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Topaz video capturing,What's wrong with HTC

Hello everyone
Seriously whats wrong with HTC?
Same time when all companies try to give a better response to costumers with more improvements ,here we go again.... HTC is just making it worse.
The HTC diamond 2 ( Topaz) is Using the same Camera HTC HD Does. Touch Pro، Diamond and Touch HD all capture videos in CIF Resolution . The new VGA version cut the bit rates to the Half,now Instead of 30 frames per second we have 15.... Is it even funny?
I know its all related to the Software,they easily can solve the problem with an update so what we can do?Im sure they are not going to make such updates.
So any Idea how we can make it?How to tell them?

I dont think it's related to software..
30fps vga movie recording is (640*480)*30fps burst image recording with compression.. So, it's limited by hardware imho..

definitely a hardware issue, not software

DUDE!
if you wana make a film or film things, you shude buy a filmcamera
cameras on phones SUCK ! on ALL phones!!!!

Zinnix said:
cameras on phones SUCK ! on ALL phones!!!!
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Thats not completly true, my old N95 8GB had a very good video capture

I don't know what's wrong with your device(s), but mine is recording fine with 30 fps.

Zinnix is right though, if you have aspirations to be a movie maker, buy a proper movie camera................

adesonic said:
Zinnix is right though, if you have aspirations to be a movie maker, buy a proper movie camera................
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I already have one
The problem is they could do it better when previous versions have a better one,anyway leave it because Topaz image capturing satisfies me and that's enough.

peterbonge said:
I don't know what's wrong with your device(s), but mine is recording fine with 30 fps.
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mine too

Zinnix said:
DUDE!
if you wana make a film or film things, you shude buy a filmcamera
cameras on phones SUCK ! on ALL phones!!!!
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This is complete nonsense. There are a couple of phones (starting with the Nokia N95) which have an excellent video recording quality.
I also get pretty mad at HTC when I compare the SE C905 camera to the HTC Diamond 2 camera. Even the "old" Nokia N95 takes much better pictures than the Diamond 2, I won't even start to mention the much higher shutter release/focus speed of the N95.
As to video PLAYBACK quality, HTC sucks bigtime. I don't know what is wrong with them but most of their newer devices need a lot of tweaking and/or special programs like CorePlayer to be able to playback video files in a decent quality. I know it is a hardware restriction (Qualcomm sucks!) but HTC is to blame for it because this is nothing new and there are thousands of complaints about this on the internet.
Samsung actually proved pretty well that most "issues" on modern Windows Mobile devices aren't caused by Windows Mobile but are limitations induced by the used hardware. Take the Samsung i780 as an example: this device has NO problems whatsoever to playback video files in a decent quality. It uses a Marvell chipset, not Qualcomm. Also look at the decent camera of the Samsung Omnia i900, it may mot beat the Nokia N95 photo quality but it is definetely better than anything HTC has to offer, sad but true.

P996 said:
This is complete nonsense. There are a couple of phones (starting with the Nokia N95) which have an excellent video recording quality.
I also get pretty mad at HTC when I compare the SE C905 camera to the HTC Diamond 2 camera. Even the "old" Nokia N95 takes much better pictures than the Diamond 2, I won't even start to mention the much higher shutter release/focus speed of the N95.
As to video PLAYBACK quality, HTC sucks bigtime. I don't know what is wrong with them but most of their newer devices need a lot of tweaking and/or special programs like CorePlayer to be able to playback video files in a decent quality. I know it is a hardware restriction (Qualcomm sucks!) but HTC is to blame for it because this is nothing new and there are thousands of complaints about this on the internet.
Samsung actually proved pretty well that most "issues" on modern Windows Mobile devices aren't caused by Windows Mobile but are limitations induced by the used hardware. Take the Samsung i780 as an example: this device has NO problems whatsoever to playback video files in a decent quality. It uses a Marvell chipset, not Qualcomm. Also look at the decent camera of the Samsung Omnia i900, it may mot beat the Nokia N95 photo quality but it is definetely better than anything HTC has to offer, sad but true.
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I Second that,but The phone definitions are available on Net before we get a handy so we all knew its nothing new. We are talking about Pocket pcs but As for Multimedia you could wait for Omnia HD which is the king.
I was going to buy Omnia HD but well Its not going to come with windows mobile ,For now Topaz was the best choice for me because i couldn't wait anymore.
For those who can Wait ,We are going to see new generation of pocket pcs within 2 or 3 month so you can wait.

PhilXdaOrbit2 said:
mine too
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Common boys,Doesn't matter where you get it but they are all same. Please read various reviews of Topaz every where and you will see this problem is not just about me.

peterbonge said:
I don't know what's wrong with your device(s), but mine is recording fine with 30 fps.
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Mine only records at just under 20fps. How are you getting 30fps? Is there a tweak or something I'm missing? Thanks
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mine too
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How do you tell? I've got it set for VGA but it only records at about 16-19fps.

I've just switched from a N95 to a D2 and the video looks great on the D2 compared to the N95.
I just got my D2 last week so could it be a newer ROM?

WMguy said:
Mine only records at just under 20fps. How are you getting 30fps? Is there a tweak or something I'm missing? Thanks
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I think I can solve this mystery now: The D2 records with variable frame rate. Some programs or tools (like GSpot) are showing only the maximal frame rate, which is indeed 30 fps. Other tools are showing the averaged frame rate. Now I've found a tool called MediaInfo, which shows all frame rates. I've just tested it with a recorded video:
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Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 19.228 fps
Minimum frame rate : 7.500 fps
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 fps

peterbonge said:
I think I can solve this mystery now: The D2 records with variable frame rate. Some programs or tools (like GSpot) are showing only the maximal frame rate, which is indeed 30 fps. Other tools are showing the averaged frame rate. Now I've found a tool called MediaInfo, which shows all frame rates. I've just tested it with a recorded video:
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Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 19.228 fps
Minimum frame rate : 7.500 fps
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 fps
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It has 5 kind of Resolution:
1- S(128x96)
2-M(176x144)
3-L(320x240)
4-CIF(352x288)
5-VGA(640x480)

payameno said:
It has 5 kind of Resolution:
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What do you want to tell us with this listing? I was talking about the frame rate and not the resolution.

peterbonge said:
What do you want to tell us with this listing? I was talking about the frame rate and not the resolution.
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Each Resolution has its own Frame rate,For VGA its 15 fps

payameno said:
Each Resolution has its own Frame rate,For VGA its 15 fps
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Have you checked that with MediaInfo? The results I've posted are from a VGA recording.

peterbonge said:
Have you checked that with MediaInfo? The results I've posted are from a VGA recording.
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Not actually,Im just saying that as its what GSMArena reviews says.
I think there is something strange here.
How a same VGA Resolution does the recording with such various Frame rates? There is no option to change Rates so basically it just records with an invariable rate which it seems to be 15 fps for the VGA resolution.

[Q] Sony Xperia Z Camera

Is that true? that you can only take 1MP pictures while recording a video?
cause I saw in a video that it can only take 1MP snaps while recording a video.

No. actually max video resolution is 640x480 pixels.

mcFactor said:
No. actually max video resolution is 640x480 pixels.
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Sony Mobile, recycles SGSIII in exchange for my brand new Sony Xperia ™ ZQ?

mcFactor said:
No. actually max video resolution is 640x480 pixels.
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Wut? Where's your source? In addition to shooting 1080p HDR video, it apparently has:
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ability to grab full-resolution stills while recording video
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/sony-xperia-z-hands-on-ces-2013/

Photos shot during video aren't full resolution, but it's not far off. I believe it was somewhere between 6 and 9 megapixels.

Ambroos said:
Photos shot during video aren't full resolution, but it's not far off. I believe it was somewhere between 6 and 9 megapixels.
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Indeed, I think it's good enough and if you don't take pictures during a video the quality is even better.

Ambroos said:
Photos shot during video aren't full resolution, but it's not far off. I believe it was somewhere between 6 and 9 megapixels.
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even I heard it about that on slashgear I guess, the maximum stills are 9MP. well it's more than enough, I just wanted to double check about that.

chesterr said:
Is that true? that you can only take 1MP pictures while recording a video?
cause I saw in a video that it can only take 1MP snaps while recording a video.
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when recording full hd 1080x1920 video, still image capture is also at 1080x1920 (about 2megapixels) which results in 1mb image files
J

It was clearly said in promo video that it shoots 9mpx while video recording
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beeboss said:
It was clearly said in promo video that it shoots 9mpx while video recording
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Link to the video where this is stated explicitly, then this thread can end.

beeboss said:
It was clearly said in promo video that it shoots 9mpx while video recording
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9 MP is for burst mode, capturing pictures at a stretch in 10 FPS. Not for the photo shoot in video i guess!

AW: [Q] Sony Xperia Z Camera
jaydeee007 said:
when recording full hd 1080x1920 video, still image capture is also at 1080x1920 (about 2megapixels) which results in 1mb image files
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Not if you have a Dual shutter dude
And the Xperia Z has a dual shutter
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gire.prasad said:
9 MP is for burst mode, capturing pictures at a stretch in 10 FPS. Not for the photo shoot in video i guess!
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In Bustmode you can use full 13mpx at 10-15 fps depends on the cpu frequency and free ram
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tessut said:
Not if you have a Dual shutter dude
And the Xperia Z has a dual shutter
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In Bustmode you can use full 13mpx at 10-15 fps depends on the cpu frequency and free ram
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But a sony executive said so in a video that, it utilises only 9mp to the max for burst mode!
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But a sony executive said so in a video that, it utilises only 9mp to the max for burst mode!
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If it has HDR turned on.
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If it has HDR turned on.
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Can't use burst and HDR at the same time.

Ambroos said:
Can't use burst and HDR at the same time.
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burst has 3 settings, high speed (1280x720) mid (3920x2204) and low (1920x1080)
HDR must be automatically disabled as turning it on/off manually makes no difference to burst speeds.
Stills settings on NORMAL
HDR on =12mp top resolution (4:3 3920x2940) or 9mp (16:9 3920x2204)
HDR off =13mp top resolution (4:3 4128x3096) or 9mp (16:9 3920x2204)
Stills settings on SUPERIOR AUTO
HDR NOT SELECTABLE =12mp top resolution (4:3 3920x2940) or 9mp (16:9 3920x2204)
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so what does burst mode exactly mean?
I really like taken pictures with my smartphone but unfortunately Android Phones are VERY slow taking a picture. I saw how a friend of mine was taking pictures with his Iphone5 camera and I was only thinking "I want that fast camera for my next Android Phone!! ^^
So how fast is that burst mode?

bonsai112 said:
so what does burst mode exactly mean?
I really like taken pictures with my smartphone but unfortunately Android Phones are VERY slow taking a picture. I saw how a friend of mine was taking pictures with his Iphone5 camera and I was only thinking "I want that fast camera for my next Android Phone!! ^^
So how fast is that burst mode?
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Burst mode is different again. Hold the button and it'll keep taking photos. What you want is a low shutter lag.. which is the delay between pressing the button and getting a photo. This depends very much on the camera hardware and the app driving it - it's very possible for one android phone to be slow and another very fast.
Rest assured this should be good... who do you think makes the iphone camera modules that you like so much
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Burst mode is different again. Hold the button and it'll keep taking photos. What you want is a low shutter lag.. which is the delay between pressing the button and getting a photo. This depends very much on the camera hardware and the app driving it - it's very possible for one android phone to be slow and another very fast.
Rest assured this should be good... who do you think makes the iphone camera modules that you like so much
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ah ok burst mode seems to be nice feature! Yeah I didn't really know if shutter lag is the right word^^ I didn't know that Sony is making the Camera hardware for apple, but that doesn't mean that it will be as fast as the Iphone taking pictures, because of their software...

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ah ok burst mode seems to be nice feature! Yeah I didn't really know if shutter lag is the right word^^ I didn't know that Sony is making the Camera hardware for apple, but that doesn't mean that it will be as fast as the Iphone taking pictures, because of their software...
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Being slow isn't a bug it's a feature A feature called auto focus. When you click the camera button it first try to focus on the object it's facing before actually taking a pic. Try disabling it and you could use your camera to shoot like using a machine gun
And yeah burst mode is something similar to what I explained in a single click.

[Q] Slow motion video

What specs does the N6 offer in turns of slow motion video capturing?

Bump. I have the same question. Seems that none of the reviews explored the camera settings. Any update on this?

Everything I have seen has said that it takes video at 30fps
As far as I know, slow motion requires more frames per second. So I'm thinking that's a no on slow-mo. I could be wrong though.

The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."

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The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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I don't know if this video is legit, but here's a youtube video supposedly shot by the Nexus 6, 1080p @ 120 fps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq7XPDsnuXk

i'm sure that video is fake. There is no proof that the video came from a nexus 6, let alone any mobile device.
Once the embargo is lifted on the 12th we'll all know 100% about the camera I suppose

Google I/O
Lollipop opens up the Camera API to try to allow camera apps to take full advantage of the camera hardware. What is that camera hardware able to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtp3tH27OFs

well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes

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well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.

Marcellus1 said:
The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Even my 2 year old Note 2 does slow motion video but the Note 4 slow motion still does not capture audio with the slow mo video or do it as well as the iPhone sadly. It would be great if the Nexus 6 could do slow mo with audio & had some cool video effects like the Note line..:good:

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Marcellus1 said:
The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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scandalousk said:
Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Even the reviewers in many of the reviews that came out yesterday seemed surprised at how basic the camera app on the N6 is. RAW capture is the big new thing with L but the camera app doesn't capture it. Either Google has a big update in store or developers will find their own way. There have already been numerous example improvements shown with lcamera.

Anyone with a device in hand yet try any 3rd party camera apps?

You have to remember the guy who posted about the api'$ and taking raw pics it was with nexus 5 and a camera app he wrote ... won't be long b
efore some apps have it though i am sure
Here is his git hub so his camera can be used
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/
Here is the write up
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/

since it has the same camera as the one plus, would installing the camera apk from it possibly bring slowmo recording or will it have to be written into the frame working?

borchgrevink said:
What specs does the N6 offer in turns of slow motion video capturing?
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera

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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.

thair7391 said:
Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool! Keep me informed.

I tried the open camera as well as that L camera, I was able to change the framerate in the settings but it still records at 30 fps so no luck there sadly! I really hope we can get a slow motion app working someday, it's an awesome tool from time to time.

Why in the world is there no 1080p/60fps video recording on the N6?

Even two year old phones like the LG G2 have it. Anyone know if it will be included in a future update? The hardware is obviously capable.

The hardware is capable but the Google Camera app is absolutely horrible.
Try LCamera: https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/releases

GrayBoltWolf said:
The hardware is capable but the Google Camera app is absolutely horrible.
Try LCamera: https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/releases
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Don't know why everybody says that goog camera is so bad. It works just as well as any other.
Also, lcamera's 60fps mode is limited to Hammerhead, and requires custom hacked blobs to enable. Won't do it on Shamu.
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No 60fps because you won't get anything useful out of it. It'll just suck your storage dry faster.

doitright said:
Don't know why everybody says that goog camera is so bad. It works just as well as any other.
Also, lcamera's 60fps mode is limited to Hammerhead, and requires custom hacked blobs to enable. Won't do it on Shamu.
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No 60fps because you won't get anything useful out of it. It'll just suck your storage dry faster.
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Uh...60fps is extremely useful, especially now that youtube shows videos in 60fps. It's a world of difference compared to 30fps.

doitright said:
Don't know why everybody says that goog camera is so bad. It works just as well as any other.
Also, lcamera's 60fps mode is limited to Hammerhead, and requires custom hacked blobs to enable. Won't do it on Shamu.
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Dunno what you are talking about. Works just fine for me:
http://i.imgur.com/m35cK4M.png

Open camera is another good one, have been using it until google overhauls the stock camera app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en

doitright said:
Don't know why everybody says that goog camera is so bad. It works just as well as any other.
Also, lcamera's 60fps mode is limited to Hammerhead, and requires custom hacked blobs to enable. Won't do it on Shamu.
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No 60fps because you won't get anything useful out of it. It'll just suck your storage dry faster.
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What do you mean nothing useful out of it? Suck your storage faster. We want 1080p 60frames. On our 64 gig storage phones. To take video with fast movement. I understand 2160p at 30 frames. Technology isn't there yet. But 1080p is and shame on Google for not enabling it.
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GrayBoltWolf said:
Dunno what you are talking about. Works just fine for me:
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What app are you using?

tansuperman said:
What app are you using?
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That is L Camera which I linked above.

I have tried open camera and lcamera. both set to [email protected] actually record with about 30fps!

madphone said:
I have tried open camera and lcamera. both set to [email protected] actually record with about 30fps!
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Yea thats my experience too, it doesn't actually record in 60fps unfortunately

italia0101 said:
Yea thats my experience too, it doesn't actually record in 60fps unfortunately
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That sucks to hear. I will do my own test, but I believe you guys. Not sure why moto would do this to us. 1080p 30 fps is lame.

brian85 said:
Uh...60fps is extremely useful, especially now that youtube shows videos in 60fps. It's a world of difference compared to 30fps.
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The difference is in your head.
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I have tried open camera and lcamera. both set to [email protected] actually record with about 30fps!
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Hahahahahaha, to all those who tried it and said "OMG 60fps is soooooo smooth", I LOL @ you, because this guy has proof that you're imagining the difference.

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The difference is in your head.
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Hahahahahaha, to all those who tried it and said "OMG 60fps is soooooo smooth", I LOL @ you, because this guy has proof that you're imagining the difference.
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You really don't see the difference in frame rates? I have a hard time seeing resolution differences, but 30 vs 60 is pretty clear to me.

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The difference is in your head.
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Hahahahahaha, to all those who tried it and said "OMG 60fps is soooooo smooth", I LOL @ you, because this guy has proof that you're imagining the difference.
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If you can't notice the difference in framerate between 30 and 60 than you might want to visit a doctor.
The difference is extremely clear, and very desirable for smooth video and motion.
There is a reason that most video games run at 60 FPS instead of 30.

It looks smoother but if the bitrate stays the same, compression on each frame is higher which results in degraded picture quality particularly with complex movement/subjects.
60FPS is definitely useful as you can play it back at 30FPS and have 2:1 slow motion, etc.
Have to give it to Apple for their app as their 240fps mode is great for slow motion. Having the sound in there is also neat. Makes my little Jack Russell's growl sound like a lion's roar!
I use Cinema FV-5 and was surprised to see no 1080 60P mode available. It may be locked in the firmware even though the hardware is capable of higher frame rates.

doitright said:
The difference is in your head.
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Hahahahahaha, to all those who tried it and said "OMG 60fps is soooooo smooth", I LOL @ you, because this guy has proof that you're imagining the difference.
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Lol at you for trying so hard. If you can't see the difference; better see a doctor.

doitright said:
Don't know why everybody says that goog camera is so bad. It works just as well as any other.
Also, lcamera's 60fps mode is limited to Hammerhead, and requires custom hacked blobs to enable. Won't do it on Shamu.
OP:
No 60fps because you won't get anything useful out of it. It'll just suck your storage dry faster.
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You mean 60fps is not better than 30fps? 60fps is not useful? Damn, that made me laugh so hard:silly:

cpufrost said:
It looks smoother but if the bitrate stays the same, compression on each frame is higher which results in degraded picture quality particularly with complex movement/subjects.
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This is incorrect. If you look at my camera screenshot on the last page you will clearly see that it allows for double the bitrate. 16 Mbps instead of 8.

GrayBoltWolf said:
This is incorrect. If you look at my camera screenshot on the last page you will clearly see that it allows for double the bitrate. 16 Mbps instead of 8.
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Yes what I said is true, if it stays the same. In your case it's not the same.
16Mbps is a bit low still, however.

cpufrost said:
Yes what I said is true, if it stays the same. In your case it's not the same.
16Mbps is a bit low still, however.
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For 1080/60 16 is just fine to upload to YouTube or something. I don't think many people plan on making movies with their phones.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG V20 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Still waiting to purchase this phone but found an "AMAZING" video shot with a V20 strapped on top of his head!
Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzX1VJ33daE

murph5525 said:
Still waiting to purchase this phone but found an "AMAZING" video shot with a V20 strapped on top of his head!
Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzX1VJ33daE
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Wow, talk about impressive.

Well, the shadow definitely confirms there's a phone on his head. That's seriously amazing to even consider doing that and it does look really good.

I see the wide lens and what he's doing (aside from the views) being amazing, but that quality is horrible. ?
Sent Via My LG V20

any ideas?
has anyone tried the slow-mo function on recording? when i activate that function the camera becomes way darker :silly:

joseguillen1994 said:
has anyone tried the slow-mo function on recording? when i activate that function the camera becomes way darker :silly:
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It's shooting at 120 fps! So the shutter speed is incredibly fast and you will need A LOT of light. This is standard with any slow-mo recording. You can try bumping up the ISO but the reality is, you will most likely be doing slow-mo only when you have sufficient light with a sensor this small.

CHH2 said:
It's shooting at 120 fps! So the shutter speed is incredibly fast and you will need A LOT of light. This is standard with any slow-mo recording. You can try bumping up the ISO but the reality is, you will most likely be doing slow-mo only when you have sufficient light with a sensor this small.
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Now that you are saying that. i remember that with my S5, it was happening the same, so you are 100% right! :good:

Ladies and Gents, please look into youtube for V20 videos. SOME SCENES clearly show a fine line in the middle of the video in most of what I saw.
This is NOT the only example out there, you gotta youtube for more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe7nyvwXT0
Trust me, I tried not to see it, but it is there.

Emerald Core said:
Ladies and Gents, please look into youtube for V20 videos. SOME SCENES clearly show a fine line in the middle of the video in most of what I saw.
This is NOT the only example out there, you gotta youtube for more.
Trust me, I tried not to see it, but it is there.
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None on my phone. Can you provide a time stamp which u see the artifact?

I took the V20 out to my son's baseball game today. Wasn't all that impressed. Maybe because I'm a noob, and have to learn about using the camera and video functions and capabilities of the device. My V20 was set at FHD 60, or aka, 1080/60fps. I was posted near 1st base. When you launch the camera, it goes to auto mode. When action would occur, I would hit the video button, and it would start recording. The footage came out very bright. It was a sunny day today with occasional cloud cover.
I won't compare this too my Note 4, or my Hero4 Black that I have been always using at the baseball games. I may have left the "AE-L" feature enabled, or I should have just been in manual video mode to begin with. I will pay attention to the settings next outing, and hopefully it's just user error the first time around!

Will post here too.
Low light footage sbot with Cinema 4K, 2K/200Mbs, edited in Adobe Premier.
youtu.be/iQcTSWLWAG0

Emerald Core said:
Ladies and Gents, please look into youtube for V20 videos. SOME SCENES clearly show a fine line in the middle of the video in most of what I saw.
This is NOT the only example out there, you gotta youtube for more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe7nyvwXT0
Trust me, I tried not to see it, but it is there.
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WTF

Unique sound quality and great picture in manual mode!
https://youtu.be/1z3SJuy5spk
https://youtu.be/EKoEaLrkuwc
https://youtu.be/ynLz4a0OMiw
https://youtu.be/yHnH-Wgvs5c

All shot on our beloved V20;
Part 1: https://youtu.be/mg4-K_MiHKI
Part 2: https://youtu.be/dJ5VjPwAs_Q

I have shot my short film on my LG V20. Please check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e-coqRsgRQ&t=3s
Thank you!

Awesome!!!
klassical said:
I have shot my short film on my LG V20. Please check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e-coqRsgRQ&t=3s
Thank you!
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Great work and great short story friend! Thumbs up

Optimusman said:
Great work and great short story friend! Thumbs up
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Thank you very much! Stay tuned for more films!

Question - in auto mode it has the possibility of doing 60 frames per second on video. If I go to manual video mode and make it do it's auto thing it dumps down the frames mostly to 50 fps and to make it go up you need more light and then it goes up, first it begins to push down iso until 50 then it will start effecting the FPS number. Why is that - why would it go down to 50 fps and not just down to 60 fps?
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Apparently it now goes to 60 frames by standard - no idea what why it changed and how - it correctly do 1/60 now and not 1/50 - maybe it was the update.