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What do you do with a 1GB SD card?

I'm debating on whether to get a 1GB SD card or a smaller size. Besides the obvious such as watching movies and storing MP3s.
What eslse do you guys do with your 1GB SD card?

dumping maps on it for tomtom for instance

Install my games, MP3, movies to it.

I have favourite cab files, mp3, movies and audiobooks on mine.
Sooner or later you will fill the 1GB card.
You can never have enough memory!

gps gps gps
maps + maps + maps + maps
or something widh is not larger than 1gb

Re: world has to stand up
orez said:
this arab disease must me killed. all we have to stand up and finally take action against it. we welcome them in our countries .... this is very dangerous... stand up and take action
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Besides the fact that you're off topic, I think it's important to keep this forum free from political statements.

Loads of stuff goes on the card. Believe me if you buy smaller, you'll regret it. Go for the 1GB.

TomeRaider and Wikipedia, which takes up over 500 Kb. I love being able to carry the entire wikipedia with me wherever I go!

Even 1GB is tight.
You have to watch which pictures/which maps/which MP3s/which books you install.
It's no Free-For-All!
With 1GB, you have manage your memory carefully.
It's not like the old days!

Depending on what you're storing. I have my MP3s, movies, data files (pocket word, Excel, PDFs, pictures).
I'd agree xda-rocks -> you can never have enough memory.
If you can wait .. when the prices drop, pick up a 2GB.. or 1GB x2. Either way, i only had my 1GB card for 3 weeks, running out of space already

movies... songs... all sort of stuff...
storage and memory are never enuff

ebooks.... thousands of ebooks
and music, and pictures. i have the camera save all the pictures and video to the gig card

Well hell, IF I had a 1gig storage card, I would use it to store 3 days of backups, that would round to about 180mb. then use the rest for movies, music, and file sharing when I have my webserver running on my BA at the hot spot.
PS. if you get a card that large, invest in a usb card reader on your main computer. Makes life that much easier.
cheers

how do you organize it all? is there a program you use to organize the program installations?

i use it first to store 3 backup files (3 weeks' worth), a whole bunch of movies, games, data files, and programs. have to agree, you can't have enough memory =)
the backup files really are essential. and i usually make sure i have at least 2 of them on hand, in case the latest one is unstable.
somynex =)

I have a 1GB 66x SD card, with the i-mate ROM update and WMP10. I now sync to "Napster To Go" and have a great little media center.
Also store TomTom maps, all additional software is installed to the SDcard too.
As soon as I find a 2GB 66x card, i'll get one of those.

I have recently got a 2G card with my Navigon 5 Update
So I store normally a 250Mb Card of Germany, now for Holidays I stored a 1Gig card of Europe on it, removed some MP3s and of course have 3 or 4 Weeks of Weekly Fullbackups (sprite backup) on it.
So I have normally over 1Gig of MP3s on it , one map for navigon and some games and my backups...

Camera storage problem

I've got a HTC TyTN and a 6GB MicroSD memory card.
I was taking photos with the internal cam, I’ve set the camera to stores the photos on the MicroSD card. The card was filled with 2GB of music files. This is the problem I’ve experienced.
The camera indicates its possible to store 0 photo’s on the MicroSD card. When i delete a few music files, I had around 1700MB stored in use on the card. Now its possible to store more than 300 photos (in 3MPX format) on the card.
Is this a bug, because I had more than 4GB free space left. Could someone test this?

Believe it or not this might be a directory limitation. I had the same problem before with my O2 xda IIs. I put every single thing in the root directory.
I forget what the limit was, but as soon as I sorted my content and added them to subdirectories that I created - the problem was solved. Try that.

Thanks will test this out. I have some tomtom maps in de root, maybe thats the issue.

same problem here...4110MB free and only 27 pics to go!

I added a 700MB xvid movie on my storage card and now i've got 2000 pictures to go again. I think there is some kind of limitation. The card is filled for 2500MB now.. so there is enough room voor the photos

Will try that tonight

hmmm, i think i know what the problem is: if the camera reads the free disk space the old way (32bits) the maximum free space correctly reported is 2 or 4G depending on the signed / unsigned type (remember the old problem windows had with files > 2G ?).

Thats what i thought in the first place.. thats why i posted it on the forums ;p.. maybe somebody had a fix for this issue.

just did put 309MB of MP3 on it and i got now 7363 pics to take...so thanks very much

about micro sdhc card classes

hi guys,
i have searched forum, and realized that this is asked, but there is no clear results yet.
some people say get higher speed even with comparison to lower classes. and some people share their writing speed with adaptor, not on hd2.
i have sandisk 8gb class 2 sd card. and planning to replace with transcend 16 gb class 6. and if i will replace i will do this only for music tab. because its slowness drives me crazy.
anyway, what do you say guys? do you recommend me to buy new one? and can class 6 sd card owners share their opinions? but please, in terms of hd2, not adaptor speed.
thanks

I have a class 2, and to play graphic intensive games they have to be installed on the phone since the class 2 is too slow. I don't have a class 6, but I would think it would be more than enough for what the phone does.
My music was loading up slowly too till I put them in the correct file structure: Music/Artist/Album/XX.mp3
Also, I've noticed the phone performs better with .mp3 files rather than .wma or something else.

xeebot said:
I have a class 2, and to play graphic intensive games they have to be installed on the phone since the class 2 is too slow. I don't have a class 6, but I would think it would be more than enough for what the phone does.
My music was loading up slowly too till I put them in the correct file structure: Music/Artist/Album/XX.mp3
Also, I've noticed the phone performs better with .mp3 files rather than .wma or something else.
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are you saying to put all music files in that directory.

celestial123 said:
hi guys,
i have searched forum, and realized that this is asked, but there is no clear results yet.
some people say get higher speed even with comparison to lower classes. and some people share their writing speed with adaptor, not on hd2.
i have sandisk 8gb class 2 sd card. and planning to replace with transcend 16 gb class 6. and if i will replace i will do this only for music tab. because its slowness drives me crazy.
anyway, what do you say guys? do you recommend me to buy new one? and can class 6 sd card owners share their opinions? but please, in terms of hd2, not adaptor speed.
thanks
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have u tried formatting ur class 2 sd card to fat32 format with 16kb cluster ? Do a full format if u haven been using 16kb cluster. works for me. dont have lagging over at music tab.
im using 8gb class 2 card given stock.

craig540 said:
are you saying to put all music files in that directory.
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Create a folder on the SD card called Music Then a folder in there for the Artist (Madonna, Jay-Z etc.) and another folder in artist for their Albums and put the mp3 for that album in there. So you'll end up creating a bunch of folders for each artist and each of their albums.
So your file structure on your SD card would be: Music/Artist(name)/Album(name)/MP3
This sped up my music tab considerably. BTW, if you use Windows Media Player or DoubleTwist to sync music, they will do the same thing and put them in the file structure I mentioned. Make sure they are mp3 files, I had problems with wma.
Hope this speeds things up for you guy's, like it did for me.

pool7979 said:
have u tried formatting ur class 2 sd card to fat32 format with 16kb cluster ? Do a full format if u haven been using 16kb cluster. works for me. dont have lagging over at music tab.
im using 8gb class 2 card given stock.
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first of all i want to thank you for your replies guys.
@pool7979
what is 16 kb cluster and how can i find out whether i am using 16kb cluster or not. secondly what is full format?
thank you

For me, going from the stock 16gb class 2 that came with the phone to an 8gb class 6 made a huge difference. I have garmin mobile xt loading from the SD card, and program start up, address and POI search, map display and redraw is tremendously faster. Picture and album browsing is also much faster. I'm thinking about getting a 16gb class 10 to see if it'll make even more difference.

Take a look at this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664933
Your 8Gb may be formatted differently to how your 16gb was.

ok so basically, the higher the class, the faster the card ?.

celestial123 said:
first of all i want to thank you for your replies guys.
@pool7979
what is 16 kb cluster and how can i find out whether i am using 16kb cluster or not. secondly what is full format?
thank you
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hi sorry for late reply. what i did was insert sd card into pc. thrn right click format. from there i can set what cluster size it is . i think its something to do with.how data can be arranged/store in terms of size setting. i once read using 16kb seems to be the most optimum setting for winmo. seems to work for me.
to me class dun really matter for mobile phones as reading and writing on card are not that intensive. i would rather use a class 6 on a camera or act as usb thumbdrive instead with portable reader.

class speed
fallenmonk said:
ok so basically, the higher the class, the faster the card ?.
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Basically the class rating means the minimum speed of the card. Class 2 must have a minimum speed of 2Mb per second, class 4 -4Mb, class 6-6Mb class 10-10Mb.
With a good quality card, the actual speed can be many times this, so with some makes, you will see an advertised speed ofup to 32Mb per second for a class 6, but in normal use the maximum is usually just under 20Mb per second.
So you may think a faster card is better, but this is not always the case. Just because a card can read at 20Mb per second, this does not mean a mobile phone can transfer data to or from the card at this speed. These sort of read/write speeds are designed for high end digital cameras.
A mobile phone does not need speeds this high, even to watch HD video. So anything above a Class 4 is a waste.
It is much better to purchase a good quality branded class 2 or 4 card.

xeebot said:
Create a folder on the SD card called Music Then a folder in there for the Artist (Madonna, Jay-Z etc.) and another folder in artist for their Albums and put the mp3 for that album in there. So you'll end up creating a bunch of folders for each artist and each of their albums.
So your file structure on your SD card would be: Music/Artist(name)/Album(name)/MP3
This sped up my music tab considerably. BTW, if you use Windows Media Player or DoubleTwist to sync music, they will do the same thing and put them in the file structure I mentioned. Make sure they are mp3 files, I had problems with wma.
Hope this speeds things up for you guy's, like it did for me.
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or you use a software like the free/donation ware mp3tag. it will handle all aspects of working with mp3 tag's. i change the file structure of my 500+ mp3 files, from 'all in one folder' to the folder sorted format xeebot mentoined, with only a few mouse clicks.
and i can confirm that this speedup mp3 handling alot, music player is ready in 2-5 seconds after selecting the tab (before it taks up to 30 sec. and more).
another good program to prevent freezing and hanging of music tab is mp3val (also free/donation ware). it check your mp3 files for errors in the filestructure itself, and fix them if possible.
the definiton of the class/speed of sd cards can be found at the sd association website. the problem is to know what speed the controller of your device can do!. its useless to have a class 6(mb/s) card when your controller in the hd2 only do 4mb/s speed. and as far as i know htc makes always a big secret of facts like that .
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MKV files bigger than 4Gb? How to split them to copy into FAT32 4Gb size-limit SDcard

I don't know if it's already been posted or not.
You know that our SD cards (internal and/or external) is FAT32 formatted, so the FileSystem size limit is 4Gb.
This means that if you want to copy on your phone one file .Mkv bigger than 4Gb you can't
Some users have tried to split the Mkvs in several files less than 4Gb using tools like MkvMerge, but the Phone doesn't recognize the files outputted.
But if you split the file on a Linux OS (Ubuntu i.e.) the files generated works perfectly on the phone.
I have tested it on Ubuntu using MKVMerge, starting from a 4,8 Gb Mkv file splitted in 3 files (2Gb-2Gb-800Mb), files copied on the phone and played perfectly with the default Video Player.

There's a much easier way as well, though I've only tried this once:
If you connect the phone in Kies mode (in the usb settings) and it connects properly you will get a "GT-I9000" Device show up in my computer instead of the standard lettered drive under "Devices with removable storage". It seems that you need to have Kies running in the background (with the icon in your system tray) but not fully open for this to work (not entirely sure on this as Kies is finicky). When you double click on the GT-I900 device in my computer you will get options for the internal or external sd card (assuming you have one installed).
If you copy and paste a file onto either of the sd cards using this method, it uses the Kies background service to check the file. If it detects a media file that might not be supported it will give you a warning which you can choose to ignore and copy the file anyways. I've found that if you copy a larger than 4gb mkv it uses the Kies service to split the file and put it on the sd card automatically. This takes a while as it has to split/convert the file and then write a fair amount of data to the sd card over usb.
You may be confused when it finishes as it only shows 1 file, it is smart enough to hid the others. The size of the file seems to be the amount that the original one was over 4gb (ex a 4.7gb movie will show as 700mb), however if you check the space avail on the sd card you will see that it contains the full movie. I transfered a 4.7gb 720p rip of "Tropic Thunder" this way to my phone and it played just fine on the samsung video player.
Let me know if that works out for you, I havn't seen anyone else try this.

how about formatting the SD card as Linux EXT3 or 4
the use smb mount, so when it does the mass storage mount to windows you can simply drag and drop, without having to cut any video into 4 GB chunks due the FAT32 limitation?

Nirvana388 said:
There's a much easier way as well, though I've only tried this once:
If you connect the phone in Kies mode (in the usb settings) and it connects properly you will get a "GT-I9000" Device show up in my computer instead of the standard lettered drive under "Devices with removable storage". It seems that you need to have Kies running in the background (with the icon in your system tray) but not fully open for this to work (not entirely sure on this as Kies is finicky). When you double click on the GT-I900 device in my computer you will get options for the internal or external sd card (assuming you have one installed).
If you copy and paste a file onto either of the sd cards using this method, it uses the Kies background service to check the file. If it detects a media file that might not be supported it will give you a warning which you can choose to ignore and copy the file anyways. I've found that if you copy a larger than 4gb mkv it uses the Kies service to split the file and put it on the sd card automatically. This takes a while as it has to split/convert the file and then write a fair amount of data to the sd card over usb.
You may be confused when it finishes as it only shows 1 file, it is smart enough to hid the others. The size of the file seems to be the amount that the original one was over 4gb (ex a 4.7gb movie will show as 700mb), however if you check the space avail on the sd card you will see that it contains the full movie. I transfered a 4.7gb 720p rip of "Tropic Thunder" this way to my phone and it played just fine on the samsung video player.
Let me know if that works out for you, I havn't seen anyone else try this.
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Wow if this is true it is some pretty slick thinking ahead by Samsung both on the phone and PC side.. I think I will try this just for kicks, have a 6 GB MKV right here.
EDIT: Could not wait any longer... thing was maxing my CPU for 1/2 hour. I am pretty sure this is doing some kind of trans-coding.

AllGamer said:
how about formatting the SD card as Linux EXT3 or 4
the use smb mount, so when it does the mass storage mount to windows you can simply drag and drop, without having to cut any video into 4 GB chunks due the FAT32 limitation?
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This is exactly the test i would like to do, do you have already tested this way?
But, atm, i haven't any SD card to use and (most important) i would like to know if after having formatted in i.e. ext4 i will be able to re-format in Fat32.
And however, do i need a particular Memory Card Reader to read one ext? SD formatted card?
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There's a much easier way as well, though I've only tried this once:
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Good trick!
I will try it asap to give you a Roger on that!

brunes said:
Wow if this is true it is some pretty slick thinking ahead by Samsung both on the phone and PC side.. I think I will try this just for kicks, have a 6 GB MKV right here.
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Yea just make sure that it's 720p and not too high of a quality level.. I know it doesn't do quite all MKVs as the format is not yet entirely standardized. It seems to handle 4~5gb 720p mkvs just fine though, they just take FOREVER to transfer.
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how about formatting the SD card as Linux EXT3 or 4
the use smb mount, so when it does the mass storage mount to windows you can simply drag and drop, without having to cut any video into 4 GB chunks due the FAT32 limitation?
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I don't know that the phone would accept a file system other than fat32? Would be easy to find out though.

i have some videos that are larger than 4G
i'll definitely give it a shot to test the Linux partition theory.
I'm almost positive it'll work, as the "Lag Fixes" solution all uses the EXT3 and EXT4 partitions anyway.
but in our case we want to use it natively for video playback, and be able to mount it when we want to use it with Windows
re: question about formatting back to FAT32 after EXT3
Yes, it's possible and safe to do so.
As soon as i have more time in my hands, i'll give this a go, unless some one beats me to it (some one with more time on their hand)

brunes said:
Wow if this is true it is some pretty slick thinking ahead by Samsung both on the phone and PC side.. I think I will try this just for kicks, have a 6 GB MKV right here.
EDIT: Could not wait any longer... thing was maxing my CPU for 1/2 hour. I am pretty sure this is doing some kind of trans-coding.
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Haha yea it's software encoding, I think having Samsung encode it so it could run on your GPU would be a bit too much to ask lol. A 4.5gb movie took my quad core about 25 minutes to encode and then transfer.

AllGamer said:
i have some videos that are larger than 4G
i'll definitely give it a shot to test the Linux partition theory.
I'm almost positive it'll work, as the "Lag Fixes" solution all uses the EXT3 and EXT4 partitions anyway.
but in our case we want to use it natively for video playback, and be able to mount it when we want to use it with Windows
re: question about formatting back to FAT32 after EXT3
Yes, it's possible and safe to do so.
As soon as i have more time in my hands, i'll give this a go, unless some one beats me to it (some one with more time on their hand)
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Looking forward to your experiment!

AllGamer said:
i have some videos that are larger than 4G
i'll definitely give it a shot to test the Linux partition theory.
I'm almost positive it'll work, as the "Lag Fixes" solution all uses the EXT3 and EXT4 partitions anyway.
but in our case we want to use it natively for video playback, and be able to mount it when we want to use it with Windows
re: question about formatting back to FAT32 after EXT3
Yes, it's possible and safe to do so.
As soon as i have more time in my hands, i'll give this a go, unless some one beats me to it (some one with more time on their hand)
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Have you tried this yet? I've googled all over. Cant find solution how to format and use external SD like this. Found this thread and posted in it as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975803

u can download mkv smaller than 4gb..and graphic will be still great =)

Its not just movies I want to be able to place on sd card. I can't split those files. And I don't want to convert existing mkv files to a lower resolution, spend time on that.... its not a quick process to compress the resolution. I much rather be able to copy what i have now to my phone, instead of having to modify. ...
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http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
I use http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
You can set the file size and even remove unwanted subs and/or audios.

I have mkvtoolnix and have used it. Thats not the question, but thank you

Anyone knows?

not losing hope. It will be useful for others, I am sure.

compressing the file would help
as in making DVD sources with less channel or less quality can drastically reduce the file size without too much sacrify to HD quality
say for example choose 720 instead of 1080
2 channels instead of 6 channels
or even if you keep it 6 channels make it 160 instead 320, or maybe drop it lower to even 128 kbps
use 44 instead of 48
use 25 fps instead of 30fps
etc...

bmvik said:
Its not just movies I want to be able to place on sd card. I can't split those files. And I don't want to convert existing mkv files to a lower resolution, spend time on that.... its not a quick process to compress the resolution. I much rather be able to copy what i have now to my phone, instead of having to modify. ...
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so there is no way? We're just stuck having to use a workaround?

That size of file requires card to be formatted as exfat .
Try it see if phone reads exfat .
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SD card putting all music into LOST.DIR

AOKP w/ Devil kernel
I have same problem as these others and can't find can't find solution for this:
"So I've tried everything to get music to stay on my "external" SD card (32gb Micro SDHC class 6, by Kingston). I say
STAY because its syncs fine. But as soon as I try to unconnected it ( I've just yanked it, ejected the drive from
windows then pulled it, ejected it then shut off the phone and pulled it then turned it back on, etc...) it moves 90%
of the files from the music folder to lost.dir. I've done just about everything i can think, heres a list (sorry if some of them seem silly)
unmount SD card, remove from phone, plug into computer, load songs, re-mount = all files in LOST.dir
Sync "USB Mass Storage" Using
Windows Media
VCast media Maneger = all files in LOST.dir
Motorola "motocast USB"
WinAmp
Drag and Drop to folder
sync with the "windows Media Sync" mode not "USB Mass Storage"
Windows Media
VCast media Maneger
Motorola "motocast USB" = all files in LOST.dir
WinAmp
Sync to internal memory and move files to external. = All file in LOST.dir
Now here's where it gets strange, I've done this with 2 different SD cards, (both 32gb one a class 6, one a class 10)
and the same thing happens. I've use both of these cards on 2 different phones (talked to Verizon and they just sent
me a new phone) and the same thing happens. What the heck is going on?"
and this guy:
I'm having issues with music on an external sd card, can anyone advise?
I mounted a 32Gb sd card in Samsung Galaxy 1. I then copied music into music folder on card.
This has been done using Kies and several other times using a usb card holder and Win Explorer - all with same
results...
When I turn on phone, the external media scanner runs ok. I go to music and it only shows approx 16 cds of music. The
remainder seem to be "dumped" into media folder without structure,or alternatively get dumped into the Lost.dir.
Its almost like there's a limit on the size of the memory space allocated to the music folder.
I have used other apps to rescan media. I have also reformatted the cards to ensure no hidden files or attributes.
Also tried this with another new 4Gb card with same issue.
I just got a new Ainol 7 Advanced 7 inch Android tablet (which is pretty cool for cost v's performance).
Unfortunately, this has the same issues as the Samsung.
Obviously, this is due to the same "features" of the Android O/S and its memory mgt of external cards."
I'm using a 16gig card myself and the same thing is happening. Even if I transfer files over wifi and rescan media.
Someone said "I could be mistaken, but I think you may be right about the memory limit in file allocation on that device. I know it's true of some versions of the Android Operating System. The OS wants more storage area for system activity than
or media. Some users solve that issue by rooting their device and manipulating those parameters"
also said "In Unix the lost & found directory is for orphaned files and/or directories. They become orphaned due the OS no longer having the correct pointers to those files.
and "Some tweaks such as sdcard speed tweak and other sdcard related tweaks in init.d folder is causing this problem... Try to boot your phone without them and see if it works"
So I removed what I think was a speed tweak from the init.d folder and rebooted...same thing.
There seems to be from what I've seen, a 1.8 or 2gig limit on media files on the external SD. Everything works great until you add past 2gig, then the rest goes to LOST.DIR. So I tried something, format the SD and copied over 5gig of PDF files, I got the same thing only it seemed the limit was now 3.8gig. So does anyone know how to get around these limits?