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Have a T-mo HD2 with android, overall satisfied other than lack of a keyboard. Last week, leaving work, someone's unattended child bumped my arm and knocked my phone out of my had. Making it fall on to the asphault screen first, cracking the screen. Overall, still functions and thankfully I had a screen protector on it.
Right now I am using my backup TytnII.
I have insurance on the phone, have started the claim but they want 130$ and since the HD2 is no longer in production the phoned they are offering is a T-mo HD7.
SO my question is it worth it? for the phone? Resale, and get something else? What is the phone worth if I choose to sell it? Any/all constructive input appreciated. Thanks.
Fix your HD2 or get them to buy you a refurbished one HD7 is not worth it, made move from HD2 to 7 and regretted it since. HD2 can run WP7 if you want.
ruscik said:
Fix your HD2 or get them to buy you a refurbished one HD7 is not worth it, made move from HD2 to 7 and regretted it since. HD2 can run WP7 if you want.
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You know anyone good at fixing these?
I'm thinking the HD2 with android would compare to the desire...
As for HD2 being better than HD7, no way... I had WP7 on HD2 and most was fine but web browsing was tedious with no proper screen drivers... The HD7 is much better than HD2 the HD2 overheated a lot, the HD7 never overheats... And the HD2 got a distorted part of the screen, I imagine from the overheating...
If you don't like WP7 the get the HD7 and sell it for a desire...
argentocruz said:
I'm thinking the HD2 with android would compare to the desire...
As for HD2 being better than HD7, no way... I had WP7 on HD2 and most was fine but web browsing was tedious with no proper screen drivers... The HD7 is much better than HD2 the HD2 overheated a lot, the HD7 never overheats... And the HD2 got a distorted part of the screen, I imagine from the overheating...
If you don't like WP7 the get the HD7 and sell it for a desire...
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The HD2 with WM6.5 Pro was decent. HD2 with android was very decent. Was my first non-physical keyboard phone, mostly because it was cheap. Thought about trying out WP7 on the HD2, but do not have as much time as I used to anymore.
The idea of getting the phone and selling it sounds like a good idea.
I have bids on a few phones on ebay right now, have some time left so not holding my breath.
If I can get something more towards what I really do want then I will figure out what to do with the HD2, whether be selling it, using til it breaks, or attempting to fix it myself.
Have only used one, but as far as devices out now, the G2 seems to be the best suited for what I want. I am not set on Android, but physical keyboard and 4g speeds not sure there is anything better for the time being.
If you want WP7 get the HD7 (bad battery life though ) or even better get the Nokia Lumia
Otherwise Just stick with your HD2 as I have seen it got ported with Android Icecream Sandwich
If you don't dual-boot your HD2 then go with the HD7. Pick up the 1350mah Anker battery and the battery life problem will be solved. WP7 on the HD7 is great. The phone feels quality too.
If you run android on the HD2, I would still get the HD7 and either sell or trade it.
Sorry my HD2 never overheated, did not have dostorted screen as well. It was perfect much better built then HD7. HD2 felt like a solid brick and it proved itself as such. The same usage of HD7 over barely a year (had HD2 for 2 years) makes is squick, screen moves in corners, headphone socket is loose and ready to go, power button is collapsing and using that touch screen in light rain proves almost impossible unlike on HD2. BTW my HD2 was also through that time a GPS on a motorcycle so if it was raining it was operating in extreme moisture. HD7 goes crazy in same conditions and everything clicks on screen, you dim the screen and it comes on, music stops and starts many problems. Today in light rain I could not listen to music as screen was coming on and slightly moist pocket was making everything click.
Also HD2 is identical to HD7 in spec in more then 90%. Same CPU, US HD2 had more memory, same GPU, same screen size and I actually believe same screen.
Seen WP7 running on HD2 and did not see almost any performance differences. The one's that were there were mostly due to very slow SD card used in HD2.
I live in UK and had screen fixed in one of the shops on Tottenham Court Road.
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Sorry my HD2 never overheated, did not have dostorted screen as well. It was perfect much better built then HD7. HD2 felt like a solid brick and it proved itself as such. The same usage of HD7 over barely a year (had HD2 for 2 years) makes is squick, screen moves in corners, headphone socket is loose and ready to go, power button is collapsing and using that touch screen in light rain proves almost impossible unlike on HD2. BTW my HD2 was also through that time a GPS on a motorcycle so if it was raining it was operating in extreme moisture. HD7 goes crazy in same conditions and everything clicks on screen, you dim the screen and it comes on, music stops and starts many problems. Today in light rain I could not listen to music as screen was coming on and slightly moist pocket was making everything click.
Also HD2 is identical to HD7 in spec in more then 90%. Same CPU, US HD2 had more memory, same GPU, same screen size and I actually believe same screen.
Seen WP7 running on HD2 and did not see almost any performance differences. The one's that were there were mostly due to very slow SD card used in HD2.
I live in UK and had screen fixed in one of the shops on Tottenham Court Road.
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The HD2 build is definitely better, but I'd prefer an HD7 since it's actually made to run WP7.
Dual booting is neat, but I'd rather have a device that runs one OS very well than two with serious problems. I love the HD2, but I'd never consider it reliable enough to be a daily driver.
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The HD2 build is definitely better, but I'd prefer an HD7 since it's actually made to run WP7.
Dual booting is neat, but I'd rather have a device that runs one OS very well than two with serious problems. I love the HD2, but I'd never consider it reliable enough to be a daily driver.
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For me HD7 was a mistake, build quality is bad, it adds nothing over HD2 and I for one will be happy to pass it on O am afraid it will be 50GBP at best.
Next for me is Titan or move to Android as all WP7 phones feels cheap.
Seems like part of MS requirement hehe
Sold my hd2:-( got an hd7 liked it hated it sold it. Back cover keept falling off and its a lil big in my pocket (bad if u bmx) but other then that I did kinda like wp7 really snappy and quick
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I've had my HD7 for the same amount of time as I did my HD2 and the HD7 is flawless... The HD2 in the same time showed many more scars and screen problems...
As for back cover, I quite like the flimsy plastic for a couple of reason... Getting it on and off is simple and replacing it is under $10 on ebay...
As for the HD7 adding nothing to the HD2... Well, a pinch to zoom that works properly and the kickstand were the winners for me...
OP should take an HD7 for a spin... Our opinions are opinionated...
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Last week, leaving work, someone's unattended child bumped my arm and knocked my phone out of my had.
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Whew, I am just glad it wasn't your own fault for your phone breaking. Stupid unattended children.
For now I'd ask for an Android option. My HD7 is unusable with the disappearing keyboard fault that Microsoft has ignored for MONTHS. Steer clear!!
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I just got the HD7 recently from my organization, I am using it over my SGS 2. Probably because it's fresh, but I like the system in general, although I deplore lack of some standard apps I use in Android. I don't feel the need to tweak that, change this, flash here and there. In terms of hardware and built, it does not compary to SGS2, but it's a good phone as far as the system and usability goes.
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For now I'd ask for an Android option. My HD7 is unusable with the disappearing keyboard fault that Microsoft has ignored for MONTHS. Steer clear!!
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Hi everyone!! why don't you get a samsung galaxy note
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JyfrD4VrHY
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As for the HD7 adding nothing to the HD2... Well, a pinch to zoom that works properly and the kickstand were the winners for me...
OP should take an HD7 for a spin... Our opinions are opinionated...
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Pinch to zoom another useless gimmick that apple will sue HTC or MS for. How is it any better/quicker then double tapping a screen in old Opera for WM6.5?
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Whew, I am just glad it wasn't your own fault for your phone breaking. Stupid unattended children.
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Exactly..
Update, I found a great deal on a T-mo HTC G2/Desire Z with accessories. So, at least for now WP7 is not in my future.
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So you guys have had the HD7 for a while now. I know it has bugs at the moment. Its to be expected as the OS is still new.
But would you buy it if you knew what you knew now?
Yes, most certainly. Loving WP7 completely. In terms of hardware, the size of the screen is the deal maker for me. But a surprisingly nice addition is the kick stand, which is both effective, useful and invokes an 'oooh that's cool' from people I show the phone to.
I did buy it, then I returned it.
And got an Omnia 7.
May I ask why?
Absolutley I would, yes, there are are few niggles but this is version 1 of the software and a brand new device FFS. Apple are STILL having problems withe the iphone 4 even now (alarms cannot deal with move to GMT from BST for example). With WP7 you are buying into one of the most promising new mobile phone OS's of recent times IMHO, with the HD7 in particular, you are getting a cool big screen device from a company that has built up a good name for itself in the industry. I currently own the HTC Desire and the HTC HD7. I will be keeping the Desire only until the Kindle app and HTML5/ Flash land for WP7, then that will go on Ebay.
My only fear is that because MS decided to launch without one or two features (Flash/ CutnPaste and turn by turn Nav) it will get hammered by the critics in the tech press and be stillborn. This would be a tragedy - the more competition there is in the smartphone space the better for the consumer.
I also hope the handset manufacturers give it the attention it deserves, recent reports on build quality issues with the HTC Trophy do not bode well
That's a conclusive argument
I'm mainly after one as I'm a software developer and I'm interested in the app platform. Looks good. I will go get one today
Ive had mine a day and love it. Was running andoird on my HD2 previously and loved that. But I love the HD7 more. Ye the app market isnt as large as the other major two OS but I can live with that and times will change.
I had an iphone last year and once you get over the intiial hysteria of having millions of useless apps to download and amuse yourself with its not so important.
Ive not had any bugs with the HD7 yet. What issues have people come across.
My only gripe is that Im stuck with crappy Vodafone until 2012
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May I ask why?
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Sure, I loved it in the first 2 days but these 4 main reasons cropped up:
1. The phone would crash/lockup, it did this about 6 times in the week I had it.
2.The hard buttons (on/off, volume, camera) had NO click to them, they were completely soft, so I ended up pressing them all the time by accident, I launched the camera so many times when just holding the phone.
3.The case I was sold with it from the O2 store actually marked the back of it. ( a Leather one with a strap you pull to get it out, don't buy it)
4. I had huge doubts about the overall quality of the device, I really really don't think it would last for 18 months.
I understand 1 (possibly) and 3 were not the fault of the actual device but after issues 2 and 4 cropped up I just decided to return it and got a Omnia 7 instead.
So far for me the Omnia 7 is much better, seems much more higher build quality and its made from metal, the buttons have a nice satisfying click to them, and the screen is just gorgeous, aswell as it being much faster at loading apps and games.
The only reason I took the HD7 over the Omnia 7 in the first place was the double storage but that's not worth the trade off for me.
Oh Yes!!
Having bought an iPhone when they first came out and then giving it to one of our engineers within a week (he thought all his birthdays had come at once!) as deemed useless for true functionality compared with WM6. And then enjoyed my Touch HD I was in eager anticipation of the HD7.
Absolutely love it
Good OS - and looking forward to the updates
Brilliant device - everybody that sees it drools over it and rushes to renew their contract
I have been using email on my mobiles for years and have to say that the HD7 is by far the most brilliant device for actually 'doing business' on the move - big & bright and cool to use
Edit: Forgot to mention - the Office Hub is a 'killer': Was at a presentation yesterday with 2min before I stood up and realised I needed info from a spreadsheet which I thought was on my HD7 (but wasn't) - it took me 30secs to get it! - try doing that with an Android or iPhone...
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The only issue I have so far is the battery life but I've only done a couple of charges so hopefully that will improve.
It's early days for me but at the moment I am happier than I thought I would be. I'm trying Zune pass at the moment and really liking it. Maybe I didn't need the 16GB after all.
I though about the Omnia 7 but didn't want another 18/24 month contract and the PAYG prices being thrown around were a lot more expensive. Plus, I couldn't actually find anyone selling it on PAYG!
Had it for a bit now, had a few bugs happen, but I would not change it for any other phone out there.
Omnia 7 is a 100% no go for me because of the 8gb memory, I only have about 500meg left on my HD7 and will be ugrading to 32gb asap.
Im still not convinced in AMOLED screens, the colours never look right to me and the edges arnt smooth (looking at my sisters and aunts desires) The look stunning, but they dont look real if that makes sence? I would have loved to have an SLCD in it though. But to be honest the HD7 screen looks fantastic because I have the backlight on 100% all the time.
Battery life isnt that bad, it could be better, but it IS better than my HD2's was.
Biggest niggle is bluetooth audio streaming of music doesnt seem to be as high as quality as my HD2s theres everso slight distortion on high notes. Not that noticable, but enough to niggle me.
Once the updates start to roll out its going to be an incredible device.
Im wondering if an update will be rolled out when the US launch happens? why else would it be delayed? or at least im hoping the promised 60 xbox live that were supposed to be available at launch will be availble at the american launch.
Overall best phone I have ever used, the user experiance is fantastic, its just so nice to use every day, and that completely overruls any niggles I have had, which no doubt will be sorted very soon.
Had mine unlocked for 24h now and just learning the OS but what i'm seeing is fantastic! I've come from a HD2 where as soon as i got it i flashed a custom rom then ran adroid on it for ages but now i could never go back even after 24h!!!
there are a few niggles, coming from android where you had settings for everything there does seem to be a real lack of options just the basics to to get you through, i also cant see how to add a picture to a contact who isnt on my facebook?????
i agree with whats been posted before, this OS has the potential to be the best one out there it just needs to grow.
I've had mine for 2 weeks now and love it! Yes some things are missing and there are a few bugs in the OS, but I'm willing to persiverre because what it does give it does really well.
I had an HD2 with Energy's custome roms for a year now and I am so over HTC Sense (I used earlier versions on my Diamond and Orbit too)and now the "new" HTC apps looks very dated amongst the WP7 Metro apps.
Email, something I could not really get working very well on my HD2, runs like a dream on WP7 and I'm turning into a sick email junkie (help!).
As for the screen, everyone keeps knocking this phone in favour of the Samsung, but in reality, the screen on the HD7 is better than the HD2 and can hold it's own. Might not look as good next to a Samsung, but who cares? Are you going to hold an HD7 and Samsung next to each other 24/7? No? Then you won't notice the difference.
Is the email better on the WP7 than Android. The email on Android drove me up the wall with its bugs and weird behaviour. I have seen a few people on this thread mention positively the email so I am hopeful.
Yes, without a doubt, sure it has a few bugs that Microsoft can fix, but these will not stop me loving this device, never going back to an iPhone again, I'll be sticking to Windows Phone or Android devices from here on in, I had the 3GS then the iPhone 4 and now it's on Ebay as I got bored with it
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Is the email better on the WP7 than Android.
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You can pinch and zoom with HTML email which is fantastically useful, and keeps the email as the sender intended. From my understanding (Neowin WP7 vs Android Communication Comparison) Android doesn't do this.
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You can pinch and zoom with HTML email which is fantastically useful, and keeps the email as the sender intended. From my understanding (Neowin WP7 vs Android Communication Comparison) Android doesn't do this.
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The main problems I had with Android was that I often had issues setting up POP email accounts on it. Also could behave oddly when picking up messages, I used to get phantom messages or it would not pick them up correctly or in some cases at all.
oh yes i would, though tbh i would of sold my fish tank and got it on payg and unlocked it as o2 contract prices are so steep and the coverage i not as good as tmobile (not sure if this is the same everywhere but around where i live its the case). I will be honest if it wasn't for the fact all other devices are only 8gb i would not have gone for the hd7 but rather the omnia but there is no way i can live with 8gb. The only annoying thing is that when i'm playing games i sometimes touch the search button esp if i have the phone plugged in at the time due to the way i then have to hold it, but if you press back it goes right back to where you left off.
in conclusion it was not my phone of choice but my hand was forced by the internal storage but i am glad it was, the omnia is no better and my second choice mozart seems cheap and to smiler to my old desire. I love the size of the phone i was worried when i first saw it but the shape is like nothing i have ever seen and make it slip into the pocket easier then my old desire and yet i get all that screen.
Quick question guys. Does the HD7 not have a flash? I thought it does.
Yes, the HD7 has a dual LED flash (at least mine does!)
So I never used a hd7 before. I have played with it briefly and think the hardware is awesome. I like the soft keys more than hard keys and the screen looks really good imo. The other day I did the hd2 mod for wp7, but am now thinking of actually buying an hd7. What do you guys think? Should I buy one or just use hd2 with wp7?
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So I never used a hd7 before. I have played with it briefly and think the hardware is awesome. I like the soft keys more than hard keys and the screen looks really good imo. The other day I did the hd2 mod for wp7, but am now thinking of actually buying an hd7. What do you guys think? Should I buy one or just use hd2 with wp7?
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I say wait and see if Microsoft takes actions against these HD2 users... Though, I have to say my HD7 feels nicer in my hand than my HD2 did, love both devices though
If you have the disposable income or want to sell your HD2 I would say go for it. I kept my HD2. I love the possibilities that come from it and the potential that still awaits it. Currently it is bringing joy into my wife's life while I'm using the HD7.
I do think the hardware is slightly improved on the HD7: kickstand, screen, capacative buttons, and general appearance is "classier." But the HD2 will always be the hacker / tinkerer's dream phone.
Its all personal preference, but I personally have 0 regrets from adding the HD7 into my starting lineup.
The kick stand is surprisingly a lot more useful than I anticipated. Having a 10 hour flight in a few days so I look foward to using it even more.
If you can afford an hd7 (its pretty cheap for a smart phone) id go for it.
I'd keep your hd2 so you can run android on it. I'm pipe dreaming I can load android on the hd7 one day.
I just like to try different OS though (i also have an iphone for fun)
The capacitive soft keys are great EXCEPT... they are extremely easy to press accidentally. Countless times I've been watching a movie or playing a game and hit one of the buttons. It's fairly annoying.
Well right now my Samsung Captivate is my phone. I hate it to death. I find Android way too buggy. I don't like Apples hardware (small screen, so boxy) and the iOS looks too busy to me. Blackberry doesn't have enough apps and Palm (I'm sorry, HP), well, lets just leave them out of this.
So that leaves Windows Phone. I've been researching it for awhile, and being a graphic designer, I really love how the os looks and how it functions. I am on AT&T, and have heard good things about the HD7. The HD7S for AT&T brings the better screen, and I've also heard the camera is improved (although still 5MP.)
However....I've heard lots of horror stories about battery life. I'm not sure if NoDo improved it at all, that would also be nice to find out. Googling it has been inconclusive. The HD7S comes with the same 1230mAh battery, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience specially with the HD7 and this (or a similar) 1700mAh battery? Any help, thoughts, comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
edit: Apparently since I'm new I can't post links. But anyways, just type in "1700mah battery hd7" on ebay, and it should come up, from Great Britain.
My suggestion would be to purchase it, and test it for a days against the original, and then post your results back here.
Although it will fit without the need for a back cover, I highly doubt it has a charge life of 1700mAh! But im willing to be proved wrong if you want to buy and test for the community...
He doesn't own the phone yet though he says he's thinking of getting it. Adam you're right to be a bit concerned about the 1230 battery. If you use the phone heavily it will struggle to last the day. But if you check Amazon the reviews day the 1500 batteries are in fact worse coz they're not as good quality as OEM HTC. I'd recommend yo leave the hd7 and look at the Samsung omnia 7 I wish id done this
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My suggestion would be to purchase it, and test it for a days against the original, and then post your results back here.
Although it will fit without the need for a back cover, I highly doubt it has a charge life of 1700mAh! But im willing to be proved wrong if you want to buy and test for the community...
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Yea, probably a good idea. I've heard some people are fine with the battery life.
He doesn't own the phone yet though he says he's thinking of getting it. Adam you're right to be a bit concerned about the 1230 battery. If you use the phone heavily it will struggle to last the day. But if you check Amazon the reviews day the 1500 batteries are in fact worse coz they're not as good quality as OEM HTC. I'd recommend you leave the hd7 and look at the Samsung omnia 7 I wish id done this
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Hmm. That phone does look great. And for an unlocked price it's quite affordable. I also like that it has a super AMOLED screen. That's what my captivate has, and it's the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device (besides the iPhone 4.) The blacks just blend into the bezel, the colors are vibrant, and the viewing angles are fantastic. Will this phone fully work with AT&T 3G? (7.2MBP). If it does, I think it just replaced the HD7 for Windows Phone candidate.
Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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Completely understand that. When I got my HD7 I was amazed by the OS, and the UI, but after a couple of months it does wear off and then you care more about the apps which are lacking. Some blow the iPhone/Android versions away like IMDB and Facebook. But then there's no Amazon app in the UK yet and the eBay app is a bit iffy. Games are another problem, there's the odd good indie gaming coming through like NinjaBoy and Mars Runner, but not many others. Rest of the games are Microsoft's xbox-branded titles but they are usually very overpriced.
The reason I'd recommend the Samsung is the great screen like you say, and the touch screen will hopefully be better than the HD7 which isn't perfect.
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Yea, probably a good idea. I've heard some people are fine with the battery life.
Hmm. That phone does look great. And for an unlocked price it's quite affordable. I also like that it has a super AMOLED screen. That's what my captivate has, and it's the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device (besides the iPhone 4.) The blacks just blend into the bezel, the colors are vibrant, and the viewing angles are fantastic. Will this phone fully work with AT&T 3G? (7.2MBP). If it does, I think it just replaced the HD7 for Windows Phone candidate.
Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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The HD7S doesnt have a SAMOLED screen... it just has a superlcd screen... lot different.
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Completely understand that. When I got my HD7 I was amazed by the OS, and the UI, but after a couple of months it does wear off and then you care more about the apps which are lacking. Some blow the iPhone/Android versions away like IMDB and Facebook. But then there's no Amazon app in the UK yet and the eBay app is a bit iffy. Games are another problem, there's the odd good indie gaming coming through like NinjaBoy and Mars Runner, but not many others. Rest of the games are Microsoft's xbox-branded titles but they are usually very overpriced.
The reason I'd recommend the Samsung is the great screen like you say, and the touch screen will hopefully be better than the HD7 which isn't perfect.
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Well, I was playing with the HD7 today in the Microsoft Store, and I do really like the phone. Plus when I just read an article by Computer World saying:
Android will dominate global smartphone operating system sales over the next four years, while Windows Phone-based Nokia devices will displace other platforms to surge to second place in 2015, Gartner said in a forecast issued Thursday.
The latest Gartner forecast also shows the Apple's iPhone OS will drop to third behind the Windows Phone software in 2015, while Research in Motion's will dip to the fourth spot that year. IDC has forecast the same overall 2015 rankings.
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But Windows Phone's move into second place by 2015 is the biggest change from prior forecasts. "Gartner has revised its forecast of Windows Phone's market share upward, solely by virtue of Microsoft's alliance with Nokia," Gartner said in a statement.
Gartner analyst Roberta Cozza explained the Windows Phone growth, noting that Nokia will be able to sell Windows Phones at lower prices than many smartphones sold today and to sell them globally through an extensive sales channel.
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So these make me feel more confident that more apps are going to be coming. Also, apparently the Omnia 7 is the Samsung Focus in the US, and the Focus looks butt ugly in my opinion, so I'm gonna stick with the HD7S I think. I could import it from the UK, but then it would be more expensive since it wouldn't be on contract.
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So these make me feel more confident that more apps are going to be coming. Also, apparently the Omnia 7 is the Samsung Focus in the US, and the Focus looks butt ugly in my opinion, so I'm gonna stick with the HD7S I think. I could import it from the UK, but then it would be more expensive since it wouldn't be on contract.
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I'm pretty sure the cases are different and the Omnia feels a lot more expensive to hold in the hand, if that helps at all.
I'm annoyed with my HD7 as I'm considering selling it, but the sharp edge at the bottom has some chips in it even though I've looked after it. That's gonna affect trade in value and it's only a few months old. Think it will always happen due to the design of the phone.
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I'm pretty sure the cases are different and the Omnia feels a lot more expensive to hold in the hand, if that helps at all.
I'm annoyed with my HD7 as I'm considering selling it, but the sharp edge at the bottom has some chips in it even though I've looked after it. That's gonna affect trade in value and it's only a few months old. Think it will always happen due to the design of the phone.
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What do you mean by it had chips in it because of the sharp edges?
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What do you mean by it had chips in it because of the sharp edges?
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Look at a picture of the HD7 and you'll see the top and bottom have grills surrounded by a sharp edge of metal. This is painted, so it chips easily - well it does on my phone anyway.
Knowing this I wish I'd put my phone in a case but my iPhone wasn't in a case and held up much better.
I do not believe that the Omnia 7 will work in the US at all. I may be wrong on this but I know that it will not work here in Canada at all.
The Hardware, etc of the Samsung Focus is indeed the same as the Omnia 7 and the one plus about the Focus is that it has an external sd card slot to expand memory where the Omnia 7 does not however... I agree... The Focus is one UGLY phone!!!
I have an HD7 with regular screen and yes... After having my Galaxy S and my Nexus S with SAMOLED screens, you can definitely tell the difference in color, brightness, etc but it is really NOT all that BAD so at this time I would recommend the HD7S with the S-LCD screen from ATT and I think you will be happy.
PS... Buy me one with the S-LCD screen and ship it to me here in Canada... LOL!!!
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I do not believe that the Omnia 7 will work in the US at all. I may be wrong on this but I know that it will not work here in Canada at all.
The Hardware, etc of the Samsung Focus is indeed the same as the Omnia 7 and the one plus about the Focus is that it has an external sd card slot to expand memory where the Omnia 7 does not however... I agree... The Focus is one UGLY phone!!!
I have an HD7 with regular screen and yes... After having my Galaxy S and my Nexus S with SAMOLED screens, you can definitely tell the difference in color, brightness, etc but it is really NOT all that BAD so at this time I would recommend the HD7S with the S-LCD screen from ATT and I think you will be happy.
PS... Buy me one with the S-LCD screen and ship it to me here in Canada... LOL!!!
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Haha yea, that's the plan. (Not shipping it to Canada though ) It comes out June 5, but I'm gonna wait until June 6 to buy it since Apple is having their conference, and I want to see what the the new iPhone will have to offer.
Local AT&T store just called. HD7S stock just arrived and they have my name on one for a Sunday pick up. After three plus years of Energy ROMs on a Fuze then a Tilt 2, I'm movin' on up. Life is good.
Lol u will love it! Life is good with an OS like wp7
You will have to let us know how it compares to the Fuze, screen apparence, physical keyboard vs the on screen. How is the vibration comparitively? Supposedly they upgraded the camera also, so will you let us in on all the hardware goodies, pretty please?
Got it !!
The HD7S is not a bad PDA - I am happy. Nice workmanship, feels solid. The vibrator is lighter than the Tilt 2 and the Fuze, but I can still feel it in my pocket. The screen is definitely bright enough for me (my eyes seem to be having some sort of increasing birthday issues) and the font crisp and well contrasted. The phone works and gets good reception at the house. (NOTE: The reason I use AT&T is that after trying others they consistently give me 2-3 bars at home vice 0-1 with the others). Call quality is good.
The only negative surprise is minor. The USB connection on the HD7S is micro not mini, so I have to get a mini-to-micro adapter or a second USB cable so I can charge it at night at bedside (so I can also answer it) and have a cable connected to the PC to sync with.
I have a LOT of work to do to configure and get WP7 the way I want it, but that is the fun of owning a new phone.
I will likely miss NRG and the new ROM loads 2-3 times per month, but a (much) faster, more capable PDA and operating system is not a bad thing. Besides, my wife now has the Tilt 2 so I can still install new NRG ROMs to my heart's content.
For now, I'm a happy camper.
You might be surprised to find that you don't in fact miss installing ROMs . WP is nice like that.
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Quick question guys i went out yesterday 5 and got the hd7s from att but question is i have windows xp 32bit computer how can i unlock this beast please can i get a little insight here thanks in adavance .
Awesome thanks, keep us posted on how it is working hardware wise, congrats. Enjoy.
I just picked up an hd7s yesterday on launch day.. awesome phone.
I was an Android developer with 2 apps in the top 20 of their categories until google banned my developer account so I decided to go with wp7. I would definately say this hd7s absolutely blows away any android phone out. Everything is responsive and fast, with all android phones there was always a very slight but noticable lag with everything you did such as button presses, swiping, etc.. The screen on this phone is awesome, I have it sitting next to my nexus one right now which has a super amoled screen, and it definately blows it away.. I'll try to post some comparison pics later
My rating for the hd7s: 9.5/10
I am really glad you like your WP7 phone -- welcome to the family .
I'm surprised to see you say that the HD7S screen "blows away" an AMOLED one...
I have a Dell Venue Pro and an HD7 and concluded that the HD7S doesn't even come close to the DVP's AMOLED screen, and is only marginally better -- if at all -- than the old-fashioned TFT LCD on the HD7.
Regardless of the characteristics of the screen though I agree that the whole experience is more fluid than even very powerful Android phones I've seen.
Happiness continues
Wow, I am super impressed with the Bluetooth and WiFi ease of use and speed and strength of connection when compared to both the Fuze and Tilt 2. (Yes, both both the latest, most bestest radios ... forgive slaughter of the English.) The GPS response on the HD7S is also much better and faster.
I knew in advance that WP7 and Outlook did not communicate well and had already set up the Zune and WindowsLive accounts to assure quick and "automatic" sync of Contacts and Calendar. This worked exactly as advertised (whether you like it or not). It did sync and within minutes of activating the phone and telling it what my Windows Live address was it synced and calendar and contact info populated the HD7S.
What I did not anticipate is that the "other" info on both calendar and contacts did not populate and there is no way for it even to show up in wp7. Yet I know that the calendar and contacts are fully and identically readable on Windows Live/MSN. For example, I use the "Notes" portion of a calendar item to copy the inviting e-mail, or directions or maps or - most importantly - the agenda for a meeting. These things do not sync for some reason (or I screwed something up or "there is an app for that" and I just haven't found it yet.)
Minor, but a pain in the....uh, never mind, I don't want to be accused of doing a Weiner.
Mango to solve?
Welcome to the WP7 family lol. I for one do not in any way miss flashing a new rom every 2 weeks or so. When I finally got fed up with winmo, I briefly switched to android by flashing my HD2 with dft's nand magldr. IDK exactly what it was about android that never gave me that "fulfillment" that winmo gave me but I gave WP7 a try and I never looked back!
Still OK ?
Things still going well integrating the HD7S and WP7 into my life. And, surprisingly, there is a life after weekly WM6.5 ROM loads. NO issues and the one I did have reading my contact and calendar notes seems to have disappeared since I can now do so, but not PDFs and pictures. So I make sure that the agendas and directions etc I put into calendater "notes" are in plain text etc. And what the heck, a pretty agenda is no more informative than it is in plain text. But those are WP7 issues.
With the HD7S itself I see no issues with "new" stuff: the screen is a bit better and present me with no problems. The "pinking" of the photos taken on the HD7 do not appear to my eyes and the goldish color underneath the kickstand is not peeling (unless HTC or AT&T tells me it's real gold, then they will have big time peeling issues with your phones, not mine.)
Looks like we can just fold into the HD7 forums seamlessly and rest assured that any problems that affect it will affect the HD7S and vice versa.
What's your experience?
Quick question deryl, I just received mine in the mail and it is a beautiful piece of machinery, however I find that my power button is spongey like has no click feeling... Do you or anyone else who owns this phone feel the same?
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Quick question deryl, I just received mine in the mail and it is a beautiful piece of machinery, however I find that my power button is spongey like has no click feeling... Do you or anyone else who owns this phone feel the same?
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It's not supposed to click.
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It's not supposed to click.
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Exactly the answer I was looking for lol Thanks
To click or not to click...
Truckerdewd is correct.
Our phones on/off do not click crisply as do some, but softly and not even with a "click". There is a difference between the HD7 and the HD7S in that the complaints from some about the on/off button being too difficult reach and maneuver in the HD7, was solved by slightly raising the button heighth but not so much that it will activate in the pocket. I learned that from a utube or podcast review of the HD7S a few weeks ago.
I am also told that the camera button was also a bit difficult to activate. Supposedly it works ok, just hard to engage since it sat a bit low in the housing. But it seems that they raised that button as well because it works just fine for me. The proof will be in the pudding since taking a nice still of Mt Rainier is not the same as capturing a bank robber in the act. Not that I plan to take the latter picure.
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Truckerdewd is correct.
Our phones on/off do not click crisply as do some, but softly and not even with a "click". There is a difference between the HD7 and the HD7S in that the complaints from some about the on/off button being too difficult reach and maneuver in the HD7, was solved by slightly raising the button heighth but not so much that it will activate in the pocket. I learned that from a utube or podcast review of the HD7S a few weeks ago.
I am also told that the camera button was also a bit difficult to activate. Supposedly it works ok, just hard to engage since it sat a bit low in the housing. But it seems that they raised that button as well because it works just fine for me. The proof will be in the pudding since taking a nice still of Mt Rainier is not the same as capturing a bank robber in the act. Not that I plan to take the latter picure.
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I have an HD7 from T-Mobile and don't have any problems with the buttons. Got it at the end of April and have had no problems at all with it. I also have a myTouxh 4G and have no problems with the buttons on it either, the power button doesn't click on it either. Nor did the HD2 I had before these. I think you'll find that HTC makes a quality product. I've never had any problems with any HTC phone
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Any way to enable modem tethering on this phone like with the T-Mobile HD7?
HS7S Pocketnow Review
Adam Z Lein today did a pretty full review of our AT&T HD7S on the Pocketnow website. It includes a rehash of some of the HD7 (T-Mobile) complaints (buttons, pink pics, etc) and some unboxing vids as well as some pretty good hands-on and use comparisons. All-in-all Adam did a fair and unbiased review that exposed both warts (screen in sunlight not that much better than HD7, color banding not much improved) and smiles (battery life and button operation).
What I especially appreciated is Adam seeming to confirm what I was beginning to suspect: for my same usage patterns, the HD7S battery life is way way way better (even though it has a smaller capacity battery - 1500 mah versus 1230 mah) than my much beloved by me Tilt 2.
derylmccarty said:
Adam Z Lein today did a pretty full review of our AT&T HD7S on the Pocketnow website. It includes a rehash of some of the HD7 (T-Mobile) complaints (buttons, pink pics, etc) and some unboxing vids as well as some pretty good hands-on and use comparisons. All-in-all Adam did a fair and unbiased review that exposed both warts (screen in sunlight not that much better than HD7, color banding not much improved) and smiles (battery life and button operation).
What I especially appreciated is Adam seeming to confirm what I was beginning to suspect: for my same usage patterns, the HD7S battery life is way way way better (even though it has a smaller capacity battery - 1500 mah versus 1230 mah) than my much beloved by me Tilt 2.
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I don't have any of these reported issues on my HD7
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well about two weeks a go i started looking into the hd7 because of the mango update. And well im really glad i did! I used to have WP7 on my HD2, and well that doesn't even compare to an actual WP7 device.
It is sooooo responsive and silky smooth even with all my music synced up. I came from the Sensation 4g, and i honestly think the HD7 screen handles colors a lottt better. The thing i dont like is that the apps that were free on android arent on WP7 (ex:XDA), but that big of a deal. Also the power button doesnt click, it handles like a touch sensitive button with the TPU case i have on. other than that i dont really miss android or the sensation. Best of all i got it for a steal on ebay of all places, usually craigslist has better prices.
well that all i can think of right now cuz of my add lol. but yep to sum it up WP7= the sizznit.
I too had an HD2 with WP7... If only they could have solved the touchscreen driver issue, I'd still have it I reckon...