Saw a nice video on YouTube about a guy who mounted his Streak on his Harley using the home dock, and figured at the least, the dock would make a good starting point for a car installation. All other mounting options require that you not only plug in the power connector at the bottom of the Streak, but also a cable into the headphone jack to get audio out, and, in my understanding at least, with the dock you can just plug the Streak into it, and it should turn off the Streak's speakers and direct the output to the dock's audio-out connector(s). Since the dock has disappeared from Dell's website (at least in the US, still listed in the UK), can someone who has one tell me what type of audio out connectors it has? Don't suppose there's any way of getting a back-up camera to display on the Streak, eh?
Also, what sort of power connector does the home dock have? Something I can adapt to be powered by the car?
The 30 pin dock connector supports:
USB out
USB charging in (2.0A)
USB dock sense
USB-OTG in
HDMI out
Line out
It reroutes though hdmi/lineout by sensing what's plugged in.
Lineout is sensed by being docked, hdmi is sensed by being connected.
The dock has no active chips, it's merely traces that run from port to port.
The audio out is 3.5mm stereo. Get a 3.5mm to RCA stereo cable.
The power cable comes with the dock. It's a standard USB connector on one end, and a prorietary connection on the back of the dock.
You can connect power off of a 12v car adapter that you can plug a standard cable into. I got the adapter from RadioShack. They make a nice 2 Amp USB cigarette lighter adapter. Get the 2 Amp.
I've been running a home dock in my car for at least 6 months. It works like a champ. I used a piece of flat aluminum bent into an L to hold the dock and place pressure on the bottom portion of the tablet to create enough resistance so the tablet doesn't fly out. I used rubber feet I got from RadioShack placed on the L bracket so as not to scratch the tablet and provide the needed resistance.
Mounting the dock will vary from car to car. Getting the dock mounted and stable is the hardest part. Again you need to have enough resistance on the tablet when docked so that it doesn't go airborne when you take a hard corner or launch your car off the line.
I drive my car like I stole it, on a daily basis. I haven't had the tablet come out of the mount yet.
No way to wire in a back up camera. You'd have to bring the video in wireless somehow. It would be cool, but more trouble than it's worth IMHO. If you go for a back up cam and get it working well let us know.
Cool, just found one for $50 and $2 shipping. I've got a good bit of dash real estate on my Mountaineer, where a Kenwood 7" double-DIN touchscreen/nav is now installed. Figure there's room for the dock and a standard DIN HU behind where the tablet will sit.
Will it run dual-screen with the dock? I'd like to convert the HDMI out to run video to the rear monitor. I'm cool with it displaying the same video onscreen as the external monitor.
The hdmi out mirrors what's on the screen, but on the s7 it only outputs at 720p and not 1080p like other t2 tabs. I dont believe you can set it to anything but mirror.
Thinking about the camera, was wondering if some sort of wireless TCP/IP camera might work. I know there are apps to view them on android, the trick would be getting it networked to either the streak or my cell phone (which the streak will be wirelessly tethered to).
magicland said:
Thinking about the camera, was wondering if some sort of wireless TCP/IP camera might work. I know there are apps to view them on android, the trick would be getting it networked to either the streak or my cell phone (which the streak will be wirelessly tethered to).
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As I understand it the dock also has a mini USB host port. An OTG cable to a USB camera might work.
Finally got around to installing the dock in my Mountaineer. Just for a "proof of concept" trial I put in an old Kenwood single-DIN HU that I had lying around. Used 3M heavy duty "Velcro" on both the bottom of the dock and in the slot in the dash adapter (this one is from Metra, Scosche also makes one, but I don't know how well that will work).
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Streak is tethered to my cell, so I get internet access for nav, tune-in radio pro, Iheart radio, Google Music, Netflix, etc. Unit is powered by the OEM T-Mobile car adapter. No video out yet (and I was wondering if the line out audio cuts out if the HDMI is used or not). I've got the USB cable hooked up and running to the glove box for access, but I've got no use for it as yet.
Simple, easy hookup, but it looks pretty decent when the tablet is hooked up, and despite washboard roads and high speed sharp turns, it stays put and working. Now I just wish there was an app that would allow me to use the tablet as a bluetooth adapter for my phone, so I can place and answer calls...
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I've been buying a lot of 3rd party adapters for car / dock / headphones and most of them don't work since it's mostly mini usb instead of htc's dumb 11 pin mini usb.
I'm about to just pay for the overpriced docking kit from tmobile. But, before I do I wanted to know if anyone currently has one and if they like it?
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it's mostly mini usb instead of htc's dumb 11 pin mini usb.
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what's wrong with mini usb?
i use it all the time.
It turns out the 11 pin thing on the docking station is just as problematic. There are some complaints on the T-Mo forums, and here's what I posted there about my experience:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidHardware&thread.id=3919
I bought the docking station today, and unfortunately, it's true: the connection is only recognized as audio, not USB, and apparently those two are mutually exclusive. It looks pretty, but other than that, it frankly kinda sucks for claiming sync capability when there is clearly none. The packaging lies! Also, it needs a lot more weight and isn't friendly towards phone cases. So I would probably return it if I hadn't already taken it apart ...
Is there some way of kludging this thing to do what we want, maybe with existing parts or with some creative soldering?
I did a bit of searching around on the forums, and it seems that there are existing (and much, much cheaper) adaptors or cradles that bypass this problem by offering, instead of one 11pin EMU jack on the back, one USB and one (presumably audio only) EMU.
For example, there's this HTC multifunction audio adapter:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll146/fulin123456/mobile Accessories/originalHTC4in1.jpg
And the less complicated charging audio adapter:
http://www.truesupplier.com/images/D/HTCadapterok-07.jpg?1253845004593
And those who want it all in a docking station have options that combine 3.5 jack, 6 pin audio, and 5 pin USB:
http://cgi.ebay.com/US-SYNC-CRADLE-...ries?hash=item4148d5a416&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Apparently, with these connectors you can plug in the proprietary headset AND the USB, and it will charge and give you music at the same time. I'm guessing that when a headset is connected, the USB data function is disabled and only the charge gets through? If it is possible to split one cable coming out of the phone into USB/charging and EMU audio, then why can't they split it into USB/charging and 3.5mm?
It seems like they assumed that since the one port on the back was 11 pin, we would be able to get both sync and audio. But in fact, the 11 pins apparently only serve to add voltage to an audio connection rather than function as an audio/data/charging combo.
I looked carefully at all the connectors, and it occurred to me that the supplied USB data cable (with the phone) doesn't have the audio pins at all, and that the headset adapter, which is detected as audio, doesn't seem to have the data pins(or not very clearly). Meanwhile, the docking station has the pins and is detected as audio, even when no speakers or headset are connected. So I thought that maybe if I covered up the audio pins, then the phone would detect the cable as data. So I tried covering the audio pins on the docking station (where it connects to the phone) with plastic and then docking. Didn't work - no audio detected, but no USB detected either, although charging worked. nice try. So there must be something beyond the mere absence or presence of those audio pins that tells the phone when something is audio or data. By the way, I did try connecting an ordinary powered USB to the back of the station and then docking the phone: no data, still audio. Same thing covering up audio pins: no data, no audio, only charging.
Based on my reading of this post,
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-g1/4480-how-create-emu-3-5mm-headphone-jack-adaptor.html
it seems that these things are made so that that certain connections between the pins signal the detection as audio. Perhaps any cables with 11 pins are assumed by the phone to be audio, although they may still take advantage of the USB charging capability?
So, what would be the easiest way to turn the docking station in to something at least as capable as an audio/data adapter? (I have an idea:remove the guts of the docking station, buy the 4-in-1 adapter, and then somehow stick the phone connector through the now empty 3.5mm port and up through the top of the docking station, in which case I've paid $25 for a pretty plastic shell? xD)
Or maybe it would be totally not worth the trouble, just to be able to stand my phone up on a matching white pod when I can get more functions out of an ugly black box?
Don't exactly understand that post...but
I Just found a couple of eBay items:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300364672611#shId
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-Dock-Cradle-HotSync-Charger-for-HTC-Magic-G2-Google_W0QQitemZ160367139541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item2556a05ad5
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-Cradle-Battery-Charger-Data-Sync-for-HTC-Magic-G2_W0QQitemZ250515922651QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item3a53e99edb
Would these things be able to:
- Charge my phone via USB/AC
- Sync my phone via USB, or at least allow me to access my SD card from the computer?
Cheers
I have been debating getting one of these since day one and looked at it when I was in the tmo store the other day...
I can agree with you about buying 3rd party and not paying the premium but with the htc's pins you gotta be careful... I've been screwed too many times with that stupid thing and I'm pretty sure their still one of the only companies that havent released their pin sequence (hense why theirs not very many 3rd party htc items)
ebay has a few but the ones I saw were only a couple bucks cheaper and personally I would rather spend the 2 extra bucks and have the real thing not a Chinese knock off but from what Ive heard I wouldn't spend the $30 or whatever it is for something that only charges my phone...
I bought from this seller a couple months ago. It's the same one they sell in-store for half the price. I use it in my car for playing through my stereo so I haven't used it for syncing.
T-Mobile myTouch Docking Station - Black
Bought the oem car charger and dock love them both... On ebay for more then half the cost!!!
awdlexusis said:
Bought the oem car charger and dock love them both... On ebay for more then half the cost!!!
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Got the link for that???
I ended up buying this one : eBay
Works and all, it's perfect except for the fact that the battery slot at the back for charging an extra battery is useless for me and takes up extra room.
Xpire said:
Got the link for that???
I ended up buying this one : eBay
Works and all, it's perfect except for the fact that the battery slot at the back for charging an extra battery is useless for me and takes up extra room.
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yeah give me a minute...or search ebay for tmobile mytouch docking station, pulls right up!
Xpire said:
Got the link for that???
I ended up buying this one : eBay
Works and all, it's perfect except for the fact that the battery slot at the back for charging an extra battery is useless for me and takes up extra room.
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i use both this one with the extra battery charging slot and the tmobile one. this one is a straight out usb charger and the base makes a great night table stand for the phone because it is well balanced and when reaching to kill the alarm clock or unlocking to swipe down notification bar or answering call and using speakerphone the device doesn't tip over. i have a second oem battery kept full all the time and swap as needed. the tmobile one is more sleek in design and matches the sapphire's lines but the usb connection puts phone in headset mode. i keep this charger on my desk at work and the drawback is that i can't use speakerphone since it is always in headset mode. i don't need to pc sync ever so i can't give an opinion on that.
I have this dock right now, had the one linked above before, sprayed both white.
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This one is better IMO, I use speakerphone during calls when docked and this one doesn't need the power plug in to charge, everything is done via USB so only 1 cable.
Based on my experience, the following work:
generic USB keyboard
Logitech DiNovo Mini with included adapter
USB flash drive up to 32GB
some card readers except sandisk mobilemate (only takes one card at time)
The following doesn't work:
sandisk mobilemate (microsd/m2)
USB speaker (but you can supply power through USB host and connect through regular audio connection)
You can add your experience below.
USB Devices
plugged a CyberPower 4 port USB hub into usb port then plugged 2 Lexar 4gb drives in and it was able to see both drive and play movies from them.
USB Keyboard?
I have tried connecting a USB keyboard with no luck. Is this because of the type of port on the A7?
tested
No problem with Microsoft keyboards.
generic mouse half works.... since there is no pointer I can not tell if I'm pointing at something. The scroll wheel does work.
Gravies Gamepad Pro does not work.
I bought a off brand Wii remote to use as a controller for the a7 but it seems i need a Name brand remote... bummer huh? Anyone know of a fix for this?
USB Keyboard
I connected a wireless keyboard and was able to type in appropriate areas, however when I was navigating I could change the focused item but could not find a way to select a given item without actually touching the screen.
Has anyone discovered a way to accomplish this function?
Case with keyboard not working
I bought a case off Ebay. When I plug it into the Elocity A7, nothing happens. When I plug it into a WinXP PC, it detects the keyboard and it functions fine. Could this be a driver issue and if so where is a good place to find Android Drivers? I'm new to Android so please go easy on me
My favorite keyboard the happy hacking pro 2 works just fine
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HP Photosmart camera works fine. In the cameras options set USB mode to disk and it will read as a standard thumb drive.
This tablet is on sale right now
Does anyone know if I can connect my Western Digital 1TB Passport USB HDD to it? Or will I need to get a powered USB hub? I'm trying not to spend money on getting an Archos 101 (which apparently has the juice to power up a WD 1TB HDD). I primarily need a tablet for a media player in my vehicle, nothing else.. maybe have a shopping list on it for when I go grocery shopping?
So ya... can A7 handle 1TB external usb hard drive specifically: Western Digital My passport.
Edit: The A7 would be powered via cigarette lighter by the way.. it's not going to power my external hdd through battery, that's just silly.
Generc dell keybard works. Pelican afterglow ps3 controller does not.
Sandisk cruzer 4 gb usb drive works. Verbatim 2tb hdd causes reboot and white screen
Running Elocitymod 1.3
A7 accepts USB up to 64 GB. Maybe you can partition off 64 GB on your Passport??
Has anyone come across a bluetooth gamepad that works well with this tablet? I'm hoping to purchase something small and reasonably priced and use it to play a few old school classics via different emulators. Will a Wii remote work?
Connected a mini bluetooth keyboard without any problem,and im using a leather keyboard case without problems as well.
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Wii remotes do not work on the A7, sadly. I've tried all the pairing apps, they all either force close or immediately unpair when attempting to pair. I don't know enough about the issue to say if the problem is hardware (or lack thereof) related or software related so someone smarter than me will have to let us know if it will ever be possible.
On a side note to contribute to this conversation, I tried an HP USB keyboard and it works fine.
pejker said:
Has anyone come across a bluetooth gamepad that works well with this tablet? I'm hoping to purchase something small and reasonably priced and use it to play a few old school classics via different emulators. Will a Wii remote work?
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Thanks for the info...i just tried to pair the Wiimote and got the same results you did; I'm currently using Dexter's latest ROM. Using the touchscreen is horrendous even if elocity had multi-touch.
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I bought a case off Ebay. When I plug it into the Elocity A7, nothing happens. When I plug it into a WinXP PC, it detects the keyboard and it functions fine. Could this be a driver issue and if so where is a good place to find Android Drivers? I'm new to Android so please go easy on me
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Good news - bad news. I also bought a keyboard on ebay and got it to work. I had a hunch that the power supplied by the USB port on the elocity was marginal. I connected the keyboard through a powered USB hub and...it works. If the power supplied by the A7 is marginal, that would explain why some devices work and others don't and why the ebay keyboard worked for one but wouldn't work for others.
This could be confirmed by cutting up a USB cable and measuring the voltage and current supplied to the keyboard from the A7 and comparing it with a PC or powered hub. I didn't have the time or inclination to do that.
Unfortunately, this makes the case with keyboard a kludge, because you will need a powered hub to get it to work.
Not all the cases with keyboard have required something else in order for them to work sounds like a roll of the device to me lol.
Yeah, mine works fine.
USB Keyboard Works Great on the A7
I found this to USB Keyboard to work great with the elocity A7
Does Droid 3 support OTG like SGS2?
Wow no1 has replied...
The drivers and phone is capable like any other - Not officially, plugging devices into the phone will not work, nor windows wont give you full host access with out using mass storage mode.
There is a little application called Droidexplorer which works in a similar fashion to otg, but also allows access every part of the phone (root) when simply plugged in even when the phone is set to charge only mode.
Excellent app if this is what your looking for, look it up.
-smc
BUMP - Anyone?
heartaone said:
Does Droid 3 support OTG like SGS2?
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As above... Is it available? I would so love to use a mouse/bt keyboard with my D3+HDMI...
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Wrexem said:
As above... Is it available? I would so love to use a mouse/bt keyboard with my D3+HDMI...
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+1 re bump
Wait for webtop.
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Err, that Ubuntu thing I mean. Sorry.
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maybe trick
Maybe any trick USB OTG for droid 3 use application like q5 memory manager?
somone get it working=?
OTG works perfectly with a modded lapdock, with the keyboard, touchpad and 2 USB ports all interfacing via USB. The stock ROM even supports mounting and unmounting flash drives as shown by a screenshot in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25111643&postcount=29
But I could never get it working with an OTG adapter. That same OTG adapter works fine on my Touchpad so thats not the issue. Its possible that the Droid 3 needs +5v Vcc to be connected, because when its on the lapdock its charging as well as providing OTG. This is different from my Touchpad which refuses to charge when in OTG and doesn't even need Vcc connected.
ok, thanks
but i only wanne use that otg adapter with flashdrives ;/
Hi,
I use ME863 that could support OTG but Just need through an Usb hub
that has external power supply.
I think Droid 3 should be ok, too.
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i was able to get OTG working with a powered hub. last weekend i cracked open my hd dock for my droid 3 and added a $3 usb hub from monoprice.com. i now have 3 external usb ports that work flawlessly. $16 wireless keyboard/mouse combo from Gigabyte works like a charm from the couch with a 40" screen. hdmi+OTG+charge all work simultaneously.
the hdmi in the dock is just a pass-through so leave it alone. the wires for the usb port are labeled on the board. i crossed the brown(sense) with the bare ground. moved the r-w-g-b wires to there respective holes on the pcb for the hub. there are 3 empty holes on the pcb for the hub witch you can easily determine one is for power and the other 2 are ground (like there was an option for external power that didn't get soldered on the board). i ran wires from the power and ground holes i found on the hub to the original red and black holes on the dock pcb to piggy back power. i also relocated the led to a new hole in the front of the dock.
i also played around trying to get dock mode to work at the same time(if you actually want that). it seems if you only momentarily ground sence wire bur leave it hooked to the dock it will go back into dock mode but all devices that were initialized seem to keep working. you could in theory hold down a button after docking to initialize the usb accessories than let go to put it back into dock.
i also tried to find a way to get the audio out port to work (under the assumption it functioned like a usb sound card) but in the end i gave up as i cant think of an instance i would use it as the audio already feeds through the hdmi port. i would like to know if anyone gets it working though.
Got it working as well
Just wanted to say that I got it to work with a similar setup as kaiw1982.
I bought a powered usb hub and installing 2 apps to get mass storage support:
usb host controller for host support and paragon ntfs&HFS+ for ntfs support.
Running XT860 with Minimoto 1.7 and Maverick 4.0
Hope this helps
Droid3
TheRabbit2 said:
Just wanted to say that I got it to work with a similar setup as kaiw1982.
I bought a powered usb hub and installing 2 apps to get mass storage support:
usb host controller for host support and paragon ntfs&HFS+ for ntfs support.
Running XT860 with Minimoto 1.7 and Maverick 4.0
Hope this helps
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Hello,
I have a Droid3 and will be retiring it soon. I can use it as an XBMC media center IF I can get ethernet to work on it. My WIFI connections are NOT stable enough to broadcast live 1080p TV although SD TV does work.
Have either of you tested a USB-ETHERNET adapter with the droid3?
Thanks
NewJerseyNinja said:
Hello,
I have a Droid3 and will be retiring it soon. I can use it as an XBMC media center IF I can get ethernet to work on it. My WIFI connections are NOT stable enough to broadcast live 1080p TV although SD TV does work.
Have either of you tested a USB-ETHERNET adapter with the droid3?
Thanks
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I don't have one but I'd give it a low chance of working since support for USB devices on anything older than Android 3.x isn't that good. About the only things that work are mass storage devices like flash drivers and HID input devices like keyboards and mice.
I can confirm that the D3 supports otg, with or without a usb hub, but BOTH the phone and usb device must receive 5v from the same source.
OTG cable is also required due to the grounded ID pin.
I finally got around to ordering a proper OTG cable, I bought one like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009YPYORM
It works, some devices seemed to work okay without the hub, but best results are achieved using a hub. Then its just as reliable as USB support is when using a modded lapdock. Keyboard and mice work, mass storage devices like flash drives work, and surprisingly the Files app supports them and gives an eject option in the notification bar.
Hello, I am having an issue with connecting my new CC to a projector. It works fine on my home TV but when I take to a community location with a projector I can't get it to work. I get it to log into the WIFI and my CC app on my phone & Tablet recognize it but I can't get the projector to receive a stream from it.
Background on the projector. Brand New Epson projector Model # EX5220. Ceiling mounted. Apple TV connects to it just fine and streams without hesitation. Audio is split back at a sound booth and only Video is sent to the projector.
At first I just removed the Apple TV from the equation and put the CC in its place (had to use a HDMI coupler to connect it to the male end of the other HDMI cable) with no result. After some investigation I noted that there are a two different junction boxes that the signal is being run through. One is a switcher box that allows several different HDMI cables to connect to it and you choose which one you want to show. The other is a converter box (It splits the audio from the video, it sends the audio to our switch board and the video to the projector).
I then just plugged the CC into the switcher box in place of the cable that ran to the Apple TV with no result. Then I bypassed the Switcher box altogether and used the HDMI coupler to connect to the HDMI Cable that ran from the converter box to the switcher box with no success. Then I just plugged right into the converter box with the CC and still had no signal at the projector.
Even though it wouldn't separate the sound I wanted to see if the CC would at least send something to the projector so I bypassed the converter box altogether and connected (using the HDMI coupler) directly to the HDMI cable that went right into the projector and still received no signal whatsoever at the projector.
One other note regarding the Projector is that between it and the converter box there is probably somewhere around 50 feet or so of cable (I didn't set it up but I think it is CAT6 cable from what I'm told).
I never connected my CC right to the back of the projector (didn't have a ladder to reach that high) so I couldn't test if a direct connection would at least show video.
My two thoughts as to what the issue might be is:
1) length / type of cable causes degradation of signal from CC (even though it allows the Apple TV to send signal to projector). Possibly the CC doesn't have enough power to send the signal that far... not sure if that could be a legit issue here, so I might be reaching.
2) The CC doesn't like My HDMI coupler and thus the signal doesn't send.
I've attached pics below to show what I'm talking about. Since the AT works fine with the setup I feel that CC should too. Please give me any feed back you can and let me know if you need any other info.
Side note: I just bought the CC yesterday and this was my first test with it. I took it home and got it to work perfectly with my TV. I made sure it had power and it was right next to the WIFI and my Phone was within 3 feet of it the entire time. After I reconnected everything (The AT to the projector) I retested the AT and it worked fine with the same exact setup as before.
Thank you for any help you can provide!
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Hopefully these shots help. If this setup is incorrect or if you have a better solution please feel free to give suggestions, I need to figure this out. Thanks so much!
You didn't show it (so I could be wrong) but if I had to guess the issue lay in the HDMI to Cat6 Converter that may not be passing the proper handshaking the CCast needs.
Could even be an issue with HDCP not being supported which might stop the CCast from creating an output.
Not sure why a Cat6 cable would have an HDMI connector on it.... So perhaps I'm wrong in thinking you are using such a converter.
Cable length is also a very good candidate but the HDMI to Cat6 converter (if used) should negate that as it amplifies the signal and regenerates to proper levels on the other side of the Cat 6 (at least it should)
You tried everything (sounds like it anyway) except perhaps plugging into the box that has the Cat6 going to the projector.
Plugging directly into the cable probably wouldn't work and I'm not sure why it would have that HDMI connector (hence my above confusion)
If there is a box on one end of the cable that goes to the Projector, unless it is an amplifier there is probably also another box at the other end. Bypassing the first box would break the communication as it is likely doing something the end box needs to get the signal.
So I would try plugging into that box that has the Cat6 that goes to the Projector and not directly into the cable that goes to it.
If you tried that then I'm not sure what to try next other than directly plugging into the Projector and seeing if it is even capable of displaying a CCast at all.
Did you plug it into external power, or only into HDMI? Also did the light come on on the device when you plugged into the hdmi ? I have had mixed results with using adapters, but the power question isn't clear from op unless I missed it.
Yes I plugged into power. Yes the light did come on the cc, even when I used the coupler.
I only mentioned the cat6 because I was told that cat6 was run between the sound booth and the projector. Where exactly it transfers from hdmi to cat6 idk, I can't see that portion. I will look at it again tonight and investigate this. I will also attempt to connect directly into the projector to see if it recognizes the signal from cc.
Ok I just checked and the HDMI cable goes into the wall before it connects to the CAT6, so I can't connect to or observe the connection there. However at the projector there is an HDMI outlet that the HDMI cable is plugged iinto.
I told a couple pics, I'll post later.
I then connected the CC directly into the projector and it worked pperfectly. This is not a viable option normally because of two reasons.
1. It is a ceiling mount and it would to much of an inconvenience to climb up and down every time I needed to connect to the projector.
2. The sound is played through the projector and not the sound system. The sound is spit off at the sound booth in the converter box not at the projector.
I need to be able to plug the CC into that converter for this to be able to work properly.
Any other idea's or suggestions?
Thanks
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Ok I just checked and the HDMI cable goes into the wall before it connects to the CAT6, so I can't connect to or observe the connection there. However at the projector there is an HDMI outlet that the HDMI cable is plugged iinto.
I told a couple pics, I'll post later.
I then connected the CC directly into the projector and it worked pperfectly. This is not a viable option normally because of two reasons.
1. It is a ceiling mount and it would to much of an inconvenience to climb up and down every time I needed to connect to the projector.
2. The sound is played through the projector and not the sound system. The sound is spit off at the sound booth in the converter box not at the projector.
I need to be able to plug the CC into that converter for this to be able to work properly.
Any other idea's or suggestions?
Thanks
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Is the HDMI in the wall a cable plugged into a connector or just a cable coming through the wall?
If just a cable coming through, then you need to trace where that goes and plug into whatever it is plugged into to see if you get signal (Audio we can deal with later we just need to find out what is killing the video)
If the Tech is correct and there is an HDMI over Cat6 converter being used it could be an HDCP issue.
In either case something in the HDMI chain between the projector and the CCast is not sending a proper return signal the CCast needs.
Thanks so much.
Unfortunately I can't get to what the cable is connected to. It is a cable just go into the wall, it is in the wall or ceiling and I don't have access to it.
I'm not sure by what you mean when you say HDCP issue.
Also the Apple TV works perfectly over these connections. Does CC have different needs?
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Thanks so much.
Unfortunately I can't get to what the cable is connected to. It is a cable just go into the wall, it is in the wall or ceiling and I don't have access to it.
I'm not sure by what you mean when you say HDCP issue.
Also the Apple TV works perfectly over these connections. Does CC have different needs?
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HDCP stands for High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection. It's an anti Piracy system that uses encrypted Keys on both the content source (CCast in this case) and output device (projector). If the CCast does not see a proper HDCP output device it may not display a signal. This really shouldn't apply to the CCast Default screen but it might.
As for the difference between the AppleTv and CCast, I am not sure but what I do know is the CCast needs a return signal from the output device to know what screen mode to display. You have so many devices between the CCast and the Projector it sounds like it may not be getting that information.
And HDMI over Cat5 converters are the most usual culprit in these cases.
Thanks so much, do you know of another device out there that will allow me to Screencast or mirror in the way I need it to? Other than apple tv?
thanks so much
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Thanks so much, do you know of another device out there that will allow me to Screencast or mirror in the way I need it to? Other than apple tv?
thanks so much
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Well you could try a Miracast dongle...
But your question poses another....
Were you trying to mirror at the time you got no signal?
Of was you just plugging in and expecting to see the default CCast screen?
Cause when Mirroring the CCast uses the resolution of the Mobile device and perhaps your Projector does not support that?
I am going to assume thats not the issue and were merely plugging in the CCast before attempting to put it into Mirror mode.
Truth of the matter is they are better off removing the Cat6 converter as it really is only needed for very long cable runs and what you describe would probably work better by just running a long HDMI cable to the Projector.
An HDMI Amp in the line would even be better than the Cat5 Converter because there would be no delay in signal that happens when the Cat5 converter converts from one to the other.
The projector is about 50 feet or so from the converter box.
I can't add anything to the equipment that is already installed, I can only bring a casting device.
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The projector is about 50 feet or so from the converter box.
I can't add anything to the equipment that is already installed, I can only bring a casting device.
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I understand I'm just pointing out that whoever designed their system really over engineered it and added a ton of stuff they don't really need.
50Ft is not too long of a throw for a straight HDMI cable run.
And considering how they did things it really could be anything screwing with you and most likely something in the signal chain you can't see or get to.
SO unless you have a device with an HDMI output you are probably not going to get a signal.
Projectors often don't return correct EDID information. EDID specifies that resolutions/formats the device supports.
There are devices that plug in between and provide/override EDID information like Dr. HDMI and HDMI Detective but both units cost significantly more than the Chromecast itself.
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Projectors often don't return correct EDID information. EDID specifies that resolutions/formats the device supports.
There are devices that plug in between and provide/override EDID information like Dr. HDMI and HDMI Detective but both units cost significantly more than the Chromecast itself.
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Yes but (I think) in this case they get picture when directly connecting to the projector which suggests the projector is communicating properly but something in the signal path is killing the communication when he plugs in via their multiple converter box system...
Since they have bypassed everything except the Cat 6 Converter I have to believe that is the culprit.
Yesterday I received a Rocketek Dex station from amazon, I purchased it for 26.99 thought I would post on here because I think its pretty good.
small and cheap it can fit in your pocket dont need to buy that huge Samsung dex station for over $100 either.
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I also use this Bluetooth keyboard/mouse pad to use with the dex, It is one of best I found, because it has metal back very thin, and light. The metal back I never thought would be able to find on a keyboard/mouse like this.
1byone Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard with Built-in Multi-touch Touchpad, Touch Keyboard for Windows / Android Tablet / Galaxy Tabs / Smartphones, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VRC6D3S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nYXCAbGJ49S96
Agree. I am using it for some time now and have had no issues at all.... Works as Sammy's Dex.
Does it work for Dex? Because lots of the reviews online say no.
I have a KSWNG unit, which looks similar. It works great on my Nintendo Switch, but I am having some issues with it running Dex. It requires power to load Dex. Without power, it only does screen mirroring. When I use external power, my full USB port stops functioning. I can only use either/or.
Yes works with dex, turns on dex on note 8
Are you running stock Samsung firmware?
Is external power required for Dex on your unit?
Can you charge AND use USB while using Dex?
My Note 8 is using CRA9 Oreo, requires external power to turn on Dex (screen mirroring without), and adding power will disable the Full USB port.
So I can do screen mirroring with my keyboard/mouse, OR Dex using the phone as a touchpad.
I am on 7.1.1 I am not sure if it runs without external power.
It has 3 ports 1 usb c to charge 1 HDMI 1 usb
Then a male usb c to connect to the phone
I am asking if you can charge AND use the USB port for external mouse/keyboard.
All of the reviews I've seen/read say that the Rocketek only uses Dex without power, however I think Samsung is trying to kill off these 3rd party adapters by requiring Power during use, which my adapter disables the USB port.
Can you confirm you can run Dex while charging and using a USB mouse?
I just told you it has 3 ports one usb, one usb c, one HDMI, what else would you do with a usb c then to charge it, then a usb c male to plug into phone did you look at the pictures look at Amazon at all or the reviews you can answer your own question
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...C_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dex+note+8
I use this one. It's ridiculously tiny and well made; the USB C that plugs into the note 8 folds into the back of the hub. Works flawlessly with Samsung dex with and without power. I'm on Dr. KETAN'S N5 ROM. I use DEX MAX free app to allow all my apps to display full screen. Everything is perfect.
I have one too. It doesn't show the charging light, but it does in fact charge. I'm using a lightning charger. I also have a K400 hooked up and it works well. I have all 3 8 series phones and it works fine. For sure not as robust as the dock, but I keep mine I a case.
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Using it now. It is a fast charge. I have never used it with a "slow" USB wall wart.
Do any of these support ultrawide monitors (2560x1080)? I have the DeX Station connected to a LG Ultrawide display, and I end up with vertical black bands on both sides.
Or perhaps this is a software limitation, rather than hardware.
I believe it supports same as normal dex, so what ever the normal one can do, 4k I think is possible but could be wrong
It seems interesting. Is it possible to charge the phone while the dock is being used as Dex?
Does this still work? I heard Samsung updated it to no longer work with 3rd party stations.
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Does this still work? I heard Samsung updated it to no longer work with 3rd party stations.
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I'm on January security patch and just used my generic Dex yesterday, also another question above, it (fast) charges at same time when the unit is plugged into a fast charger.
krumbs said:
Do any of these support ultrawide monitors (2560x1080)? I have the DeX Station connected to a LG Ultrawide display, and I end up with vertical black bands on both sides.
Or perhaps this is a software limitation, rather than hardware.
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I have an LG ultrawide and have full screen in dex mode, Note running in high performance mode with whatever screen settings that is, I do get a pop up message about screen settings but it goes away and I have full screen
dogg94 said:
I'm on January security patch and just used my generic Dex yesterday, also another question above, it (fast) charges at same time when the unit is plugged into a fast charger.
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So how is it for you? Do you like it? Is it worth it to you? The whole experience I mean lol.
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I have an LG ultrawide and have full screen in dex mode, Note running in high performance mode with whatever screen settings that is, I do get a pop up message about screen settings but it goes away and I have full screen
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Can you post a picture of your Ultrawide using Dex in 21:9? Is it streched?
Hi guys, i'm going to order port dex support on amazon. but I heard Samsung updated (last patch oreo) in last month to no longer work with 3rd party stations. is it still working with your Note8 ? Looking forward your answer. Thanks.
trislr said:
Hi guys, i'm going to order port dex support on amazon. but I heard Samsung updated (last patch oreo) in last month to no longer work with 3rd party stations. is it still working with your Note8 ? Looking forward your answer. Thanks.
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Running a Note 8 with Oreo and have a generic USB-C to USB dock that I got off of amazon and Dex is working great. Even bought a usb-c extension cable for it (just came today) and it all works brilliantly.