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[Q] Nexus One or Bell Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant? I have both, need to sell one.

I just won a free Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant with Bell Mobility, but which one should I keep? I love my Nexus One, and it seems that there is a lot more development for the N1 right now. I am a rom flashing junkie, love to tinker with my phone, and make update.zip files for fun...
That being said, clearly the N1 is better.. but only for right now. Does anyone have any insight on when the Galaxy will get as much attention? It is on 5-6 networks already after all..
Thanks!
Either way, lets get a rom dump and see what we can play with

fiftyclick said:
I just won a free Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant with Bell Mobility, but which one should I keep? I love my Nexus One, and it seems that there is a lot more development for the N1 right now. I am a rom flashing junkie, love to tinker with my phone, and make update.zip files for fun...
That being said, clearly the N1 is better.. but only for right now. Does anyone have any insight on when the Galaxy will get as much attention? It is on 5-6 networks already after all..
Thanks!
Either way, lets get a rom dump and see what we can play with
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Galaxy S probably has the better hardware.
N1 will continue to get android releases from google first ... once the Galaxy S is out on all networks and widely sold, I would expect custom rom development to explode for it (and be the same if not better than for the n1)
=> I would keep the galaxy (based on better hardware alone)

i would keep both. you have the best of both world. N1 which is will have the most updated android and SGS which has best hardware at this moment. but with some issues on software. but that will be all figured out. play with both and then make your decision.
BTW, hating on you so much. lucky SOB.

Whatever you do, don't get rid of the N1. Either keep both and hope the Galaxy issues get resolved (GPS AND Compass) or sell the Galaxy. The Galaxy has much faster graphics performance and built in HDMI out via USB but, unfortunately, the GPS and Compass issue make it a no go for a day to day user. The thing about the Nexus is that it will continue to get updates first and,likely, there will be much more development on it. Likely, this will result in much better tuned software and possibly even open up even more functionality. With the core hardware issues of the Samsung, you are at the mercy of Samsung and their track record is not so good. I actually bought a Vibrant (Galaxy S) and returned it.

Hey! I'm a new Nexus One user. I've been using the Galaxy S for a long time and in the end chose the N1 over it. Yes, the hardware on the GS is better than the N1, but really, for me it all came down to keeping the phone that made me feel heavenly -- the N1!

You will be better off in the long run with the Nexus One...

I sold my n1 for the sgs and I'm not looking back.. true Multitouch, memory ,gpu and super amoled was enough for me. N1 was great, but the sgs is better IMO... development is starting pretty well. Especially soon....

Is the Galaxy Tab a good investment community-wise ?

Hello,
I joined the xda community about a year ago, first with my Htc Magic, then with my HD2. I have the opportunity to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab from some carrier for little extra money of my current Internet plan. And for 10 €/month more, I could get the new 10.1 version...
Although I do know that logically I should choose the 10.1, I still consider the 7'. Why ? Well, it would be cheaper at first. Then, I like the 7' size more and I'm not sure I would need Dual-Core processor for Internet surfing ! Also, the 10' model's phone app is blocked by the carrier, while it's not for the 7'...
But I digress !
Before to sign up to the plan, I'd like to take the pulse of the community. It's something I always do prior to purchasing a new device. I'm use to the HD2 orgy of Roms and OS and I must say that the less-furnished Development section for the Tab leaves me thinking. I don't doubt of the quaility of the ROMS but I wonder if devs are not already leaving the Tab's development for more recent Tablets and devices.
So...If you are a serial flasher like me, is the Tab a good invesmet ? I'd love to flash later CyanogenMod releases when there will be actual Tablet versions of it (for the moment, CM7 on a tablet is still in its early months) and of course Honeycomb or even better, Ice Cream Sandwhich. Will there be dev's at that moment ? Of course, I know it's not an easy question to answer but it's more about the community strengh until today actually...
Thanks and see you soon hopefully !

cm7 + tablet tweaks = win.
with roms, ill take quality over quantity, even tho there are only 3 2.3 roms, they are all badass.
the tab7 has been the best tech device ive ever owned, i have an ipad but it lives in the draw, its just way to big todo anything with other than using it in bed or on the toilet.
I suggest get the 7inch or wait for the new 7inch (who knows when that will come)
the only negative i have is that theres so many new devices out with dual core ect... but so far it hasnt stopped me from doing anything that these newer devices can do (you can play tegra games via chainfire) but eventually it will become an issue i guess.

The carrier matters.
More dev work is being done for the GSM variants at the moment. But spacemoose1 does have an alpha hc rom and dev continues in that.

Thank you for your anwser and I do agree about quality over quantity...
I'm aware of tablet tweaks from CM7, I already used them on my 4'3 HD2 screen but that not much in comparison of the many tweaks TouchWiz seems to bring to the Android 2.2 UI. Of course, overlay means slower device but oh well...
Is it possible to easily save/back up the stock Android Rom it will be shipped with in order to restore if I need to return it under warranty ?
Thanks !

DannyBiker said:
Thank you for your anwser and I do agree about quality over quantity...
I'm aware of tablet tweaks from CM7, I already used them on my 4'3 HD2 screen but that not much in comparison of the many tweaks TouchWiz seems to bring to the Android 2.2 UI. Of course, overlay means slower device but oh well...
Is it possible to easily save/back up the stock Android Rom it will be shipped with in order to restore if I need to return it under warranty ?
Thanks !
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Yeh, you can do a nandroid backup, or just find your stock firmware, from the website sam-firmware (i think thats it) or just brick it

[REQUEST] Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE Root and Development (SGH-i957)

Full Root Instructions Can Be Found Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20481609#post20481609
Hi Guys,
Hope this is the right forum to post this in. Says requests go in 'general', so here goes:
Over the last few days I have scoured the internet as well as XDA for a root on the LTE version from AT&T, branded SGH-i957. I have come across multiple people as well across multiple threads who have also expressed interest. The purpose of this thread is to concentrate work on this in one location separately since rooting and ROM development seem nonexistent at the moment. Also, I am willing to donate to any developer who can help us out. If other people are also willing, we can start a running total to give some motivation.
I have experience rooting and flashing multiple devices, but I am lacking in developmental skills, but I am willing to try if any developer for the wifi version has ideas but no device to try it on. From my limited knowledge, I believe you need to start with a rooted device to pull the ROM Dump from the device to start development.
Root Status:
ROOTED! (Thanks Da_G)
Da_G said:
Here's an odin tar I put together to root the AT&T Galaxy Tab 8.9, along with a tar that contains the stock kernel.
You can return back to stock kernel immediately after flashing, or keep mine loaded up, works great either way.
Changes in this kernel:
ADB Insecure (gives you # root prompt at adb instead of $)
su, busybox added to ramdisk
script to install busybox and su at boot-up
init.d support for running init.d scripts at bootup
stock android bootanimation (so you can run custom boot anims)
Modded Kernel: http://ponack.net/TPC/dagnarf/sgh-i957-rooted-kernel-v2.tar
Stock Kernel: http://ponack.net/TPC/dagnarf/stock-kernel-odin-image-for-sgh-i957.tar
Open odin, put desired kernel .tar in PDA section, flash.
Install Superuser from market.
Done!
Don't have a device, so no overclocked kernel coming from me just yet, if I can get my hands on one expect it soon!
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ROM Development:
N/A
Disclaimer: Not responsible for any bricked devices.

The 8.9 already had a weak support time. One ROM and one kernel. Then the ATT version comes out with a DIFFERENT SoC.

I agree. Please also looking to Bell Canada's version as well if possible... I am receiving it tomorrow...

Thanks for Posting this.
I will also donate 30 dollars .
I believe that 8.9 lte is the best tablet out there considering its low weight

I also am willing to assist in development although I have little if any experience this would be a good reason to get cracking on learning that stuff as I don't see anyone rushing to help us out. If there is a device willing to give it some work I also would pony up $50. 00 US greenback to the cause.
Currently Skyrocketing into Android Space!

You guys are so lucky. Canada doesn't get the free GSII-SR. I paid full price for my 8.9LTE ($650CAD!!+tax no less).
The whole reason I bought this even over the mythical 7.7 is because of the LTE chip and supposingly faster speed (I hope... 1.5GHz vs 1.2GHz). So at this point this is the fastest tablet aside from the Prime and should warrant more attention.
Sorry to get off topic a little, but does an launcher app like Go Launcher totally replaces Touchwiz?
Is it running as an APP?
What happens to Touchwiz when Go Launcher is active?
Esstenially does it slow my tablet down?
Thanks

Send a PM to XDA member toastcfh. He or someone on his team may be able to help you guys out. I have heard that root isn't possible, but I have no idea what that means. Did they lock the bootloader? AT&T is involved, so I am not surprised they locked things down...

Thanks motley. I will contact him and let you guys know what's happening.
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the_hatrix said:
You guys are so lucky. Canada doesn't get the free GSII-SK. I paid full price for my 8.9LTE ($650CAD!!+tax no less).
The whole reason I bought this even over the mythical 7.7 is because of the LTE chip and supposingly faster speed (I hope... 1.5GHz vs 1.2GHz). So at this point this is the fastest tablet aside from the Prime and should warrant more attention.
Sorry to get off topic a little, but does an launcher app like Go Launcher totally replaces Touchwiz?
Is it running as an APP?
What happens to Touchwiz when Go Launcher is active?
Esstenially does it slow my tablet down?
Thanks
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Launchers usually make the tablet faster. I am using adw and it flies...
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I am using Go Launcher because i have it on my phone and really like it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using XDA App

_motley said:
Send a PM to XDA member toastcfh. He or someone on his team may be able to help you guys out. I have heard that root isn't possible, but I have no idea what that means. Did they lock the bootloader? AT&T is involved, so I am not surprised they locked things down...
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PM sent hopefully he will be willing to assist. If it really is locked down and cannot be messed with then i will probably get rid of it as i don't want a device I can't customize.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using XDA App

Blackberrynomore said:
PM sent hopefully he will be willing to assist. If it really is locked down and cannot be messed with then i will probably get rid of it as i don't want a device I can't customize.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using XDA App
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Don't everyone send him a PM, dont want to flood his inbox.
I dont think the bootloader is locked. I think it is just an issue of this acting like a honeycomb cellphone.
Croak said:
Problem is, the VZW LTE 10.1 unit is still using the same Tegra SoC as the WiFi and 3G versions.
The AT&T/Bell Tab 8.9 is using a Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC (same as the GS2 Skyrocket, T-Mobile GS2). And the Skyrocket/T-Mobile GS2 roots won't work because the phones using this SoC are all running Gingerbread, not Honeycomb.
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This should be the firmware for the Galaxy Tablet 8.9 LTE
Link: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=SGH-I957&r=5
note: it is labeled as smartphone and not tablet, but the PDA matches mine exactly.

I'm still working on this. Sending out pm's to devs who have rooted similar devices.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

What's scary is that the HTC Jetstream hasn't been rooted yet either, and it's been out for months. It uses the same SoC as the 8.9 LTE.
I'm sure the stupid high price didn't help the Jetstream though. Just not a lot of them ending up in the hands of the dev-minded.
What's encouraging, at least, is the BOGO deal on the 8.9 LTE/Skyrocket seems to be moving a fair number of Tabs in the US, which could lead to more dev support.

Croak said:
What's scary is that the HTC Jetstream hasn't been rooted yet either, and it's been out for months. It uses the same SoC as the 8.9 LTE.
I'm sure the stupid high price didn't help the Jetstream though. Just not a lot of them ending up in the hands of the dev-minded.
What's encouraging, at least, is the BOGO deal on the 8.9 LTE/Skyrocket seems to be moving a fair number of Tabs in the US, which could lead to more dev support.
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Yikes. Their bounty is $920 along with a free device, and still no one has done it. They do have a few devs actively looking into it though.

orlandoxpolice said:
Yikes. Their bounty is $920 along with a free device, and still no one has done it. They do have a few devs actively looking into it though.
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Keep us posted Orlando I for one would love to be able to root this and hopefully make it better than it currently is which suckyyyy!

I want to enable tethering from the 8.9. It seems att has removed this feature. I want to root to enable this functionality and I'm willing to pitch in as well. Unless someone has an app that works on honeycomb.

dmunjal said:
I want to enable tethering from the 8.9. It seems att has removed this feature. I want to root to enable this functionality and I'm willing to pitch in as well. Unless someone has an app that works on honeycomb.
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I am talking to DA_G who makes skyrocket kernels, as well as the guys at the jetstream rooting forum so we will see how far we get...
main issue is just finding a root exploit for honeycomb.

Hi Guys,
Status update. Have some good work going on with Da_G. Will need some brave people shortly.

Time to upgrade....

I have been enjoying sgs experience for quite a long time now( I still do) but as device is slowly aging I think its time to upgrade. I'm currently waiting for release of sgs3. What do you suggest, is it worth waiting for it or its better to go and buy galaxy nexus or sgs2? Are there more devices worth buying right now?
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Personally I would wait for the S3 then do some comparisons between phones from different vendors.
One good site to make some comparisons is gsmarena.com , they generally have good reviews and very in depth information about the phone's hardware and specifications too

Just wait for the S3, I heard that it will have a quad core cpu, so it will beat the S2 and all predecessors for sure
gsmarena is also a great site, personally I use it everytime I am looking for something about phones they are great!
galaxy S is still a great phone, if it's slow then you can do a hard reset, maybe it helps with something, and by installing a "simple" rom you can also achieve more performance!

I think it's to soon decide.
U need to know if the phone will be common and then decide cuz probably Samsung will stop developing versions for it and then you depend on the community (look for example Galaxy s 9000 and ICS).

However I'm not getting new phone because sgs is slow or things like that.....and yea I decided, I'm gonna get sgs3, ty both
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Syrex-OL said:
I think it's to soon decide.
U need to know if the phone will be common and then decide cuz probably Samsung will stop developing versions for it and then you depend on the community (look for example Galaxy s 9000 and ICS).
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There is nothing to suggest that the S3 will not be a popular phone.
Unless Samsung make a complete **** up with it, it will be as popular as the SGS and SII.
All the phone manufacturers will at some point stop ROM development at some point with a phone.
Go talk to owners of other Android phones and you will find many are not happy with their device not having ICS support.
There is no reason why the SII won't be able to support the next version of Android (and beyond) and the same will apply to the S3.
If Samsung do carry on support the phones then great but if they give up after a 2 year cycle on a product, I can see their point.
OP, my contract is up for renewal in July and depending on the reviews of the S3 (I think they will be good), providing I can get one for a nominal upgrade free, I'll get one otherwise I'll get an S2.

[Q] opinions about Samsung galaxy s advance

Hi everybody. I've already checked the various threads but the answers don't satisfied me. I want the Samsung Galaxy s Advance and I've the chance to buy it for 250 euros. The device is perfect for what I have to do (the only drawback is the RAM, because I wanted it to be 1 gb). Anyway, my question is: is it good to buy it now? I fear that it will not be upgraded anymore. I've another question: should I wait for new devices coming at the MWC? Any release date? My budget is limited to 250 euros.
Thanks in... advance
Sorry for my bad English

Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!

nlygamz said:
Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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thanks. I think I'll get the Advance. So I hope xda developers will continue rocking on this device!

I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806

Sami Kabir said:
I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!

Don't buy it if you expect development.
It's a solid performer but nothing more. I came here from a ****ty, low-end htc device that had more development done in a month than SGSA since it had it's own subforum on xda.
So for the time being you can choose from:
1. JB update X or JB update Y - both provided by our hefty russian branch :>
2. two custom kernels which do have some bugs and glitches (but hey, nothing's perfect right?)
Device was released nearly a year ago. Do the math.

The only reason i would recommend you to avoid samsung smartphones is problem with keeping dialer and sms applications locked in RAM. So far i have not seen the device (from ancient devices like spica or i5500 to s3) that manage this properly without custom rom (@official samsung software dev's wtf?). So i would probably go for LG/Sony

nlygamz said:
I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!

Brainiac.shri said:
Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox

Одг: [Q] opinions about Samsung galaxy s advance
nlygamz said:
android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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One thing is "may run" and another is "Samsung will give it to us".
Sent from Galaxy S Advance

@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??

nlygamz said:
@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.

shut_down said:
Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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I don't we will get 5.0 update.. maybe S2 may not also get it.. S2 and our phone may get 4.2 update and that would be it!
But I'm just guessing.. the rest depends on Google and Samsung

discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers

Closed Force said:
discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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HTC is way worse than Samsung......
P.S. I was an X-HTC user
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It doesn't really matter what updates will samsung release, that I've learned while owning an original Galaxy S. The last fw officially relased to it was GB 2.3.6. Right now it rocks Jelly Bean 4.2 stable. (yes, of course CyanogenMod ^^)
It's quiet an old device, but still, the dev support is amazing! And do you know why it's possible? Firstly, sales. More than 10 million sold. More popular device means more devs, usually. Secondly, it's hardware is identical to Google's Nexus S which received an official Jelly Bean and that means source codes released in timely manner to work with!
As for the S Advance, the only problem is popularity. It was an awful mistake to release it with gingerbread instead of already long available ICS. This repels users, who are interested in tinkering with their phone. This means only those few people (and to whom I thank their efforts) are here and capable to do anything with development for our device. Honestly, the list of roms and kernels are short.
On the other hand the chipset is quiet popular and I'm sure other handsets with the same chipset will help somewhat to keep this device up to date for as long as possible.
Cheers!

Hi everybody!
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
What would you suggest?
Are you happy with the I9070?
I am a bit worried that you do not have many ROMs available - while I8150 has plenty of them and good developers, just to name one, arco! - and it seems to me that the I8150 is not very widespread...
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, tx.

The number 1 advantage in s advance is good value for money and good specs for that price. If specs are your only concern try s3mini . It may be costlier but has more ram. As regards s advance, now after Jb update development has picked up and we do have at 3 least good custom ROMs and other mods. CM10 official may come soon and there will be more ROMs based on it.
But if you are buying a phone now look for something newer as Samsung mostly won't release next android update for advance
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... And take care with the P version...
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@ Sadvance: I surely agree with the fact that I9070 seems to be good value for money.
I would go for S3 mini (although I prefer the design of I9070 actually!) but paying 100€ more for having 1GB Ram instead of 768MB is not justifiable imho.
Are there other significant differences between S3 mini and I9070 (I cannot find any other)?
@R_a_z_v_a_n: what do you mean?
Should I look for the P version since it also has NFC reader?
Or should I look for the normal (i.e. NOT P version) because it seems to be more widespread?
Tx a lot.