I'm looking to purchase a Galaxy S next month. I live in the USA, but I travel to Thailand every year. I'd like to get one phone that will work on both AT&T and AIS for both voice and data. (3G on both would be great!) While traveling in Thailand, I really want to be able to tether my netbook through the phone.
Anyone have recommendations as to which Galaxy S I should get?
over in Europe + Asia they only have 1 model
they all come with triband 3G WCDMA 900/1900/2100
and quad band Voice/EDGE 850/900/1900/2100
so you wont go wrong in getting any Galaxy S as "There Is Only One" (hmmm... sounds which movie was it from?)
unless you get the wrong Galaxy Lite, or Galaxy 5000 series, or Galaxy 8000 series or Galaxy 7000 series
My concern is the 3G WCDMA 850MHz vs 900 MHz for data. I know that AT&T uses 850 MHz, but AIS in Thailand is using 900 MHz. While it's true that 3G is just starting to roll out in Thailand (limited coverage and all), I would like to get a phone that I'll be able to use when they do get it all covered.
If I get an unlocked Captivate for use on the AT&T network, would putting in a sim from AIS automatically switch the 3G WCDMA over to the 900 MHz band (if available)?
Or is the radio hardware-fixed on this? (I've searched for an answer on this, but can't find a straight answer.)
there is no phone with both 850 and 900 3g...
I think your only chance for a 3G phone that works in both USA and Thailand is the Captivate. True Move in Thailand has 3G on 850mhz, which the Captivate uses.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Thailand#Contact
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lgkahn said:
there is no phone with both 850 and 900 3g...
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. I guess the GSM radio is separate from the 3G CDMA radio (since the GSM can do both 850 and 900).
Ben74 said:
I think your only chance for a 3G phone that works in both USA and Thailand is the Captivate. True Move in Thailand has 3G on 850mhz, which the Captivate uses.
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I'll be traveling to Trat and Koh Chang. True doesn't have coverage there as far as I can tell.
Anyway, thanks for the info!
i would buy the i9000m from canada or the i9000t or i9000b from south america b4 the captivate.. captivate.. has poor 3g upload, and no front camera.
software_samurai said:
That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. I guess the GSM radio is separate from the 3G CDMA radio (since the GSM can do both 850 and 900).
I'll be traveling to Trat and Koh Chang. True doesn't have coverage there as far as I can tell.
Anyway, thanks for the info!
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As far as I can tell, there's no 3G coverage in Trat and Koh Chang from any operator in Thailand. You'll only get GPRS/EDGE coverage there.
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if there any big difference between between the Tmobile and AT&T samsung tab?
Does one have better features or better pre-loaded apps? Are both easily rootable? If so, which is better?
The only internal hardware difference is that the T-Mobile tab supports the T-Mobile 3G bands whereas the ATT tab supports ATT bands. Also, the ATT tab will be better if you were to travel a lot in Europe as it can support European 3G frequencies.
There are also some changes in design on the back of the tab (mostly in regards to color). As for preinstalled apps, I an unsure as I do not own a T-Mobile tab.
synplex said:
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if there any big difference between between the Tmobile and AT&T samsung tab?
Does one have better features or better pre-loaded apps? Are both easily rootable? If so, which is better?
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The T-Mobile one will work with T-Mobiles faster 3G HSPA+ network. Not at 4G though, just faster than 3G. However, this it not available everywhere.
In the EU, the T-Mobile version will only support Edge, whereas the AT&T version will support 3G.
The most important piece is AT&T version could be used as a phone w Euro firmware and an existing AT&T SIM card. Sounded like you're not an AT&T user but it's doable.
For Tmob tab, you could also set it up as a phone but you will need a data plan then setup GV+IPKall+SIPDroid if you don't want to pay for Skype.
caveman999 said:
The only internal hardware difference is that the T-Mobile tab supports the T-Mobile 3G bands whereas the ATT tab supports ATT bands. Also, the ATT tab will be better if you were to travel a lot in Europe as it can support European 3G frequencies.
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The TMo Tab supports European 3G frequencies too.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
The TMo Tab supports European 3G frequencies too.
Regards,
Dave
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It can?
I know it wont wont in the UK, as their 3G frequency is 2100 and i believe the T-Mobile tab uses a different frequency for uploads vs downloads (1700 and 2100).
dh010447 said:
It can?
I know it wont wont in the UK, as their 3G frequency is 2100 and i believe the T-Mobile tab uses a different frequency for uploads vs downloads (1700 and 2100).
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It will work in the UK.
Read the specs. Follow the link, and click on specs.
The TMo US Tab supports:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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The UK, and the pretty much the world outside of North America, uses UMTS Band I.
Regards,
Dave
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
It will work in the UK.
Read the specs. Follow the link, and click on specs.
The TMo US Tab supports:
The UK, and the pretty much the world outside of North America, uses UMTS Band I.
Regards,
Dave
Regards,
Dave
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I got the specs from Samsung's website, they are posted as:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900; UMTS : Band IV(1700), I(2100) & Wi-Fi
I read the UMTS bands as the AWS 1700/2100, (1700Mhz u/l; 2100Mhz d/l) not AWS(1700/2100) and UMTS 2100 (so only able to download on the 2100, not upload on this frequency).
It does seem a little unclear, but if it really does support 2100Mhz upload and download, that would be awesome!! Would also mean you could unlock it and put a 3G AT&T Sim in it...
Anyone know this for sure?
dh010447 said:
if it really does support 2100Mhz upload and download, that would be awesome!! Would also mean you could unlock it and put a 3G AT&T Sim in it...
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Doesn't Att 3g run off of 850/1900Mhz, not 2100?
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Doesn't Att 3g run off of 850/1900Mhz, not 2100?
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Yeah - your right, 1900 not 2100. Getting a bit carried away....
dh010447 said:
I read the UMTS bands as the AWS 1700/2100, (1700Mhz u/l; 2100Mhz d/l) not AWS(1700/2100) and UMTS 2100 (so only able to download on the 2100, not upload on this frequency).
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Trust me, it's fine.
Band IV is AWS and completely separate from Band I. Even the Samsung website explicitly mentions the bands it supports. European 3G uses Band I so it will work.
Regards,
Dave
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Trust me, it's fine.
Band IV is AWS and completely separate from Band I. Even the Samsung website explicitly mentions the bands it supports. European 3G uses Band I so it will work.
Regards,
Dave
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That is awesome.. The only thing, other than cost, holding me back was that it might not work in the UK.
Now I just have to convince myself that i will get $350 + monthly data use out of it. Price, though expensive, is not really an issue but if I bought it and didn't use it, i would get into trouble from the missus.... :s
Flash T-Mobile Tab to support AT&T Voice
FYI - I followed Rotohammer's directions and i flashed a T-Mobile Tab, then unlocked it, and after I inserted my AT&T sim, I had phone and Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886714
However, I'm trying to figure out if I can load a new modem and get AT&T 3G on this tab (bought from T-Mobile)? I tried the bell modem but it didn't work. Am I safe to assume that the T-Mobile hardware will support AT&T 3G and I only need to find the right software?
Thanks - these forums are great... Sorry if this is the wrong spot.
caryawilson said:
FYI - I followed Rotohammer's directions and i flashed a T-Mobile Tab, then unlocked it, and after I inserted my AT&T sim, I had phone and Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886714
However, I'm trying to figure out if I can load a new modem and get AT&T 3G on this tab (bought from T-Mobile)? I tried the bell modem but it didn't work. Am I safe to assume that the T-Mobile hardware will support AT&T 3G and I only need to find the right software?
Thanks - these forums are great... Sorry if this is the wrong spot.
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Don't waste your time and or brick your Tab. Tmo Tab will never get 3G on an ATT sim card because it doesn't do 3G on 850/1900mhz band. Hardware doesn't support ATT's 3G bands.
dh010447 said:
That is awesome.. The only thing, other than cost, holding me back was that it might not work in the UK.
Now I just have to convince myself that i will get $350 + monthly data use out of it. Price, though expensive, is not really an issue but if I bought it and didn't use it, i would get into trouble from the missus.... :s
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I understand the feeling. I initially went with the Tmobile version but at a data rate coming up to almost $70 after taxes ($59.99 unlimited data for not having my phone with Tmobile), I took it back, paid the $10 restocking fee and went with the at&t version. After roto's rom to enable phone i just plop in my existing unlimited (grandfathered) at&t sim and i'm golden.
Either way I did the analysis....and i believe it was after like 8 months the AT&T version comes out cheaper and if i recall that was WITH the 2GB data plan included.
Excel is your friend!
trinikartel said:
I initially went with the Tmobile version but at a data rate coming up to almost $70 after taxes ($59.99 unlimited data for not having my phone with Tmobile), I took it back, paid the $10 restocking fee and went with the at&t version.
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Huh? $59.99 per month?
I thought it was just $39.99/mo for 5GB of data on T-mo even if the tablet was your only device...
trinikartel said:
I understand the feeling. I initially went with the Tmobile version but at a data rate coming up to almost $70 after taxes ($59.99 unlimited data for not having my phone with Tmobile), I took it back, paid the $10 restocking fee and went with the at&t version. After roto's rom to enable phone i just plop in my existing unlimited (grandfathered) at&t sim and i'm golden.
Either way I did the analysis....and i believe it was after like 8 months the AT&T version comes out cheaper and if i recall that was WITH the 2GB data plan included.
Excel is your friend!
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Tmo does not have a $59.99 data-only plan. It's $39.99 for 5GB, after which you're throttled past the 5GB allotment. No overages.
But i prefer AT&T's $24.99 2GB plan (don't need calling, already have a phone). The price is just right. Still looking to trade my Tmo Tab for an ATT one...
Yup caught me off guard. The the tmo salesman explained it to me instore. If or when I take my phone with tmo I will get a $10 discount on the data plan. Fishy but whatever, I was never a t-mobile customer so I just went along with it but yes normally its 39.99
Bumping this as I was going to get a WiFi only TAB but with its inferior hardware I'm looking at a 3G TAB.
On Amazon the Tmobile version is a lot cheaper at $475 than the AT&T version at $550, not sure why?
Anyway I'll be using it in Europe so it seems the Tmobile version would do the trick with its 2100Mhz frequency?
webvan said:
Bumping this as I was going to get a WiFi only TAB but with its inferior hardware I'm looking at a 3G TAB.
On Amazon the Tmobile version is a lot cheaper at $475 than the AT&T version at $550, not sure why?
Anyway I'll be using it in Europe so it seems the Tmobile version would do the trick with its 2100Mhz frequency?
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The AT&T version has always been more expensive...just the way it's been priced I guess. If your only or mainly going to be using it in Europe you will be fine with the T-Mobile version as it will run 3G on 900/2100 over there
If you're keen on digging around with different roms and are comfortable flashing around then go for it. But if you're looking for a smooth out of the box experience off the bat (with calling etc enable) I'd wait and pick up one over there....just my 2 cents
im curious if this would work. can i take the modem 'drive' from a 959 and put it on my 895 and have it work? basically what I'm curious is does the Galaxy Captivate have the hardware capability to receive UMTS and restricted by the modem or is it a physically different hardware and only able to receive GSM/HSDPA?
The captivate can use UMTS. The captivate lacks the proper bands to use UMTS on t-mobile. Software will not solve for this as this is due to the hardware wireless radio. The vibrant, however, has the bands needed for 3G on both t-mobile and at&t. You will only get GPRS/EDGE on t-mobile with a captivate. I assume this is what you were trying to solve for?
I was actually trying to take my Captivate and have it work on Wind Mobile (UMTS canadian provider)
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I was actually trying to take my Captivate and have it work on Wind Mobile (UMTS canadian provider)
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Which bands do they use? Is it 1700 and 2100 like t-mobile?
EDIT: yeah, it looks like it.
Your on the wrong section this is best posted on the Q&A section not dev.
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jacobharasimo said:
I was actually trying to take my Captivate and have it work on Wind Mobile (UMTS canadian provider)
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Wrong section, but the answer is that Wind and Mobilicity in Canada uses AWS. Their equipment transmits at 1710–1755 MHz, and receives at 2110–2155 MHz
I think the closest would be phones sold by T-Mobile.
Tread Moved.
Hi all, I am having trouble getting my unlocked note that I bought from amazon working on my Cincinnati bell network. I have voice but after searching the internet I tried a few different apn settings but can only seem to get the 2g edge network and not 3g let alone 4g. Any help would be greatly appreciated
i believe 2g is all you will get. cincinnati bell runs 1700/2100 3/4g and your note uses 850/1900. same problem as tmobile usa except the few western states using the 1900 for 3/4g.....
Jesus, how can a country that influent be so totally retarded when it comes to getting a mobile phone to work across the entire country? There's like a million standards and not even the same within a single operator. Get with the times - heard about GSM/WCDMA you know that the rest of the entire would uses?
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Thanks, I heard T-Mobile runs the same network as Cincinnati Bell, would their galaxy s II work then?
tmous branded "should" work.. uses the same freq...
You can get more than 2G. CB has their own 3G network but you have to go to the store and upgrade your SIM card
RandoTheKing said:
You can get more than 2G. CB has their own 3G network but you have to go to the store and upgrade your SIM card
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That does not seem to be the point here... The point is that it seems Cincinnati Bell uses frequencies that are NOT compatible with the N7000 being the 1700/2100 band as opposed to the 850/1900 band that the N7000 uses.
As the title suggests, my parents are currently in Hong Kong and will be returning in a few days. I was wondering if anyone in Canada has managed to test the phone out on the Rogers network? If you are in Toronto, have you been able to receive LTE? I have checked on Wikipedia the bands for Rogers Canada and for a mobile company in HK that share the same 2600mhz frequency in hopes that it may work. Any opinions/answers will be much appreciated!
To make sure you get a perfect answer on network compatibility you may be best asking at a Samsung store or a phone store as they will know 100%
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As the title suggests, my parents are currently in Hong Kong and will be returning in a few days. I was wondering if anyone in Canada has managed to test the phone out on the Rogers network? If you are in Toronto, have you been able to receive LTE? I have checked on Wikipedia the bands for Rogers Canada and for a mobile company in HK that share the same 2600mhz frequency in hopes that it may work. Any opinions/answers will be much appreciated!
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Yes, I can confirm it will as I am on Rogers, and have one of these wonderful devices..
I just wish there was Cyanogen or The Collective for this phone
The Galaxy S3 dual core LTE that Rogers currently lists on their website uses the 1700/2100 bands for LTE, it is the SGH-I747 model. The i9305 is listed as 800/1800/2600 for LTE, which are completely different.
Also notice the i9305 is missing 1900 MHz 3G frequency. Rogers 3G operates on 850/1900 for 3G, so you may not have full 3G coverage in places as well.
I don't think the guy above me saying LTE works for him actually has the same device you're asking about. Just from looking at the frequency bands, there is no way LTE will work on Rogers. If you want a quad core LTE Galaxy S3 that works on Rogers, you will have to wait. The Galaxy S4 is going to be announced in the spring as well, so you might want to wait anyway.