Ok, if any place, this is the place to ask.
I still have one of those dreakspark accounts with a dev account. What do I need to unlock and side load apps or 3rd party tools on my HTC 8X ?
Is there a Interop unlock process for WP8 or full unlock with Root tools is it too soon for this ? Is there any other "unlock" options floating around that teams are working on ? I really just want Advanced Config to work on my phone because I miss custom colors but, it should work, right ?
I would love to be able get started with my dev account, what do I need to do ? I do have a partition with Windows 8 x64 on it.....
Is there any thing I should be reading ?
Thanks in advance !
Install WP8 SDK, unlock with phone registration tool.
mcosmin222 said:
Install WP8 SDK, unlock with phone registration tool.
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Yea, thanks...
Is there any type of advanced unlock or will any of the WP7.5 tools like root tools work on Windows Phone 8 ? That is what my post is really about, is there a Interop unlock or full unlock yet ?
I don't think anyone has cracked WP8 yet for interop unlock and I have been following this forum for awhile. There isn't even custom ROMs yet.
As far as the WP8 SDK, be aware you need Windows 8 on your PC. It will not install on Windows 7
I upgraded my PC to Windows 8 so I could load the SDK and use my Dev Account to unlock. But all you can do is side load apps that do not need root or interop access...but I keep hoping. At this point I have yet to side load anything because my old WP7.5 side loads all need root/IU.
At least WP8 offers enough additional configurability to keep me somewhat satisfied but I still have my old Trophy.
LiFePo4 said:
I don't think anyone has cracked WP8 yet for interop unlock and I have been following this forum for awhile. There isn't even custom ROMs yet.
As far as the WP8 SDK, be aware you need Windows 8 on your PC. It will not install on Windows 7
I upgraded my PC to Windows 8 so I could load the SDK and use my Dev Account to unlock. But all you can do is side load apps that do not need root or interop access...but I keep hoping. At this point I have yet to side load anything because my old WP7.5 side loads all need root/IU.
At least WP8 offers enough additional configurability to keep me somewhat satisfied but I still have my old Trophy.
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Yea, I am dual booting with Windows 8, so I installed it and Dev unlocked but, the dreamspark account I have has a limit of 3 apps Wish at least there was a way around this right now...
Anyone play with any tools from HTC days? I even saw that HTC Connection Setup is available in the marketplace. Getting MAX unsigned apps would be great right now to hold me out till the tools and custom roms can come.
I just miss Advanced Config the most, I HATE limit the factory colors, I need my custom colors back....Is this too much to ask from Microsoft to create custom colors ?
BTW...I wish the SDK could be installed on Win7x64, I am not a Win8 fan right now...
I used my Trophy the other day after having the 8X for a few days, I just can't go back... I think I have to sell mine, the screen is just too small and not as pretty
I tried my Trophy again too and understand. I can't switch back. And no news on the sideload limit as that needs reg edit (but haven't thought about Connection Setup; no one is looking as far as I know).
If someone is working on cracking WP8 they are not saying much. It is pretty dead in the hacking section and WPH/Jaxbot isn't doing anything. Waiting....
P.S. If you have to use Win8 much get Stardock's Start8 and Decor8 apps ($5 each). You get a start button back and can set to boot right into the desktop. Decor8 let's you pick custom colors for your tiles and background! Just need a "Decor8" app for WP8.
Has there been ANY rumor or anything on a exploit for Windows Phone 8 ? I have been following every site I know of and I have not seen anything. It's been months and there has been nothing at all.
Are any of the major players even working on this or have they moved on to other phones ? It's normaly a little more when people are looking into it..
There is the problem of this security chip that checks both the kernel and the bootloader for authentic signatures. This chip is "hard coded" and can't be avoided at startup. Therefore, it is extremely difficult to make a rooted windows phone 8 OS boot on these devices. If either the bootloader or the kernel have been tampered with, said chip will restore them (sometimes even with complete device wipe), thus any modifications are very hard to do.
I have no doubt that the chip can be overridden somehow, but there is a long way till there, requires a lot of effort and the benefits are really not that big.
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There is the problem of this security chip that checks both the kernel and the bootloader for authentic signatures. This chip is "hard coded" and can't be avoided at startup. Therefore, it is extremely difficult to make a rooted windows phone 8 OS boot on these devices. If either the bootloader or the kernel have been tampered with, said chip will restore them (sometimes even with complete device wipe), thus any modifications are very hard to do.
I have no doubt that the chip can be overridden somehow, but there is a long way till there, requires a lot of effort and the benefits are really not that big.
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Oh, Crap....Dam, nothing easy huh ? I really hope someone can unlock this to a point, I would like to side load more, yea but, I am more interested in Advanced Config so I could have more colors... sick of the default colors on WP8...
Hi
I am thinking about paying the 99$ fee and was wondering if I can developer unlock my Samsung ativ s or a lumia 928?
and if I do can I sideload the recently pulled youtube xap onto my phone and for that matter maybe 7.x homebrew apps onto wp8?
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Hi
I am thinking about paying the 99$ fee and was wondering if I can developer unlock my Samsung ativ s or a lumia 928?
and if I do can I sideload the recently pulled youtube xap onto my phone and for that matter maybe 7.x homebrew apps onto wp8?
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I haven't looked into it much, but I believe that you can only sideload 3 individual applications onto it. All modern Xaps are encrypted, too, and we don't have any way to decrypt them, so even if you could get it you likely couldn't sideload it.
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I haven't looked into it much, but I believe that you can only sideload 3 individual applications onto it. All modern Xaps are encrypted, too, and we don't have any way to decrypt them, so even if you could get it you likely couldn't sideload it.
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well i was wanting to factory reset my ativ and unlock it and sideload the youtube xap because i inadvertently put too any apn apps on my ativ s to try and get internet sharing to work.
because of this every time i soft reset the phone it takes a solid 5 minutes or more to get the internet connection back cause off all the apns floating around in settings that i can't uninstall
i love version 1 of the Microsoft youtube app overhaul and don't want to give it up with a factory reset, i am also thinking about selling my ativ for the lack fo decent oem camera software and go with the lumia 928 but once again i want to get that youtube app back onto whatever phone im using
but like you said they are encrypted anyway which is bad to hear, sigh are they ever going to jail break wp8, i am languishing here without a custom rom, if they could somehow crack wp8 and my ativ s , then my ativ s could be a super phone with all of nokia and htc software installed too
sigh!
You could simply use another YouTube App like MetroTube. I still prefer it over Microsoft's now pulled App and you don't have to play around with Unlocks and what not...
I developer unlocked my HTC 8x a while ago, and I can tell you the following:
1. If you developer unlock you device for $99/yr, you can sideload as many apps as you want. The limitation of 3 only applies to student accounts.
2. Any xap from the Windows Phone store can be sideloaded, as long as it doesn't require Interop Unlock.
3. The Xap files are just specially packaged zip files, so you can edit them with a tool such as 7zip.
4. If you downloaded an xap from the Microsoft store, and then try to sideload it, it will fail, until you delete "WMAppPRHeader.xml" from the xap. This also will "break"
updates for the app as new ones come out in the store.
Hope that helps!
Can I:
1. Sideload 7.x homebrew caps?
2. Sideload the Microsoft YouTube app that was pulled? I have the xap, so I should delete that file you mentioned?
3. Do I use the side load program that you use on your desk top (I forgot the name) in the chevron wp7 days
Someone had told me offhand regarding the YouTube xap that it is encrypted and useless to try and side load anyway, is this true?
Thank you very much for your help!
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Sideloading WP7 apps will "work" except that most WP7 homebrew either requires Interop Unlock (which we don't have yet) or requires "root" privileges (which we don't have yet). So... not a lot of use.
GoodDayToDie said:
Sideloading WP7 apps will "work" except that most WP7 homebrew either requires Interop Unlock (which we don't have yet) or requires "root" privileges (which we don't have yet). So... not a lot of use.
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Do you think it will be easier to gain interop-unlock if the phone would already be dev-unlocked?
If this would be, i guess i would pay the 99$ to dev-unlock my Lumia 920, if it helps the community
I can't open Xap to remove "WMAppPRHeader.xml" (DRM protect)?
You have to change the xap with 7zip and it will turn into a zip file with additional files inside, I would like to know if I deleted "wmappprheaderxml" in Microsoft's ill fated YouTube app could I then sideload it?
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Absolutely no option to allow oem unlocking in settings, tried everything i could think of to enable through adb interface and it keeps telling me to enable unlocking. im very familiar with the boot loader unlock process for htc devices and know this model is unlockable. i thought maybe the unlocking option only comes with the payment for verizon phone service but that cant be true because ive unlocked my verizon desire 610 and 620 and theyre both black listed from verizon , i do not understand. is there an ota update that adds the unlocking option ? is there anyway to enable it through a different interface? this is driving me nuts. ive only found one other reference to this problem in all the webs search results but there are ten how to guides depicting how to enable dev settings, tick allow unlocking and type one line of code with pictures and links to htc with even more detailed instructions than the first set lol.
there is no movement on the Verizon 626.. any root guide out there doesn't match possible options.. there are a number of people here on it, myself included.. sit n be patient.. it sucks..
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Is there anyone for whom the OEM Unlock option in developer options is not grayed out?
So far from my research, it's always grayed out, so I'm trying to gather information about it, and see if there are any situations in which it is not grayed out.
Tested so far:
European Mate 20 Pro - Grayed out, so bootloader can't be unlocked with code.
Demo Mate 20 Pro - Grayed out, so bootloader can't be unlocked with code.
Chinese Mate 20 Pro - No such option, so bootloader can be unlocked successfully.
i thought it was huaweis new policy to not allow anyone to unlock the BL
Will the Mate 20 Pro sell in Southeast Asia to be grayed out too? Hopefully not, since I wont upgrade my Mate 10 Pro to this flagship if I cannot root the device (fully owned the device system).
Hmm this is a concern to me. As much as this device is amazing, root at the very least is important let alone custom roms! Hmm
**** this is a serious problem !! if they all start to block the bootloader is a real peoblema!
What do you guys root for? Genuine question, I'm sure you have valid use cases, I've just never had a need to.
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What do you guys root for? Genuine question, I'm sure you have valid use cases, I've just never had a need to.
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Macrodroid (for automation tasks etc.), system wide ad blocking (directly mod the hosts file without any battery draining app or vpn), titanium backup for app backups, uninstalling system apps/debloating, system app/user app themes (black, making most of that oled screen). Shortcutter, as app that adds loads more quick settings.
With magisk manager, custom modules such as vanced YouTube and the amazing viper4android a system wide equaliser. Some developers create custom performance/battery enhancement scripts that vastly improve stock performance. Plus some custom features roms have app ops which greatly allows app level permission.
Not to mention custom roms with additional features bringing to the user experience. But I'm fearful at present!
I'm awaiting the Mate 20 Pro arriving on Friday and listed my Pixel 2 XL for sale. I've messaged @topjohnwu who seemingly may be the only person who could help with making root possible. But with the bootloader unlock situation this may prove rather difficult. Especially given hearing about the greyed out OEM unlock option, but perhaps full retail releases will allow it, here's hoping anyways....
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Macrodroid (for automation tasks etc.), system wide ad blocking (directly mod the hosts file without any battery draining app or vpn), titanium backup for app backups, uninstalling system apps/debloating, system app/user app themes (black, making most of that oled screen). Shortcutter, as app that adds loads more quick settings.
With magisk manager, custom modules such as vanced YouTube and the amazing viper4android a system wide equaliser. Some developers create custom performance/battery enhancement scripts that vastly improve stock performance. Plus some custom features roms have app ops which greatly allows app level permission.
Not to mention custom roms with additional features bringing to the user experience. But I'm fearful at present!
I'm awaiting the Mate 20 Pro arriving on Friday and listed my Pixel 2 XL for sale. I've messaged @topjohnwu who seemingly may be the only person who could help with making root possible. But with the bootloader unlock situation this may prove rather difficult. Especially given hearing about the greyed out OEM unlock option, but perhaps full retail releases will allow it, here's hoping anyways....
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That was some great info man, well written, cant believe we are both coming to same phone from xl2, do u use aod all the yourself? And like double tap to wake the screen on pixie?
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That was some great info man, well written, cant believe we are both coming to same phone from xl2, do u use aod all the yourself? And like double tap to wake the screen on pixie?
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Thanks mate!
Nagh I'm not that fussed about AOD ill use the notification led, I like having that e.g. Red for missed call, green for WhatsApp etc and I don't use double tap to wake either
duraaraa said:
Is there anyone for whom the OEM Unlock option in developer options is not grayed out?
So far from my research, it's always grayed out, so I'm trying to gather information about it, and see if there are any situations in which it is not grayed out.
Tested so far:
European Mate 20 Pro - Grayed out, so bootloader can't be unlocked with code.
Demo Mate 20 Pro - Grayed out, so bootloader can't be unlocked with code.
Chinese Mate 20 Pro - No such option, so bootloader can be unlocked successfully.
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try with this solution!
You have to reset your device while the sim card is in the device , then in the setup you have to log in to your both google and samsung accounts , then wait 7 days , and it should appear , if it doesnt appearing simply use google to check how to fix the missing OEM Unlock option
I remember the days with the Xperia Z3, where the bootloader was also locked. Still it was possible to unlock it after someone found a way. We know that nothing is secure, so I hope for out great developers to fix this in the future!
Or do you think it will be simply imposssible without the Code?
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I remember the days with the Xperia Z3, where the bootloader was also locked. Still it was possible to unlock it after someone found a way. We know that nothing is secure, so I hope for out great developers to fix this in the future!
Or do you think it will be simply imposssible without the Code?
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See attached for my email conversation with Funky Huawei.
Seems that so long as we can check that setting then perhaps they can generate an unlock code with our IMEI number. I've used their service before for firmware flashing, they're reputable.
Just hope it's possible....
We can now offer bootloader unlock codes for all Huawei models (including recent models like P20, P20 Pro, Honor Play, and so on.)
These unlock codes can be provided for free to customers who purchase an unlimited pass from today.
See details here:
(https://twitter.com/FunkyHuawei/status/1050739731443544064?s=03)
So we would just need a hack that enables the tick in developer options.
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So we would just need a hack that enables the tick in developer options.
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I guess so yeah, but also I remain hopeful that perhaps retail devices (as opposed to the early release ones that people seem to have early) may have the option....
@BurningRain, you have a retail verison, can please check if you can tick/untick the OEM unlock option in the developer settings?
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Is there anyone for whom the OEM Unlock option in options is not grayed out?
So far from my research, it's always grayed out, so I'm trying to gather information about it, and see if there are any situations in which it is not grayed out.
Tested so far:
European Mate 20 Pro - Grayed out, so bootloader can't be unlocked with code.
Demo Mate 20 Pro - Grayed out, so bootloader can't be unlocked with code.
Chinese Mate 20 Pro - No such option, so bootloader can be unlocked successfully.
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On older huawei devices (Honor9, Honor10, HuaweiP20), I noticed after the device is totally erased (low level format, cache wiped and settings to factory defaults) : you had to connect to internet to get the OEM Unlock option to not be greyed out.
So maybe it will be enabled on huawei's server side in a few days...
ventu87 said:
try with this solution!
You have to reset your device while the sim card is in the device , then in the setup you have to log in to your both google and samsung accounts , then wait 7 days , and it should appear , if it doesnt appearing simply use google to check how to fix the missing OEM Unlock option
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I'm guessing you meant 'google playstore account' by 'samsung account'...
Did you enable it yourself on your Mate 20 Pro ? which cust variant ?
Interesting...
Just watched this video:
4 Reasons I SWITCHED to the Huawei Mate 20 Pro | The Tech Chap
And at 3:10 I noticed that the option (on his presumably prelease device, given he is from the UK but has a 2 pin charger and not UKL 3 pin) is greyed out and interestingly says "connect to the internet or contact your network provider" under the OEM unlock option - see attached screen snip
Hmm.....!
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Interesting...
Just watched this video:
4 Reasons I SWITCHED to the Huawei Mate 20 Pro | The Tech Chap
And at 3:10 I noticed that the option (on his presumably prelease device, given he is from the UK but has a 2 pin charger and not UKL 3 pin) is greyed out and interestingly says "connect to the internet or contact your network provider" under the OEM unlock option - see attached screen snip
Hmm.....!
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That's is an interesting one
Reuben_skelz92 said:
That's is an interesting one
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I guess all will be revealed Friday eh...!
cd993 said:
Interesting...
Just watched this video:
4 Reasons I SWITCHED to the Huawei Mate 20 Pro | The Tech Chap
And at 3:10 I noticed that the option (on his presumably prelease device, given he is from the UK but has a 2 pin charger and not UKL 3 pin) is greyed out and interestingly says "connect to the internet or contact your network provider" under the OEM unlock option - see attached screen snip
Hmm.....!
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Yes, I have the phone in Spain and I have the same message in oem unlock