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Sam Lewis of ATT called me shortly after this tweet was sent out. He advised me it is ultimately HTC that is responsible for the bootloader being locked. Not sure how much keeping his job may have swayed his response but we shall find out soon enough
We need to make them aware that we know about Carrier IQ and we need it unlocked right NOW!
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We need to make them aware that we know about Carrier IQ and we need it unlocked right NOW!
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I couldn't agree with you more. For now its frozen on my device. And will remain so until I can find a way to remove it.
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I couldn't agree with you more. For now its frozen on my device. And will remain so until I can find a way to remove it.
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I fully agree. I really like the Vivid but I feel with out root and s-off Im not using the phone to the fullest. I have 15 days left and if the above is not done by then, Ill be ordering a rocket (which I do not want to do...)
I now have a phone dialog going with ATT Customer Care because of a few tweets.
They implied that they expect me to relay that information back to the community and said they realize by talking to me they are talking to the community as a whole.
I have kept the situation updated HERE
Wow! We have incredible people here. I really feel like we're all making a difference!
Is this going too far? I mean yeah its a stretch on the truth but they lied to us so why not..
Chr0nicDreamz said:
Is this going too far? I mean yeah its a stretch on the truth but they lied to us so why not..
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the way I see it... a voice is a voice... even an angry voice.
HTC & AT&T need to hear as many voices as possible... go ahead and be angry... let them know...
I and others with direct lines of communication will be calm and reasonable and can point to the angry people... and say "see the natives are restless"
Looks like I should get a twitter account one of these years lol.
They don't give a crap if you contact them in an angry manner. Those of us complaining about this are a minority, most people that buy these phones don't know anything about this stuff. The majority have never heard of rooting, or unlocked bootloaders, or ciq. They may appear to be listening but if they really were action would have been taken already. I'm glad I'm not an overly paranoid person, I'd never be able to use a cellphone after learning about all of this info that is collected every day.
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They don't give a crap if you contact them in an angry manner. Those of us complaining about this are a minority, most people that buy these phones don't know anything about this stuff. The majority have never heard of rooting, or unlocked bootloaders, or ciq. They may appear to be listening but if they really were action would have been taken already. I'm glad I'm not an overly paranoid person, I'd never be able to use a cellphone after learning about all of this info that is collected every day.
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Your post looks exactly like the one I put on the "Why AT&T users should boycott" threadm, I'm glad someone shares my opinion lol. While a boycott does nothing because of us being the minority, spamming their social media can actually do something. The general public does have a Facebook or Twitter, so when they see people complaining every single day about the same stuff on HTC's page, that doesn't look good at all on HTC's part. It raises awareness as opposed to just quietly boycotting a device when we are such a small percentage.
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Ok everyone. I tricked you. Obviously from my posts yall know I love Android. However when you saw this title I bet you wanted to argue with me about it. Well guess what. I have a website I just launched where you can do just that. Informal Debates is a debate community and I desperately need people who want to join the site. I come here because I know you guys know your stuff (about Android at least) and I trust you guys. If you want to join, please do http://www.informaldebates.com
Oh and Toast, please forgive me for stepping out of line. I know this isn't specifically Android based but I figured this may help slow down some of the inter debating that goes on here. If you want to delete I understand don't blame you but this is my reasoning.
MOD EDIT: Moved this to off-topic for you, as it fits better in there than in one device forum
Interesting site, I hate debating with liberals though, unless there's a choke button haha.
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Interesting site, I hate debating with liberals though, unless there's a choke button haha.
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HA HA HA! awesome and agreed! It's not just politics though. Literally anything you want to debate or discuss you can. Phones included lol
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My face when I read the title.
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Interesting site, I hate debating with liberals though, unless there's a choke button haha.
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"with Liberty and justice for all"
Dredge said:
My face when I read the title.
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Exactly why I made it that title lol
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"with Liberty and justice for all"
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Which is why I made the site. Liberty to speak your mind.
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Which is why I made the site. Liberty to speak your mind.
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It's fun to debate but not about politics. Though I do love how people hate "liberals" which is what this country was founded on... smh.
I was reading through the site and someone made the case how the constitution is outdated because it allows criminals to have guns, I was like ugh, *facepalm* I know sooner or later im going to get sucked in to set the record strait.
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I was reading through the site and someone mentioned made the case how the constitution is outdated because it allows criminals to have guns, I was like ugh, *facepalm* I know sooner or later im going to get sucked in to set the record strait.
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Lol! I guess they forgot about the part where it allows law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves from these criminals
How can you be desperate for users if you just launched the site? I would study SEO and get effective keywords running through a sitemaps xml file to get crawled if you want users. After that's setup submit it into the search engines. Many of them.
Rick Astley. RULES!
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How can you be desperate for users if you just launched the site? I would study SEO and get effective keywords running through a sitemaps xml file to get crawled if you want users. After that's setup submit it into the search engines. Many of them.
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Not desperate but I just want people to use the site. I have seo measures in place, though I do need to set up meta tags for the dynamic pages. I just figure this is one way to get people interested. Besides even good seo takes a month to see any results.
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It's fun to debate but not about politics. Though I do love how people hate "liberals" which is what this country was founded on... smh.
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I find it fun to debate about anything including politics. But that's why you have the choice. And though you're technically correct the term liberal meant something completely different back then. I don't hate anyone. Except Nancy Pelosi
I aspect some fan boy flaming....
htc fan89 said:
I aspect some fan boy flaming....
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Fan boy? Who?
Lol gotta love these signatures with all the "My"'s in them.....I come from a generation where the "me,my,and I" guys are just douche bags....just a hint guys....no one likes people that have to announce that its all about "you"and only you.
Personally I don't give a shiat about what you do when I see your a me,my,and I guy.
im usually the one to start threads like this haha...glad to see someone else step up to the bitter plate
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like people who have to name every single damn spec about not only their current phone, but all of their past devices since they were 13 yrs old. AND not only which ROMs, kernels, modems, themes, etc. that they ran, but which ones they had Nandroid backups of as well........so informative!!!!
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I agree, in the past ten years or so, at least in the U.S. this has been one of the worst fads. Listen to hit music, its all about clubbin and the "imma do me" thing. Incredibly selfish, but to each his own i guess.
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......and....and...and...yeah, people who have to put how many Vibrants they own, what ROM they're on, modem they're on, kernel they're on, theme they're on, boot animation they're are using, shutdown animation they're are using, market they're using, apps they're are using, AND they even go as far as putting that they are using sounds with Linda's voice...AHGRRR!
You people are gonna start again on **** that annoys you on a forum? WTF! GO GET MARRIED AND HAVE SOME ****ING KIDS (like me) so you have REAL life **** that is annoying. Not trying to diss u guys but I also come from a generation were guys complaining about little **** like that are called *****es!
Tucson, AZ. Anytime baby.
I see the shortbus filling up.....special ed here we come! :-D
on a side note all....im not exactly "*****ing"....but more stating a fact.
btw with as many explicitives as you just used,married and have kids?....I sure hope you don't talk to your wife and children like that,but I must say it sure sounds like you talk this way on a regular basis :-(
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i'm a total hypocrite, and i believe that i am the standard by which all people should live their lives. i am currently seeking therapy, but until i find adequate treatment, i will continue to try and convince people of who i am, while at the same time contradicting the very image of myself that im trying to project.
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admitting it is the first step to recovery....
Would you prefer if I put your contact info in my sig instead of my own?
If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
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Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
MacaronyMax said:
Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
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And hence I limit my siggy to nonsensical information.
MacaronyMax said:
Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
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Like me?
WHY DO PPL CARE ANYWAY IS IT YOUR XDA ACCOUNT
Having too much info in your sig lets everybody know what you are using to judge the relevance of your posts.
umm what they said
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If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
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I'm sorry but I have to interject here. You think MY post was childish? Stop for a second and study your title; I can hear you now going "My My My"...not very befitting for an adult if you ask me.
Being a relatively new member, you have not had the time to really aquatint yourself with how things work around here. We have an off topic section for a reason. Things that do not pertain to a specific device or are just rants like these, do not belong in the device forums. It was not wrong of the moderator to move your post, he was doing his job.
Also, disrespecting a moderator will result in a temp ban so I advise you to be more considerate. kthks.
If you're anything like me, you probably always have to carry around at least the following things: A wallet, a smartphone, your keys and maybe some headphones.
And all of these take away there share of space, the keys are sharp, the wallet is either uncomfy or in your backpocket where it can be stolen easily, the headphones keep getting entangled, no matter how carefully you wrap them around your phone or whatever you do with them, and I have to work with these annoying items most of the day. What do you do against these ****ing annoying everyday problems? (Pardon my language)
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If you're anything like me, you probably always have to carry around at least the following things: A wallet, a smartphone, your keys and maybe some headphones.
And all of these take away there share of space, the keys are sharp, the wallet is either uncomfy or in your backpocket where it can be stolen easily, the headphones keep getting entangled, no matter how carefully you wrap them around your phone or whatever you do with them, and I have to work with these annoying items most of the day. What do you do against these ****ing annoying everyday problems? (Pardon my language)
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WTF is going on with people?
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There is already a "Things that annoy you" thread - and even if there wasn't there would be no justifiable reason to ever open a thread for something like this
If it's that much of a problem for you then just get a handbag - given your attitude it would probably make you come across as more manly
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WTF is going on with people?
There is already a "Things that annoy you" thread - and even if there wasn't there would be no justifiable reason to ever open a thread for something like this
If it's that much of a problem for you then just get a handbag - given your attitude it would probably make you come across as more manly
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This is ot. There usually isn't a justified reason to open a topic.
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This is ot. There usually isn't a justified reason to open a topic.
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"Off-Topic" means "Not to do with mobile phone development". It doesn't mean "Whatever you fancy posting for Sh1ts & Giggles" - and that is why you keep opening moronic threads that get filled with long-time members telling you to stop being a moron and then get closed by the good Mods on this forum.
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"Off-Topic" means "Not to do with mobile phone development". It doesn't mean "Whatever you fancy posting for Sh1ts & Giggles" - and that is why you keep opening moronic threads that get filled with long-time members telling you to stop being a moron and then get closed by the good Mods on this forum.
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Well true, tell that to everyone else. And I do regret post in nonsense here. But ot is usually misinterpreted. That's why we should have a spammerland forum.
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I wear my pockets inside out. All kids in the future do it.
Sent from your mom.
I use PocketManager 2.3.1, but it's not official yet so you'll have to sideload it. Most schools offer it for download around second grade or so.
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I use PocketManager 2.3.1, but it's not official yet so you'll have to sideload it. Most schools offer it for download around second grade or so.
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Nice playing along to the thread. Like the toaster thread.
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I keep my pockets full of locks. Here... have one.
I don't always make typos in memes but when I do it's because SwiftKey is a ****
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/your-right-to-resell-your-own-stuff-is-in-peril-2012-10-04
This includes phones
Whatever.
That article was horrible.
Sent from your mom.
unless it goes thru. Considering most of our phones etc are made abroad...
Besides, isnt this what some game companies are trying to put a stop to in regards to Gamestop etc reselling used games?
Wow, scaremonger much.......
Bulk buying and reselling to make huge profits = bad.
Selling your old crap = not an issue.
Both this thread and that article are bad and you should feel bad.
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So glad I don't live in America
Who are they gonna get to enforce that kind of stupid law?
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As there is no accepted law that forbids you I do not see why not, this case is because the person made 1.2 Million dollars profit and of course someone would want a piece of that cake I seriously doubt that someone would go after you fro 200$ of electronic that has parts in it from the entire globe. I would say the guy with the 1.2M could have spent a little bit more on a lawyer
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Who are they gonna get to enforce that kind of stupid law?
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Stupid people??
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
m1l4droid said:
We can call it "gifting", instead of selling. I will "gift"my old phone to a random person, and he will "gift" me x amount of money in return, to repay my gift. You can't outlaw gifts.
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HA indeed!! Also not meant to scare..just inform
Not really applies to normal sellers
Luckily. When we sell out used one, it's not related to this article.
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Luckily. When we sell out used one, it's not related to this article.
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I know.
This is a bad article and shame on the OP for posting it without checking something like this out. He/She is like the person that automatically forwards outrageous/inflammatory emails without checking them out.
There is a small amount of truth to the article though. This court ruling would only apply to copyrighted materials that were manufactured outside of the US AND the manufacturer did not give consent for the product to be shipped to, and sold in the US. Only after those conditions were met, then the mfg would then have to object to the second sale. This probably doesn't affect 99.9% of the goods you buy and already own.
ex. You buy something made overseas from Wal-Mart or the Verizon store or AT&T store.. This court case has no effect on that.
http://www.ipbrief.net/2012/06/12/first-sale-doctrine-kirtsaeng-v-john-wiley-sons/
actually I dont even read 99% of my emails since thats all the are
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Stupid people??
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Welcome to America. Enjoy your stay.
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I say, sirs, what is this goobledy-gop all about?
Alright, I just found that gif and wanted to use it. Who knew I'd only have to go to page 2 of OT to put it into action?
Every body in this world want to have some qualities in their girl friend..but out of these qualities, there is one thing that you desire the most in your GF ..I just started this thread to know different desires of men so not to delay...get start and share only one desire you want most in your love one in very few words
So I am sharing mine, i love to see cut short her hair upto her shoulders
Honesty
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The ability to think for herself.
Well, if she got along with my wife, that would definitely be a plus. :good:
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Well, if she got along with my wife, that would definitely be a plus. :good:
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^^This....his wife is a great judge of character!
The Merovingian said:
Well, if she got along with my wife, that would definitely be a plus. :good:
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Good thinking, but ultimately it would be 'minus' for you in the end of day.....may be when one of them came to know that the other is your wife and another came to know that other is your GF
Honestly, just as long as she doesn't NAG.
A pulse.
Integrity, charisma, intelligent, legs, breast, and ass
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A couple posts removed. Asking how to hack or spy on someone is not a topic for XDA.
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Being sweet, good listener, pretty and good hearted
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Every body in this world want to have some qualities in their girl friend..but out of these qualities, there is one thing that you desire the most in your GF ..I just started this thread to know different desires of men so not to delay...get start and share only one desire you want most in your love one in very few words
So I am sharing mine, i love to see cut short her hair upto her shoulders
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I love seeing your GF hair short also, kddding
What I want most in a GF, not to know my wife. Believe me it happens...
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#truestory
attention, love and loyalty
Probably first of all,
being a fair and equal person,
seriously, cannot stand on girls that are selfish or mean...
Then comes the rest, such as a lovely face or decent boobs
I wished if my girlfriend could be a person that embraces equality, but seems like she isn't.
She would choose her favorite thing, instead of me. Let's say she loves her job but it is as risky as James Bond, but I don't allow her to do it, she would probably say 'let's break up cuz you don't let me do it'. Well the reality is a more selfish one, but meh.
Embracing equality is a must I think.
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Embracing reality is a must I think.
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If she is as you said,
you should move on and look for someone else bud,
not easy, I understand, but you should...
to be real
The most important are wise and clever, if I have one.
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The most important are wise and clever, if I have one.
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Are you sure?
Would you date a chick that is working at CERN or something similar?
Being too clever may be misleading in a fair relationship for me...
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Are you sure?
Would you date a chick that is working at CERN or something similar?
Being too clever may be misleading in a fair relationship for me...
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I'm sure.
I would (not a chick, but a woman).
But what i mean by clever is a clever person who can figure out almost any situation, so she can solve most of the problem comes her way.