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Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!
not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI
I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!
Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)
Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.
Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.
zeo2k said:
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
orb3000 said:
That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks
I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!
I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.
I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...
HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u
They support non-SSL exchange now
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They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!
My fiancee is leaving for vacation in a few weeks and I wanted to get a gps tracking app in case her iphone should get lost or stolen. I would like one that works for android too so i could have one account for both our phones. I thought about google lattitude but i dont see that iphone gets that. Any ideas?
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My fiancee is leaving for vacation in a few weeks and I wanted to get a gps tracking app in case her iphone should get lost or stolen. I would like one that works for android too so i could have one account for both our phones. I thought about google lattitude but i dont see that iphone gets that. Any ideas?
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The only one that I know of for the iPhone that is a sure thing is mobileMe. $99 though, but it's for the year, plus it'll back up just about everything on the phone too, so if anything does happen to it, it'll be backed up.
As far as android, I was using lookout, it's free in the market. Simple web interface, and it too will back up a bunch of your info, as well as find your phone.
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The only one that I know of for the iPhone that is a sure thing is mobileMe. $99 though, but it's for the year, plus it'll back up just about everything on the phone too, so if anything does happen to it, it'll be backed up.
As far as android, I was using lookout, it's free in the market. Simple web interface, and it too will back up a bunch of your info, as well as find your phone.
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Ill check out mobileme for me, theres no way im paying $100 for the iphone program though. I just want something that you can pull up say, 'hey theres my phone' and be done.
While iOS4 finally allows location to run in the backgroud, I think it only allows pre-running location to run. Meaning the program would have to be started by her any time her phone resets, constantly be tracking the phone, and would wear out the battery super fast. I could be wrong on this, but I have never personally come across an app store program that could do this.
If your wifes phone is jailbroken, there are a few apps that do this in a much better way. Ilocalis is supposed to be one but I never got around to trying any of them when I had my iPhone. Hope this helps!
Suggest you to try Fameelee - Family Locator app. It works in background, highly accurate and drain 3% of the battery life only.
Give it a try and you will be addicted to it.
Fameelee said:
Suggest you to try Fameelee - Family Locator app. It works in background, highly accurate and drain 3% of the battery life only.
Give it a try and you will be addicted to it.
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Sorry but i couldn't find any app for iOS. This seems to be another nice app
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I found some apps
Labour Sync: This GPS tracker app eliminates the need for paper timesheets with automatic reports that can be customized and filtered by employee, job and time frame. You can see exactly how much time is being spent on a particular project.
+ Android
+ AppStore
+Apk file
Hubstaff: Time tracking and GPS verification
+ Android
+ AppStore
+ Apk file
Hope it will help.
Hopefully this isn't too far off topic. Does anyone know of a good way that my wife and I can share lists between our android and webos phones? I highly prefer both with an app, as opposed to a web version of something. I know you can share lists on remember the milk, but the mobile version of that kinda sucks, and anything other way of maintaining the list is a ridiculous $25 a year.
I would love it if one of us could add milk and shampoo to a list from anywhere, and then be able to update/check that list when we happen to be at a store.
Edit For Clarity: If an app worked the way I'm describing I would be willing to plunk down ~$2 for both phones for the one time app free, it's just that a yearly fee would be a bit much for the stupid lazy thing I want it for
Nvm read post wrong
I hadn't looked at evernote, and it's so close to what I need, but it looks like the one thing I need most, both editing the same list, requires premium access, which is $45 a year. Ouch!
Thanks though.
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I hadn't looked at evernote, and it's so close to what I need, but it looks like the one thing I need most, both editing the same list, requires premium access, which is $45 a year. Ouch!
Thanks though.
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If you don't care about a webos app, OurGroceries looks good
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If you don't care about a webos app, OurGroceries looks good
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They seem to have no mobile web access at all, which is less than ideal.
HEROEVO said:
If you don't care about a webos app, OurGroceries looks good
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My wife and I use Our Groceries. It works well. Not sure if there is a webOs version or not though.
Crazymike
Is there a free office app that anyone has gotten to work on the g tablet yet that will allow you to open and edit MS office docs?
Documents to Go. I used 2.0 from the apk but 3.0 installed fine after I got market working.
That's not free to edit docs, though.
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Docs
A decent set of applications for editing documents is what we really need. It is probably the most important thing to me. Until there is a application that rivals iwork on the ipad it will always have a one up with people that need the productivity applications.
Google docs is working OK, and it is free, but still not great.
doesn't quickoffice work on the gtab? I believe it was in the tntlite/gapps apk. might want to give that one a try. I was hoping it did, but have not downloaded or installed it yet.
IIRC it's still only a viewer. You can buy QuickOffice or a comparable app for $10-$15 on the Market. But they are designed for phones and do not take advantage of screen real estate (e.g. no toolbars, etc.).
Not sure if it works on the G Tablet since I did not get mine yet to mess around with it yet but I know Google Docs is just a free website and you can edit all types of office program documents. May just have to maybe use the browser and go to docs.google.com
Take a look at 'goodintentions' site. He has a link to Quick Office HD which is MS Office compatible.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/download.htm
Quickoffice HD is very good if you are running one of the Honeycomb varients. Otherwise the standard Quickoffice Pro is pretty good as well. No, they are not free, but you get what you pay for...
BTW - you have to purchase "Pages, "Numbers," and "Keynote" seperately on the iPad to the tune of $10 each. With that in mind Quickoffice is a bargain.
Honestly, I've found that the free Olive Office Premium works better for some uses than even some of the non-free office apps. I've used it on my G Tab with Thumb Keyboard, and it's pretty decent. Like I said, sometimes I use it even over the office suites I purchased, namely Quick Office and Documents to Go.
It's simply stupid that there is no port of Open Office to Android. There's no reason for it as far as I can tell.
Thanks for the tip, scyld. I still prefer QuickOffice, but this looks as good as it gets for free.
By the way- it seems to work fine using the Adam keyboard found elswhere on this board.
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Quickoffice HD is very good if you are running one of the Honeycomb varients. Otherwise the standard Quickoffice Pro is pretty good as well. No, they are not free, but you get what you pay for...
BTW - you have to purchase "Pages, "Numbers," and "Keynote" seperately on the iPad to the tune of $10 each. With that in mind Quickoffice is a bargain.
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Actually, the quickoffice HD available on my site works wonderfully on the gtab froyo and ginger roms. I just used it to type out a very long letter to religious leaders.
Is it legal to distribute that (Quickoffice HD)? I just shelled out $20 for my copy (worth every penny).
The one I'm hosting is pulled from the NI adam tablet. It's a tablet oriented qoffice.
I'm trying out that QuickOffice HD from the site on the Flashback HC ROM and it force quits whenever I try to either open a file or browse for one.
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I'm trying out that QuickOffice HD from the site on the Flashback HC ROM and it force quits whenever I try to either open a file or browse for one.
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There are two varients of QuickOffice HD. The version NI Adam version is ok for all ROMs (I think), but the purchase version is dubbed HD Pro and is only usable on HoneyComb and is slightly different than the standard HD version. I'll try and post screenshots later.
Hi - I just purchased a HD7, have a Android phone (HD2) and Blackberry Bold, but wanted to know if there is anything working for wifi calling.
I know this does not have UMA, but wifi calling like Skype or Google Voice?
The marketplace in Windows 7 I don't like because I don't think I see a sort feature by like 'free' vs 'paid' , etc.
I don't see Skype, see some 3rd party Google Voice stuff with bad reviews and don't see Google Maps.
The TeleNav on the phone from T-mobile requires a monthly subscription which i don't want.
Anyone know apps/etc. that are out there that would suit what I'm looking for here.
Thanks
the best free app I've found for navigation is "xMaps". It's pretty clunky and seems to lack turn-by-turn navigation but at least it works as a basic map. There might be something better availble as far as paid apps go, but I never venture into the paid apps section becase I'm cheap
I hope the app selection gets better with time and that T-Mobile finally rolls out that damned NoDo update!
EDIT: Also, there is a way to sort the list between Free and Paid apps. When you've selected the category of apps you want and the list has been populated, swipe the screen to the left 3 times until you reach the "Free" section.
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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yiannisthegreek said:
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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Thanks..just downloaded it.
Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
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Thanks for that. I can live without some of the previous stuff but I need TomTom also I need a program like WMwifirouter for this OS. I've been using my TP2 connecting my laptop wirelessly to the Net when away for over a year now and it's a great little program. Anyone know a way with an HD7 to use it as a modem?
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Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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I hope your right. I don't plan on getting rid of mine but right now it's not getting used much.
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I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
Did you actually LOOK for Adobe Reader? Cause it's there in the marketplace and has been forever.
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
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I like your optimism but the facts are a bit more complex than that; the marketplace is available only in 20 countries (roughly 10% of the total) and this is a very serious issue.
Take iGO 8 for instance, it was developed by the Hungarians, do you honestly believe they will commit resources to port their brilliant software to a platform not even available in their native country?
I want to have a state of the art OS but WP7 is so crippled that is no match for the competition.
I still hope for a better future for my HD7 but when? When?