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Why can't you buy a usb cable

Does anyone know if you can get a seperate usb cable for the streak yet?
I want a spare one so i can keep it in the car, or a longer one because i find the one that comes with the streak to be too short.
Anyway if anyone knows where to get one then could they let me know
Just had a thought while typing.. just buy a usb extension lead...off to buy one to see if it works.

yes Dell sell them on their website mate

Another option is a USB extention cable. I got a 6FT for like $10 at RadioShack. Works great for me, you can also buy the Dell car kit that will work as a backup USB cable.

Is there a way to buy a compatible one?
I live in italy and we can order only from dell.it that obviusly hasn't streak and accessories in their site....

enne91 said:
Is there a way to buy a compatible one?
I live in italy and we can order only from dell.it that obviusly hasn't streak and accessories in their site....
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No one does one yet

ARHMogul said:
Another option is a USB extention cable. I got a 6FT for like $10 at RadioShack. Works great for me, you can also buy the Dell car kit that will work as a backup USB cable.
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It'd have to be blooming long to use in the car, depending on the car journey
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Well it has recently been confirmed that the streaks connection port is a PDMI connection. The Slacker G2 radio also uses a PDMI but no one has tried its cable yet. Specs are one thing but fitting is another. (Think of it how the first iPhone had a 3.5mm headset jack but you had to buy the apple headphones that didn't an elbow and were narrow enough to fit in there.)
So if anybody has, or knows someone that has a Slacker G2, feel free to try the cable out and tell us all
Source:
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/08/dell-streaks-proprietary-connector-is-actually-pdmi.html

Images that I can find for the slacker 2 radio charging lead seem to show a standard mini usb connector. Maybe the pdmi connector is data only?

can u use the ones on ebay?

Now i ordered another one from Dell site....
With only one cable, I finally ran out of patience and also constant carrying existing cable from place to place everytime I moved around.....
I have to have one near my bed for reading/charging thru the night....one in the car - which I will carry around to office as well...in the coming months hopefully the price will drop or there will be another source - till then this will do.

Troute said:
Images that I can find for the slacker 2 radio charging lead seem to show a standard mini usb connector. Maybe the pdmi connector is data only?
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I guess it has both. check out this dock for the slacker g2... looks the same.. also looks like the ipod connector so don't know for sure till someone actually tests it out.
oh and here's one on amazon for 27.99

Streak adapter for iFail Accessories...

Since the cable idea didn't work out, I decided to work on a couple of other items for the Streak.
I have spec'd out an adapter for us, so that we could use the immensely huge iFail (iphone/ipod/ipad) accessory market. Things like Speaker/radio docks, et al.
We would plug our usb end into the adapter, and the other end of the adapter is fitted with a 30 pin apple female connector. I am also adding micro/mini usb..so that the adapter can be used with more devices Please tell me what you think about the cord length.
PLEASE NOTE: In this picture, the iphone end is "male"..it would be FEMALE for us!!

How about no cable but a jack type affair on the adapter so you could plug a cable into the adapter? or a short tail with plug for cable?

Bohemian said:
How about no cable but a jack type affair on the adapter so you could plug a cable into the adapter? or a short tail with plug for cable?
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That is what I really wanted..... but it is very difficult for the factory to do, and would not be cost effective....like 5x the price (without even knowing the price yet...lol)

Muscleshop said:
That is what I really wanted..... but it is very difficult for the factory to do, and would not be cost effective....like 5x the price (without even knowing the price yet...lol)
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Great work, but I would be happy to pay the 5x the price for just a streak to iPhone adapter, aslong as it was under 25 gnome
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How many pins do you plan on passing though?
USB/Power/Line out?
I'd be interested in an adapter too.
Best would be a small Female Dock <-> Male PDMI block (but as you said it might be unreasonably expensive)
How about a Female Dock <- short cable -> Male PDMI cable? Is that the plan?
Have you inquired about a simple Male PDMI <-> micro (or mini, i forget which is which) block? Along the lines of this but with PDMI/USB. Or also as a short cable of it's not reasonable price?
If you can only do a short cord + 2 connectors like the picture, can you do just like the picture of about ~1 inch?
I'm definitely interested in seeing how this plays out

TheManii said:
How many pins do you plan on passing though?
USB/Power/Line out?
I'd be interested in an adapter too.
Best would be a small Female Dock <-> Male PDMI block (but as you said it might be unreasonably expensive)
How about a Female Dock <- short cable -> Male PDMI cable? Is that the plan?
Have you inquired about a simple Male PDMI <-> micro (or mini, i forget which is which) block? Along the lines of this but with PDMI/USB. Or also as a short cable of it's not reasonable price?
If you can only do a short cord + 2 connectors like the picture, can you do just like the picture of about ~1 inch?
I'm definitely interested in seeing how this plays out
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This current plan (still working on actual dock too, separately) is:
Female iFail 30 pin <--cable --> Female Standard USB + Female Mini USB + Female Micro USB (so it appeals to more devices)
Planning on Charging/Sync/Audio
Does that answer it?

Sounds good to me. Count me in.

May I suggest a Male PDMI -> Female USB Block/Cable for connecting USB accessories to the Streak? USB Keyboards work by default, the block would just need a short wire to connect pins 2 and 4 of the PDMI together (I believe) to activate USB Host mode.

I think it already exists. Isn't this what you are looking for: cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html

still would be better for an adapter that plugged into the streak and had female micro/mini.
Something low profile that could potentially be left plugged in and left in place.
Start with a naked streak and if popular make ones for a otterbox defender/commuter, etc

TooMuchFace said:
I think it already exists. Isn't this what you are looking for: http://cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html
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This is why the internet is so important...lol Thanks for finding this "unicorn"
I searched and searched and searched but could not find it, so I decided to possibly have it made. This is very similar to what I was thinking. Differrences would be the addition of mini & micro usb female connectors with my idea. Also hoping to make it sleeker with just one cord...and for a much better price.
In addition to that, this particular site says:
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The Universal Dock Converter is CableJive's most "hobbyist" product, and as a result we are fairly open about returns, provided you are open about how it has or hasn't worked with your setup.
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Which leads me to believe it was not very well thought out.

Muscleshop said:
This is why the internet is so important...lol Also hoping to make it sleeker with just one cord...and for a much better price.
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I'm in!
(that is all I wanted to say but I can't submit posts with less than 10 characters. See... you didn't have to read this.)

I bought the converter from cablejive. It allows the music to output but doesn't charge on the usb
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Fazziebear said:
I bought the converter from cablejive. It allows the music to output but doesn't charge on the usb
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I think this would be better if the male end is PDMI
http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockStubz.html

Muscleshop said:
Since the cable idea didn't work out, I decided to work on a couple of other items for the Streak.
I have spec'd out an adapter for us, so that we could use the immensely huge iFail (iphone/ipod/ipad) accessory market. Things like Speaker/radio docks, et al.
We would plug our usb end into the adapter, and the other end of the adapter is fitted with a 30 pin apple female connector.
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I don't see how that can work.
You need the 30-pin PDMI connector on one end, and the Apple connector on the other. Here's the Streak's pinout http://linuxslate.com/#Dell_Streak_PDMI_Pinout and here's the Apple pinout http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod,_iPad_and_iPhone_dock
If it's simply going to connect USB to the Apple connector, then it will only be able to pass USB's 4 pins of data and power - there'll be no video or audio output. What's more, there are already adaptors on the market for USB to Apple, like the one already mentioned http://www.cablejive.com/products/Universal-Dock-Converter.html

Both PDMI and apple dock connectors support line out for audio, only thing it wouldnt take advantage of is video out and USB-OTG
At least what i was interested in was a PDMI <-> Dock directly

This is an intriguing project. I have a question about accessory compatibility.
I've been desperately trying to work out an external, powered mic set up for the Streak. I've established that the headphone jack, like iProducts, doesn't supply phantom power. iProducts got around this by using their dataport to power attached microphones. So in theory, this solution could connect to an iMic and supply the same power.
Here's the q: Is just having a powered mic attached via dataport (through the adapter cable) enough? Or work a supporting app have to be written to tell the device that there's a mic there and also handle the supporting software to make it work?

PDMI only supplies line out from what we know, nor does it have power out.
Even if it could do both, wouldnt it drain the battery pretty quickly?

All I care for is a line out and the charging. Who gives a damn for the video and other stuff. I care more for the pure acoustic bliss.

I would like it to just lie and say its apple so my car play music from it.. using then ipod interface..

car holder possible issue.

jsut been playing with my play, and suddenly rememberd, the battery charging socket is on the side of the phone, not top or bottom, like the other phones, i have used so far, which i understand, because of its gaming feature, however, i think this will cause issues, with many car holders, whats your experience on this, cause all only have my car monday, and i cant help, but worry, about the possibility, of having to change this. Anyone seen a decently priced car holder?, in case, i might have to change mine.

You could use the official SE DK300 docking station, some ductape and a 12V car supply to usb adapter

DroidX's charge port is on the left side. I find that to be a great place considering the car dock is specific to the X. Maybe wait for a device specific dock?
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ye i think i might have to do some diy on it then thanks for the suggestions, so its basically gone be a nightmare to get one,bummer.

svenk919 said:
You could use the official SE DK300 docking station, some ductape and a 12V car supply to usb adapter
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LOL
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Docks

Who here has purchased a Vehicle or Desk (or any other dock you found for your Atrix HD), and what are your opinions about that docks?
I own both the Vehicle and Desk docks and i don't like how the audio cable isn't built into the vehicle dock like it is in the desk dock. otherwise i like both of the docks.
a note on the vehicle dock: you need to find the right sized case to fit properly in the dock without the inside part. I bought the Incipio Feather Case, and it was too small and the phone looked like it had no support inside the car dock so i had to add the inside piece back in and remove the case from the phone every time i use my car.

My phone will not fit the desk dock without removing the case. But the desk dock doesn't do anything I care about; it didn't even come with the HDMI cable. It's nothing more than an oversized kickstand....but it was free
The car dock was also free. I like that the vehicle dock works better with my case because the plug part slides independant of the frame. I don't like that there's no option to keep it from auto launching vehicle mode. The reason they do not have it automatically plugging into your audio jack is because if you have bluetooth on your radio (and I do) it would look cheap to have a cable hanging all the time.

When i..
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jeffdaman said:
My phone will not fit the desk dock without removing the case. But the desk dock doesn't do anything I care about; it didn't even come with the HDMI cable. It's nothing more than an oversized kickstand....but it was free
The car dock was also free. I like that the vehicle dock works better with my case because the plug part slides independant of the frame. I don't like that there's no option to keep it from auto launching vehicle mode. The reason they do not have it automatically plugging into your audio jack is because if you have bluetooth on your radio (and I do) it would look cheap to have a cable hanging all the time.
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Have you tried disabling car mode app? That should keep it from launching.
Go to settings> apps>all> find vehicle mode, select it, then disable.
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jeffdaman said:
My phone will not fit the desk dock without removing the case. But the desk dock doesn't do anything I care about; it didn't even come with the HDMI cable. It's nothing more than an oversized kickstand....but it was free
The car dock was also free. I like that the vehicle dock works better with my case because the plug part slides independant of the frame. I don't like that there's no option to keep it from auto launching vehicle mode. The reason they do not have it automatically plugging into your audio jack is because if you have bluetooth on your radio (and I do) it would look cheap to have a cable hanging all the time.
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I am it came with a 3.5mm cable, but it doesnt have a built in plug for it. The charger cable can also be disconnected, and they had fine in older car docks as well as the desk dock

The RAZR/RAZR MAXX docks work as well. One of the users over at AtrixForums,com has successfully used the RAZR Desk Dock (89527N) with the Atrix HD. It's essentially the same as the one they are selling for the AHD, but it can be found for cheaper (not sure if the insert might be different). I am using the RAZR Dock Station (89526N) with the AHD. in addition to the HDMI and audio ports, it also has 3 USB ports and includes the HDMI cable. The USB ports function perfectly with the AHD.
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I have a question for anyone who has the car dock for the AHD (whether you got it free from AT&T or Costco, or purchased it retail). Did it come with a charging/audio cable? I got mine in the mail today from the Costco rebate thing (mailed the rebate form 2 weeks ago today before Thanksgiving) and it had the dock assembly and the mounting arm/suction cup... No cables. I tried the charging/audio cable from my Atrix 4G car dock and it works perfectly (including audio), but I'm wondering if the cable was supposed to be included or perhaps its only included if you buy retail.
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Yes, my came with a USB charging cable and a 3.5mm audio cable.

diamond12 said:
Yes, my came with a USB charging cable and a 3.5mm audio cable.
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Where did you get yours?
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Mine also came with both cables and I got it for 5 bucks on eBay
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hwlester said:
Where did you get yours?
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Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008N8GHDU
Note that the USB cable is not the same as the one that comes with the Atrix 4G dock p/n SKN6394A, which also has an audio connector at the end
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
It is p/n SKN6428A, which is just a micro USB to USB cable.

diamond12 said:
Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008N8GHDU
Note that the USB cable is not the same as the one that comes with the Atrix 4G dock p/n SKN6394A, which also has an audio connector at the end
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
It is p/n SKN6428A, which is just a micro USB to USB cable.
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So, you essentially got just a charging cable which plugs into the dock and also an auxiliary cable which you plug from the headphone jack to your car?
$20 for that cable? Ouch.
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Mine also came with both cables and I got it for 5 bucks on eBay
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How about yours? Does the USB cable carry both power and audio like the 4G one did?
My 4G cable works fine with this dock, even though the Atrix HD is not listed as compatible on that other cable. If Motorola is just including plain cables, perhaps Costco is counting the bonus charger and cables they gave me as the cables I'm supposed to use with the dock. Costco didn't include an aux cable, though.
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hwlester said:
So, you essentially got just a charging cable which plugs into the dock and also an auxiliary cable which you plug from the headphone jack to your car?
$20 for that cable? Ouch.
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Well, I kept the 4G cable. Definitely don't wanna be plugging in an audio cable. Can also confirm the 4G cable works fine. It's actually funny, if I also plug the headphone the sound stops coming from the dock and comes from the headphone output.

diamond12 said:
Well, I kept the 4G cable. Definitely don't wanna be plugging in an audio cable. Can also confirm the 4G cable works fine. It's actually funny, if I also plug the headphone the sound stops coming from the dock and comes from the headphone output.
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Aha, so you GOT both USB and auxiliary cables, but you're using the 4G cable like I am.
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hwlester said:
The RAZR/RAZR MAXX docks work as well. One of the users over at AtrixForums,com has successfully used the RAZR Desk Dock (89527N) with the Atrix HD. It's essentially the same as the one they are selling for the AHD, but it can be found for cheaper (not sure if the insert might be different). I am using the RAZR Dock Station (89526N) with the AHD. in addition to the HDMI and audio ports, it also has 3 USB ports and includes the HDMI cable. The USB ports function perfectly with the AHD.
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Just got a RAZR dock station too and can confirm the USB ports work perfectly. Keyboard, mouse and flash disks!

diamond12 said:
Just got a RAZR dock station too and can confirm the USB ports work perfectly. Keyboard, mouse and flash disks!
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Good to know. I haven't tried a USB mouse or keyboard, but I suspected they would work as well.
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NEXUS 7 Car install Diagram

Hi All,
If this has been done before please ignore.
I have been doing a fair bit of research on the NEXUS 7 as a car head deck but no diagram to go off.
Can you please advise if the Diagram below is accurate or if i need to amend certain areas to make it work. The NEXUS 7 will be slide in slide out.

Subscribed to see what others have to say. I am hoping to skip the head unit and sub and go right from the N7 to the amp. My worry is getting clean audio out of the N7 while it gets power.
I have a ground issue somewhere currently where if I am charging a device and have it plugged into the aux port of my head unit, I get tons of static and noise.
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Only comment I'd make is that if you're going to use the POGO pins to power it why not grab the audio from there also? Seems safer to use a non intrusive (without a plug going into the Nexus) method over sticking in the headphone jack.
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He probably didn't know he can do that. You can also use a USB dac and get audio that way. Probably much cleaner and it will also fix his ground loop issues.
I owned a Galaxy Tab before the N7 and it was MUCH WORSE at adding noise to the headphone output. The N7 is much much better at isolating that ground.

NRGZ28 said:
He probably didn't know he can do that. You can also use a USB dac and get audio that way. Probably much cleaner and it will also fix his ground loop issues.
I owned a Galaxy Tab before the N7 and it was MUCH WORSE at adding noise to the headphone output. The N7 is much much better at isolating that ground.
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Correct i didn't even know what those 2 pins were for Audio or if they were for D+ & D- so thanks I have adjusted the picture accordingly. If you could check that out that would be great. After i get everything from Evil Bay this week i will do lots of pictures and full write up.
Thanks So excited to get started.

Wilkie2013 said:
Correct i didn't even know what those 2 pins were for Audio or if they were for D+ & D- so thanks I have adjusted the picture accordingly. If you could check that out that would be great. After i get everything from Evil Bay this week i will do lots of pictures and full write up.
Thanks So excited to get started.
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so are you saying that the POGO pins are THAT simple? and here i was building a dock for my N7!
if this is true, you rock man!

Unless your drawing is just an example, your speaker wiring needs to be changed so you're not daisy chaining the signal. Run 'home runs' to each driver.
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Also there's no need as in actually you can't do that have a DAC on the audio lines. They are analog L+ and R+ with the ground being common between power-, L- and R-. Look for the POGO thread over in the accessories subforum along with one on a homemade dock for more info. There is no USB on the POGO pins.
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Wilkie2013 said:
Correct i didn't even know what those 2 pins were for Audio or if they were for D+ & D- so thanks I have adjusted the picture accordingly. If you could check that out that would be great. After i get everything from Evil Bay this week i will do lots of pictures and full write up.
Thanks So excited to get started.
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Close, but not there yet. The 2 middle POGO pins are Audio +/-, and won't connect to a DAC as it's already an analog output. You can connect the DAC via USB though, and get the highest quality audio possible out of the N7.
HOWEVER: if you want to charge AND use OTG (DAC and external storage will connect via OTG), then you'll need a kernel which will support that. Running power through the POGO pins also requires a special kernel. This is the only one I know of:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/37755-timurs-kernel-usb-host-power-management-usb-audio/
The fixed installation is the best choice for car applications.
Alternatively you can use audio out and charge through the POGO, and use a kernel like faux123's kernel to charge and have USB OTG (but won't work with a USB DAC), though there are limitations to this setup.
EDIT: I've attached a diagram of my current car setup.

junooni said:
so are you saying that the POGO pins are THAT simple? and here i was building a dock for my N7!
if this is true, you rock man!
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Close, but not there yet. The 2 middle POGO pins are Audio +/-, and won't connect to a DAC as it's already an analog output. You can connect the DAC via USB though, and get the highest quality audio possible out of the N7.
HOWEVER: if you want to charge AND use OTG (DAC and external storage will connect via OTG), then you'll need a kernel which will support that. Running power through the POGO pins also requires a special kernel. This is the only one I know of:
The fixed installation is the best choice for car applications.
Alternatively you can use audio out and charge through the POGO, and use a kernel like faux123's kernel to charge and have USB OTG (but won't work with a USB DAC), though there are limitations to this setup.
EDIT: I've attached a diagram of my current car setup.
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Thank you for your diagram you've definately got alot going on in your car Looks good.
This is what i have bought.
Nexus 7
FiiO E10 USB DAC
Clarion EQ746
3ft male to female USB connection
3.1A Dual USB Charger
Micro USB female
AUX to RCA ( Not sure what ill be using this for now )
Pogo Pins
Magnets ( Not sure if I'll use these yet )
Will the above work? I've read way to many forums on this subject and no one is actually clear.
If i cut up and strip back the rubber around a Male USB can i use this as my POGO pins connector to the USB DAC + Kernel suggested?
*phillip1953* It is just a quick drawing and i can assure you this won't happen when installing.
Everyones input is greatly appreciated Thank you.

I think I have a working diagram to go off. On a positive note my NEXUS 7 arrived today Wohoo.
Also when i get free time i will also create a Nexus 7 dock with built in speakers using the OEM POGO pins?

Wilkie2013 said:
I think I have a working diagram to go off. On a positive note my NEXUS 7 arrived today Wohoo.
Also when i get free time i will also create a Nexus 7 dock with built in speakers using the OEM POGO pins?
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You really need to read the whole thread that MetalMan posted above. It will show you what you're doing wrong, and give you more to think about.
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I really wouldn't charge off the pogo pins if I were you. Get a USB OTG + Charging Y Cable and just plug/unplug that as needed.