what is different between Raider and Vivid - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

Htc vivid/holiday/raider,what are they special?

Holiday is HTC's code name for the Vivid/Raider. There is very little difference between the Vivid and the Raider. The Vivid is the AT&T version with US frequecies and some AT&T custom (bloat) software. The Raider is the same divice in other countries, with different custom apps depending on carrier. Mind you that the Raider has different frequencies depeding in which country it is from. So the South Korean Raider for example has different frequecies than the Canadian Raider. AT&T has a habit of renaming their devices compared to what the rest of the world uses.
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The Korean HTC Raider also is clocked at 1.5ghz while all other variants are underclocked to 1.2ghz to save on battery life.
I believe they're the same processor tho.

msgnyc said:
The Korean HTC Raider also is clocked at 1.5ghz while all other variants are underclocked to 1.2ghz to save on battery life.
I believe they're the same processor tho.
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does that mean Korean version of raider now has even more crappier battery life compare to the one we have at 1.2ghz?

93795311 said:
does that mean Korean version of raider now has even more crappier battery life compare to the one we have at 1.2ghz?
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If we do have the same processor, which it appears we do, then yes.
But how much worse is the question...
I know I'm looking forward to the 1st ROM that improves battery life and off-sets it a bit by also restoring our clock speed to 1.5

I got the (Aussie version) HTC Velocity 4G and on stock roms the battery life is dismal. It is running @ 1.5ghz and using 4G the battery life falls off quickly.
I just purchased a couple of 2000mah batteries which should give me about 10-15% better, life but only time will tell.
Really looking to switch to Faux's dual core kernel rom which runs at 1.73ghz however it is running an intelligent cpu clocking agent to protect from heat and clock down when not in use etc.
I am still in search of a decent ICS rom and leaning towards the De-Sensed v0.8 ROM when it is released soon. (Currently v0.7)
Cheers
Camo

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Incredible S Vs Sensation (Kind of)

I have had my Incredible S for a month now and am really impressed with it. Well apart from the camera problems that have been flagged up on this forum.
With the announcement of the Sensation yesterday it has left me contemplating selling my Incredible S and getting a Sensation Sim Free when it is released.
After weighing up the pros and cons of the both, the only major thing i can see the Sensation has over the Incredible S is the dual core processor which i don't think is really enough to buy it. Well unless apps start to be created with dual core in mind. will this happen?
Also spotted this today on Engaget:
Unfortunate news for anyone who saw HTC's Sense 3.0 UI and started dreaming about seeing it on their Desire HD, Incredible S or any other handset that doesn't ship with it preloaded. HTC has said that because of the hardware requirements of the fancier new Android skin, only the dual-core Sensation 4G and EVO 3D smartphones and the 1.5GHz Flyer tablet will be benefiting from it for now. The company's expected to introduce more tablets in the summer and its inevitable march forward with smartphones will continue, but Sense 3.0 -- and those delectable multifunctional lock screens -- will remain the exclusive privilege of its highest-end devices
(Due to new user restrictions, can't post a link)
Obviously once our phones have been rooted there could potentially be a port of Sense 3.0 but will it run smoothly on our single cores, or is it just HTC making people want to upgrade?
Thoughts people
Couple of points on Sense 3.0:
HTC later said on their twitter feed that they would be bringing "certain elements" of sense 3.0 to their older phones, so we may still see the lions share of the features, we may see nothing official.
Several guys are already working hard to port a ROM dump from the sensation t the DHD, given the similar hardware it should be an easy port once we get S-OFF
HTC said they will ring it to the Flyer, which only runs a 1.5GHz single core snapdragon, so our device should be able to handle it fine specs wise
I imagine the sensation will be pretty expensive off contract
The HTC flyer has the same chip as the Incredible S but I think it's slightly modified to run a faster speed. I hope they get the full HTC Sense 3.0 on the Incredible S.
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The Incredible and Flyer both use the MSM8255 right? The Flyer's is just clocked faster.
colgate13 said:
The Incredible and Flyer both use the MSM8255 right? The Flyer's is just clocked faster.
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It's hard to say, officially there isn't a 1.5GHz sdnapdragon. the Samsung Galaxy S Plus and SGS II Mini both use a MSM8255T which is basically the chip we have clocked at 1.4GHz, but it is safe to say it will be very similar to the one in our phones what ever it turns out to be.
Yes, it is confirmed that IS will get the 3.0 update (some elementz) I'm still considering whether to go for this (or Desire s - similiar) or lg 2x... its dual core but buggy

Droid Charge or LG Revolution??

well I was just about to order the Droid Charge and then I see the LG Revolution is releasing next week... so can anybody give a good idea of if the LG Revolution will be better than the droid charge? battery life? camera quality? speed, features, etc.?
what UI does the LG Revolution use?
Should know by next week with reviews. Top level:
Charge
Good: Battery life, display, camera, sd card not stuck behind battery
Bad: Sloooow RFS file system, low ram, no internal media storage, old chipset refrshed ONLY for LTE bridge (this is NOT a refresh like the new Snapdragon)
Revolution (knowns)
Good: 12gb media storage, Netflix, newer Snapdragon is faster for cpu operation, but slower than the Hummingbird (in Charge) for 3D.
Bad: Heavily Bing centric, sd card stuck behind battery
That is about it for now on the Rev, until we get real devices out in the wild.
added: For game emulators, the Revolution would be better for CPU power (PSX and N64). Update: Not so sure about this now, since seems both are about the same for CPU.
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...d-power-gsx540-vs-adreno-205-which-is-faster/
From what I've heard, the LG Revolution is essentially the same hardware-wise as the Thunderbolt, so it could very well have poor battery life like the Thunderbolt.
LG is using their own LTE radio and not the Qualcomm chip (Charge) or chips (Thunderbolt) the previous phones are on. So you may see different battery/reception characteristics from the TB's.
Real differences vs Charge: no SAMOLED+ (unfortunate), no RFS (fortunate, though Voodoo will fix that on the Charge), and weaker GPU (unfortunate).
what processor is better.. the Hummingbird or the Snapdragon? how about more power efficient.. thus better battery life for the same performance?
I would say they have about the same efficency
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what processor is better.. the Hummingbird or the Snapdragon? how about more power efficient.. thus better battery life for the same performance?
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Snapdragon wins some benches, but Hummingbird's better GPU gives it the edge in every situation you'll actually notice a difference -- that is, gaming.
Both are on a 45nm process so there won't be much efficiency difference.
The hummingbird processor is better in my opinion
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I have used just about everything and Hummingbird has alway given me great performance with even better battery life. Each time I try a Snapdragon device I never even use it for a full month. All 3 happen to be Htc devices so that may be why the battery life has been poor. The Revolution might be a good device but without google apps I will not be willing to give this one a try. If it happens to be priced at $200 it might sell will but at $250 I don't see a reason to get it over the Thunderbolt.
and no word on when the Bionic or any other 4g phones for Verizon are coming out? no dual core's yet huh?
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LG is using their own LTE radio and not the Qualcomm chip (Charge) or chips (Thunderbolt) the previous phones are on. So you may see different battery/reception characteristics from the TB's.
Real differences vs Charge: no SAMOLED+ (unfortunate), no RFS (fortunate, though Voodoo will fix that on the Charge), and weaker GPU (unfortunate).
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The charge uses Samsungs own LTE chip not Qualcomm the Samsung CMC220 is used in the charge
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chaoscentral said:
The charge uses Samsungs own LTE chip not Qualcomm the Samsung CMC220 is used in the charge
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Huh, I think you're right. Looks like Anandtech was wrong on this. The difference may be a big chunk of the improved battery life: I wonder if the Revolution (which is yet a third radio) will be better, worse, or in between.
Interesting also that the CDMA radio is different from the Fascinate's.
Avoid the Revolution. It doesn't have the most up to date android market on it (has one that was outdated months ago). It is missing some apps that other Androids have on their market. It takes forever to charge. Some apps have problems running on it. The default keyboard is garbage. I am saying this from experience since I currently have it, but returning it within the 2 week return period. The only good thing it has going for it is that it has the Netflix app preinstalled on it, but that doesn't save this android.
Is it me or all Verizon LTE phones mediocre? The Samsung Droid Charge is castrated compared to the equivalent AT&T Samsung Infuse with larger 4.5" screen and faster 1.2GHz CPU. The other two, HTC Thunderbolt and LG Revolution, hardware-wise are identically mediocre. Hoping for an Infuse equivalent or Galaxy S II to come to Verizon.
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Avoid the Revolution. It doesn't have the most up to date android market on it (has one that was outdated months ago). It is missing some apps that other Androids have on their market. It takes forever to charge. Some apps have problems running on it. The default keyboard is garbage. I am saying this from experience since I currently have it, but returning it within the 2 week return period. The only good thing it has going for it is that it has the Netflix app preinstalled on it, but that doesn't save this android.
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One advantage the Revolution has over the Charge is that it has an UNLOCKED bootloader. Now if xda actually decides to make a thread for this phone, I guarantee it will be at least 3x better than the Charge for 2 reasons:
1) More Custom ROM's than the Charge's 2) actual development that doesn't take forever... Revolution was rooted in 1 day (if only there was a recovery too )
This phone could be a serious contender if people actually took the phone with Bing (yikes but it is all good its been rooted) seriously
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One advantage the Revolution has over the Charge is that it has an UNLOCKED bootloader.
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That's not an advantage. It's parity.
The charge doesn't have a bootloader lol so how can an unlocked one be better then no bootloader
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One advantage the Revolution has over the Charge is that it has an UNLOCKED bootloader. Now if xda actually decides to make a thread for this phone, I guarantee it will be at least 3x better than the Charge for 2 reasons:
1) More Custom ROM's than the Charge's 2) actual development that doesn't take forever... Revolution was rooted in 1 day (if only there was a recovery too )
This phone could be a serious contender if people actually took the phone with Bing (yikes but it is all good its been rooted) seriously
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Last I checked, the bootloader on the Charge was unlocked. How else would we be able to flash custom kernels and have them work? Also, what good are custom ROMs when you'd have to use ADB to install them rather than being able to use recovery to flash them?
papi92 said:
The charge doesn't have a bootloader lol so how can an unlocked one be better then no bootloader
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All phones have bootloaders, as does any computer AFAIK. If it didn't, the power button wouldn't do anything
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All phones have bootloaders, as does any computer AFAIK. If it didn't, the power button wouldn't do anything
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This. Sometimes you don't see the bootloader, but if you have any kind of OS or anything at all, then you have a bootloader. And the Charge's is completely unlocked and never was locked.
smokedkill said:
Avoid the Revolution. It doesn't have the most up to date android market on it (has one that was outdated months ago). It is missing some apps that other Androids have on their market. It takes forever to charge. Some apps have problems running on it. The default keyboard is garbage. I am saying this from experience since I currently have it, but returning it within the 2 week return period. The only good thing it has going for it is that it has the Netflix app preinstalled on it, but that doesn't save this android.
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Charge time from 20% to full was under 2hrs for me. Market is up to date. Mine has all the apps, and what is not installed can be downloaded in seconds. Default keyboard was nice, but I use swype, which comes preloaded on the phone. I have not had any app have issues running.
I currently have the phone and love it. Rooted and waiting for a recovery mod...

HTC Velocity

As far as I can tell, the new Telstra HTC Velocity is a Holiday/Vivid/Raider which has to be the most complciated mess off device renames I've seen in a while.
I have the option comming up at my work to go for 1 of three phones.
1. HTC Velocity on Telstra(holiday/vivid/raider)
2. Galaxy Nexus on Telstra
3. Galaxy S II (first version, on telstra)
SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
The Velocity has the fastest cpu (telstra version is 1.5Ghtz) and is the only one with LTE, however I'm not the biggest fan of Sense UI and I don't live or work in an LTE zone yet, wont be getting an LTE upgrade here for another 6 months. and the nexus appears to have a higher resolution screen.
Anyway, I'm incomming from a HTC HD2, which is awesome for flashing and such but mine is getting old and overheating so I will be glad to move on, does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
Hey David,
Im currently using the SGS2 and LOVE it, but i do live in a 4G zone, i took home the demo today, and am doing some research on flashing as i am a bit of a nerd/freak when it comes to these things, and use alot of apps that require Root, so without that, its a no go for me... but the speed is PHENOMENAL! amazing, and to be quite honest, even on standard 3G/NextG gets far better coverage and 3G speeds than my galaxy, 10mb/s on the Velocity - on 3G and only 3MB/s on the Galaxy s2... I am cm's away from buying it
Hope this helps and if anyone has any more news, or if you can use Vivid/Raider ROMS on the velocity, as it has the same op sys... and sence... let me know!!!
cheers
So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
Got my HTC Velocity 4G today.
Managed to get boot loader unlocked via HTCDev but device is still S-On
Will try rooting and will update you guys
Yea iirc the HTCDev tool don't give you S-off, it just allows you to flash a new rom.
If you want to flash a new radio you will need S-off.
Keep us updated how you go flashing a new rom, ty.
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Ive had my HTC Vivid on ATT for about a month. Finally decided to go android after 5 years of iPhone use. Anyways, From what I can tell, like you said, the vivid and the velocity are more or less the same phone, just on different carriers. The phone is a solid handset, the battery life is average, its fast and even though I dont live in an area with LTE service, it still rocks on on HSPA+. Great phone, love mine, highly recommend it. As for not liking the Sense UI, if you arent concerned about your warranty, you can always root it and load a custom ROM onto it.
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
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I wouldnt say it is 'much' better, but it is better, in terms of speed, yes, but in terms of spec... no... the 1.5ghz is supposedly inferior to the 1.2, and 1.4 dual cores seen in the s2, and new galaxy tablets. However, i am fond of the speed and will be upgrading to an LTE device, and if we can crack the bootloader in these HTC's i will more than likely be upgrading to one
cheers
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davidcampbell said:
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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does the weight go up much with the ext battery??? i am so used to my galaxy s2, (116grams) im scared of the extra weight, i used the Desire HD for a while back in the day.. hated the extra weight... thoughts???
if you hate weight, avoid the extra battery, I prefer my phone to be weighty
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SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
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I work for an online mobile store, and have used both the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for an extended period of time. I also bought the HTC Velocity 4G yesterday.
The HTC Velocity 4G is currently the best device out in Australia, if speed is important to you! Not only does the device have 4G, though it also has dual band HSPA+, which makes it faster than most devices on the Next G network. I uploaded a video to YouTube yesterday, showing how much faster the HTC Velocity 4G runs on the Next G network, when compared to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
You can search YouTube for 'HTC Velocity 4G dual band HSPA+ test' if you want to watch the video, I am unable to post links, as I am a new user.
There are however three things that disappoint me about the device:
1. The device is a bit heavier than the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Nexus
2. The device came with Android 2.3.7, rather than Android 4.0 (Should be released in a month)
3. HTC Sense
The Galaxy Nexus is a great device, it is light, thin and stylish. It also obviously has Ice Cream Sandwich, gets updated directly from Google (depending on where you get the device from), and doesn't have crap like HTC Sense on top of Android. The device however has a darker screen than most devices (not necessarily a bad thing), and the camera is pretty ****ty, though in all fairness, I was comparing it to the camera on the iPhone 4S, which makes all other mobile cameras look bad.
The Samsung Galaxy S II is a great device if you don't want a device as big as the Galaxy Nexus and don't want to spend as much. I also don't mind the software that Samsung puts on top of Android, it is a lot better than HTC Sense.
davidcampbell said:
does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
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This is the reason why I logged onto XDA Developers today, I am wanting to ditch the HTC Sense / Telstra ROM for a good custom ROM, or if at all possible, a clean ICS ROM.
I would have went with the Galaxy Nexus (AOSP and no bloat HELLz YES,)if it wasn't the limited storage. 16GB is easy to fill and i need more if it was 32GB it would have been a done deal for me. Coming from the Galaxy S upgraded to the SII and within 2 days exchanged for the Raider.
SGS ans SGSII not much difference some but not much TouchWiz just plane sucks in my opinion lockscreen is horrible widgets limited. With my SGS i used ADW launcher just to avoid TouchWiz. Sense maybe a resource hog but it meets everything i was looking in a phone that the SII did not provide. with my first SGS i found myself hack and modding it to hell just so i can get it the way i want it to work and installing apps like widget locker etc. The Raider does not lag and i use this think like a mini computer everything is on with auto sync set to every hour. People say the battery is average i beg to differ i think its amazing battery for a 4.5" device. On very heavy days i get 12-14 hours on medium days it has last 2days and low even 3 days.
This is after i rooted and removed bloat, without bloat i would get max 12 hours on low usage. Still running stock, I like hacking/modding but to much trial and error and not enough time, with the Raider i do not need to mod it just to get basic functionality like SMS prompt or change tracks on lockscreen when phone is locked with pin/pass/pattern. It may seem small for others but that was a deal breaker for me. I need the phone locked but still have access to simple things like music and SMS from lockscreen and should not have to purchase apps like widget locker. Another big reason to jump ships was again weather in lockscreen, here up north weather can be very unpredictable so having that on the lockscreen is a great addition for me and it has saved me a few times already.
If i went SGSII first thing i would do is flash CM9 but then again its not really ready and has bugs.
I am getting this phone on Monday, so excited.
Very happy that it is getting ICS by end of Feb / Early March.
See here under the "Software Updates" Tab - http://bit.ly/x3nvyT
Excelllent!! A velocity thread!!
I just got mine yesterday! Love it. I came from an inspire with wcx Rom.. this is on par with how my inspire was... But I know this phone can be twice as good...
I have a few questions...
How Did you unlock boot loader? Did you select vi I'd from the list on htcdev.com?
If I unlock bootloader will I lose my Telstra warranty?
Can it be undone?
If I flash a new Rom can the phone be returned to stock easily enough?
if I flash a new Rom with wcx which is based on at.t... Will I lose my 1800 MHz LTE?
Sorry about all the novice questions...
One last thing.. when I had my inspire with sense 3.5 it seemed to have more features like the arrows in keyboard. And more items in the power menu... What's up with these disappearing?
I'm getting mine on monday
I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
If you want a keyboard with arrows, I use "hackers keyboard" off the market which I love, on my current android NAND htc HD2.
Thanks for the info, especially mark david, good stuff, and I didn't know about the dual-band HSDPA+ that certainly sounds lovely as I do not live in a 4G area (yet, they are upgrading jun/jul)
I would phone telstra to get the info direct from them RE: unlocking the bootloader. As for the rest, don't know yet sorry
Manage to Gain perm root and flash custom CWM recovery by following Step 2) of the superguide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Note that I need to extract the PH39IMG.zip and modify the "android-info.txt" with the below info and repackage it to get it work.
modelid: PH3912000cidnum: TELST001mainver: 2.27.841.6hbootpreupdate:12DelCache:1
I am not sure if I want to flash a custom ROM at this stage but if I do, I ll update you guys again
This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
Im getting my Velocity Tomorrow
Will crack bootloader tomorrow as soon as i finish work!
Talk soon!
naturalb0rnkiwi said:
This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
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why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
Pirateghost said:
why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
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Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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if you are running my rom, you are running the velocity kernel. its going to take more than just flashing that kernel though. unfortunately, i am not a kernel guru, or i would know what else it would take.
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I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
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Where did you order the accessories from? I cant find anything for this phone at the moment? Or did you search for "Vivid"

Can't decide...

I have a choice between a galaxy s2 skyrocket or a HTC vivid. I can't decide......please help!
Thank you all
AJ
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Both are great. IMO what made me switch to Vivid
ICS + Sense > GB (then ICS) + TW
Solid build > Plasticky build
Beats Audio > No beats
Both have same CPU
SR has better looking screen though and prolly better battery life. depends on what ur needs are
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Right now I'm on my fourth original Samsung galaxy s2 and att is letting me do an early upgrade. My battery lasts from 9am til 11pm with moderate use now. Also how much better is the vivid than the osgs2?
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asjdwf said:
Right now I'm on my fourth original Samsung galaxy s2 and att is letting me do an early upgrade. My battery lasts from 9am til 11pm with moderate use now. Also how much better is the vivid than the osgs2?
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On my stock Vivid, I've gone 38 hours with light to moderate use. The Vivid has a higher resolution screen I believe - qHD as opposed to 800x480 but its an S-LCD panel and not a Super Amoled. Personally, I love the screen on the Vivid. The build quality of the Vivid is also better.
All Android HTC devices use Sense...it might be something you have to get used to but its lightyears better than a Samsung or stock Android UI as far as I'm concerned. But to each their own.
The one thing I like about the Skyrocket is that it clocks its processor at 1.5GHz stock and HTC for whatever reason, probably battery life, decided to clock theirs at 1.2GHz - they are the same processor. But if you're unlocked and rooted, you can always flash an OC kernel to bump up the speed.
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slapdaddy said:
On my stock Vivid, I've gone 38 hours with light to moderate use. The Vivid has a higher resolution screen I believe - qHD as opposed to 800x480 but its an S-LCD panel and not a Super Amoled. Personally, I love the screen on the Vivid. The build quality of the Vivid is also better.
All Android HTC devices use Sense...it might be something you have to get used to but its lightyears better than a Samsung or stock Android UI as far as I'm concerned. But to each their own.
The one thing I like about the Skyrocket is that it clocks its processor at 1.5GHz stock and HTC for whatever reason, probably battery life, decided to clock theirs at 1.2GHz - they are the same processor. But if you're unlocked and rooted, you can always flash an OC kernel to bump up the speed.
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Honestly on using a vivid. I love it, the phone that is.
But there isn't too many roms for it and most of them have HTC sense
The Samsung galaxy s2 skyrocket has way better looks. I love the stock operator and everything. I am not a fan of sense. Hate it. But o well right lol.
Anyways if you're looking for just quality and don't plan on rooting is go with the vivid. The skyrocket just look at the appearence of the apps and stuff there isn't much difference just the development here on xda is more roms for the skyrocket
So its all just on how you feel about sense and Rom development. If u like sense and don't plan on rooting definitely go with vivid
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I don't plan on ever rooting. I'm just afraid of how much older it is than the skyrocket or the newer models.
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I don't plan on ever rooting. I'm just afraid of how much older it is than the skyrocket or the newer models.
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The Vivid and the Skyrocket were both released november 2011. The Skyrocket HD has not yet launched. I just bought a Vivid and my boyfriend has the skyrocket.
The resolution is better on the vivid, the screen is better on the sr. The SR battery is seriously better. Even considering the CPU clock speed difference, the htc feels smoother and more responsive. The SR doesn't have led notification light, which I can't live without but others don't seem to care either way.
Since you are planning to stay stock, I'd go to a store and play with both phones. Samsung's touchwhiz interface feels very different from htc's sense ui, so this might come down to personal preference. Again with personal preference but I think the stock apps from htc, the dialer, weather, stock info, contacts,etc are nicer.
Vivid all the way
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Skyrocket with HTC sense?
I just bought an skyrocket I 727 for use on Straight talk. I had an HTC Evo on Sprint and loved the Sense,especially the email format. Can I do that on my skyrocket? it's already been rooted. how would I go about it and what would the best build be in your opinion?
Anyone? Anyone?
ICS + Sense > GB (then ICS) + TW
Solid build > Plasticky build
Beats Audio > No beats
Both have same CPU
SR has better looking screen though and prolly better battery life. depends on what ur needs are
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Considering returning my One X is the vivid a viable alternative?

The lack of bootloader unlock along with the horrible multitasking has me with a major case of buyer's remorse. Before I return it though I want to have full knowledge of what to replace it with.
I've owned an Inspire and thought it was a terrific phone.
I see there's lots of development going on with the Vivid and that's great. I just don't want to make another mistake
Wait for the bootloader unlock, the HTC ONE X is 1000x better than the vivid.
Go with the Vivid, u will be happier I am coming from Inspire also...
Because if you didnt have one yet it may be awhile before AT&T gets more as they are held up by Customs...
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exynos5250x said:
Wait for the bootloader unlock, the HTC ONE X is 1000x better than the vivid.
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Please elaborate on what makes the One X so much better ... I don't want to start a flamewar, I'm genuinely interested ...
Thanks,
-doc
Sharpenologist said:
Please elaborate on what makes the One X so much better ... I don't want to start a flamewar, I'm genuinely interested ...
Thanks,
-doc
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The Vivid has a Snapdragon S3 dual core clocked at 1.2. The One X has a Snapdragon S4 dual core clocked at 1.5. S3 is made on the 40-45nm process and is based on the ARM Cortex A9 reference designs. The S4 is made on the new 28nm process and is based on ARM Cortex A15 reference designs. Both being "based" on the reference designs, tells you they were custom designed in house by Qualcomm. The major difference between the 2 chips is not in clockspeed, but in the manufacturing process used to fabricate the chips. The 28nm process means better battery life compared to the S3s.
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Still battery life is horrible because of LTE
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nielp96 said:
Still battery life is horrible because of LTE
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Still not as bad as if it didn't have the integrated radio for it on the chipset. Unlike Verizon devices that have a seperate radio and even horrible battery life
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nielp96 said:
Still battery life is horrible because of LTE
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My battery life on my One X is better than it was on my Vivid. The Vivid was much improved with a custom ROM but the One X stock is still better.
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if your gonna return the One X, then yeah, get the Vivid. but i would keep the One X if i were you
ZeroRilix said:
The Vivid has a Snapdragon S3 dual core clocked at 1.2.
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Thank you for the concise and emotionless answer!
Just what I wanted to know ...
-doc

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