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looks for screen protector made out of gorilla glass

I've seen it for other phones, but I want one for my Nexus 7. My 6 and 2 year olds will be using it from time to time and no telling where their grubby hands have been. Anywho, can anyone tell me the name of the screen protectors that are made out of gorilla glass?

johnomaz said:
I've seen it for other phones, but I want one for my Nexus 7. My 6 and 2 year olds will be using it from time to time and no telling where their grubby hands have been. Anywho, can anyone tell me the name of the screen protectors that are made out of gorilla glass?
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I fail to see how a screen protector made out of gorilla glass is going to do anything more than a normal screen protector.

mrsatan said:
I fail to see how a screen protector made out of gorilla glass is going to do anything more than a normal screen protector.
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I know the gorilla glass is strong but I dont' want the actual screen to get scratched. If the protector gets scratched, fine. After enough of them, I can replace it. But I have had in the past screen protectors start to peel up on the edge or get a bubble going along the edge. Since they are flexible, they can peel back or snag. I've seen the glass protectors before online and they seem to stick better since they aren't flexible and though a few scratches won't made it impossible to read, they do get annoying.

johnomaz said:
I know the gorilla glass is strong but I dont' want the actual screen to get scratched. If the protector gets scratched, fine. After enough of them, I can replace it. But I have had in the past screen protectors start to peel up on the edge or get a bubble going along the edge. Since they are flexible, they can peel back or snag. I've seen the glass protectors before online and they seem to stick better since they aren't flexible and though a few scratches won't made it impossible to read, they do get annoying.
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Just buy a high quality matte screen protector, that way you won't get grubby finger prints all over it and it will protect it from scratches. :good:

Xgear is in the process of making one now. It's not gorilla glass that I know of but is tempered glass. I had one on my Gnex and loved it!
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Gorilla Glass is a trademark of (I think) Corning so unless they make it it won't be GG. I've used tempered glass protectors on camera viewfinders before and been very happy with them but it would be a huge pita trying to fit one to a Nex7 without bubbles/dust/fingerprints underneath and fitting it straight. Better to buy a heavy duty plastic type one and replace as and when needed. My preference is for matt.

I Would agree that a glass screen protector will not Place any added protection over a brand name heavy conventional screen protector. When you see these devices with a cracked screen . The cracks are always from the edge . Caused by the bezel hitting the screen. I would say as others Put a very thick screen protector and a rubber case on it.. I am using the amzer impact resistant case. It will help minor dings. but still not thick enough .. I been watching the bobjgear case site. i LIKE THE look of the round frame to protect the device..

The glass of each have the advantage of feeling like glass. They are also harder to dent and scratch that a film protector.
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They make GG screen protectors?
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Spigen also makes a brand called GLAS.t that's tempered glass. Not sure if they have one for the Nexus 7

Thanks guys!

I don't see how a glass SP would solve anything outside a normal screen protector. I recommend a matte for its fingerprint resistance but sounds like you want a crystal transparent.
Gorilla glass aint all its cracked up to be. There isn't a big enough bevel on the N7 thus it'll sit taller then the rest. Sorta like a watch with a dome glass. It'll be more open to scratches and catch stuff for scratches and breakage.
Honestly I'd recommend one from SGP but not the glass. Theirs are much thicker then normal to provide more protection.
Do you think that if the gorilla glass breaks that it won't scratch your real screen with removal. I don't want to think of scrapping broken glass off my nexus. The impact alone would probably scratch up the actual screen or worse.
Grab yourself a TPU case and a quality SP from SGP and you'll be fine with the kids. My 5 year old has his own Galaxy 7 and beat it all up... but the device itself looks great.
I just don't see the benefit here. I also don't think anyone makes those for tablets... and if they did it would probably be costly.
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XGear "Phantasm" Tempered Glass SP *JUST* got released. I made a seperate thread for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899088
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Moshi Screen Protector Visor

Anybody ever try this?
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/screen-protectors/sku6280704.html#fbid=rkaXUfy0tjG

I haven't tried it but it sounds very interesting. Be very careful when you choose a screen protector. I have had a Copter screen protector on my Note 2 now for 2 days and it looks like a dartboard. It's to soft for the. S-Pen stylus. Even before the damage caused by the S-Pen reading small text was impossible due to the structure of the plastic film. $20 down the drain.

Interesting find. I have moshi palm guard for my 17" mbp since day one and it's held up very well against my watch and tungsten bracelet.

interesting for sure.... I am waiting for Spigen to release there glass cover for the SN2. I am happy with there lines of things. I picked up the Valentinus however a bit leery since my cards and all touch the screen.

mzimand said:
Anybody ever try this?
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/screen-protectors/sku6280704.html#fbid=rkaXUfy0tjG
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I tried it with my Note 1, and didn't like it at all. Although it did protect the screen and was definitely reusable, I always saw it and found it obscured the screen too much for me.

If you like the "anti-glare" versions of other screen protectors you will like it. There is only adhesive on the outer rim so it is impossible to get a bubble on the actual display. However like other anti-glare protectors it will reduce visibility.If you are used to the crystal clear protectors I would not recommend it.

webdave said:
If you like the "anti-glare" versions of other screen protectors you will like it. There is only adhesive on the outer rim so it is impossible to get a bubble on the actual display. However like other anti-glare protectors it will reduce visibility.If you are used to the crystal clear protectors I would not recommend it.
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I was wondering how it adhered to the screen, thanks for the info.
I really like going without a screen protector but I am thinking that it will add strength to the screen in case it drops or bends(sit on it)

Spigen said they aren't making it due to the curved glass.
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mzimand said:
I was wondering how it adhered to the screen, thanks for the info.
I really like going without a screen protector but I am thinking that it will add strength to the screen in case it drops or bends(sit on it)
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I don't think it will give it any more strength. The protector itself is not that rigid.

How many here got tempered glass instead of regular screen protector?

Hello,
So I have had been using Jettech tempered glass for my Note 5 since I got it last year and recently saw a crack on it and I was like how the heck I was like let me see if it's on the screen and
lol the whole thing cracked.
So I had a set of screen protectors at home for note 5 and I put that one. Now it's thin and doesn't even feel like there anything on the screen and the screen looks so beautiful colors and all but I'm worried-do we really need tempered glass protectors?
I've seen knife tests and all and this phone survives without any struggle so shouldn't this screen protector be enough?
What do you guys think? I do have a Spigen case on it-with in-built shock absorber and what not.

It depends on how anal you are. I assure you you will get a scratch at some point.

I got tempered glass because I didn't want a peice of plastic. Recently I watched a video about tempered glass and saw tempered glass can take a hit. If the tempered glass is hit at a specific way/angle then it shatters. But it can defiantly take a hit and prevent scratches

xnappo said:
It depends on how anal you are. I assure you you will get a scratch at some point.
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djhulk2 said:
I got tempered glass because I didn't want a peice of plastic. Recently I watched a video about tempered glass and saw tempered glass can take a hit. If the tempered glass is hit at a specific way/angle then it shatters. But it can defiantly take a hit and prevent scratches
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I understand but my question is should I get tempered glass or I'm fine with screen protector I have.
I already put one on but it's not tempered it's the regular one. Not sure how durable this is but my screen definitely looks better lol maybe because it's not that thick haha

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. If you have a decent lip on your case I don't think the glass buys you a whole lot. With a slim case without much lip, I think they have saved my phone's screens a couple of times.

I'd say go for glass. Plastic is plastic. Glass a few dollars more for a reason)

Tempered glass here
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I got the zagg plastic xtreme I think...comes with front and back protect.
It is nice on the back too...no more fingerprints.
I don't have any scratches yet. I can sort of rub light scratches right out...kind of cool.

Tempered glass will give you the height protection against scratches and impact, better clarity, last longer, better feel in hand sometimes better feel then the glass phone itself, less fingerprints. Tg is also better then a "shatter film" because it has better ratio between scratches and impact resistance.
There is no debate here...

I have tempered glass just because its clearer than plastic and is easier to clean. Its not super thick so i dont really mind also for the extra protection on such a exspensive phone.
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Tempered glass is the best way to go. It provides better protection, is very hard to scratch, doesnt impact optics, and is easier to apply. No brainer.

I'd stick with what we all know, tempered glass. Just purchased the Note 5 from a private party seller and luckily it didn't have many scratches from the previous owner NOT having a screen protector on.
Purchased the glass and am loving it.
They're cheap AF on amazon and as good of quality as the $50 ones in stores.

Well I dropped my phone from pocket height yesterday, it fell face down, and sure enough I seen a crack across the screen. I am using the caselogy that covers the edges, so when I peeled back the tempered glass...it was just the temperd glass cracked. Ordered a new 1 on eBay for 5 dollars, this glass lasted 4 months

Ok guys- even though when I bought the phone new I had tempered glass on it and I was just lazy to order another one since I already had regular screen protector with me.
I'll order one - It's by company JTtech - 9.99 on Amazon prime.
I just got lazy and to be honest- the tests on youtube shows that the bare screen of the phone is very resilient so I shrugged it off.
I'll order it today. I also have Spigen case on with raised edges.

I've got about 6 different tempered glass screen protectors because I can't stand the feel of the plastic screen protectors...
Mind you the screen on my note 5 is a freaking joke. I went about a month without a screen protector and my screen is scratched to all hell. And that's just from pocket use... So in the end it doesn't matter which one you go with, just use a screen protector.

It's not entirely how anal you are. I haven't used them in years and never had a problem because I would always keep my phone in a pocket which I was sure was empty. However I tried an oleo phobic tempered glass screen protector from Benks. It is hard to get it on perfectly, but it is great in that the screen is much more slippery for the swipe keyboard usage and also it never shows fingerprints on the screen any more. (Also this is not as important but I like it that it removes/hides/covers up the obnoxious 'Samsung' logo.) If you but them, buy more than one because if you mess up putting it on then you have a spare (which you would eventually use anyway). I recently dropped my phone for the first time and freaked out - but my case and the Benks tempered glass protector together completely protected the phone - with a big crack across the screen - which disappeared when I peeled off the protector!
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Everyone has
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Tempered glass screen protectors are the way to go. The only way tempered glass can crack or break is if the edge or corner is hit (I should know, i work with tempered glass everyday) and since these protectors are so thin, there is only a fine edge on it, nearly impossible to hit with something, even though i had something hit that fine edge at work. i get all my tempered glass protectors off Amazon, $4 - $7, as compared to $35 for a Zagg temp glass protector in stores, or even $25 for a plastic protector.

Tempered glass is best
But does anyone have the halo? I put mine on perfectly centered and I've got a hell of a halo. I was wondering if there's no halo with a plastic screen protector. That would be one reason to vote for plastic.

jksell07 said:
But does anyone have the halo? I put mine on perfectly centered and I've got a hell of a halo. I was wondering if there's no halo with a plastic screen protector. That would be one reason to vote for plastic.
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On my second tempered glass, and haven't seen any halos.

Recommended screen protector?

I just received an IQ Shield Matte screen protector and I'm really disappointed. It screws up the colors and whites have a rainbow effect to them. I took it off and now I'm looking for a new one. I'd like one that is:
1. Anti-glare
2. Anti-fingerprint
3. Clear and doesn't screw with this beautiful display.
Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance!

Thee one and only,,,,but more importantly expensive whitestone dome screen protector is probably the most I've heard of working...45 to 50 dollars tho

Any you can recommend about $20 and under?

First I tried the Spigen NeoFlex film screen protectors and they are garbage. Then I ordered a cheapo full cover tempered glass screen protector from eBay and it works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Full-Cov...ector-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-/332345555824
I've only been using it for about a week so I can't say how well it will keep dust out. Sensitivity is great, I don't notice it's on at all. It's not Anti-glare or Anti-fingerprint but it's only $8.

I'm using the i-blason tempered glass.
Under $20, it's still on, doesn't interfere with the screen.
It's still going to collect fingerprints and smudges due to the oils in our skin, but it wipes off easily.

jellyhead said:
First I tried the Spigen NeoFlex film screen protectors and they are garbage. Then I ordered a cheapo full cover tempered glass screen protector from eBay and it works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Full-Cov...ector-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-/332345555824
I've only been using it for about a week so I can't say how well it will keep dust out. Sensitivity is great, I don't notice it's on at all. It's not Anti-glare or Anti-fingerprint but it's only $8.
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thats becuz the neoflex is a rubber 3m film, not plasti-glass. i honestly like Spigen Neoflex screen protector. only downfall is using the pen on it leaves lines where youve drawn .. but cant be felt by your touch
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mlock420 said:
Thee one and only,,,,but more importantly expensive whitestone dome screen protector is probably the most I've heard of working...45 to 50 dollars tho
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I've never seen this warning before on anything from Amazon.

roaduardo said:
I've never seen this warning before on anything from Amazon.
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Somebody got a knock off, I read. The screen protector he got was plastic instead of glass.
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roaduardo said:
I've never seen this warning before on anything from Amazon.
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Oh wow that sucks but for some reason YouTubers recommend this for s8 and note 8 idk man it looks promising but yeah that warning I've never seen before

There are plenty of discussions under the accessories section
But I'd say don't bother. I had one tempered glass protector on for an hour before it annoyed me too much and I removed it! Destroys the feel and use of the phone.

I have been buying the RhinoShield stuff for my stuff and its held up really well for me.
rhinoshield.io is where you'll find it.. (I havn't logged in long enough that I forgot my account info :/ )
edit: found my login info so now I can add the link:
https://rhinoshield.io/collections/samsung-galaxy-note-8
Plus, nobody else's stuff has any evidence that even suggests it actually works.
I havn't tried it for the note8 but I came by this thread while I was researching if anyone had so figure I'd mention it. It is expensive to get the whole kit (screen protector, bumper, and in this case rear glass protector), but I found it worth it..

I have a cheapo '2.5D' glass and its doing well. Touch response is worse mind.
There is a speaker hole at the top; this needs covering with a bit of tape or you wil get dust between the screen and the protector.

bonerp said:
There are plenty of discussions under the accessories section
But I'd say don't bother. I had one tempered glass protector on for an hour before it annoyed me too much and I removed it! Destroys the feel and use of the phone.
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I purchased a relatively inexpensive TG protector. While it exhibits many of the drawbacks of TG protectors that aren't full-adhesive (i.e. all of them except the Whitestone Dome), it doesn't have quite the "rainbow effect" that I've seen with other protectors.
Its real downside, though, is its slickness ... I need a more paper-like surface to better control the s-pen. Just the tiniest bit of friction would help. I'm thinking that I may have to go to a film protector rather than TG to get that, though. Does anyone else have this issue with TG protectors?

eglesiaw said:
I just received an IQ Shield Matte screen protector and I'm really disappointed. It screws up the colors and whites have a rainbow effect to them. I took it off and now I'm looking for a new one. I'd like one that is:
1. Anti-glare
2. Anti-fingerprint
3. Clear and doesn't screw with this beautiful display.
Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance!
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Ever since the introduction of the edge curved screen (and I have owned the lot) I have never found a decent screen saver. It is a subject on every forum here on XDA and concerning all the Samsung edge models.
I have taken recommendations only to find them useless. Some use a glue, some have a dotted appearance after application some just suck period!
I used a partial screen saver once that just covered the centre of the screen but even that proved awful. Even used Samsungs own on the Note 7 and though that was not glass it also was horrible.
If any peer here does find a working screen protector PLEASE let us know.
Ryland

Whitestone is the best.

I like the Spigen NeoFlex, it's been great so far for me. Went on easily, hasn't peeled off the corners/edge (and I use the Spigen Tough Armor case) and after the 12 hours to settle on the screen it looks great and writing on it with the s-pen feels good too. My personal opinion and the only one I've tried so far on my Note 8

faded03cobra said:
Whitestone is the best.
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Can the Whiitestone be removed once it's been glued to the Screen?

yes

I got the Bodyguardz glass protector sold to me at the AT&T store (lazy me). The guy installed it and it's ok. Glass protectors have an innate problem in that they sometimes don't transmit touches to the touchscreen itself. This one is no different but it does fit well. And it has a lifetime free replacement policy. I'll keep it to protect my screen.

Tempered Glass or Hydrogel screen protector

I've been thinking of getting something to protect my precious and the original plastic one has lots of scratches on it.
so Tempered glass or Hydrogel film?

I've been doing research on this question too. It's like a mixed reviews. But a commonly seen answer is that they regret getting the hydro gel version and stick to the conventional tempered glass as some buyers indicated after a few days, the edge came off peeling and trapping dust while some others has high static attracting dust and easily scratch.

I usually prefer Tempered glass.

Always glass, clarity and feel always superior to film.
A good brand would be Nillkin - I buy this off Ali express. The oleophobic coating is great and you can actually feel the smoothness difference vs a $2 cheapo glass protector.
http://s.aliexpress.com/rQje6z6R
I have bought it for multiple previous devices and am waiting for my Mate 10 glass delivery.
It is fragile though, have to be careful not to place it on the table face down with any sand or grit, it can scratch. Usually I have a case with a bit of a lip to protect it.
Obviously it can crack if you drop it also.
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Anyone found a tempered glass protector that actually does not lift on the sides? Such a pity if one uses a glass that doesn't cover the whole display.. =(

Changed mine over to 9h yesterday. Just feels so much better than the plastic film.

Cccmachins said:
Changed mine over to 9h yesterday. Just feels so much better than the plastic film.
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What brand did you get and does it cover the whole screen?

Ozero 2 pack from Amazon. Not a bad glass. No rainbow on the screen just a little thick. Like someone else said it makes you feel like your pressing into a hole with the thicker glass. They should taper the protector around the navigation button to make it feel better. Yeah covers all the screen. Except the bottom of the navigation button.

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Cccmachins said:
Ozero 2 pack from Amazon. Not a bad glass. No rainbow on the screen just a little thick. Like someone else said it makes you feel like your pressing into a hole with the thicker glass. They should taper the protector around the navigation button to make it feel better. Yeah covers all the screen. Except the bottom of the navigation button.
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Can you post some pictures of the screen protector installed? I'm looking to get a screen protector myself but they are a number of brands I dont know and no reviews for any of them yet.

Jevansent said:
Always glass, clarity and feel always superior to film.
A good brand would be Nillkin - I buy this off Ali express. The oleophobic coating is great and you can actually feel the smoothness difference vs a $2 cheapo glass protector.
http://s.aliexpress.com/rQje6z6R
I have bought it for multiple previous devices and am waiting for my Mate 10 glass delivery.
It is fragile though, have to be careful not to place it on the table face down with any sand or grit, it can scratch. Usually I have a case with a bit of a lip to protect it.
Obviously it can crack if you drop it also.
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Hi !
I agree with you. I've talked to the seller and the their Mate 10 Pro Amazing H+ should go on sale. I'm gonna get one.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't arrived yet, I'm getting Moka brown color ^^ but for sure Nillkin is good
http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=7328&page=1

Darktitor said:
Hi !
I agree with you. I've talked to the seller and the their Mate 10 Pro Amazing H+ should go on sale. I'm gonna get one.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't arrived yet, I'm getting Moka brown color ^^ but for sure Nillkin is good
http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=7328&page=1
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Already got mine more than a week ago. Bought off aliexpress.
Unfortunately this time the glass is ever so slightly less than the full width of the phone - my P9 Plus Nillkin glass was edge to edge of the screen. About 0.5mm less than each side of the screen. I suspect this is because the no side bezels makes it hard to extend the glass all the way to the sides otherwise it might be non compatible with cases.
Not too irritating but definitely noticeable. Small halo effect as usual.
But overall the smoothness and the oleophobic coating definitely trumps the factory plastic protector. Still worth the buy.
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jounin052 said:
Can you post some pictures of the screen protector installed? I'm looking to get a screen protector myself but they are a number of brands I dont know and no reviews for any of them yet.
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Today i tried KONIX glass protector, (i guess this is just a generic glass, packed into some brand - just like many of screen protector in the market)
Just like any other 2.5D glass protector, it wont be able to cover the screen edge
But it still fit quite well, and the touch response is unaffected, or even better than on plastic (included) one
Glass cut is nicely rounded without sharp edge though, so i think this one is well manufactured
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otonieru said:
Today i tried KONIX glass protector, (i guess this is just a generic glass, packed into some brand - just like many of screen protector in the market)
Just like any other 2.5D glass protector, it wont be able to cover the screen edge
But it still fit quite well, and the touch response is unaffected, or even better than on plastic (included) one
Glass cut is nicely rounded without sharp edge though, so i think this one is well manufactured
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Thanks... Wanted to see the one that @Cccmachins has because I ended up ordering the same Ozero TP... Guess I'll have to wait till I get it to see and decide if that works or if I need to keep looking.

The ozero just has a black frame around it so it just hides the edges of the screen completely, so you are actually losing a tad bit of screen real estate. I also bought one on Amazon that does not have the frame like the ozero and the entire edge is lifted up all the way around my screen. I think I'd prefer the plastic ones and just replace them from time to time...

tuffluck said:
The ozero just has a black frame around it so it just hides the edges of the screen completely, so you are actually losing a tad bit of screen real estate. I also bought one on Amazon that does not have the frame like the ozero and the entire edge is lifted up all the way around my screen. I think I'd prefer the plastic ones and just replace them from time to time...
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That sucks... The tempered glass screen protector manufacturers seem to have a hard time making them fit perfectly on these curve edge phones... It's either to small or not sticking on the edges...

Jevansent said:
Already got mine more than a week ago. Bought off aliexpress.
Unfortunately this time the glass is ever so slightly less than the full width of the phone - my P9 Plus Nillkin glass was edge to edge of the screen. About 0.5mm less than each side of the screen. I suspect this is because the no side bezels makes it hard to extend the glass all the way to the sides otherwise it might be non compatible with cases.
Not too irritating but definitely noticeable. Small halo effect as usual.
But overall the smoothness and the oleophobic coating definitely trumps the factory plastic protector. Still worth the buy.
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Even the stock screen protector doesnt fully cover the edges. Is the nillkin tg the same or worse than the original SP in covering the side? Do you think the UAG plasma case is compatible with the nillkin tg?

i prefer this protector 9h tempered glass, it cover all the front, very clear also in sunlight, anti fingerprint. i buy it from local market, very satisfied

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scrumptyous said:
What brand did you get and does it cover the whole screen?
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Hello friend, as a seller, we have talked to countless manufacturers to find the perfect screen protectors for our clients. As now phones screen bigger and bigger, resolution values are higher also. It is so necessary to get a high quality screen protector to protect the high valued smart phones. And the meanwhile, the screen protector cannot affect the touch sensitivity of phone screen , cannot decrease the brightness of the phone screen. So really it is not an easy solution.
Anyhow, we used to struggle which one is better? Tempered glass or hydrogel screen protector? Tempered glass is more thickness to 0.33mm, while hydrogel usually under 0.2mm, tempered glass cannot be full screen protector, while hydrogel can be full screen protector. Which is such a pity tempered glass cannot be full screen. Still except this flaw, other aspects is much much better than hydrogel protector. So we stick to tempered glass screen protector for Huawei Mate 10.
Here is what we prepare for our clients.
Flos®Huawei Mate 10 Transparent Full Protection Tempered Glass Screen Protector HD Anti-Scratch-[2 Pcs]
And we offer express shipping to Europe/USA within 1 week at 2usd shipping fees.
Also we are on Amazon for Europe.

Flosmall.com said:
Hello friend, as a seller, we have talked to countless manufacturers to find the perfect screen protectors for our clients. As now phones screen..........
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You know,
Sometimes its hard to trust a manufacturer, who despite promise the fine quality of their product, yet still manage to slip a typo on their commercial material,
Your images misspelled "tempered" as "temepred" and it doesn't sound convincing at all for me :silly: