I want to buy a Galaxy Note, but don't like the Samsung shell on top of Android. Is there a way to get to the bootloader and install a pure ICS?
hcfrancke said:
I want to buy a Galaxy Note, but don't like the Samsung shell on top of Android. Is there a way to get to the bootloader and install a pure ICS?
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Wait for the Cyanogenmod team to finish their build of CM9 for the Note
i believe the answer is no you can't just plop ICS down on the note or for that fact any phone. reason being android is just an operating system and each manufactor supplies drivers for the different hardware of each phone. there is no pure android build on any phone.
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Download the ICS launcher and that should hold you over till CM9 comes out
bedspringlex said:
i believe the answer is no you can't just plop ICS down on the note or for that fact any phone. reason being android is just an operating system and each manufactor supplies drivers for the different hardware of each phone. there is no pure android build on any phone.
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Pure Android is available on
Nexus One
Nexus S
Galaxy Nexus
those phones are samsung are they not and updates for them come through samsung.
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there is no pure android build on any phone.
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I was addressing this comment. By the way, the Nexus One was an HTC built phone.
my bad. the phones strickly from google are pure. the same ones sold from carriers need them for the updates.
So if i install the ICS launcher and then upgrade to ICS when it comes out am i not having a pure ICS system? If not then what is left from samsung in my phone that gets in my way of the pure ICS experience?
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
So if i install the ICS launcher and then upgrade to ICS when it comes out am i not having a pure ICS system? If not then what is left from samsung in my phone that gets in my way of the pure ICS experience?
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Touchwiz and more if you have a carrier specific model
From my fingers to your eyez
cdesai said:
Touchwiz and more if you have a carrier specific model
From my fingers to your eyez
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Ok, i thought that touchwiz was a launcher. It seems i need to grasp the definition of what is touchwiz yet.
A carrier is the company that provides you with telephone service right?
Could you direct me to a link of a concise touchwiz definition(Not wikipedia, i find it very general) so i can better understand why it cannot be removed from my phone?
Thanks
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
Ok, i thought that touchwiz was a launcher. It seems i need to grasp the definition of what is touchwiz yet.
A carrier is the company that provides you with telephone service right?
Could you direct me to a link of a concise touchwiz definition(Not wikipedia, i find it very general) so i can better understand why it cannot be removed from my phone?
Thanks
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To remove TouchWiz is almost impossible. If you really want that, you will need some serious skills in android-modding. (Its not impossible, only almost).
What i would recommend you is to wait for ICS, see if you like the touchwiz 5.0. (right now the newest samsung devices are running TW 4.0) According to samsung, TW5 should be quite similar to "pure-android" as it was codeveloped by google.
On the other hand, if you dont like that, or if you dont wish to wait, then there is only one solution. Install custom rom. Cyanoged should be probably the best choice, as their launcher is extremely similar to the ISC stock (i think its called trebuchet, but i am not really sure)
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Looking back in time,I remember how Samsung did some fabulous polishing work on Froyo 2.2.1 even after the release of the first GBs.I was glued to the last of the 2.2.1s before migrating to GB.
Between JVP to the leaked JVT,I see polish being added and now that ICS is just around the corner,Samsung must be able to release the full fury of GB---HOPEFULLY!
History has always repeated itself so let's hope for the best!
...so now it is here even though as a provider affair but a more common leak with multi CSC can't be far behind.more polished than XXJVT
Waiting for ICS. I don't think there will be major changes in next release.
i am also waiting for ICS
It's time not for a ROM but for a position from Samsung if Galaxy S will be getting ICS or not. They fooled me very much in buying this thing in the GPS department ( GSMArena also, with the review against Iphone 4 that praised this piece of crap stock software they loaded in this great hardware ). The least they could do is bring ICS to I9000. If they don't do this, then I am really, really sorry but Samsung and Android failed to me and I learned my lesson and no more Samsung or Android devices for me if they continue doing this.
WHY? Samsung has been one of the first manufactures that constantly updates their devices, obviously most of the updates are leaked, but thoos exist. Not like Sony Ericcson wich wasted months to develop GB to their xperia line.
I don't know the case of LG, Motorola, or others. But samsung and HTC are the best option (for me) on android, based on devices and updates.
andifds said:
WHY? Samsung has been one of the first manufactures that constantly updates their devices, obviously most of the updates are leaked, but thoos exist. Not like Sony Ericcson wich wasted months to develop GB to their xperia line.
I don't know the case of LG, Motorola, or others. But samsung and HTC are the best option (for me) on android, based on devices and updates.
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I never expected this from Samsung
I really wonder if Sammy would update our phones to ICS. Not that i'm going to use samsung rom (they're so damn slow), it's just interesting.
ICS on Galaxy S? Why? We have hardware buttons, thanks to gods. I don't need another black line eating my screen space.
elkmor said:
ICS on Galaxy S? Why? We have hardware buttons, thanks to gods. I don't need another black line eating my screen space.
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Dude, if we become ICS it will look like GB, just with TW3. So no black lines. I think and I hobe that we get ICS, because Samsung will keep us as their Customers. And I'm the first who will buy a Samsung phone after my contract expires
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+1 need too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-Nexus-S-and-Galaxy-S-II-to-Android-4-0-ICS
jnr21 said:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-Nexus-S-and-Galaxy-S-II-to-Android-4-0-ICS
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The Galaxy S2 gets ICS, but the i9000 only get a rumour so far
It's a simple question, but without a simple answer. With all of the OEMs in the Android environment, none of them have ever released a phone with vanilla Android without the direct partnership (or prodding) of Google in some way.
Most everyone agrees that the OEMs want to differentiate themselves from the competition and this is how they go about it, but why hasn't one ever released a phone without additional "features" or UI overlays? It doesn't make sense to believe Google isn't somehow leveraging their brand recognition of the Nexus line when dealing with OEMs.
Has an OEM pushed out a vanilla Android Jellybean device (or ICS) not in the Nexus line that still comes with Gapps?
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Meant for Android General, not Nexus 7 forum. Sorry :3
Android is Open Source, so yes, they can. Don't know the deal with the Market though
In addition, if OEM wants to include the Play Store and any GApps, the device needs to be certified by Google. Therefore, you see many low-end tablets do not come with Play Store or GApps and must be sideloaded.
Lenovo just moved out of their App Shop business and going back to Play Store. Also, Acer is having issues with the Aliyun (Alibaba) issue with Google
simple question, simple answer.. yes. problem is the oem's want to add their own touches, and the providers want to add their crapware.
Probably the main reason I like ASUS is they seem to make very little changes to Android, looks almost stock, and they've been doing a good job updating tablets with the latest version of Android. So I think they are the closest we have to a pure Android non-Nexus tablet.
They released the g2x with vanilla android gb but still a lot of people wanted those extras from LG's optimus 2x features like its clock and launcher.
I just started enjoying touchwhiz after a few months and now I can't use my s3 without it.
The nexus 7 seems to actually to plain in my opinion since with all the improvements over that years with android and their respective manufacturers ui like sense and touchwhiz
Sent from either Galaxy S3 intl or Nexus 7
both on stock at the moment!!
Huawei u8150
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T-Mo's G1, G2, and G2x (sorta) are vanilla. They all have their carrier bloatware, and the G2x actually runs some of LG's custom interface framework, but still vanilla-ish.
Asus. Pure vanilla with sprinkles on top. God I hope the Padfone 2 comes to the U.S.
The original Motorola droid was pure aosp froyo and gingerbread.....no blur at all
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Smallsmx3 said:
The original Motorola droid was pure aosp froyo and gingerbread.....no blur at all
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but with added bloatware from verizon
Everyone *****es about the skins and delays. But sometimes oems add worthwhile features too. If I were an oem I would work with some third party developers and bundle good pay apps with the phone (uninstallable of course.) like nova launcher, Camera ect. Leave most of the base os alone, making updates easier.
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T-Mobile Galaxy S5 just got the 5.1 update, build G900TUVU1FOF6.
The international set used to receive before US-sets but it seems T-Mobile is bucking the trend. Anyway, hope it is ported soon. Or we have our own official 5.1 firmware soon. :good:
Here's the link http://31.220.4.75/dl/TMB-G900TUVU1FOF6-20150622093044.zip
I wonder if we can run this on 900f with a custom kernel? What's the worst thing that would happen: soft brick? or need to flash ofw in odin?
Edit: Here's a mega mirror.
And here's a system dump with APK's and whatnot .
Can anyone post some screenshot of this release? Thanks in andvance!
lingowistico said:
Here's the link http://31.220.4.75/dl/TMB-G900TUVU1FOF6-20150622093044.zip
I wonder if we can run this on 900f with a custom kernel? What's the worst thing that would happen: soft brick? or need to flash ofw in odin?
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And here's a system dump with APK's and whatnot .
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No, only when 900F recive update
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For anyone who wants some anecdotal evidence; this was a great update!!!! extremely happy. lock screen is snappier, multitasking button lag seems to be gone, calling using ok google " call x" with google voice is fixed. phone just seems snappier overall. great great great update! thanks t mobile and samsung. i didn't expect to ever get 5.1.1
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For anyone who wants some anecdotal evidence; this was a great update!!!! extremely happy. lock screen is snappier, multitasking button lag seems to be gone, calling using ok google " call x" with google voice is fixed. phone just seems snappier overall. great great great update! thanks t mobile and samsung. i didn't expect to ever get 5.1.1
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Anything from the s6 included? Mostly interested in the new theme engine.
fedor12 said:
Anything from the s6 included? Mostly interested in the new theme engine.
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No new theme engine. Typical Samsung-style move - artificially forcing previous models to look and feel old by not updating touchwiz on them.
lingowistico said:
No new theme engine. Typical Samsung-style move - artificially forcing previous models to look and feel old by not updating touchwiz on them.
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Pathetic...
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Samsung don't seem to introduce features from the new phones to older devices. Seen the same thing every year
mrstabs said:
Samsung don't seem to introduce features from the new phones to older devices. Seen the same thing every year
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lingowistico said:
No new theme engine. Typical Samsung-style move - artificially forcing previous models to look and feel old by not updating touchwiz on them.
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Remember that Galaxy S2, born with Android 2.3.3, received the "Nature UX" namely TouchWiz 5.0 with same features of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on Galaxy S3. Maybe they think that the new Touchwiz is no such new than the "older" one on S5 KitKat nay on S5 Lollipop with white UI.
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Pathetic...
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Huh?
nfs11 said:
Remember that Galaxy S2, born with Android 2.3.3, received the "Nature UX" namely TouchWiz 5.0 with same features of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on Galaxy S3. Maybe they think that the new Touchwiz is no such new than the "older" one on S5 KitKat nay on S5 Lollipop with white UI.
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But that was a whole year after the S3 was released. And even then they disabled little things like waterrings unlock etc ONLY to make a point that the S2 is not the S3.
Hello,
Is there camera RAW/DNG support? (Camera2 API)
_hko_ said:
Hello,
Is there camera RAW/DNG support? (Camera2 API)
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Some people are saying that there isn't any raw support, I can't confirm it though.
lingowistico said:
Huh?
But that was a whole year after the S3 was released. And even then they disabled little things like waterrings unlock etc ONLY to make a point that the S2 is not the S3.
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Also Galaxy S5 has a year.
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Also Galaxy S5 has a year.
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Yeah, best case scenario for when we get an official s6 rom is a whole year from now.
If they're gonna copy Apple and the iphone they might as well copy their update style and keep all devices with the same os and ui...
Although the thread has started with the Idea of Port, it has become Firmware Feature discussion. That should be happening in [SM-G900/F/K/L/W8/A/T/M] S5 Firmware Thread
Any firmware should be posted in that thread if its not there already. You can choose to Work with that OP if need be. This one needs to close as its duplication.
is there any way to do that? i hate bloat ware, and iv heard alot about how bad the note5 is for ram managment and stuff, im coming from a oneplus 1 and would like a stock android experience.
GanonSlayer said:
is there any way to do that? i hate bloat ware, and iv heard alot about how bad the note5 is for ram managment and stuff, im coming from a oneplus 1 and would like a stock android experience.
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Not possible yet..even if it comes in near future it would be too buggy.. samsung sucks with updates.. better go for Nexus 6p.. i am also planning to get rid of it and planning to buy 6p
GanonSlayer said:
is there any way to do that? i hate bloat ware, and iv heard alot about how bad the note5 is for ram managment and stuff, im coming from a oneplus 1 and would like a stock android experience.
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CM is NOT "stock" Android. It is a custom ROM just like any OEM build from GOOGLE source. Granted, Samsung TW is much more intertwined into the framework than many other.
If you call many features "bloatware" then I'd suggest a different device. If you mean apps, then root and remove. There is a "bloatware" thread in General section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3184563
Exynos chip guys closed source so until samsung decides to release source code no cm port or at least until one of the devs here crack it the guys here are geniuses and at least one will port it just samsung makes it so hard they never learn that no matter what xda devs will prevail just be patient
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Hi al, i have a stupid question for you; i'm not a cook/rom mixer, i don't have any experience with this world.... I see the note 4/edge has the same processor and gpu of our nexus 6, anyone has tried to port any sort of rom touchwiz based or is impossible at all?
lopanedino said:
Hi al, i have a stupid question for you; i'm not a cook/rom mixer, i don't have any experience with this world.... I see the note 4/edge has the same processor and gpu of our nexus 6, anyone has tried to port any sort of rom touchwiz based or is impossible at all?
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nobody wants touchwiz on a nexus, thats why people buy nexus phones..
simms22 said:
nobody wants touchwiz on a nexus, thats why people buy nexus phones..
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lol.... in the notification panel of my phone i have read: you were killed by simms22...
ok.... the question are very stupid :silly:
lopanedino said:
lol.... in the notification panel of my phone i have read: you were killed by simms22...
ok.... the question are very stupid :silly:
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i killed myself??? eek!
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in reality, some people tried to port it to the n6, but gave up. then others tried porting it, and then they gave up. there are a very few who would like to see it, but not many, or enough.
Touchwiz on a Nexus ? That sounds more like a punishment rather than benefit.
the title of this thread says it all......
But that is the beauty of having a Nexus... Make a mistake (like putting Touchwiz on a Nexus) and fix it easily.
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touchwiz+knox= android heaven ?
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Touchwiz no no! Many newcomers here switched to Nexus to not deal with touchwiz/knox. It's too laggy & unoptimized. This week the vzw note 4 finally had its bootloader unlocked. Which is a huge feat. Everyone there is thrilled to finally run cm13 to ditch touchwiz. I personally ditched touchwiz the day 4.3/knox was introduced. Knox=devil
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Touchwiz sounds like something a pervert would do.
No thanks.
nunjabusiness said:
Touchwiz sounds like something a pervert would do.
No thanks.
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lol.... i haved a s4 and a note edge.... the first thing when i caught the s4: install the rom google play edition, and with the edge..... cm..... mine was only a question to know the potentiality of our nexus :fingers-crossed: (xcuse me for my english but i'm from genoa)
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lol.... i haved a s4 and a note edge.... the first thing when i caught the s4: install the rom google play edition, and with the edge..... cm..... mine was only a question to know the potentiality of our nexus :fingers-crossed: (xcuse me for my english but i'm from genoa)
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I had the S4 before the Nexus. I didn't realize how difficult it is to use Samsung vs. Nexus. For example, the S4 has many different varients like S4 Sprint, ATT, Verizon, etc... there were several times where I flashed the wrong or incorrectly labeled ROM which was for another varient. Then using ODIN, etc, etc.....too much of a headache. Plus the S7 has a locked bootloader across the board so Samsung pretty much has put an end to any type of custom anything actually.
I wouldn't mind the touchwiz multi or floating windows hahaha
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nunjabusiness said:
Touchwiz sounds like something a pervert would do.
No thanks.
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tApPeD fROM mY nEXuS 6
He said he is new so common guys, no essentially no one has but you can get modifications on android and themes via a cyanogenmod rom to make it very touchwiz like if thats your thing. You have to stick to the roms listed for your phone base tho as even tho hardware is the same the bios programming and some internals are not indentical and would cause you to brick the device aka turn it into a paper weight, Best of luck and ask on the thread of the rom you look into eventually and there will always be someone willing to help.
No such thing as a stupid question when it comes to Android, when you're working with such a flexible system that has such a HUGE dev scene, anything goes. I'd say it was a decent question, however, like everyone else said, why would you want that on a Nexus? To each their own I guess, but a personal thought: Isn't touchwiz framework and all closed source?
The amount of code added to Android by Samsung, LG, and HTC is so extensive they usually will have a second framework just for the skin. However, simply removing that second framework doesn't get you a stock Android appearance. It simply gets you a device that doesn't function. That's because while the second framework is the obvious location for much of the added code, all the other stock Android files have snippets of Touchwiz code added to them that refer to that second framework. Independent of executive meddling from the carriers, the added code is the reason Samsung takes so long to provide updates to their devices.
Their devices are far more responsive when you throw an AOSP-based firmware on them, since there's no Touchwiz overhead. That's assuming of course that you don't have a locked bootloader.