Let me start by saying, Power + Home does not work. Yes, really. I know there are a dozen threads about Touchpads not turning on, and they all have "Hold power and home for 20s" as the reply. Please don't respond with "Hold Power and Home for 20s". I have tried it.
Background
I took my Touchpad with me on a road trip. I did not have an official car charger, but I had one rated at 1 amp. I used this charger with my Touchpad, and it said that it was not powerful enough (as expected). I figured I would let the Touchpad at least get some juice while it was not being used. The battery steadily drained over the next couple of days, to the point where the screen did not come on. I assumed this was because the Touchpad was completely drained.
Once I got to a location with an actual outlet I used the original Touchpad wall adapter and let it charge for a few hours. The screen still did not come on, and there was no response (sound/light/vibration) from any buttons. I let the Touchpad continue to charge over night with the same result.
The Touchpad has alpha 2 on it.
What I have done
I have tried:
Power + Home for 15s
Power + Home for 30s
Power + Home for 1min
Power + Vol Up for 15s
Power + Vol Up for 30s
Power + Vol Up for 1min
Power + Vol Up + Home for 15s
Power + Vol Up + Home for 30s
Power + Vol Up + Home for 1min
All of the above with and without the Touchpad being plugged in to the wall and PC.
Trying WebOS Doctor (does not recognize a device)
Trying novacom directly (does not recognize a device)
Letting the Touchpad charge for > 1 day and repeating all of the above
Letting the Touchpad sit on the Touchstone for > 1 day and repeating all of the above
Verifying that the AC adapter is secured properly and repeating all of the above
Changing the USB cable and repeating all of the above
Changing the AC adapter and repeating all of the above
Results
The only time I have gotten any indication that the Touchpad is actually doing something is when using Power + Vol Up (and Vol Down) with the Touchpad connected to the PC. Vol Up has the Touchpad recognize as Palm. Vol Down has the Touchpad recognize as QHSUB_DLOAD. If I have the Touchpad connected to the PC in one of these states, Power + Home will reset the device (and Windows will not recognize it until I use Power + Vol Up/Down again).
That is the only response I get from the Touchpad. Anything else I have tried results in nothing.
My current plan is to attempt to let the battery completely drain, and then charge it again. I was previously under the impression that my Touchpad was out of power, but the testing with Vol Up/Down has shown me otherwise. My hope is that losing all power will truly "reset" the device.
Does anyone have any advice on anything else I should try? Is there a way to recover the Touchpad via booting it as Palm or QHSUB_DLOAD?
Volume Up + Power while connected to PC, then run WebOS Doctor?
You may have done this, but have you tried pressing home first and then holding it and power together? I couldn't get mine to start by pressing power and then home, but when I held home first and then power it came right on. If you have done that then disregard this, but if not I hope it helps.
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Try power and Volume down. Hold for a minimum of 30 seconds before giving up. It has worked twice for me when all else failed.
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That was very thorough. Once my TP died completely. I plugged it in and it didn't do anything. When I held Power + hitting home 15 times, it would give mea low battery indicator.
I plugged it in and left it over night. By the morning it was on 100%.
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Volume Up + Power while connected to PC, then run WebOS Doctor?
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It may not have been clear since it came after the list, but I did try this. WebOS doctor does not recognize the device in any mode. I do not know if this is simply because I lack the necessary drivers when it is in one of the other device modes. On the off chance that I didn't I will try again when I get home.
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You may have done this, but have you tried pressing home first and then holding it and power together? I couldn't get mine to start by pressing power and then home, but when I held home first and then power it came right on. If you have done that then disregard this, but if not I hope it helps.
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I do believe I have tried this, but I will try again when I get home.
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Try power and Volume down. Hold for a minimum of 30 seconds before giving up. It has worked twice for me when all else failed.
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It is my fault for leaving it out, but I tried this after exhausting the other options.
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That was very thorough. Once my TP died completely. I plugged it in and it didn't do anything. When I held Power + hitting home 15 times, it would give mea low battery indicator.
I plugged it in and left it over night. By the morning it was on 100%.
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I really wanted to avoid the slew of "Hold power and press home!" comments and the followups telling me to hold it longer, hold volume, and all of the other normally recommended fixes. I know how to write a bug ticket or two. I'm also the type of guy who posts a followup with what actually fixes the problem (No "nm, fixed it" from me).
It sounds like my current plan of action is going to mimic what you did. I originally thought the Touchpad was getting no power, so I kept trying to charge it. Now I am waiting for it to lose all power, so I can repeat the process after the device (hopefully) resets. I'm not sure how long that will take since I cannot actually use the device to drain the battery.
Thanks for the responses. Some replies are better than no replies.
So i had a similar situation and tried everything you had mentioned and all the suggestions in the thread. Nothing. No power, completely dead. I even left it
overnight on the charger... nothing. For sure i thought I bricked it. Then, I read online that someone tried the following:
Press and hold Power + Volume Up and click the card (menu) button a thousand times.
Wow! It worked! The TP is alive! In actuality, it only took about 30-50 times (not a thousand) of pressing the menu button while holding power + volume up.
I then got the white USB icon in the middle of the screen and then pressed and held the power + menu button to reboot.
What I did find interesting though is the battery was almost discharged even after having it on the supplied charger (not touchstone) overnight.
Anyway, hope this resolves your issue as well.
No go with Home + Power, Power + Vol Down, Power + Tapping Home
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No go with Home + Power, Power + Vol Down, Power + clicking Home
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Just making sure you read it right since you didn't list it above.
Power + volume up + clicking home button repeatedly.
All 3, same time. Just trying to help.
^ worked for me..thanks
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Well this is a really strange one...
Touchpad was completely non-responsive, I'd tried everything above about 5 times and it just wasn't showing any signs of life. I have left it charging all day today.
Assuming it was completely dead, I sat it down. 5 minutes later, it inexplicably just started booting up.
Wish I knew what I did, if anything to make it boot.
I am having the same issue but what got me there was trying to restore my Touchpad via WebOs Dr. It would restore to like 60% or 80% and then say we were unable to reset your device. It kept failing and no ROM was on my the device anymore. When I hold Power+Vol Up+ Home I can hear my PC detect it but that is all it does.
When I get home tonight I am going to try some of the things in this thread.
But what if I cannot get it into recovery? I read that it is near impossible to brick a Touchpad. How can I still recover without getting into recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394061
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I am having the same issue but what got me there was trying to restore my Touchpad via WebOs Dr. It would restore to like 60% or 80% and then say we were unable to reset your device. It kept failing and no ROM was on my the device anymore. When I hold Power+Vol Up+ Home I can hear my PC detect it but that is all it does.
When I get home tonight I am going to try some of the things in this thread.
But what if I cannot get it into recovery? I read that it is near impossible to brick a Touchpad. How can I still recover without getting into recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394061
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not near impossible. I actually bricked mine and had to send it back for RMA.
it got to the point where the hp screen will show, and webos doctor will detect it, but it'll fail when trying to reinstall at about the same percentage as you (maybe less).
menting said:
not near impossible. I actually bricked mine and had to send it back for RMA.
it got to the point where the hp screen will show, and webos doctor will detect it, but it'll fail when trying to reinstall at about the same percentage as you (maybe less).
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Well I installed Android uninstalled it. Then installed it again and forgot mboot then uninstalled it. So I belive I am back to stock but I wanted to upgrade to 3.0.4 then install Alpha 3.5 as I has having problems with the Touchpad rebooting in both Android and WebOS.
So when do I know if it is bricked. And what do I say to customer support to get it fixed? I just bought the Referbed ones off ebay the other day.
Here's an update...
No luck with anything so far. I caved and decided to take the Touchpad apart to disconnect the battery. I did this and still no screen response. The only changes have been it's a bit more difficult to get it into Palm mode (if it does at all), and now it seems that I can get into QHUSB mode just by repeatedly pressing the vol- button (no need to hold anything else). I do not know if the QHUSB thing was like that before disassembly, or if it is a result of me mucking around.
Unless anyone has any great ideas it looks like I will have to hope HP fixes it in order to tell me it is out of warranty for having Android.
If you send it to Hp and If they can't power it on, I'd say they would definitely replace it. Problem is, I doubt they have any more TP's in stock. Not sure how the warranty would work now being that its a discontinued product.
Hopefully after toying with it enough you'll figure it out and get it powered.
Mine is stuck in download mode too. Still no success.
Here's my experience so far.
Black screen.
When connected to PC :
Home + Vol UP - Device Manager shows PALM (with yellow exclamation) - no driver found.
Vol Down (no need to press home or power) - Device Manager shows QHSUSB_DLOAD (with yellow exclamation) - no driver found.
WebOS Doctor fails to detect device (palm ! in device manager)
I tried forcing novacom drivers on the Palm device (both novacom and novacom-bootie) and then running WebOS Doctor, still refuses to enable next button.
Tried connecting with novaterm, cannot find device. (both novacom and bootie driver).
Power + Home for 15 - 20 secs always resets and clears device from device manager.
I installed QHSUSB Drivers.
now when I Vol Down it installs as a com port (Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008).
I installed QPST_2.7.323 and am able to see the device as Q/QPC-XXX - ESN=*Download* - Phone Number=*Download* - Banner=*Download*.
I tried resetting the device with QPST, fails to complete the command.
I think I need a new boot.hex to flash to the TP, or a way to force it to charge (if that is the problem).
My Touchpad was low on power when I put it away in the car while on a road trip. I plugged it in to the wall the next day when it wouldn't turn on. After charging overnight, it still refused to power on. That's when I started combing the web for possible solutions.
Please stop posting irrational solutions, such as Power + tap home 5,000,000 times as the few times this did work for others, it was merely coincidence, and power + home would have worked also.
Any rational solutions are welcome.
I may just send it in for warranty. Although I bet that at HP, they will just hook it up to a machine with "special" drivers and re-flash it with Web-OS. I wish they would just let me do the repair myself with the appropriate files.
Who knows, maybe it is a hardware issue, but I doubt it.
I'm having the same problems too. What happened on mine is that my webOS was crashing doing random things like watching videos so I figured I'd just reflash the whole thing. I rebooted and went into the webOS recovery and that's when I think I bricked it. All I got was a USB cable symbol and the touchpad was unresponsive. I couldn't make it do anything and I tried all the appropriate button holding combinations and so I let the power run out over night.
Now when I plug it into the wall all I get is a low battery charging symbol. If I hold the home+power button down the screen will turn off after about 20-30 seconds of holding it down. But when I try to boot into recovery by holding the power+volume up buttons, all I get is the same low battery charging symbol. I'll add that I have had it charging for most of the morning so I don't think it is low battery still. And when I unplug it from the wall I get a symbol of two pronged plug that shows for about 5 seconds and then disappears.
Now when I plug it into the computer, I get the low battery charging symbol for a quick second and then it flashes to the message telling me "To reliably charge, use the cable and power adapter that came with your device" in 5 different languages. When I run webOS doctor I get to the screen where you connect your phone to the usb but it doesn't recognize anything and doesn't let me click next. I was able to have my computer recognize the power+volumedown button as the weird Qhusab thing but my computer said it couldn't find any drivers for it. Now I am not able to reproduce that.
I'm not sure what else to try so if anyone has any suggestions, that would be great. Otherwise I'm going to have to try my luck with HP support.
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I'm having the same problems too. What happened on mine is that my webOS was crashing doing random things like watching videos so I figured I'd just reflash the whole thing. I rebooted and went into the webOS recovery and that's when I think I bricked it. All I got was a USB cable symbol and the touchpad was unresponsive. I couldn't make it do anything and I tried all the appropriate button holding combinations and so I let the power run out over night.
Now when I plug it into the wall all I get is a low battery charging symbol. If I hold the home+power button down the screen will turn off after about 20-30 seconds of holding it down. But when I try to boot into recovery by holding the power+volume up buttons, all I get is the same low battery charging symbol. I'll add that I have had it charging for most of the morning so I don't think it is low battery still. And when I unplug it from the wall I get a symbol of two pronged plug that shows for about 5 seconds and then disappears.
Now when I plug it into the computer, I get the low battery charging symbol for a quick second and then it flashes to the message telling me "To reliably charge, use the cable and power adapter that came with your device" in 5 different languages. When I run webOS doctor I get to the screen where you connect your phone to the usb but it doesn't recognize anything and doesn't let me click next. I was able to have my computer recognize the power+volumedown button as the weird Qhusab thing but my computer said it couldn't find any drivers for it. Now I am not able to reproduce that.
I'm not sure what else to try so if anyone has any suggestions, that would be great. Otherwise I'm going to have to try my luck with HP support.
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Having the EXACT same problem....anyone have any solutions to this? WHy is this happening?
It's a long shot, but it might help if you are getting to the USB symbol on the Touchpad .
I spent hours trying to connect with no luck with the Touch pad in that state. I rebooted my PC and it connected to the TP right away. (I was using a Win 7 64 bit PC.)
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I recently installed CM7 nightly 12 and it's stuck at this screen. I'm using the stock charger. I've tried plugging it into my computer too.. no luck. Is there anything else to try? Am I screwed?
this sounds like something that was happening to me yesterday. i finally got it to charge by making sure it was completely off. i finally realized that even though the screen was dark it wasn't off, so it never charged (i think it was just recycling the charge enough to keep it on). if you look at it in a dark enough light you can see the screen is still on (backlit).
so plug it in, i would suggest using the wall charger. this usually makes it turn on (at least mine did), once it does, hold the power button until its off, no backlight is on. hope this makes sense and helps out a little
There's many others having this problem (me, on my friends nook, one of them). Hold down the Power button for a long period of time (I heard it's 10 seconds, but someone said they had to hold it for 30) and it will do a hard reset. At that point, try to turn it on again normally. If it doesn't turn on normally, plug it in (using the uSB cable that came with it (that is very important) and into the wall with the provided adapter), wait 30 minutes, and try again. It seems that very few (I don't know if i've actually read of any) who had this problem actually had to return the nook. When it happened to me with my bro-in-laws, he just hed the power button cause he was mad and it turned on, it hasn't happened to him since
Finally started working. I tried holding the power down for awhile with no luck.. Left it charging overnight and tried holding power again and it worked!
NOTE - I added this post here thinking the CM9 experts could help. I then realized it should be in the Q&A section. If this does not belong here, I ask a moderator to please delete it.
I have been running CM9 nighties for some time now with no issues on my 16GB US WiFi only Touchpad. I installed TWRP and after some time decided to remove it and just use CWM. After trying several things from the posts (which would not work) I decided to remove CM9 completely then reinstall. This is where I got into trouble...
I loaded all necessary CM9 files in the cminstall folder on the Touchpad. I successfully ran ACMEUninstaller and got back to the WebOS language selection (i.e. the initial WebOS screen from factory). Instead of logging into WebOs (felt there was no-need since I never use it), I put the unit in Download mode (vol down + power). I then ran ACMEInstaller2. I received an error (text on the black touchpad screen which I assume is the bootloader) saying the needed files were not installed and something like "remove the wall". I thought I would reboot the unit and now log into WebOS and reinstall the CM9 files (thinking I made a typo when loading them). Now I cannot get the Touchpad to reboot - totally black and even when connected to the PC I dont get the USB connection sound.
Does anyone know if there is a hardware method to bring the unit back (maybe a different sequence of button presses or shorting a pin on the USB connector)? I have tried home+vol up+power, home+vol down + power, home + power, and of course power only and home only. Each combination was held for 30 seconds and then again for a minute and with power connected, PC connected, and nothing connected to the USB port.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Resolution: In a post I saw dated May of 2012, the user indicated HP was still honoring their warranty. I contacted HP via their Chat service, after giving them my model and serial number, I was told I had three weeks remaining on my warranty. HP sent me the return box with authorization and in a week I received (what seems to be) my exact Touchpad... only now it booted just fine. I have since reinstalled ICS and am running fine. Thanks to all who responded. I wanted to share this as I am extremely impressed with HP's warranty service (no questions were asked if I had rooted the device, where I bought the device, etc).
I remember this happened on my brothers and what it was is that the battery was completely dead. I believe it has a backup that needs to charge before the main one. That's the only time I have personally seen this happen. Perhaps if you leave it on the charger for a while it will boot and u can use web os doctor to get it to stock.
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chozyn said:
I remember this happened on my brothers and what it was is that the battery was completely dead. I believe it has a backup that needs to charge before the main one. That's the only time I have personally seen this happen. Perhaps if you leave it on the charger for a while it will boot and u can use web os doctor to get it to stock.
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Thanks, I let it charge all night then tried it this morning (as described not just powering it on). Of course, with only a black screen I can't tell what the charge is. I have checked the cable and am now using a different power supply in case that had failed. I think because this happened during the removal/install process I scrogged something in the bootloader?
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Thanks, I let it charge all night then tried it this morning (as described not just powering it on). Of course, with only a black screen I can't tell what the charge is. I have checked the cable and am now using a different power supply in case that had failed. I think because this happened during the removal/install process I scrogged something in the bootloader?
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It's a good idea to use only stock cable and charger.
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enmriley said:
Thanks, I let it charge all night then tried it this morning (as described not just powering it on). Of course, with only a black screen I can't tell what the charge is. I have checked the cable and am now using a different power supply in case that had failed. I think because this happened during the removal/install process I scrogged something in the bootloader?
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Are you able to get into download mode at all?
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Are you able to get into download mode at all?
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No, totally black device. I was hoping at least I'd get the USB connection on my PC, but not even that.
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No, totally black device. I was hoping at least I'd get the USB connection on my PC, but not even that.
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This happened once to my TP when I first put CM7 on the device a while back. I woke up one morning, forgot to plug it in overnight and it had died. No response to any charger, I was getting worried but then I found a solution. With it plugged in, hold the power button and home button down together for 15 to 30 seconds. It was that or hold the power button down and keep pressing the home key over and over. Not 100% sure, but it came back to life and I remember it took me a couple tries. Try holding both down simultaneously for 30 seconds or a minute, if that doesn't work, push and hold power first then home right after and hold both for 30 seconds.
Okay.... hard reset has been a life saver for me. Hold the home button down, then press and hold the power button, so you will be pressing them at the same time. Keep holding them till you see the HP splash screen, it may take a few min and seem like nothing is happening. I thought I fried mine the first day I got it, but this worked for me!
Good luck!
And, if you decide that does not work for you there is such a thing as the WebOS doctor which will get you back to stock. Link here: http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover?wasRedirected=true
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Okay.... hard reset has been a life saver for me. Hold the home button down, then press and hold the power button, so you will be pressing them at the same time. Keep holding them till you see the HP splash screen, it may take a few min and seem like nothing is happening. I thought I fried mine the first day I got it, but this worked for me!
Good luck!
And, if you decide that does not work for you there is such a thing as the WebOS doctor which will get you back to stock. Link here: http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover?wasRedirected=true
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This post should do the trick for you....just press the power and home buttons at the same time, hold them down for about 30 seconds until you see the HP logo on the screen then release them...good luck!!!:good:
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This post should do the trick for you....just press the power and home buttons at the same time, hold them down for about 30 seconds until you see the HP logo on the screen then release them...good luck!!!:good:
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Nope... As stated in the OP, "I have tried home+vol up+power, home+vol down + power, home + power, and of course power only and home only. Each combination was held for 30 seconds and then again for a minute and with power connected, PC connected, and nothing connected to the USB port."
I need to know if ACME Installer is doing anything in the Bootloader. I have flashed and reflashed CM7, CM9, and multiple ROMs. Even uninstalled CM all together when I went from CM7 to CM9. I am familiar with getting into Download Mode and the hard reset (which apparently isn't solving this issue).
I appreciate the feedback, just hoping someone familiar with the Bootloader and Touchpad partitions can help out.
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Nope... As stated in the OP, "I have tried home+vol up+power, home+vol down + power, home + power, and of course power only and home only. Each combination was held for 30 seconds and then again for a minute and with power connected, PC connected, and nothing connected to the USB port."
I need to know if ACME Installer is doing anything in the Bootloader. I have flashed and reflashed CM7, CM9, and multiple ROMs. Even uninstalled CM all together when I went from CM7 to CM9. I am familiar with getting into Download Mode and the hard reset (which apparently isn't solving this issue).
I appreciate the feedback, just hoping someone familiar with the Bootloader and Touchpad partitions can help out.
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If the battery was low when you got into this state then it could be that there is not enough power to even let the charging circuits work properly. WebOS has better protection against getting into this fix.
I experienced this once and the trick that fixed it for me was to connect the standard micro USB to the Touchpad and use the standard HP charger unit. Then repeatedly remove the big USB from the charger, wait about 5 seconds then plug it in, wait about 10 seconds and repeat the cycle. After about twenty goes I was rewarded with the battery low icon and it started charging again. I think the theory behind this trick is that when you first plug the power in the battery gets a bit of charge before the circuits kick in, detect very low battery and stop the charging cycle. Doing it enough times gets enough charge into the battery to kick start proper charging.
Now I am not saying this will fix your problem but it might be worth giving it a go.
To prevent myself ever getting into this state again indavertently I now have Tasker set up to shutdown the whole device if the battery level drops below 8%.
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If the battery was low when you got into this state then it could be that there is not enough power to even let the charging circuits work properly. WebOS has better protection against getting into this fix.
I experienced this once and the trick that fixed it for me was to connect the standard micro USB to the Touchpad and use the standard HP charger unit. Then repeatedly remove the big USB from the charger, wait about 5 seconds then plug it in, wait about 10 seconds and repeat the cycle. After about twenty goes I was rewarded with the battery low icon and it started charging again. I think the theory behind this trick is that when you first plug the power in the battery gets a bit of charge before the circuits kick in, detect very low battery and stop the charging cycle. Doing it enough times gets enough charge into the battery to kick start proper charging.
Now I am not saying this will fix your problem but it might be worth giving it a go.
To prevent myself ever getting into this state again indavertently I now have Tasker set up to shutdown the whole device if the battery level drops below 8%.
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To prevent myself or more importantly my daughters tablet ever having this problem I have now purchased Tasker as recommend by yourself and others. But cannot yet figure out how to setup an automatic shutdown, if you have the time could you possibly advise how to do it . I have read the guide but am struggling any help would be appreciated.
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To prevent myself or more importantly my daughters tablet ever having this problem I have now purchased Tasker as recommend by yourself and others. But cannot yet figure out how to setup an automatic shutdown, if you have the time could you possibly advise how to do it . I have read the guide but am struggling any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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In Tasker add a New profile and give it a name like Battery_Low
Choose State and then Power for the profile.
In Power choose Battery level and set From to 0 and To to say 8%
Set New Task and do Add give it a name like Shutdown and then pick the Misc category
Choose Reboot and set Reboot type to Shutdown
All done. When battery level drops to 8% or below then Tasker will shut the tablet down. Note it will do this without warning. I think one could probably arrange a pop up warning first but I preferred to keep it simple.
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If the battery was low when you got into this state then it could be that there is not enough power to even let the charging circuits work properly. WebOS has better protection against getting into this fix.
I experienced this once and the trick that fixed it for me was to connect the standard micro USB to the Touchpad and use the standard HP charger unit. Then repeatedly remove the big USB from the charger, wait about 5 seconds then plug it in, wait about 10 seconds and repeat the cycle. After about twenty goes I was rewarded with the battery low icon and it started charging again. I think the theory behind this trick is that when you first plug the power in the battery gets a bit of charge before the circuits kick in, detect very low battery and stop the charging cycle. Doing it enough times gets enough charge into the battery to kick start proper charging.
Now I am not saying this will fix your problem but it might be worth giving it a go.
To prevent myself ever getting into this state again indavertently I now have Tasker set up to shutdown the whole device if the battery level drops below 8%.
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I have tried this since your post - thanks. No luck, but will continue to try. I found a post online with disassembly instructions. I think I may try pulling the battery. Looks rather easy... with the right tools.
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I have tried this since your post - thanks. No luck, but will continue to try. I found a post online with disassembly instructions. I think I may try pulling the battery. Looks rather easy... with the right tools.
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The only way I know is to put it on a Touchstone and after an hour or so it Will come back to life. All thanks to Reverand KYLE. His site is well worth checking out.
Hi everyone!
4 days ago i washed my phone for about 10 seconds, phone worked normally. After 1 hour i saw water went into both front and back camera. I got out all flaps and after some hours cameras were functional again. After even more hours buttons started to act weird. Sometimes power button wasn't working, sometimes volume up was acting like power button and so on. I tried to restart the phone, sometimes it went into safe mode(probably volume button was pressed by itself). Finally I couldn't start the phone at all(perhaps the power button stopped working at all).
After that i calmed down and put my phone into rice(hoping that would absorb water if any). After 24 hours i had no luck. When i had connected my phone to computer, the led was red, phone vibrated 3 times and then again and again.
Next step was to open the phone( removing the back with a hairdryer), took out the battery and trying to dry the phone with hairdryer. Still no succes. When connecting to PC and start flashtool, my phone wasn't recognised. I installed Sony Update Service (SUS) and then when i connected my phone i heard that sound you often hear when connecting a new device to an USB port. Now my phone is seen by flashtool, but it's always in fastbootmode. I even flashed CWM and it worked.
The problem is that it seems volume up is pressed always so i can't enter in flashmode to flash 4.4.2, it always goes into fastboot.
When on battery the phone is dead at all. Still when i try to charge the phone, it starts, displays Sony logo then shows that it's charging (at first that battery was empty but after 2 hours it got full charged). If i press power button it shutdown.
To resume, when on battery nothing happens( the battery could be dead). When plugged to wall charger the phone starts charging( so battery could work). Power button does nothing at all when on battery, but works when phone is charging or when connected to PC in fastboot.
If anyone had any idea what I could do I would be very appreciative. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask me.Thank you very much for your support!
bavarezul13 said:
Hi everyone!
4 days ago i washed my phone for about 10 seconds, phone worked normally. After 1 hour i saw water went into both front and back camera. I got out all flaps and after some hours cameras were functional again. After even more hours buttons started to act weird. Sometimes power button wasn't working, sometimes volume up was acting like power button and so on. I tried to restart the phone, sometimes it went into safe mode(probably volume button was pressed by itself). Finally I couldn't start the phone at all(perhaps the power button stopped working at all).
After that i calmed down and put my phone into rice(hoping that would absorb water if any). After 24 hours i had no luck. When i had connected my phone to computer, the led was red, phone vibrated 3 times and then again and again.
Next step was to open the phone( removing the back with a hairdryer), took out the battery and trying to dry the phone with hairdryer. Still no succes. When connecting to PC and start flashtool, my phone wasn't recognised. I installed Sony Update Service (SUS) and then when i connected my phone i heard that sound you often hear when connecting a new device to an USB port. Now my phone is seen by flashtool, but it's always in fastbootmode. I even flashed CWM and it worked.
The problem is that it seems volume up is pressed always so i can't enter in flashmode to flash 4.4.2, it always goes into fastboot.
When on battery the phone is dead at all. Still when i try to charge the phone, it starts, displays Sony logo then shows that it's charging (at first that battery was empty but after 2 hours it got full charged). If i press power button it shutdown.
To resume, when on battery nothing happens( the battery could be dead). When plugged to wall charger the phone starts charging( so battery could work). Power button does nothing at all when on battery, but works when phone is charging or when connected to PC in fastboot.
If anyone had any idea what I could do I would be very appreciative. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask me.Thank you very much for your support!
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Did you connect phone holding volume down key or are you connecting usb after that pressing volume down key
androidtweaker1 said:
Did you connect phone holding volume down key or are you connecting usb after that pressing volume down key
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Even if i down't press anything, just connect the phone to usb, led is blue, that means it's in fastboot mode...so i think volume up is stuck, pressed.
bavarezul13 said:
Even if i down't press anything, just connect the phone to usb, led is blue, that means it's in fastboot mode...so i think volume up is stuck, pressed.
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or the volume pcb might have shorted
Please remember this for the rest of your life:
When you notice that water has went into your device.... TURN IT THE F OFF AND LET TIT DRY...
Using it while it's wet from the inside is really bad.
Update Guys
Today I've replaced that yellow connector that contains power, vol up and vol down buttons. I managed to enter flashmode and flashed the newest official rom .233. Power button and vol up work like charm, vol down is dead.
The problem is that my phone is stuck on safe mode(probably because vol down is stuck). I want to know if there's any solution to get rid of this safe mode. I read somewhere that changes can be made to the kernel so that vol down will be disabled for ever. If you know any ROM, any mod, whatever that disables the vol down button i'll appreciate your help.
Hello. This morning I've turned off the alarm, turned on WIFI and went back to sleep. I can't tell for sure, but I think the battery was low. During the next 2 hours I checked the time several times. I don't remember accepting any OTA. Eventually I got up, tried to check the time and the phone was off. I tried to turn it on, no effect. No matter how many times and for how long I pressed and held the power button, the green LED only flashed for a split second and that's all. I plugged in the charger, and the LED stayed lit -but- there was this barely noticeable flickering. Charged it for about 30, 60, 120 minutes, didn't start plugged or unplugged. I went to work, 8 hours later (phone was unplugged) I tried to turn it on again, this time the LED doesn't even flash, but when charging there is no flickering. No combination of buttons works. Windows doesn't find the device, neither does RSD.
I've never done anything 'custom' to the phone. The last change I made was setting the alarm to turn off by shaking (yesterday, never used this option before).
Is it dead?
Try taking SD card out and holding Vol down and then Power for 20 secs, then let go of Power,
Already done that, nothing. No matter how long I charge it now, after unplugging and pressing power button the LED doesn't even flash. Could it be a battery problem (before its death, it would last for a day)? Is there any way of recovering my data without buying a new one?
Try opening and disconnect battery for a bit.
I'll do that as a last resort, on weekend maybe since I don't have the tools with me. Any other clues?
Nobody knows how to help me?
I'm going to make a factory cable. Will this alone allow me to recover the data? Or if I'll be able to flash the phone, can I recover the data afterwards?
Also, I'm not sure if I understand correctly: does the factory cable recharge the battery or not? Is there a way to recharge it when removed from the phone?
Try to use medfield unbrick script. If You have only green led it seems to be bootloader error so this script should bring Your phone to life or Your phone has broken emmc and You can start looking for a new logic board. Good luck.
I've installed the drivers, but Windows and XFSTK don't recognize my device at all. Factory cable also didn't help. I liked my phone very much. :angel:
Did You enter medfield mode using combination with camera button??
By a combination you mean holding the camera button and connecting the phone to a pc? I tried that.
Disassembe Your phone, pull out battery, push power button for a 10 sec, plug in battery, push camera button and connect USB. If it wont help You I don't see any hope for Your phone.
Well, new option to try is a new hope. I'll try that on the weekend. Could you please be more specific:
1. Pull out the battery.
2. Press the power button and wait 10 seconds.
3. Insert the battery: should I be still holding the power button at this moment?
4. Press the camera button.
5. Plug in the usb cable (factory? regular?) - should I be still holding the power and camera buttons?
Battery trick is only to discharge capacitors. Sometimes even phone is dead it can turn on in some strange mode and then You can't boot it to flash. Thats why You need to pull out battery, push power for a few sec to completely discharge motherboard and just release this button. After that You can just plug in battery and continue normal unbrick process - so hold camera button only and connect regular usb cable.
You can also try reset option instead of pulling battery out. To do that do not disassemble Your phone but just plug in regular USB, when phone starts (green led) hold power and vol- until green led goes off and then quickly start holding only camera button.
I have no more ideas.
Ok, I've tried everything. Nothing brought my phone back to life.
Thanks for all your help.
So I think I did something which I've not done before - brick my phone completely.
I got two Z3C so this is my 'spare' one which I was testing CarbonROM on. Because I want to ease my transition to a new ROM I wanted to backup my entire "main phone" and restore it on my secondary phone, with TWRP. When I tried this, it seemed like it only wanted to restore system, data (excl storage) and something else I can't remember. But it didnt include the FOTAKernel and stuff I had taken a backup of from the other phone.
Anyway, the restore failed when it came to data (excl). I gave the phone a reboot and since then it's just been flashing a red light. I can't hold down power button and vol down to simulate the battery pull. If I plug in USB while holding volup or down it doesnt enter flashmode or fastboot - it just blinks red.
The phone was plenty charged when I worked with it, 50%+ was the last battery level TWRP told me.
Other googlings bring me to people who write its a hardware fault - dead motherboard or so. Others have experienced it with waterdamage and stuff like that but my scenario is nothing like this.
Any clues ?
Kocane said:
So I think I did something which I've not done before - brick my phone completely.
I got two Z3C so this is my 'spare' one which I was testing CarbonROM on. Because I want to ease my transition to a new ROM I wanted to backup my entire "main phone" and restore it on my secondary phone, with TWRP. When I tried this, it seemed like it only wanted to restore system, data (excl storage) and something else I can't remember. But it didnt include the FOTAKernel and stuff I had taken a backup of from the other phone.
Anyway, the restore failed when it came to data (excl). I gave the phone a reboot and since then it's just been flashing a red light. I can't hold down power button and vol down to simulate the battery pull. If I plug in USB while holding volup or down it doesnt enter flashmode or fastboot - it just blinks red.
The phone was plenty charged when I worked with it, 50%+ was the last battery level TWRP told me.
Other googlings bring me to people who write its a hardware fault - dead motherboard or so. Others have experienced it with waterdamage and stuff like that but my scenario is nothing like this.
Any clues ?
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I don't think you can restore from a different phone. That's probably the cause. However, I also have not heard of a hard-brick happening just by trying to flash the wrong thing in TWRP, (but maybe possible).
I have had the red light issue a few times, after flashing bad zip, but not on Z3c, on my XA, and I was able to resurrect it by holding down volume and power buttons while plugging it in, but for some reason, it only worked when I used a different charger/cable. All of a sudden it pops back to life with zero battery, (it was full when it died). Maybe you can try that.
I've also found that with some custom rooms / kernels, you need to hold volume and power buttons for about 10 seconds to get it to respond...
levone1 said:
I don't think you can restore from a different phone. That's probably the cause. However, I also have not heard of a hard-brick happening just by trying to flash the wrong thing in TWRP, (but maybe possible).
I have had the red light issue a few times, after flashing bad zip, but not on Z3c, on my XA, and I was able to resurrect it by holding down volume and power buttons while plugging it in, but for some reason, it only worked when I used a different charger/cable. All of a sudden it pops back to life with zero battery, (it was full when it died). Maybe you can try that.
I've also found that with some custom rooms / kernels, you need to hold volume and power buttons for about 10 seconds to get it to respond...
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Hm. I've had it charging from USB connected to my laptop overnight - nothing different. Plugged it into a real charger when I went to work, will see when I get home.
It doesn't react to the powerbutton + voldown combo, which I've used extensively in the past. I haven't tried plugging it while holding any button. Did you plug it into a charger or computer USB port?
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Hm. I've had it charging from USB connected to my laptop overnight - nothing different. Plugged it into a real charger when I went to work, will see when I get home.
It doesn't react to the powerbutton + voldown combo, which I've used extensively in the past. I haven't tried plugging it while holding any button. Did you plug it into a charger or computer USB port?
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I did the same thing for a whole day, (tried to leave it plugged in to charge), and no response, but when I changed the cable and power source, and held down the buttons while plugging it in, after a few tries with different buttons, it suddenly popped on, with zero battery, and started charging.
Also, you might try posting in a TWRP thread. See if anyone has seen this before...