I want to buy a Galaxy S but... which is better? Galaxy S Plus has a few custom roms.. But its 1400 mhz.. hummingbird or scorpion? I'm a noob on these smartphones. some people say Galaxy S's processor is better than SGS+'s.. Which could I buy? Thanks.
I will recommend paying a few more and go for galaxy r .
Samsung Hummingbird is the best single-core chipset. ARM Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX540 = awesome combination.
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Bes05 said:
The sgs+ is better compared to hardware, (there is the + for) but in my opinion the sgs is a better choice cause there are more people with this phone.. more people = more devs = more custom roms
And if you can pay more.. sgs2 is a much better choice
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I agree with you. i9001 have a better hardware but have less devs working on them!
i9000 by far. Much more software, and in my opinion better machine.
BR
I'm running 1400 mhz on stock voltage of 1000 mhz. And -125 mv undervolted all of other frequencies.
Also I have a hummingbird + powervr 540 gpu
So I have Galaxy S+++
I9000 to the win
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i9000+ will provide better web experience from the start thanks to higher cpu frequency, but you can oc i9000 to get pretty much the same effect. You need to decide whether you want customize your phone or use as it is straight grom the box. In terms of graphics i9000 crushes the i9000+, because it's powered by powervr540 while i9000+ uses adreno205 which is older and slower. Also there's the community backup thing. i9000 is one of the most popular and supprted android phones and this will continue even though much more powerful devices are released. It's just so user friendly in so many ways you can't ignore it. My vote would be for i9000, but it all comes down to what do you want from your phone and what are you going to use it for. Either way you go, you'll ebd up with a great sammy phone.
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i9001 is a nice choice, but i9000 better because of community and official samsung support.
I'll recommend u to look at the LG Optimus Black - it has almost the same price/specs but it's a newer model, so u'll get a support for a longer time...
I was in same situation as you, I choosed i9000 and I don't regret it - you can OC the CPU and the PowerVR SGX540 is much better than Adreno 205 + more ROMs and mods, bigger community, more people with this phone. I get around 3500 score in Quadrant benchmark.
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Look guys i know all people owning the i9000 are very proud of the powervr sgx540 gpu it uses, but actually adreno 205 is better than sgx 540, samsung has recently updated the adreno 205 gpu drivers in the galaxy w which uses the same chipset as the i9001, those who have the i9001 can download these egl drivers from here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376462"
i have personally tested both the phones. the i9001 is in fact a good choice, the 1.4 ghz snapdragon cpu is the best single core processor i have seen, I don't want to hurt anyone here but all phones get old after sometime, the i9000 cant stay on the top always,and now we have the dual cores ready to woop our ares anytime
galaxy s i9000
for sure
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Definitely the I9000! The latest stock rom (JW1) is incredibly smooth!
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Look guys i know all people owning the i9000 are very proud of the powervr sgx540 gpu it uses, but actually adreno 205 is better than sgx 540, samsung has recently updated the adreno 205 gpu drivers in the galaxy w which uses the same chipset as the i9001, those who have the i9001 can download these egl drivers from here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376462"
i have personally tested both the phones. the i9001 is in fact a good choice, the 1.4 ghz snapdragon cpu is the best single core processor i have seen, I don't want to hurt anyone here but all phones get old after sometime, the i9000 cant stay on the top always,and now we have the dual cores ready to woop our ares anytime
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The Adreno 205 is not better, it's a piece of crap actually. 265m fillrate? that is the same as PowerVR MBX lite. PowerVR GPUs have much higher fillrate 1G fillrate which ensures gameloft games can be rendered with A.I. with lots of activities on screen. Adreno 205 renders OpenGL benchmark at very low choppy frame rates with disappearing polygons while PowerVR GSX 540 runs it smoothly without graphics glitches.
The 1.4GHz snapdragon processor is indeed better for multi-tasking, but what is the use of a faster processor with a combination of a ****ty GPU?
Not everybody is dependant on a gamer GPU. I personally don't play any games at all on my phone. So this depends on what you want your phone to deliver.
Go for Galaxy R
Go for Galaxy R, as samsung will be providing ICS for Galaxy R and Galaxy S2....
puneetgandhi said:
Go for Galaxy R, as samsung will be providing ICS for Galaxy R and Galaxy S2....
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Isn't that only available for Roger's network in the USA and not worldwide?
you can't get the answer here... because most of the guys here have Galaxy S i9000, so they have to defend they're own device lol!!! and for all you guys here who doesn't know anything about "GPU's" i can give you a quiick info. here is a simple benchmark by two of the most respectable benchmarking groups anandtech and mobiletechworld.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...-vs-sgx540-htc-desire-hd-vs-samsung-galaxy-s/
PowerVR SGX540 is a beast but Adreno 205 held its floor against it and wins by inches at the majority of categories. (slap on the face of the sgx540) users hahahahaha :silly:
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heyy people can u point out wich one to choose from SGS or DEFY+ ?
all i know is both having 1ghz cpu...but want to know which one is better for gaming with option of future updates...
thanx alot people
Defy has 800 MHz as standard and this is the sgs forum so i'm sure most people will vote for the sgs Read up reviews and watch reviews on youtube for the most help. Type defy vs sgs on youtube and you might find some good reviews.
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heyy people can u point out wich one to choose from SGS or DEFY+ ?
all i know is both having 1ghz cpu...but want to know which one is better for gaming with option of future updates...
thanx alot people
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Hello asn39!
First of all i want to classify the advantages of SGS over MOTOdefy+
-->1Ghz Hummingbird & 1GHz bump from TI-OMAP-3610 to 3620!
1) The point here is the Hummingbird has a GPU PowerVRSGX 540 that is superior over PowerVR SGX 530.
2) You have an overclock of 1.7 GHz paired wih a 40MHz increase in GPU.
3) It beats the MSM8255 in terms of FPS...
-->SUPER AMOLED screen!
--> No of ROM[20+Mod]'s and Kernel[8Mods] packs availability for SGS i9K.
-->Enchanced Sound from SGS coz of Voodoo v10 FIX'es.
-->Hack's and Mod's for SGS are under development.
now you have to decide whether to take SGS or Moto!
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Hello asn39!
First of all i want to classify the advantages of SGS over MOTOdefy+
-->1Ghz Hummingbird & 1GHz bump from TI-OMAP-3610 to 3620!
1) The point here is the Hummingbird has a GPU PowerVRSGX 540 that is superior over PowerVR SGX 530.
2) You have an overclock of 1.7 GHz paired wih a 40MHz increase in GPU.
3) It beats the MSM8255 in terms of FPS...
-->SUPER AMOLED screen!
--> No of ROM[20+Mod]'s and Kernel[8Mods] packs availability for SGS i9K.
-->Enchanced Sound from SGS coz of Voodoo v10 FIX'es.
-->Hack's and Mod's for SGS are under development.
now you have to decide whether to take SGS or Moto!
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Totally agreed SGS has best gaming experince and high video quality with smooth and soft touch....and too fast
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The SGS is highly individual and one of the flattest phones. Furthermore it's very light and well to handle. One big advantage is the stability - if it is having contact with the floor, it won't give up being a gentle friend ;-)
Get it, love it
SGS for sure
Can we use Galaxy S Plus Roms on Galaxy W? They have same specs : Processor(Snapdragoon MSM8255T), Resolution(480x800), RAM (512MB). So I think we could but I wanna ask some developers.
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Can we use Galaxy S Plus Roms on Galaxy W? They have same specs : Processor(Snapdragoon MSM8255T), Resolution(480x800), RAM (512MB). So I think we could but I wanna ask some developers.
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It has a 3.7 inch TFT screen (SGS has AMOLED)
MSM8255T 1.4 GHz Processor (SGS has Hummingbird)
Adreno 205 (SGS has PowerVR SGX540)
I cannot see how they are the same at all; but at any rate
DO NOT TRY TO FLASH ANY I9000 ROM/MODEM ONTO YOUR PHONE!
Moon2 said:
It has a 3.7 inch TFT screen (SGS has AMOLED)
MSM8255T 1.4 GHz Processor (SGS has Hummingbird)
Adreno 205 (SGS has PowerVR SGX540)
I cannot see how they are the same at all; but at any rate
DO NOT TRY TO FLASH ANY I9000 ROM/MODEM ONTO YOUR PHONE!
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He meant The GT-9001 Glalaxy S Plus that uses the Scorpion SoC and has a 4" SC-LCD. Even so i doubt it's possible without some modification.
Yes I meant Galaxy S Plus. And I wanna ask some developers to start developing roms for Galaxy W. It's a good phone, very fast, and I think it deserves it's own section or at least a thread here in Galaxy S Section!
Oh, right sry; that makes more sense.
I am going to buy a new smartphone in couple of days.
For the first time i thought of buying Neo V because of its design and bravia engine display with large screen for gaming[ Ray would be little bit small to hold in both hands for gaming so dropped it ].
But,
Now i am confused to choose which phone to buy after seeing Galaxy S even though its on old model it has the same stand in the market.
I actually want to buy smartphone for HD gaming from gameloft and nonGL.
Which mobile supports all HD games
So please tell me which one should i buy....?
I have the SGS (Samsung Galaxy S) and it's a very good phone!
Anyway, for HD gaming is not too good... I don't have the Neo V, but checking the specs I can tell that it ain't very good neither.
I would recommend you to get a Xperia Play ( If you want your smatphone for gaming), is Cheaper than the SGS and has a better GPU.
The good thing about the SGS is that it has a lot of attention from the community (that means a lot of custom ROMs).
If you can get the money get a SGS2 or a Galaxy Nexus.
Cheers
For gaming, Galaxy S has PowerVR SGX 540 graphics is probably one of the best low priced android phones for gaming since iPhone has PowerVR SGX 535 graphics . Because games are natively coded and optimized for PowerVR GPUs, there is none of that "porting" thingie needed to be done.
That means the games are stable, fast and efficient when running on PowerVR graphics. There isn't "lost in quality" as much as regular ports, that unless you're playing it on a HD TV via TV out. Otherwise, WVGA is the limitation to that.
Neo V has Adreno 205, a non-powervr chip and is relativity slower than PowerVR SGX 540. So I wouldn't recommend that for gaming.
what about galaxy r i9103
Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H
Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
ULP GeForce
1 GB RAM
I dont know, but if you play so much your battery will be down in 2-3h
Xperia play probably would be good, but the custom rom side of things is a bit of a barren wasteground compared to over here on the SGS forum. There are only 1-2 custom roms that are any good.
Had very mixed results with converting my own PSX games with psxperia, but the dedicated hardware controller is soooo much better than a on-screen one
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what about galaxy r i9103
Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H
Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
ULP GeForce
1 GB RAM
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As far as I know, Tegra 2 shares many of the similarities to PowerVR architecture. Some graphically intensive games are also optimized for this particular chip and are listed THD.
Lets sum up the pluses:
1) Similar architecture
2)THD optimized games enabling extra detail for ULV Geforce GPUs
So why not?
hello guys..i heard that galaxy note and other samsung device are using an outdated GPU (Mali-400MP GPU)...so is it a little "fail" for our note to have an outdated GPU?plss give ur opinion.. thanks guys
..u can read the review about the GPU--> Here
It's so much faster than the sgx540 in the nexus it's ridiculous and since my choice was between those two I'm very happy with it.
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Check out the real world performances. Mali 400 outclasses Adreno 220 easily.
The weakpoint of Mali is geometry performance, but it does not matter much with mobiles until now as mobile games are not geometry heavy.
On the other hand, the OpenGL ES 2.x performance and real world performance of Mali is excellent.
With the clock speed of exynos in Note which actually gives much better real world performance with Mali 400 than even SGS2, it runs circles around Adreno 220 powered devices like sensation and even SGX540 powered devices.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
The above review is of SGS2. And mind you the performance of note is much better than SGS2. It is one of the most balanced GPUs on market with great gaming as well as multimedia performance (which actually matters more to someone like me.)
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Check out the real world performances. Mali 400 outclasses Adreno 220 easily.
The weakpoint of Mali is geometry performance, but it does not matter much with mobiles until now as mobile games are not geometry heavy.
On the other hand, the OpenGL ES 2.x performance and real world performance of Mali is excellent.
With the clock speed of exynos in Note which actually gives much better real world performance with Mali 400 than even SGS2, it runs circles around Adreno 220 powered devices like sensation and even SGX540 powered devices.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
The above review is of SGS2. And mind you the performance of note is much better than SGS2. It is one of the most balanced GPUs on market with great gaming as well as multimedia performance (which actually matters more to someone like me.)
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thanks for this info sir
although mali has been here for a very long time, it was well ahead of its time. and it still is i guess
anjath said:
although mali has been here for a very long time, it was well ahead of its time. and it still is i guess
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Yeah well Scott Adams is wayyyyyyy past his heyday (heck, even being relevant).... haven't read him since 2007 or so, when he started dabbling in intelligent design woo and sexist claptrap...
for being a heavy mobile gamer
i can assure you that the mali 400 on the note does very well with the latest games (asphalt7, dead trigger to name a few) despite having to compute for a much higher resolution display than other phones...
and with a little overclocking (tegrak app or gl notecore kernel) gpu performance can get sky high.
best phone i ever got :victory:
GAME ON said:
hello guys..i heard that galaxy note and other samsung device are using an outdated GPU (Mali-400MP GPU)...so is it a little "fail" for our note to have an outdated GPU?plss give ur opinion.. thanks guys
..u can read the review about the GPU--> Here
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The note was released ten months ago but still its gpu is better than all the others except sgs3 and and maybe one x..
Btw do you even own a note?? Did you every notice any lag in any game??
Whiskeyjack4855 said:
The note was released ten months ago but still its gpu is better than all the others except sgs3 and and maybe one x..
Btw do you even own a note?? Did you every notice any lag in any game??
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The NOTE's and SGS3's GPU are the same.
However, the S3 is built on a smaller 32nm die-size, so it means it uses less space and less power for same performance. Samsung uses this advantage to clock the frequency much higher than the NOTE (which is built on a 45nm die).
Also, the S3 implements a new, updated driver for the gpu and squeezes more performance out. This was a same move Samsung made with the SGX540, which is also a very fast gpu. The original SGS was clocked real-low and had outdated drivers... after stealing the driver sources from the LG with OMAP 4440 SoC, the SGS (with 4.0.3) was performing in the same league as the 2011/2012 devices.
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The NOTE's and SGS3's GPU are the same.
However, the S3 is built on a smaller 32nm die-size, so it means it uses less space and less power for same performance. Samsung uses this advantage to clock the frequency much higher than the NOTE (which is built on a 45nm die).
Also, the S3 implements a new, updated driver for the gpu and squeezes more performance out. This was a same move Samsung made with the SGX540, which is also a very fast gpu. The original SGS was clocked real-low and had outdated drivers... after stealing the driver sources from the LG with OMAP 4440 SoC, the SGS (with 4.0.3) was performing in the same league as the 2011/2012 devices.
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I know that that both the note and sgs3 has same gpu.. But the one in sgs3 its more powerful cause you said it's overclocked and has better drivers..
Btw do you know why the mali in sgs3 gets so high benchmark scores even wih the 720p screen? I mean is it all due to oc and better drivers?
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I know that that both the note and sgs3 has same gpu.. But the one in sgs3 its more powerful cause you said it's overclocked and has better drivers..
Btw do you know why the mali in sgs3 gets so high benchmark scores even wih the 720p screen? I mean is it all due to oc and better drivers?
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Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
An easier way to understand is to look at the new RIM PlayBook.
It's got the same processor as the Gnex (Galaxy Nexus) however its much much faster, especially in browsing. It decimates it. It even decimates the ASUS Transformer Prime Infinity (O'C Tegra3 + ICS).... or the Nexus7 (U'C Tegra3 + JBean).
You are only as fast as your slowest component. In the case of Android, its the high-level (slow) implemented software.
= Getting a faster soc with more cores and more ram doesn't really increase performance that much.
Some serious thread necromancy going on here!
Regards,
Dave
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Kangal said:
Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
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By toe to toe with the one x do you mean benchmarks or real life perfomance..
Hey one thing more..aren't you a engadget reader?
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By toe to toe with the one x do you mean benchmarks or real life perfomance..
Hey one thing more..aren't you a engadget reader?
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Both.
But I don't live by the benchmarks. I mean have you tried some of the HD Apps from TegraZone. On stock TouchWizz, the NOTE really struggles. With a custom setup, I don't get much/any problems.
Yeah, I do frequent engadget... also on heaps of other sites.
Kangal said:
Both.
But I don't live by the benchmarks. I mean have you tried some of the HD Apps from TegraZone. On stock TouchWizz, the NOTE really struggles. With a custom setup, I don't get much/any problems.
Yeah, I do frequent engadget... also on heaps of other sites.
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Would you be kind enough to educate me about your setup?
Kangal said:
Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
An easier way to understand is to look at the new RIM PlayBook.
It's got the same processor as the Gnex (Galaxy Nexus) however its much much faster, especially in browsing. It decimates it. It even decimates the ASUS Transformer Prime Infinity (O'C Tegra3 + ICS).... or the Nexus7 (U'C Tegra3 + JBean).
You are only as fast as your slowest component. In the case of Android, its the high-level (slow) implemented software.
= Getting a faster soc with more cores and more ram doesn't really increase performance that much.
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Exactly. Even though the Playbook has its many flaws (owned two both with screen/USB issues) it was a powerhouse. Multimedia was outstanding and web surfing was by far the fastest.
But the OS, QNX, is to thank for that. If the Playbook was running android it would be nothing out of the ordinary. As much as I love Android it really is not as efficiant as QNX
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anything on market today is outdated tommorow
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Recently I had a doubt about if it's possible to unlock the 2 locked remaining cores in the Galaxy Note N7000? Because I realize that the Note only uses 2 of the 4 GPU cores... It's there a possibility to do this? How?
i think mali 400 is a good GPU because Note1 and Note2 using it. and really nice GPU for gaming
Hi there,
With recent announcement of Galaxy Young DS it's (maybe) possible for us to get JB/CM10 for our Jena since the phone likely would be same with our Jena (spec wise, it's dual sim, processor upgraded to 1 Ghz and RAM to 768 MB)
here the comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5280&idPhone2=3883
or atleast if this device real cheap, we could buy this to replace our Jena
more info:
Porobu said:
The galaxy young single sim uses a qualcomm MSM7X27 cpu
http://www.android.gs/six-new-samsu...s-galaxy-fonblet-5-8-cheap-nexus-10-and-more/
The benchmark logs also talk about Samsung Galaxy Young, codenamed GT-S6310/GT-S6312, which boasts a 1 GHz Qualcomm 7×27 GPU, Adreno 200 GPU and HVGA display with a resolution 480 x 320 pixels. Even though it was initially tested on Android 4.0.4, the smartphone will hit the market with Jelly Bean.
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dels07 said:
Hi there,
With recent announcement of Galaxy Young DS it's (maybe) possible for us to get JB/CM10 for our Jena since the phone likely would be same with our Jena (spec wise, it's dual sim, processor upgraded to 1 Ghz and RAM to 768 MB)
here the comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5280&idPhone2=3883
or atleast if this device real cheap, we could buy this to replace our Jena
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Hmm nice phone but in this phone not has NFC support.
i hope its not a son of broadcom...jena still...no need for dual sim ...
The galaxy young single sim uses a qualcomm MSM7X27 cpu
http://www.android.gs/six-new-samsu...s-galaxy-fonblet-5-8-cheap-nexus-10-and-more/
The benchmark logs also talk about Samsung Galaxy Young, codenamed GT-S6310/GT-S6312, which boasts a 1 GHz Qualcomm 7×27 GPU, Adreno 200 GPU and HVGA display with a resolution 480 x 320 pixels. Even though it was initially tested on Android 4.0.4, the smartphone will hit the market with Jelly Bean.
do search before posting threads
as someone have got a reply from samsung's facebook account that sgm2 will have jb Soon