Can current users comment on GPS locking speed and accuracy of the Vivd? I have Inspire 4G now. It's good for most parts, but sometimes during overcast and rainy days, it can be unreliable. Yesterday I came to NYC and walking between tall buildings made locking quite difficult. I'm not sure what kind of GPS chip the Vivid has. I know the galaxy sII has amazing GPS with the SifiII chip.
Also how is the audio quality through the headphone for everyone? I'm kind of an audiophile, so having good DAC like the Wolfson in the Captivate/Galaxy S I is important. Thx
GPS is much better (imho) faster & more accurate.
Sound via buds or Jambox is very good, using either the stock player or PlayerPro. But then again I'm old and ears are worn out a bit.
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GPS and Mapping Programs
I have done limited testing of the GPS with Google Maps, Backcounty Navigator and CoPilot 8 on the Vivid. I found the response good. With CoPilot, when I reached an intersection, the GPS showed me at that location. Google Maps and Backcountry Navigator both had me about 40-60 feet from my actual location in one test I did where I was standing still in an open location.
I found the GPS quick to start up. The applications had fixes in 15-20 seconds.
coming from the samsung galaxy horror, this gps works faster than my tom tom, its accurate from 30-50 ft, i would say this gps is one of the best i used on a phone.
DAC quality sound just as good to galaxy S, which i find was amazing for a phone when i first got it.
HTC did a fine job with it
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I've just sold my last car which had built-in PCM sat nav. I'd like to get sat nav for my new car but can't decide whether to get a GPS cradle for my XDA, a TomTom 3/5/700 or change the car's head unit for a power-screen DVD sat nav system.
My XDA IIi is relatively stable but it does crash periodically, can be slow to run stuff, sometimes freezes when I'm answering calls and basically seems to struggle with any sort of complex processing. I'm a bit woried that it may therefore be a bit crap at running 3d maps. Has anyone any experience of using these versus built in car systems or the TomTom units?
I've never updated the firmware etc so would also be interested if this improves reliability/speed etc.
Between the TomTom and SatNav head unit is the only real difference the screen size and convenience of not having an external box?
Thanks in advance for any help, Jonathan
I've just got Tom tom for my XdaIIi, with a bluetooth GPS reciver bought on E-bay. I've found it slightly unstable, however my friend with a IIs said it sorted itself out after a short time of using it. I recomend it, however I donot have experience of the other systems, so I would not be able to say which one is better. I personally like having everything in one place.
Hi.
I've used 4-5 GPS apps and I couldn't find option to set a sound (in my case beeping sound) when I gain vertical speed. I wanna use my tilt like a paragliding variometer cause i can't look at the phone and enjoy the view .
So is there app that have that option or could you make one plz.
You can search on youtube to see how variometer works.
A paragliding variometer can have up to three ways of letting you know your vertical speed. Audio sound, digital readout or analog clockface. Some varios are quite basic, like the simple audio-only vario with nothing but an Off/On switch.
Let's have a quick look at each type in turn.
The audio sound indication. If you are going up faster than a pre-set value, you hear a beep-beep tone which increases in pitch the stronger the lift is. Different models have different sounds. Some of them have a sink-alarm as well, warning you with another sound that you are sinking faster than some pre-set value.
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The TyTN II is missing the hardware required
arminf said:
I've used 4-5 GPS apps and I couldn't find option to set a sound (in my case beeping sound) when I gain vertical speed. I wanna use my tilt like a paragliding variometer
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Firstly welcome to XDA-DEV arminf! I know exactly what you're after but the HTC TyTN II (and consequently also the Tilt) isn't equipped with enough hardware to be able to do that. There's no Barometric capsule to sense changes in air pressure and no accelerometer so it's no can do using just the phone. Interestingly the Tomtom Navigator version that came with my TyTN II has a setting for which units pressure is to be displayed in (but it has no way of getting that info). Maybe with future products if you let HTC know you'd like this capability included, they may listen (oh, and don't forget to ask for complete driver support while you're at it ). The Touch Pro has an accelerometer but I don't know if it's capable of sensing acceleration in the right plane and whether it can be harnessed using software for this specific purpose.
Surely it should be doable. GPS gives your 3d position, so all software has to do is give compare the positions and times of two subsequent positions to work out the vertical speed.
It should be quite simple for someone who actually has a clue how to program for Windows Mobile
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Firstly welcome to XDA-DEV arminf! I know exactly what you're after but the HTC TyTN II (and consequently also the Tilt) isn't equipped with enough hardware to be able to do that. There's no Barometric capsule to sense changes in air pressure and no accelerometer so it's no can do using just the phone. Interestingly the Tomtom Navigator version that came with my TyTN II has a setting for which units pressure is to be displayed in (but it has no way of getting that info). Maybe with future products if you let HTC know you'd like this capability included, they may listen (oh, and don't forget to ask for complete driver support while you're at it ). The Touch Pro has an accelerometer but I don't know if it's capable of sensing acceleration in the right plane and whether it can be harnessed using software for this specific purpose.
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Wow you are really into variometers , and i know that Tilt doesn't have Barometric capsule, but I was trying to improvise with GPS. So i just need that beeping sound on some GPS app when I'm going up
dancj said:
Surely it should be doable. GPS gives your 3d position, so all software has to do is give compare the positions and times of two subsequent positions to work out the vertical speed.
It should be quite simple for someone who actually has a clue how to program for Windows Mobile
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Keep in ming though that the GPS inside the TILT uses a perfect sphere model for the planet (AFAIR). So it is possible that you will get a number of false posities/negatives on an extremely uneven terrain...
But yes, in principle it should work.
TyTN II hardware still not up to the task
Whats needed for the intended purpose is something that reacts instantaneously (or very close to it) and with imense accuracy to sense when it's rising or decending and at what rate. If the device is to slow or not accurate enough (and I believe relying solely on the TyTN IIs GPS would present these issues) then you'd end up flying right through the thermal and out the other side or through the ridge lift and into the rotor etc.
When I first bought my bicycle and was looking for a GPS device to go on it (before I bought my TyTN II) I was looking at Garmin pocket GPS units one of which had an aneroid capsule built in. I checked their website and this model is still being sold and this is what it says "For extra-precise climb and descent data, Edge 305 also incorporates a barometric altimeter to pinpoint changes in elevation." Having used the TyTN II's GPS with TomTom Navigator, Google Maps and Microsoft Live Mapping, and seen how it sometimes struggles with basic 2 D mapping, I definitely wouldn't trust it to be up to speed in what the OP wants - irrespective of what software is coupled up to it.
http://www.xperiadepot.com/freedom-keychain-gps-2000/10A95A2869.htm
There are no good description for this product. Does anyone know what they do?
I think this is an ordinary gps modul and description made by someone who does not know there is already a gps receiver built-in in X1.
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
Feezer said:
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
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Right but the description confuses me and it does sound exactly like what jabe said. But I would so buy this if it was key finder.
It just a bluetooth GPS module that fits on a key chain. You don't need it as the X1 already has a built in GPS chip. If you had a smartphone without a GPS chip, then there's be some benefit to it.
Or if you wanted to use GPS stuff on a laptop or something with BT etc.
Suppose your X1 is positioned in your car that way that the GPS reception is bad but you cannot relocate it. You can set it up to receive GPS signals from this external module. The module itself can be put anywhere like near a window or on the car's roof or so.
WTF? Did you even read? "The Freedom Keychain GPS 2000 is the world’s lightest and most compact pocket GPS receiver."
It's an external GPS receiver.
gps is receiving only!
you pick up a signal from several satellites and the device calc your position
this keythingy have gps and bluetooth
bluetooth have a range of 10m so even if it could transmit
it's cords to your phone then you would have to be pretty close to the lost keys
an external gps, my brother has one but of a different brand. his loads really quick and there's no need to wait on finding satellites. i'm not sure how this performs though, but for a keychain it seems promising for other phones without a built-in gps
I actually have one of those. Well, mine is a white Vodafone branded one, but it's the same chip, hardware, box, everything. It's actually still vaguely useful - it's DGPS capable (WAAS/EGNOS), which the X1's GPS chip is not (augmented accuracy within certain systems, WAAS for North America/Canada and out to sea within several hundred miles, EGNOS for Europe etc), and it has apparently far better reception - my X1i couldn't pick up a GPS signal to save its life inside a BA Boeing 777 flight. The bluetooth'd external reciever picked up and held a strong signal for the entire 3500 mile flight at 40k ft. And inside a plane fuselage, that's got to be borderline faraday cage.
Has anyone experience with the connection of the galaxy with a bluetooth GPS ? My car's windows are provided with a heat shield made of a metal film, i can only use a bluetooth GPS in my cars GPS windows.
I would use Sygic.
I'm now using a HTC Touch Pro WM6.5 and it works fine with a Bluetooth GPS
I contacted Samsung with my question but the only answer i got was that i had tot contact route 66 ???
The bluetooth GPS is for me the point to buy a galaxy or not<;
Don't buy any android phone, far as I know, bt gps not supported on android. May be some workarounds for specific programs.
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Bynar010 said:
Don't buy any android phone, far as I know, bt gps not supported on android. May be some workarounds for specific programs.
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Its a pity that android does not suport external gps.. I'd like to use that too. (I just got a Galaxy S).
I think the galaxy S has a socket for gps antenna on the back (under the cover).. so you can at least try to plug in one of those 5€ ebay gps 1.5ghz antennas to improve signal. Just put the magnetic box on the roof of your car.
As I've replied in the GPS Poll thread, I believe TrekBuddy supports external GPS just fine, so I wouldn't think it's Android limitation rather than a choice of the programmers of most apps - IMO they just don't bother supporting external GPS when there's not a single Android device that doesn't have internal...(I guess).
I guess you got a point when you say that all Android devices have a gps chip embedded. But I sill think it's an Android limitation not supporting an external gps.
On Symbian devices, you just have to say 'use bluetooth gps' in your application once you've paired it.
In WinMo the internal gps has a com port, so does the external when you hook it up. Again you tell the gps software which com port it has to use.
This kind of association does not exist inside Android. You can hook up a external GPS, but no program will access it. The OS itself doesn't have access to it.
BTW I looked this up, but I could not find what chip goes inside the SGS. Is it SirfStar III? Can anyone confirm?
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BTW I looked this up, but I could not find what chip goes inside the SGS. Is it SirfStar III? Can anyone confirm?
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It is a Broadcom BCM 4751 chip. Designed on a friday afternoon, after a long, well-wined lunch. Or so I heard. But I hear a lot of nonsensical rumours.
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It is a Broadcom BCM 4751 chip. Designed on a friday afternoon, after a long, well-wined lunch. Or so I heard. But I hear a lot of nonsensical rumours.
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Beowulf_pt did you manage to redirect data from external GPS?
I can read data with "bluetooh GPS" aplication but i did not find any redirect software.
I have a Hollux receiver that say's 10 satelites in use rather then 8 of the galaxy.
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Beowulf_pt did you manage to redirect data from external GPS?
I can read data with "bluetooh GPS" aplication but i did not find any redirect software.
I have a Hollux receiver that say's 10 satelites in use rather then 8 of the galaxy.
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You got me wrong. I'm not trying to use the BT GPS with the SGS as that is currently not possible in android. No native stack support nor navigation apps that use the units over the internal GPS. Only that little experimental app that reads NMEA data but has no real use. I hope Android gets this in 3.0 but I doubt it.
What I will try to do with the Samsung is to connect it to an external amplified GPS antenna (1.5 GHz) via the connector on the back of the samsung (net to the SIM card).
I have not recieved the antenna yet so I can't comment... but it should at least provide some better SNR results.
PS: I also have a Holux. It is quite nice, I use it a lot with my Nokia E72 and it works fine unlike the SGS
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I guess you got a point when you say that all Android devices have a gps chip embedded. But I sill think it's an Android limitation not supporting an external gps.
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I can understand their decision not to invest time in this as all android devices have an internal GPS... but time has proven that that is a bad idea as many units have really poor GPS. The Galaxy S is probably the worst of them all.
Without the ability to use an externa receiver you're pretty much screwed... no alternatives at all.
Guys,
Did any one try this app ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7703266#post7703266
jllb said:
Guys,
Did any one try this app ?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7703266#post7703266
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this is the site of the developer :
mobile-j.de/snipsnap/space/start
wonder if it's works well, pitty it doesn't support sygic and others ....
Guys a new application is on the market and for free ...
Check Bluetooth GPS Mouse
Work but in my case a bir of lag sometimes ..
jllb said:
Guys a new application is on the market and for free ...
Check Bluetooth GPS Mouse
Work but in my case a bir of lag sometimes ..
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The free version is a trial, it disconnects every 10 minutes or so. The full version is 1.99€.
I tried the free version with two of my bluetooth devices (Holux M1200 and ncs-navi 150), seems to work fine with both.
BTW, with JM7+voodoo fix combination, the internal GPS has been quite satisfactory so far (touching wood...)
Has anyone experience with this application yet ?
Bluetooth gps seems to have a bug. It seems to update it's location and after that sgs will give its location, what happens is that it starts switches between the two locations every second
If you turn gps location service off from android settings, the lag is gone.
However, an app named "gps provider" does not lag in the same way. I think bluetooth gps mouse app will have updatea, where this problem will be fixed.
Other than that the location is very precise using an Nokia LD-W3 bluetooth gps.
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i'm using the bluetooth gps mouse with sygic mobile maps and it works perfectly. I did'nt hope it was working that nice.
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The free version is a trial, it disconnects every 10 minutes or so. The full version is 1.99€.
I tried the free version with two of my bluetooth devices (Holux M1200 and ncs-navi 150), seems to work fine with both.
BTW, with JM7+voodoo fix combination, the internal GPS has been quite satisfactory so far (touching wood...)
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What you mean with "quite satisfactory"? Does the internal GPS get a fix without A-gps support? I mean without being online?
I use GPS Bluetooth mouse unlimited on a daily basis with Motonav , Sygic or Navigon.
Internal gps receiver AND Mobile networks( A-gps) are disabled on my sgs.
My external gps receiver got a sirfstarIII chipset . In a hot start I get a fix in less than 20 seconds. Otherwise 4 to 6 minutes in a cold start.
Once again no need for internal gps receiver and / or A-gps (celular network) for for a fast and stable satellite fix. Pure GPS navigation pleasure...
Offline GPS navigation = Freedom
And it rocks on my super-Amoled gs screen!!!
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
Search GPS aids in the market and install that. Works great.
Has anyone better experiences with car navigation
No problem with mine even get a good track if its in the glove box in the car .
But as has been said multiple posts on the subject worth reading if you have a problem GPS .
jje
TNY0 said:
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
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Buy an external GPS reciever. These can be picked up cheap enough on ebay/ Amazon etc See here for more info
I'm going to atrix due to crap gps on galaxy s
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TNY0 said:
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
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My experience is that the GPS IS that crappy, but if you use JPY, whilst I haven't tested it scientifically, it does seem as though it's usable enough.
Which firmware you using?
My advise though is to get an external receiver honestly (that's what I should do), because the only good feedback I've seen about the GPS NEVER includes tracks (and I have made tracks in the past, and they were rediculously horrific at some points compared to a forerunner).
Thanks for the answers. I think I'll try GPS Aids. Hopefully an external GPS won't be necessary...
I have exactly the same experiance as TNY0. GPS reacts very late and I am often on a different street. It makes SGS unusable for navigation in cities. I have tried various navigation software and all behaved in the same way, so it must be a hardware issue. I have also tried GPS Aids, it helps getting quicker fix, but does not solve inaccuracy of the GPS. I did complete wipe of the phone and installed Darkys v9.2 resurrection and than Darkys v9.3 beta3, but with no success, GPS remained crappy. :-(
If you want to mess with the GPS then their are a number of threads on here .
But i would go to rom kitchin and build new rom after reading modem and gps faqs if you are no better you can always change the modem .
Mine is excellent on JPY modem .
jje
Best results that I have seen were after installing these modified GPS daemon and settings files from Da_G on the Captivate forum. Difference was very noticeable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
Also, hardcore kernel helped as well.
Needed a rooted phone for either of these options.