works, what file system is to be used? exFat doesn't work right? So Will I have to, like use partition magic to force a 64gb fat32 partition?
I have no experience with android 2.1 or any version for that matter, still awaiting delivery of my first android phone. The HTC Magic (unbranded, naturally)
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That's a regular SD c ard, not a micro format, there are no known 64gb micro SDXC cards in existence. Also a 32gb, regular SDHC card is still 65$ US - and that's class 4, I can't begin to imagine how much a 64gb SDXC is going to cost.
Also how reliable will it be, there's limits to this stuff when managing the size of flash chips.

Now it exist
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/kingmax-flaunts-worlds-first-64gb-microsd-card/

I'm pretty sure it will work - mine works in my SGSI, SGSII, Sensation, and Transformer.
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html

Now that the cards are proven to exist
And ignoring the question of cost, which is not a technical concern
There are a few objective questions that might merit answers, such as:
1-Are the micro-SDHC and micro-SDXC physical formats, the card sizes and contacts, the same or not? Web posts say that they are and are not, apparently half of those posts are in error and it seems that if the sdxc cards are working in sdhc phones--they are?
2-Is a specific file system driver, in the phone's OS distribution, needed? If so, what?
3-Is a specific file system format of the sdxc card itself required? If so, what? (Presumably requiring a format on a computer that provides for that option if the phone doesn't.)
And then of course, a list of phones actually known and confirmed to work with the precious beasts.
Personally, yes, I think 64GB on the removeable card is ridiculous. But then again, it will cost less than an iPod Classic and it will let me take an extensive music collection "everywhere". Which my own 32GB card won't right now.
There's a reason the iPhone4S has a 64GB memory option now. For some of us, the extra memory will be gladly put to good and economical use. If our phones support it.

At present no phone fully supports microsdxc, even if it reads the card, you wont get the full size or speed from a phone, even the fastest phone on the market cannot take full advantage of the speed of present card, and most phones accepts microsdhc at class 2-10, but you only get low transfer rate, I have the new 16GB uhs1 microsdhc from both toshiba (class 10) and sandisk (class 6), both have verys low speed just like that of class 2-4 when used in mobile phones, so uhs 1 microsdhc is out of the question in mobile phone.
I also seen available the sandisk 64GB microsdxc available in hong kong, not really expensive when compared to the USA, it's approximate USD150, will get one next month to try out.

That's way better than the US prices. Please DO let us know how it works out.
Personally, I don't care about not having full xc speed, etc., I'd be happy just to double the storage capacity. Sandisk US has no interest in the matter, all they know is that Moto "only supports" 32GB. Which they really don't understand means only that no one has tested 64GB sdxc in the phone, so no one has anything to say about it.

Rred said:
That's way better than the US prices. Please DO let us know how it works out.
Personally, I don't care about not having full xc speed, etc., I'd be happy just to double the storage capacity. Sandisk US has no interest in the matter, all they know is that Moto "only supports" 32GB. Which they really don't understand means only that no one has tested 64GB sdxc in the phone, so no one has anything to say about it.
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the guy in post 15 has tried it on the samsung.

hi kms108, I see you own an Xperia Ray. Did you try the 64gb sd in the Ray? Can you share with us if it works or not? While Googling I only find people speculating that since it works on the Play, it should work on the Ray too, but I hope you can confirm this for real..

Partition Internal SD

I don't understand why the SD card was partitioned this way. On my SGS it had 2GB for app/system and ~13GB usable.
But the Raider has 8.83GB usable 3.42GB internal which equals to 12.25GB what about the other 4GB.
With 16GB i would expect at least 14GB of usable storage weather they be system or for music/videos.
The way hTC partitioned the SD card is very weird is there any way to re-partition so we get more usable storage then 8.83GB?
Advertising 16GB and only getting 8.83 usable seems like a huge lie in my opinion.

I don't understand their reasoning either lol. I have been wondering why it is like this too
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That's different. The Vivid has 8.83GB of phone storage and 3.7GB internal storage. Making a total of 12.53GB out of 16. With the Android OS and the Sense UI, 3.46GB is being used to support them. I think HTC did it that way since they didn't include an SD card with it. Especially since the internal storage acts as an SD card, cause that is where apps go when you move them to SD. Also could be that they wanted you to maximize available space on your SD card for music, pictures, and videos.
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on the HTC site for the velocity it says
"Available storage: up to 13 GB"
on the HTC site forthe Vivid it says
"16 GB eMMC"
So it seems a little missleading, but it doesnt technically say that 16GB would be available.
There may be a way to flash a new partition layout via CWM, no doubt it would be fraught with danger.

davidcampbell said:
on the HTC site for the velocity it says
"Available storage: up to 13 GB"
on the HTC site forthe Vivid it says
"16 GB eMMC"
So it seems a little missleading, but it doesnt technically say that 16GB would be available.
There may be a way to flash a new partition layout via CWM, no doubt it would be fraught with danger.
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All spec listings for the Velocity show 16GB storage with 13GB user available, The Vivid listings only show 16GB and doesn't show how much is available to the user. I don't know why they show user available for the Velocity and not the Vivid. Here are more differences between the Velocity and Vivid. Base OS for Velocity is Android 2.3.7, Vivid has 2.3.4. Sense version for Velocity is 3.5, Vivid has 3.0.
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Still seems like a lie to me, it say 16GB then i would think i would have that for storage. By doing it this way you get very little for storage, really get half of what was advertised.
Sure part of it was for apps but the way Samsung partitioned was nice and made sense this however is limiting the user, I may not have a lot of apps so space is just sitting there and cannot be used. 8GB is easy to fill having 13GB is still not enough but that's what the micro SD card is for but still better then 8GB which is extremely low for a device.
On the SGS any large app was installed on user usable storage, which gave the user control to delete it if needed. I have a few games that i had installed that downloaded 500MB for which i cannot delete because its not on user usable storage.

I can't think of a single electronic device that has an OS that doesn't advertise the size of the full HDD. When you buy a PC you expect a portion of the HDD will be used for Windows, when you buy a phone you should expect the same IMO. It would be different if there was internal storage for the OS and you were talking about the external SD. In any case, swing by Newegg and pick up an SD for cheap and it won't be an issue.
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hehe your point is valid, I would just rather not have ~4GB partitioned just for OS 2GB is enough. If an app needs room it can install on the user usable partition (Phone Storage).
Actually i have a 32GB card in the phone and not running out of space per-say. But i have a 2 hour commute everyday and lots of music and Shows that i watch.
Its not a deal breaker just seems a little weird coming from SGS which kept it very simple resulting in more usable storage for music and videos.

dusty2422 said:
I can't think of a single electronic device that has an OS that doesn't advertise the size of the full HDD. When you buy a PC you expect a portion of the HDD will be used for Windows, when you buy a phone you should expect the same IMO. It would be different if there was internal storage for the OS and you were talking about the external SD. In any case, swing by Newegg and pick up an SD for cheap and it won't be an issue.
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The operating system (linux) does report the sizes, but the front end gui (android) does not as it is not written that way.
It is anoying, but thankfully you have an expansion slot

64GB's on HD7!?

Is it possible? I recently bought an HD7 and am ready to upgrade my memory!
I read a thread about an HD2 running WP7 with a 64GB SDXC Class 6...
Just wondering if it's possible for our awesome phones
Any insight appreciated.
Below is pic from article I read couldn't locate the thread and I'm almost certain posting outside links is a frowned upon...
Cheers!

This would be great anyone else have any info on this

UPDATE: I've found two posts by dorianmuthig on this thread referring to the situation.. Still craving a definitive answer!
First of all - big thanks for the post - I'll actually be donating something to u if it works for me -> now, my main qestion is whether SDXCs are recognized - specifically 64GB sdxc. I'm planning on going all out and purchasing a 64GB SDxc MicroSD from Amazon (the Komputerbay 64GB Micro SDXC MicroSDXC Class 6). Theyre relatively new, definitely less than a year old - so I'm wondering whether that file format will cause performance or other issues against windows Phone 7.5 (mango). Thanks
No, SDXC cards are not supported. SDXC cards will simply not be recognized by the phone, the HTC SPL doesn't support them. You can only use microSD or microSDHC cards in the phones, and due to the fact that there are almost no microSDXC cards on the market as of yet, it can take quite a while for the first phones (not just Windows Phone 7 Series) to support them.
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I was wondering if 32GB is the biggest you can put into the phone. Maybe I can put in a 64GB Micro SD.
Thoughts?
Yes, 32GB is the largest capacity SD card you can put inside the device, because that's the limit of the SDHC standard. Larger cards are SDXC cards and those aren't supported by the phone. If you put an SDXC card in the phone one of two things will happen: Either the card is smart and pretends to be an SDHC card (see Kingmax cards) capping itself at 32GB (might show as corrupted at first) or it simply won't be recognized. Many Android phones do work with the recently released SanDisk® Mobile Ultra™ microSDXC™ memory cards (http://sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card) and odds are that HTC Windows Phones with a recent SPL bootloader do recognize them properly (even though they are UHS-I cards), but I don't know if they'll pass the performance test, nor are they very cheap. If you want to try it, be my guest.
Available card models are: SDSDQY-064G-U46A (Europe) , SDSDQY-064G-A11A (Americas & Pacific)
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Side-question - What 32GB MicroSD Card are you using? I might be stuck with 32 measly gigs! I really wanted to stick it to all the 64GB rockin' iphone users who laugh at WP7 [but, not my Galaxy Note though!]

Anyone can add the final word to this?
if it's possible, reliable without decreasing its performances, i'll look for sdxc soon!!

I think they take the card and reformat it fat32 so the phone can read 64g card.
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Nothing more about that??

As far as i know there is no support for sdxc that is 64 gb card type..... As for the lower gb's are sdhc which is suported.....
Here some info from wiki might help you understand a little better.....
Host devices that comply with newer versions of the specification provide backward compatibility and accept older SD cards, but older host devices do not recognize newer cards.
A newer card may offer greater capacity than the host device can handle.
A newer card may use a file system the host device cannot navigate.
Use of an SDIO card requires the host device be designed for the input/output functions the card provides.
SDXC
The Secure Digital Extended Capacity (SDXC) format supports cards up to 2 TB (2048 GB), compared to a limit of 32 GB for SDHC cards in the SD 2.0 specification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital [link to full sd card history]

RedHazy said:
Is it possible? I recently bought an HD7 and am ready to upgrade my memory!
I read a thread about an HD2 running WP7 with a 64GB SDXC Class 6...
Just wondering if it's possible for our awesome phones
Any insight appreciated.
Below is pic from article I read couldn't locate the thread and I'm almost certain posting outside links is a frowned upon...
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well there are 2 methods:
using official rom to upgrade the card, i believe only certain cards are supported: [Tutorial] Upgrade your HTC HD7 memory to 32 GB
The other method is using a custom rom called xmod , which claims u can use any type of sdcard : [Tutorial] How to recover SDcard using HD7
It is better if u go with option 2 which is a more viable method, but it requires installing a custom rom.

I'm pretty sure the HD7 can take a 64GB card - the HD2 uses the same software as the HD7, and it supports 64GB SDXC.
Here is the thread that the OP was probably referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414126

thanks for information gannnn

please post if anyone else have this kind information, it is helpful.

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thanks for information gannnn
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Just take a jump into the rabbit hole...
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64GB works for me!!! like a charm... on my HD2, I think HD7 definitely can use it
I'm using MIUI 2.3 btw.

What you talking about man. Come down from android. HTC HD2 isn't exactly same device with HTC HD7.
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Confirmed On Surround
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I can confirm on my surround 64GB SDXC Card is no problem, I am sure it would run on the HD7 runs faster then the stock card, I have past 40 GB of storage see thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923674

64GB SDXC works in the Tmobile US HD7 .
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If so....
Dr.8820 said:
64GB SDXC works in the Tmobile US HD7 .
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Please tell the Brand and model, can you show some screenshots, and one from wpbench to see storage speed?
64GB SDXC... that could be a nice thing to do, but some proof is the best way to show that it really works...

I've never used the benchmarks, but it's a SanDisk Class 10 and the number is SDSDQUI-064G-A11. I will post shots later, but I do know some HD7's won't accept 64GB, Tmo one works.
One thing to note: I bought the card from BestBuy, not eBay.
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The 64gb SD cards will work, but the device has to have a newer version bootloader 5.12, the 5.11 bootloader might work too!
Dr.8820 what bootloader version is your device on?

Bootloader version is 5.12.2250.0(135916).

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Bootloader version is 5.12.2250.0(135916).
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Thank you!
It's been confirmed for a while now that the 5.12 bootloader supports 64gb SDXC cards.
I'm curious to know if the 5.11 will support it too...although I don't think it does.
I really wish my 3.1 bootloader would support it, or if someone could figure out how to hack the 5.12 bootloader to install XSPL, custom roms and it would support the 64gb SDXC card....That would be awesome!

[Q] No SD Card - Problem?

So I'm currently driving an OG EVO 4G, and was REALLY excited to get a class 10 32GB SD card for Christmas last year. My rationale in asking for it had been that it would go with me to my next phone.
LOVE the ONE in so many ways, but kind of balk at the fact that it doesn't have an SD card that can be swapped out.
So what do you ONE owners think? Is it an issue?

Well it depends on your storage needs. I used to have a 32gb card in my DHD, but it only had 8 GB internal storage and I used it with app2sdext. When I got my one x last year I never worried about storage (32gb model).
I had most of my music on there and still had more than 10gb free.
If you really really need 64gb of movies with you you can still use usb otg and an sd reader or an external hdd/usb sticks.
That's my 2c
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Yeah, I guess I'm less concerned about it from a capacity perspective, and more from a backup, and maybe switching between ROMs angle... I'm just used to being able to pop a chip and pop another one in if I need to, y'know? Safety net and all that rot.

Does HTC One M8 support exFAT ?

Hello All,
I'm gng to purchase an HTC One M8 & I wanted to get this micro SD Card: SanDisk Extreme PRO 64GB
The only concern I have is whether the HTC One M8 will support exFAT format otherwise it's useless getting this micro sd card as I won't be able to get those high transfer speeds I essentially paid for.
Plz help. Cheers on advance !

I use the Samsung 64GB PRO. It came shipped with exFAT. Worth the extra space too. I've had it since April and filled up 25 GB in photos and videos alone.

Yes, it's the only reason why HTC advertised 128GB microSDSX support.