hey all, i apologize in advance because i am fairly new to the rooting world, let alone the smartphone realm (considering the DROID3 is my first smartphone ever) but i heard about roots, hacks and all the crazy stuff you can do with a rooted phone. so i thought id give it a try.. ive backed up all my files, at least i think so, with titanium backup. i am wondering is there a way to get rid of all that crappy bloatware without going in to the system files and reprogramming it? im a reasonably intelligent person. and im tired of painfully reading through the internet, (been up for 18 hours now) and i really just want to put it to rest. ive already rooted i really just need some help from here. thanks all, and i appreciate any comments, sarcastic or not
Welcome to XDA. The search button is your friend. All of your answers can be found in the first few threads that are stickied at the top of the Development Section.
For root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240130
Remove Bloat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472
If you don't want to run the script in the link above to remove the bloatware, you can use Titanium Backup PRO to 'freeze' any bloatware apps that you don't want to use. The freeze feature is only available in the paid version.
thank you friend, i have recently come across gemini app manager it claims to be able to do the same things as titanium backup pro, do you have any experience with this app? i "froze" a couple of my apps and the next thing i know i cant text or view my contacts.. please help
Don't freeze random things which you're not sure what it does, or apps that sounds as if it part of the system framework or phone related.
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thank you friend, i have recently come across gemini app manager it claims to be able to do the same things as titanium backup pro, do you have any experience with this app? i "froze" a couple of my apps and the next thing i know i cant text or view my contacts.. please help
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I have not used gemini app manager so I can't comment on the app.
As far as freezing goes - as mentioned, you have to be careful what you freeze. Freezing system apps can cause some things to not work properly.
Did you follow the link I listed for de-bloating earlier? If you download the .zip file and open it in a text editor it will show you all the apps that are frozen by the script and you can then use that list to freeze apps manually...
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Does ANYBODY have a solid answer for backing up your custom scenes on NON-ROOTED hTC Android phones ? App or file location ? I've searched this and googled through quite a few other forums. I'm sure this info would be appreciated by masses of scene tweakers like Myself.
+1, been searching for an answer myself.
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im new to android and loving it. i gues i made a good choice with the evo i just got........ any ways have you guys heard of "titaniumbackup" is in the market for rooted phones. is free but is better to donate ($3.99) and get faster backups and more stuff. it backs up all data and apps.(mms,calls,app setting ect) and no ROM changes are made just restart you phone after backup restore and all data is just like you had it.
cant post link cus im new but hit me up and ill be more than happy to send it
PS: im no expert but im willing to help in what i can. websites like this one have helped me alot so im willing to give back
its not possible to backup anything but apps without root from the /system and /data directories on your phone.
only thing you might be able to change is boot animation and splash image. and i think a few other misc files, but nothing to do with settings, scenes, alarms, txt messages, etc as those all require root.
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This should be a general thread. I am rooted and would also likely to know how to backup scenes.
After flashing a rom the only 'issue' I have is reorganizing five screens. What a pain to have drag each app/widget.
While were on backup, I use appbrain to save what apps I have installed. Problem is when i say install all it goes to each one, stops and waits for permissions instead of auto installing.
Does titanium auto install? Does titanium save scenes?? Plus?
I didn't spot any thread around here covering the topic of debloating stock sony firmware. Not that it would be cluttered like other manufacturers firmware, but theres still room for improvement
Is there a guide somewhere or a list of all apk safe to disable/remove (provided root acces) on sony firmwares? Similar to a Samsung Galaxy S2 related guide here or another very exhaustive one here (<- preferred).
I'm from the X10i & the Arc forums, I use this as a guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
Good Luck
* If you want to delete a app by Root-Explorer, don't update it by Playstore first before removing it. (Facebook)
* Some apps can be removed by Settings - Apps etc.
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Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
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This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it:
Apps that you can "disable" will not effect the functionality of the phone, you will just lose the function of the app in question.
Secondly, if you are using titanium back up to freeze system apps, and you are not sure what the app you are freezing does you might stop your system from working, so before you freeze anything you are unsure of, take a full backup first so you can restore it if your system becomes unstable.
Please post your results in this thread for others to learn from.
There is also a system app cleaner in flashtool, although I have not used it with the T yet.
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gregbradley said:
Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is personal preference on which apps you want to delete. *snip* However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete
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As for the first part of your post, I'm fully aware of. In fact thats the reason why I'd like to have some of useless stuff removed (numerous FB clients/apps/agents for example) But thanks for putting it here as other users might not be aware of the possible issues.
The part in bold is of most interest to me. I'm totally not an Android novice, I know most crucial system packages. Derping around in relatively pure Android releases like AOSP and CM10 and reading the same package names over and over again gives a feel what is Android related and what is vendor specific. For Sammy/Touchwiz I know which package does what, but with Sony I'm new and dont know which files are safe to remove without breaking the system. Hence this thread.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it: *snip*
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Of course same as above. I do not use TiB though, I use an app called System App Remover. I know TiB very vell of course, but then, who doesn't But again, I'm not interested in getting informations what removing or freezing apk's means in general, I'm interested in which are essential to Sonys UI and will break the system if removed.
I'll have a look at the link provided to the Arc/X10 forums.
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LitoNi said:
Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
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Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
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Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
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not sure whats that got to do with it, Setup guide is one of the first apps i delte. Unless this an app from your carrier that loads the apn settings...mine are downloaded automatically from vodafone.
I got a new wifi S2, installed the permissive kernel and rooted it. I installed TWRP and made a backup. Now I've got an uninstall app and I've removed a few things; primarily Knox and the security logger so that it quits whining at me. I have a strong desire to never ever use the cloud, create a Samsung account, or a Google account. I really just want to load some books onto it and DLNA some music and videos.
So I want to get rid of all the stuff that I'll never be able to use but it's not clear to me how to identify all that. I'm a long time Unix guy but not at all an android guy. If something prompts me to create an account I know I want to uninstall it, but damned if I can figure out how to identify what to uninstall from what icon I touched.
I've found bloatware lists but they're all somewhat old and not for the S2, so it's not clear to me if I should trust them. I'd like to avoid trial and error "uninstall and reinstall if something doesn't work" or the even more dreaded "uninstall and find out six months later that something doesn't work". Can anyone point me at a good list of what I can remove, or where I can figure out how to determine that for myself? Thanks.
Better start freezen apps instead of uninstalling them. I use titanium backup for that, but you can use whatever you like. Just be carefull freezing or uninstalling OS related apps, you can end in a bootloop, but you always have the odin flash method to reflash your system back to normal. Just don't play around with partitions or /dev .
Right now I using my tablet unrooted and untouched, so I can't be more specific which apps you can freeze without problems.
He doesn't need odin as he has a twrp backup.
I take it you are using System App Remover (root) to uninstall system apps? If so you are pretty safe as they are backed up and can be restored any time if something goes wrong.
Also are you aware without a Google account you will lose part of the functionality of an Android device?
Samsungs account you can do without. All that stuff related to it can be deleted, but don't advise removing any of the Google core services from the stock rom.
If you really want a GAPPless rom then you're better off with a non stock custom rom like CM or AOSP.
Not much in that area of development at the moment, but there are a couple of members working on it.
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He doesn't need odin as he has a twrp backup.
I take it you are using System App Remover (root) to uninstall system apps? If so you are pretty safe as they are backed up and can be restored any time if something goes wrong.
Also are you aware without a Google account you will lose part of the functionality of an Android device?
Samsungs account you can do without. All that stuff related to it can be deleted, but don't advise removing any of the Google core services from the stock rom.
If you really want a GAPPless rom then you're better off with a non stock custom rom like CM or AOSP.
Not much in that area of development at the moment, but there are a couple of members working on it.
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Yes, thanks. If I lose functionality to avoid Google watching over my shoulder I'm all for it. I'm old and probably overprotective of what's my business and not theirs. In truth, I bought the S2 because I have a collection of chess book pdf's and djvu's that I want to be able to read while I'm sitting at my chess board. I got the 9.7 inch S2 because the old eyes aren't what they used to be. Anything I can do beyond that is icing on the cake.
I do have the app remover, and I've removed the stuff that was obvious to me (like the Microsoft Office stubs). But there are still lots of things that bring up a prompt for an account when I run them and it's not clear to me how to figure out what app to remove to get rid of that particular thing. On Linux I could use rpm -q to figure out what rpm contained a file I want to remove and I'd be good to go. I've tried googling some of the app names but the "descriptions" I end up finding are particularly unenlightening. And since this is definitely not my area of expertise I don't really want to operate in "let's remove this and see what happens" even if I can reinstall the app from its backup. I've been doing software development and sysadmin for more than 35 years now and that just doesn't seem like the way to approach this.
I was looking at CM, which seems like it might be what I'm looking for, but it's still in alpha and my skill level is probably not up to coping with that so I'm back with the problem of how to decide what to get rid of.
Hi Guy's/Girl's,
So i just successfully rooted my device with SuperSu and I'm looking to delete some bloatware, I've read good things about Titanium so i thought i'd give it a go. I'm mainly just removing all the stuff i don't use on this Tab to speed it up as all im doing with it is playing Mobile Legends and browsing, I've noticed that after removing app's their icon is still viewable in the draw but when i click on it nothing happens.. Does this mean that the app has been successfully removed and i just need to hide the icon?
I was also wondering would i be able to delete TouchWiz if im using another launcher (NOVA Launcher) or will it bug out?
Thanks in advance,
Cheers.
I generally freeze things in Titanium initially. Then, if no problems crop up after a reasonable time, I'll go back in an uninstall. If problems *do* crop up, I can thaw the app with (hopefully) no harm done.
That said, I've left TouchWiz alone since it is tied fairly tightly to the whole OS (and yes, I do use Nova).
I hope this is the correct section for this discussion, sorry if not.
So I am used to rooting my devices and was unhappy to find out the US Galaxy devices have a locked bootloader. That said, what is everyone using as an alternative to Titanum backup/restore application? Samsung Switch, ADB process, etc.?
I've used My Backup, it's serviceable given that we don't have root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup
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I've used My Backup, it's serviceable given that we don't have root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup
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Will take a look at this one, thank you!
On a side note, do you know if there are any developers actively working on a way to unlock the "U" variant bootloaders? Would like to support anyone who is. I am just happy there is Adhell 3 for us non-rooted folks and having the ability to disable bloatware or completely remove by flashing U1 which I have. Hate all that carrier crap installed. Missing the freedom I had with my OnePlus.
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Will take a look at this one, thank you!
On a side note, do you know if there are any developers actively working on a way to unlock the "U" variant bootloaders? Would like to support anyone who is. I am just happy there is Adhell 3 for us non-rooted folks and having the ability to disable bloatware or completely remove by flashing U1 which I have. Hate all that carrier crap installed. Missing the freedom I had with my OnePlus.
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Unfortunately no. The US variants have been locked down pretty tight since the S7. There have been some limited work arounds like Safe Strap and one time when someone released an engineering key or something. They have also incorporated another level of security according to the developer of Magisk.
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Unfortunately no. The US variants have been locked down pretty tight since the S7. There have been some limited work arounds like Safe Strap and one time when someone released an engineering key or something. They have also incorporated another level of security according to the developer of Magisk.
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Disappointing for sure. I followed John Wu closely over the last few weeks and saw that extra layer of security as well. While I like Samsung devices this may be my last one. I'm part of the crowd that believes a phone we purchase should be "our" phone to do with it as we please. Ah well, lesson learned. Appreciate the response.
Any way to backup app data without root?
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Any way to backup app data without root?
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Based on my own research, I don't believe so.
15 alternative tinatium backup alternative.tips/titanium-backup-alternatives-7905
Helium is able to backup (some) app data without root.
No real alternatives to Titanium backup really. Google is to blame to not provide a backup option for Android.
SMS backup and restore is all you can use to backup messages and then Google backup to backup apps. Samsung Smart switch is another option to move apps(without data) between devices.
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I hope this is the correct section for this discussion, sorry if not.
So I am used to rooting my devices and was unhappy to find out the US Galaxy devices have a locked bootloader. That said, what is everyone using as an alternative to Titanum backup/restore application? Samsung Switch, ADB process, etc.?
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You might wanna try "Swift Backup". Includes phone calls, messages, and apps :good:
I haven't used this, but under accounts, Samsung account there are some backup and restore settings. It says that it would backup apps and their settings.
May be try this.
Helium is for non rooted devices.
Swift backup will not restore app with their data. So it's waste for non root devices.
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DO NOT use Titanium Backup even if you have root. I used to use it, but it's lost all support and hasn't been updated in a long while. It will say it backed things up, but it won't work. It doesn't support multi-part apk's which are very common now, anything with a multi-part apk will be screwed. I had a pro version too, kinda sucks.
I tried a lot of others and ended up going with SwiftBackup, it's worked really well and will sync cloud backups.
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DO NOT use Titanium Backup even if you have root. I used to use it, but it's lost all support and hasn't been updated in a long while. It will say it backed things up, but it won't work. It doesn't support multi-part apk's which are very common now, anything with a multi-part apk will be screwed. I had a pro version too, kinda sucks.
I tried a lot of others and ended up going with SwiftBackup, it's worked really well and will sync cloud backups.
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What does it matter?
TITANIUM BACKUP IS WORKING PERFECTLY IF YOU WANT TO BACKUP DATA OR APK (not splitted).
Titanium Backup lost support for apks (splitted apk) but ALL REST IS WORKING PERFECTLY.
I AM USING TITANIUM BACKUP ON ALL ANDROID VERSIONS, I AM ON ANDROID 11 RIGHT NOW AND I CAN BACKUP AND RESTORE EVERYTHING I WANT USING TITANIUM BACKUP.
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Because it doesn't inform you if something is a split APK, it just says it backs up but when you try to restore, it fails. No way to know which APK's are split or not. So you'd have to test restore every single app one at a time to figure it out. If you batch restore and one split APK is in the middle, it will freeze and won't be able to go past it, and you won't know which it was, so you'll need to test one at a time. I used TI for years and this problem royally F'd me when it happened. It hasn't been updated since 2019, the DEV is MIA, so it's not worth bothering with even. SwiftBackup does almost everything TI could. TI had some cool advanced features, but it's now unreliable so shouldn't be trusted with backups.
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Because it doesn't inform you if something is a split APK, it just says it backs up but when you try to restore, it fails. No way to know which APK's are split or not. So you'd have to test restore every single app one at a time to figure it out. If you batch restore and one split APK is in the middle, it will freeze and won't be able to go past it, and you won't know which it was, so you'll need to test one at a time. I used TI for years and this problem royally F'd me when it happened. It hasn't been updated since 2019, the DEV is MIA, so it's not worth bothering with even. SwiftBackup does almost everything TI could. TI had some cool advanced features, but it's now unreliable so shouldn't be trusted with backups.
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As I said, Titanium Backup keeps making its work well on Android 11 and can be totally trusted.