Too much ram usage? - Galaxy Tab 8.9 General

Hi all,
I am curious on this matter. My tab seems to be running about 450-550 ram usage even when there is zero application running. Still on stock rom and is rooted though. Is this normal?
I think to have the bar 3/4 filled up without usage is something too much right?
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nicregi said:
Hi all,
I am curious on this matter. My tab seems to be running about 450-550 ram usage even when there is zero application running. Still on stock rom and is rooted though. Is this normal?
I think to have the bar 3/4 filled up without usage is something too much right?
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This is normal. Android keeps apps in ram even when you are not using them. Don't worry about this, Android is good at managing ram. If you want to know why it is like that, then google it and you will find many good explanations.

Android, mobile OS's in general, are use RAM in a much more efficient way then desktop computers.
Programs are kept in the RAM so when they are relaunched they can resume from the last point. When a program requires more RAM then is available, instead of throwing up an insufficent memory error like computers, it just removes the longest stagnent programs from the RAM

Hey all!! Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it and thank you. Merry X'mas all!!!
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Speed Increase With Deleting Apps?

I saw the huge list of safe apps to delete, and I am getting my Droid X on monday, so I was just wondering if deleting the apps causes the speed to increase? I read a lot of reviews saying the Droid X has some lag unfourtantely but does it speed up when you delete all those applications?
I have the incredible right now and use a froyo basic ROM, I turn off all animations and delete all apps that aren't necessary, I just care about the speed of the phone. Do you see a speed increase if the applications are deleted?
I don't think you'll see a noticeable speed increase. The X does have lag in some places, notably the lock screen (big wtf here), but I don't think it's that much worse than most other android phones on stock roms.
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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Ezun said:
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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The pro for all of the things you've mentioned there is that it seems to all be software related. HTC obviously has had more time to perfect Sense then Motorola has with it's new Blur-hybrid. I think once the software issues get worked out, the hardware for the X will outshine the Inc.
Just use launcher pro instead of the stock launcher and the entire system will run faster.
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Doesn't using launcher pro on top of blur make it use even more resources?
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it does, but if you remove everything off of your blur, then launch and use the other launcher it will use quite a bit more ram, (i see about a jump of 20 to 30 megs though i haven't done any precise measuring)
But I do notice a bit of a speed increase, part of the reason could be you can control the speed of the animations, and if you bump it up a little bit, even if it lags on showing you the animation it's not as noticeable because you can get there faster. (if that makes sense)
Well then if its mostly software related then I'll wait for a couple firmware updates or 2.2 before I start *****ing
ANy tips on how to speed the droid X up anyone?
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
grdm said:
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
pima said:
isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Startup Auditor - It's a paid app but worth the money.
I just tried launcher pro on top of fully configured blur and pro was still smother than blur. So since it isn't the phone I'm holding out hope for 2.2/blur update fixes this. Since that's around the corner I'll wait for it before converting to pro.
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pima said:
isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Autokiller is a full featured, free app to do this.
Launcher Pro made a world of difference on my incredible, zero lag whatsoever..
I like many people thought about getting the Droid X, i dont have a complaint with its size whatsoever moreso then other issues... when i tested the demo phone in the verizon store it seemed incredibly slow.. yes i know it was a demo phone and people probobly mess with it all day long but still it was like having a G1 all over again..
Secondly is the lack of root access.. with the encrypted bootloader it is probobly going to be near impossible to flash a custom recovery and therefor custom roms are also going to be a hassle, i love having my fully unlocked incredible with a S-Off Nand on the way.. having custom roms and overclock kernals changes the feel of the phone completely
Thirdly and last is the 2.2 update... i saw the 2.2 update news article on the Droid X and the guys Quadrant Benchmarks with it were 800 something? That seems redicilous because my Quadrant Benchmarks with my 2.2 incredible are 1400s and Linpacks are in the low 40s
Those benches are showing the droid x on 2.1, with some other phones on 2.2, which puts the droid x in the highest tier of performance. Once froyo is on the dx, youll see scores almost surely above the incredibles (because of the gpu) and very high linpack scores.
XDA App = Pwnage
Autorun Killer does the job, but you need to be rooted.
AutoKiller on the same website will help you keep your memory cleaner by automatically killing tasks. That'll improve performance if your phone is running low on memory (which can happen if all the stock processes are running).
Edit: Oops, didn't see the thread has second page
personally i rooted my phone installed root explorer renamed alot of junk on my phone from .apk to .bak. my phone is def snappier. i also turned off the animated backgrounds. i also use advanced task killer which is the main reason i started, in a sense, uninstalling apps the safe way. seeing all of those items running before i killed them was killing me. so i would try doing that and also turning off wifi etc when not needed.
May not be the best scores, but this is after renaming only a few apps.
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Oops didn't show scores...
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Old thread is old...
Blur sucks. Launcher Pro rocks... And umm... Well I prefer my Droid X to the Incredible after the mods. I have zero lag. Go me.

[Q] RAM, GPS and call volume questions

Hello,
I wiil start with the RAM. I've searched the forums for an answer to the lack of ram and people are saying the current kernel isn't supporting 512 ram which is probably bull**** because I saw a Desire HD of a friend, and it uses all the RAM. Other people say that the other Ram goes to graphic use, which is wierd, because again, the Desire HD has 512 RAM.
So my question is did someone knows the real answer? Because I'm pretty disappointed that I have 150 free RAM after I'm killing all the tasks, and some games are laggy from time to time (Angry Birds (espacially Rio), Fruit Ninja). Maybe we can even sue Samsung for publishing false specs XD
My second question is about the GPS, I'm using Phoenix ultimate rom, did anyone tried it with this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164 and saw better results? The GPS in this rom is better then other roms but i'm still find it unusable.
My thirs nd last question is that there's a problem I've saw in all the roms I've been using. When I call someone the volume is high for something like 5-10 sec and then become lower, and the volume in the call itself is pretty low and I can't talk in crowdy places. I know there's a method to increase the volume but I'm not sure how and which volume is recommended. If someone can explain me it will be great!
Thanks in advance, Elad!
For the first question.
first of all you are using 150 ram... rather than having that much left. and I dont think there is any rom right now for the captivate that use all the ram..
2. my phone also never gets good gps. just send it back to at&t and keep getting a new one until you have good gps.
3. i really dont know... sorry..
So you say this this it's the rom that doesn't support? It's really hard for me to believe this because there's a lot of devices that use 2.1 and 2.2 and uses all of the 512 mb.. :/
And for the second answer I'm not living in USA I bought it on ebay because its basebands support my mobile operator basebands lol
For your 3rd question, have you tried different modems?
first of all, you need to read up on how RAM is used in linux and android. free ram is WASTED ram. there are 100 threads on here about that topic alone. please search
studacris said:
For your 3rd question, have you tried different modems?
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I don't know how to use other modem, is there a guide or something? How will I know if the modem is supporting 850 and 2100 (this is the only basebands my mobile operator supports.. I need them both for full signal.
Pirateghost said:
first of all, you need to read up on how RAM is used in linux and android. free ram is WASTED ram. there are 100 threads on here about that topic alone. please search
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I know what is RAM, but sometimes there are apps that uses a lot of ram like angry birds rio that when in stand-by mode uses almost 100mb ram. But it doesn't matter, if the phone doesn't really have 512mb they shouldn't write in the specs that it does.
Elad92 said:
I know what is RAM, but sometimes there are apps that uses a lot of ram like angry birds rio that when in stand-by mode uses almost 100mb ram. But it doesn't matter, if the phone doesn't really have 512mb they shouldn't write in the specs that it does.
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when an app needs the ram it will take it. and the phone does have 512. there are numerous threads about this as well. again, search
Pirateghost said:
when an app needs the ram it will take it. and the phone does have 512. there are numerous threads about this as well. again, search
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I've searched, and I found some theories, but still I don't know what's true.
Elad92 said:
I've searched, and I found some theories, but still I don't know what's true.
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there IS 512mb RAM, but its not all usable by the USER APPLICATIONS. some of it is used by the SYSTEM to run...
there is literally a massive thread open on this already somewhere. i will find it later
here is some reading for you to do in the meantime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008237&highlight=ram
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792512&highlight=512mb
just as others have stated the phone DOES have 512mb of RAM. Just like with your computer you may have 2 gigs of RAM installed but that does not mean that you are going to be able to use all of it. More then likely several hundred mbs of that is going to go to system processes like svchost and explorer.exe. That leaves only part of that available for user applications.
As others have stated ram that is free is doing the phone no good. accesses to ram is hundreds of times faster then accesses to main memory so if a program has to load block into RAM it is going to get slowed down. Its better to just let the phone do its own thing and keep applications that are frequently used in RAM so they dont have to get loaded when needed
I have 2 captivates, the only GPS Fix I found that works, is an article that describes all the settings, and after I understood what each setting was I adjusted them to what makes sense, and it works great now. Accuracy ranges 16 to 32 ft. But none of the video's or anything other article worked.
Here is the title of the article. "Why Samsung Galaxy S i9000 GPS is inaccurate and how to fix it." It is located here on XDA-developers.
And BTW I am using the AT&T release of Froyo. Don't have a need to switch to another ROM, everything works.
Brian
Thank you, the ram questions was answered
Does anybody knows something about the other two questions?
In regards to GPS, I flashed Serendipity and its at least mostly usable now. Before, I couldn't get a lock unless I was standing still, then id lose it when I moved.
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My previous rom was Serendipity, and I flashed to phoenix few days after because of mysterious problems (which now I know had no connection to the rom). Anyway, I love Phoenix, does anyone have phoenix and can use the GPS?
In response to the GPS questions:
The GPS is designed to use the aluminum backplate as an antenna. If you have a thick case on it will work terribly. Thin silicon cases work well enough. Another thing to look at is the app you are using for navigation. Try and find telenav for the i9000 and it will work for the captivate. Google navigation will work terribly. If you have a navigation app that uses generated maps(telenav) or stored maps your GPS will be decent enough to use and will help quite a bit. Read plumbobs guide for more information in the captivate development section.
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the captivate has 512 mb ram total
much of that is hardwired for video. the desire hd if it is the same as the inspire has 768mb total so 512 is available for the system to use.
Has anyone tried using navigation with google maps already pre-loaded? If so how is it? Did it improve navigation performance? Google navigation is absolutely horrible for me. Constantly losing signal while driving rendering it useless.

Help with Task Killer please?

I'm usin DlevRom 4.1 and I've noticed that my cell is faster and smoother but only for a while. After some hours of use, "at times" it gets slow. I know some programs that I'm not using are running and I would like to see my phone work 100%. Out of all the roms that I've tryied...Dlev's is the best (my personal opinion), and trust me when I say that I've tryied "MANY"!!! I just love the way it runs and looks. What I'm really lookin for, is a task killer that will keep the programs I'm not using closed. I'm new at this so I need guidance. Thx's if you can help!!!
Task killer are useless they do more damage than good on android. Android is great at handling ram, having your ram full is better than empty
speedy_11 said:
Task killer are useless they do more damage than good on android. Android is great at handling ram, having your ram full is better than empty
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I'm with speedy_11 on this one. I' don't really think they do much positive for you. However if you just feel like you just must have one, Advanced Task Killer is probably the best or one of the best ones available. It's got great ratings and plenty of my buddies swear by it. I don't personal use one but my buddies all say it's the best one (their opinions).
I concur. I have had really good luck with using the "back" button to exit apps. They don't show up in the task manager if you back all the way out.
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I have seen in the CM7 thread a app from the market called "AutoStarts" or something like that. It doesn't actually kill the apps but doesn't let them autostart in the first place. I haven't tried it myself yet but I read it is pretty customizable to how you want things to run or when to run. Hope this helps and if so hit the thanks button.
Here is the market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&feature=search_result
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Thx's!!!
Thank you for good info. I thought task killers were a "most have". I'm still learnin about this android stuff so thanks!!!

official ICS so crappy and slow

am using the official ICS and OMG its so stupid!
-it takes up to 8 seconds to open an app
-it drains my battery(8 hours maximum)
-it lags so much and some apps just end up crashing every now and then
-cant tether
-one cant manually toggle between 2G/3G/4G!
-is the processor of this phone really a duo core??????
Is there a better ROM??? or should i just sell off the phone??
Did you do a complete wipe/factory restore when you moved to ICS? I started out that way, and the ROM has always felt fine, and I believe there are reports from other users that had their gripes resolved when they restored from scratch.
I did a wipe but still the rom is so lagging!
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i had some previous ICS experiences but you should try a few tricks. first, hold down the HOME KEY for about 3 seconds. an APP manager opens. you may have lots of apps that didnt close. hit STOP ALL.
Also notice that you can quickly pop between apps this way. you can kill an app by swiping its image sideways.
Second, in your drop down bar, organize your icons to have the WIFI and DATA buttons quickly available. The DATA is a really battery drainer. if your not using it, turn it off. if your not using wifi, turn it off. your battery can last 2+ days with both turned off.
With Gingerbread, i had issues with the wifi not connecting after the phone was on for a day or so. all that seems to be fixed with ICS. I used to have to reboot the phone 2-3 times a day to fix this. I rarely ever reboot it now.
If you decide to sell off the phone, i know at&t will give you $100 for it as a trade in. I think the used phones are going for about $90 on ebay now
hope that helps!
I've used many devices with ICS and this one byfar takes the tard cake.
I am having the same thing here. seems like getting slower after using for few days.
Worst ROM I have ever used
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after rooting, it actually wasn't bad. pretty stable and responsive
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ktan.us said:
after rooting, it actually wasn't bad. pretty stable and responsive
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I recently got this phone and have been expirimenting with the official stock rom while rooted. It is offensively slow and I believe lg recruited satan to invent the rom and make me kill myself. Either way, a few things that actually worked for me are the following:
Startup manager from the android market, disable all lg/ startup applications under system. This singlehandedly decreased my boot time by about a minute and makes everything much smoother.
rescan media root from the market, use it to disable media scanning. For some reason, the media scanner on stock ics sucks for me, and makes the entire phone unusable. Disabling it with this app also increased my boot time and made the phone run better.
V6 supercharger with kick ass kernelizer and patched services.jar and unledded minfrees. Google v6 supercharger, its the first result.
I still have problems like op describes, sometimes the phone will freeze for four to eight seconds while doing something and takes time to catch up to itself. Not sure why, or how to fix it.
Are you sure about that, I actually flashed ICS on my Thrill and It rocks!!!!!!
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If you are sure it is not a bad flash, try Supercharger and Ultimatic .jar tools mod over in General Android Dev and Hacks like teebuddy said. Kills lag like no other mod. Also uninstall unneeded apps to free up memory. This phone is 3+ yrs old now.
Or use a better optimized custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39269819
lol glad I am not the only one.
This phone is a piece of garbage.
My first visit to the forum in months.
I signed up to install ICS official hoping for improvements. It brought me some features. Did it make the phone better? Nope, probably worse.
Phone is laggy and my internal storage isn't even full.
Sometimes opening an app takes 4-6 seconds, other times an app freezes and the buttons on the bottom of the phone do not respond.
Sometimes when in an app it goes black and then takes forever to respond again.
I upgrade to ICS and lose tethering which was a nice feature. I would rather lose 3D which is the biggest gimmick ever.
This phone is beyond pathetic! I have an iPhone 4 which is a single core and runs smooth as BUTTER. I prefer Android OS but LG Optimus 3D sucks.
There is no hope for this pathetic phone now. Once my contract expires next year I will try to sell it.
It is rather ironic that you are locked into a contract
drastic00 said:
It is rather ironic that you are locked into a contract
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Not sure what you are talking about.
I got the phone in 2011 when it came out. There weren't many options. The contract is 3 years, so it expires summer 2014.
Not sure where you live but contracts were 3 years and only changed to 2 years this July. Anyone before July still has to finish their contract or they can cancel.
The phone sucks period. It is worse than my friends Samsung Galaxy S Captivate and my Uncle's iPhone 4.
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That is also ironic.
It's taken a lot of digging to actually find other people complaining about the lagginess of the device.
I'm currently on stock AT&T ICS after custom flashing it god knows how many times. Super-bricked to restored.
I find the current ICS implementation crazy for how little room it leaves on the device.
I've been able to get the device running a TAD smoother by disabling (Yay ICS disable feature) most of the AT&T junk. The reason the device lags so much, especially compared to other devices, is squarely on the lack of RAM. It has 256MB compared to other devices (like the Evo 3D) which have 512MB.
I know the CPU itself isn't crappy, because games like Asphalt 6 look AND RUN fantastic. If it was garbage, the game would run like garbage.
So anything you can do on the device to prevent apps running in the background will help. Otherwise it's spending a LOT of time closing apps because so much of the RAM is used.
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It's taken a lot of digging to actually find other people complaining about the lagginess of the device.
I'm currently on stock AT&T ICS after custom flashing it god knows how many times. Super-bricked to restored.
I find the current ICS implementation crazy for how little room it leaves on the device.
I've been able to get the device running a TAD smoother by disabling (Yay ICS disable feature) most of the AT&T junk. The reason the device lags so much, especially compared to other devices, is squarely on the lack of RAM. It has 256MB compared to other devices (like the Evo 3D) which have 512MB.
I know the CPU itself isn't crappy, because games like Asphalt 6 look AND RUN fantastic. If it was garbage, the game would run like garbage.
So anything you can do on the device to prevent apps running in the background will help. Otherwise it's spending a LOT of time closing apps because so much of the RAM is used.
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Um this phone has 512mb ram... Also the processor sucks. It's worse than an underclocked iPhone 4 processor.
I froze all the AT&T apps with titanium backup.

ROM Management

hey guys, I was curious of what is the best ROM that will leave me with the most free RAM? my device gets slow often because of a lack of free RAM and I just cannot keep going through this. I'm a teen so I socialize and apps like FB and Snapchat hogs memory. I just want to use my device beautifully. someone please help me.
aaronmy said:
hey guys, I was curious of what is the best ROM that will leave me with the most free RAM? my device gets slow often because of a lack of free RAM and I just cannot keep going through this. I'm a teen so I socialize and apps like FB and Snapchat hogs memory. I just want to use my device beautifully. someone please help me.
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Use micro pop it is the best rom with more free ram and it is based on lollipop 5.0.2.. !?
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aaronmy said:
hey guys, I was curious of what is the best ROM that will leave me with the most free RAM? my device gets slow often because of a lack of free RAM and I just cannot keep going through this. I'm a teen so I socialize and apps like FB and Snapchat hogs memory. I just want to use my device beautifully. someone please help me.
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Having FB and messenger and snapchat will always hog you memory no matter what ROM you use since our ROM has only 1g of ram. They are the most anoying and demanding apps on the maket. A good thing to do after installing any ROM is to install xposed, greenify, appopps and stuff like that so you can downsize you overall memory usage killing unecesary services and what not. There are many guides on xda and here con the titan forum. Note: free RAM does not necearily mean better overall experience. If your launcher lags try using another one , i use nova.
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