D4 is out - Motorola Droid 3

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-DROID-4_id6431

Boooooooooo

No, it's not out.
It was only now made official/announced.

It isn't even a big upgrade. 4g is the only real addon. We can hack the rest with our customizing abilities.
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MrObvious said:
It isn't even a big upgrade. 4g is the only real addon. We can hack the rest with our customizing abilities.
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I dont think its global. I like the global option on my D3.

MrObvious said:
It isn't even a big upgrade. 4g is the only real addon. We can hack the rest with our customizing abilities.
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and 1gb ram

ubermetroid said:
I dont think its global. I like the global option on my D3.
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It supports GSM as per the release statement. However, I don't feel it is a BIG deal compared to D3. The biggest problem I have with D4 is its non-removable battery. In 4G environment and without the option of using extended battery, users may have to switch back to 3G in order to survive the day.
In addition, 1.2G cpu is a marginal improvement of 1.0. 1G of RAM will benefit those who run a lot of apps. IMHO, it is NOT realistic, it is not yet a PC.
At the end, the price it will demand could be $200-$300 initially. I paid $40.00 two weeks ago @ costco. Two months after D4 in the market, it is just like one of the many phones. Who cares?
If D3 serves you well, enjoy it!

Is it global? I didn't see that capability listed in the press release, but perhaps I missed it. I know it was in some of the initial specs, but I believe the Bionic and RAZR also listed those bands as available in initial specs but when released did not include it. I remember reading somewhere that all three use the same Qualcomm chipset that is GSM capable, which makes it easy for Motorla to transfer the device to overseas markets, hence initial Motorla specs that show GSM, but it's disabled/antennas are swapped out depending on markets.
I would think that if Droid 4 was global, Verizon would have touted that heavily in the press release as its first 4g LTE global phone. Just look at how it touted global capabilities in its press releases today about the global ready 4g LTE hotspot mifi devices.
Regarding non-removable battery - ridiculous. The battery cover lifts off for SIM access, why make the battery non-removable? Perhaps they are waiting to come out with the Droid 4 MAXX just like the RAZR MAXX - 3300mah power in a case 1mm-2mm thicker.

thanx cant wait to get this phone

by the time it reaches the developpers, and they deal with it, and new roms will be available..probably D5 will be out )
so i will stick to D3 with custom roms until they issue something much better and they unlock the bootloader.

The next phone I buy WILL have an unlocked bootloader. Seems like a nice phone but unless it gets unlocked, forget it!

Everybody (Engadget especially) who saw the phone in person, keeps quiet on screen technology/quality. Which makes me believe we got the same RGBW TFT screen from D3. If so - another disappointment..

It looks like it will not be global (only CDMA and LTE), one more difference from D3 - webtop and laptop docks I guess...

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It supports GSM as per the release statement.
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Verizon's announcement says nothing about GSM or about it being a world phone. The new Blackberry Curve was announced as a world phone, so my guess is that the Verizon version at least is CDMA/LTE only. (It makes sense - I can imagine a dual-SIM phone could be confusing to most consumers, unless there is a way to make a dual LTE and GSM SIM slot.)
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It looks like it will not be global (only CDMA and LTE), one more difference from D3 - webtop and laptop docks I guess...
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One more - we know that this one is getting an official ICS. We still don't know about the D3 and ICS.

You are right, I couldn't find GSM support in verizon's statement. It does show up in the spec posted in one of the sites ... couldn't remember the name though.
Hope D4 comes to market sooner than later so I can get more discounts on D3 accessories.
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Verizon's announcement says nothing about GSM or about it being a world phone. The new Blackberry Curve was announced as a world phone, so my guess is that the Verizon version at least is CDMA/LTE only. (It makes sense - I can imagine a dual-SIM phone could be confusing to most consumers, unless there is a way to make a dual LTE and GSM SIM slot.)
One more - we know that this one is getting an official ICS. We still don't know about the D3 and ICS.
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Well if it's got the same PenTile display with the same resolution, only a 0.2GHz speed bump, essentially the same chipsets, and and non-removable battery (Ugh), it's not even worth the time or money to upgrade. Its only real bragging right is the doubled RAM; 4G LTE would be a bragging right, if it weren't just going to drain the measley little non-removable stock battery in 5 hours flat. Screw that.

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You are right, I couldn't find GSM support in verizon's statement. It does show up in the spec posted in one of the sites ... couldn't remember the name though.
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here ? developer.motorola.com/products/droid-4-xt894/

leobg said:
Everybody (Engadget especially) who saw the phone in person, keeps quiet on screen technology/quality. Which makes me believe we got the same RGBW TFT screen from D3. If so - another disappointment..
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Quoting myself - screen is the same as on Droid 3. qHD TFT RGBW PenTile matrix. Two thumbs down!
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here ? http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-4-xt894/
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Yeah - GSM/HSPA is listed and I won't be surprised if they work. But this time they seem to have missed the North American and Australian 850/1900 bands. Only the Euro 900/2100 bands are enlisted. Good for guys across the pond but not for guys like me in nearby countries. Anyways screen sucks - I am passing by this time. Waiting to see what Motorola will pull out for the next iteration, which I'm sure will be on the market by this summer

There is something odd with the GSM/UMTS bands. The band 900 is hardly present here in Europe, and for good reason neither D2G nor D3 supported it -- nobody missed it. But the 900/2100 combination is very common for European handsets.
I rather think the GSM related specs are mistakingly listed at the Motorola site. Most likely D4 isn't GSM capable at all.
BTW, I still love the display.
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BTW, I still love the display.
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.....Seriously?
The DROID 3 (and thus the DROID 4) has the worst screen I've ever seen on a device. The resolution and size is nice, and visibility in sunlight is great, but the nature of the screen sucks ****. If things move fast enough on screen, you can see the same thin in multiple places. Example: going through homescreens fast looks like a rainbow. Slowly scrolling homescreens leaves a very noticeable ghosting effect. I could go on, but my keyboard is annoying me with the 30% failure of the "b" and "a" keys every time I press them.
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Pros & Cons Of Incredible S

Pros & Cons Of Incredible S
Why isn't there any thread concerning this is definitely one great phone to get ones hands on
So I thought why not start discussion about Incredible S as one great pro I believe it being no more a Verizon exclusive maybe it later becomes their flagship product who knows only time can tell
Ill list mine, assuming it is going to have TMo 3G.
Pros:
- 4" display
- It looks great
- Decent CPU and GPU
- 768M ram
- the fancy rotating button display
- basically an adult looking mt4g, which is good since that is a great phone technically
Cons:
- No qHD,still 800x480
- not 4.3" (i still dont know if I care, might be easier to one-hand a 4", no that's not what she said..)
- No TMo 4G? Cant confirm, but it appears to be the myTouch 4G in a classier package so the chipset should support it
- the fancy rotating button display if it uses battery of significance
- not dual core (though this may not matter too much right away)
I may get this depending on when and if they announce the pyramid dates, just so i can get a new gadget fix for a while...
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I'm considering this phone so I'll add a few to that list:
Pros:
Notification LED (yeah, this one really matters to me)
1.3 MP Front camera (not that I actually use them)
EDGE at up to 560 kbps download speed (usually phones have less than half that)
Cons:
Will probably have poor battery life (See complaints about HTC's myTouch 4G)
Only 1.1 GB Storage (I assume that is the free space)
S-LCD Screen (rather than Super AMOLED Plus)
No HDMI Out (or TV-Out of any kind that I can see)
No Gyroscope
[hfm] said:
- No TMo 4G? Cant confirm, but it appears to be the myTouch 4G in a classier package so the chipset should support it
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From the HTC website:
HSPA/WCDMA:
* Europe/Asia: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
3G:
* Up to 14.4 Mbps download speed
* Up to 5.76 Mbps upload speed
This means that it should support 3G on T-Mobile USA at speeds that American networks claim to be 4G. I believe that this is the same as the myTouch 4G.
DuoM said:
No HDMI Out (or TV-Out of any kind that I can see)
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DLNA better. No need wires.
ckkcc said:
DLNA better. No need wires.
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Unfortunately I don't see DLNA listed on the HTC website for this phone like they did with other phones.
DuoM said:
I don't see DLNA listed on the HTC website for this phone like they did with other phones.
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From official page : "Big becomes bigger
Of course you'll have photos and videos to share with your friends, so impress them when you wirelessly stream what's on your HTC Incredible S direct to the TV via DLNA."
ckkcc said:
From official page : "Big becomes bigger
Of course you'll have photos and videos to share with your friends, so impress them when you wirelessly stream what's on your HTC Incredible S direct to the TV via DLNA."
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Ah, thanks. I see it now.
Thanks
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Incredible 2 is happening in Verizon so this makes Incredible S obsolete already wonderful work by HTC so this probably is as Steve Jobs says DOA means dead on arrival
Malik828 said:
Incredible 2 is happening in Verizon so this makes Incredible S obsolete already wonderful work by HTC so this probably is as Steve Jobs says DOA means dead on arrival
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This its still a very viable phone. DOA could be further from the truth. I hate to break it to us, but the XDA hard-to-impress lot are a small minority compared to the average consumer who gets the phone recommended to the by a store clerk. Not to mention Verizon its far from the only carrier in existence.
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This its still a very viable phone. DOA could be further from the truth. I hate to break it to us, but the XDA hard-to-impress lot are a small minority compared to the average consumer who gets the phone recommended to the by a store clerk. Not to mention Verizon its far from the only carrier in existence.
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Store Clerks are present for facilitate consumers as research concerned they don't bother xda lot can quickly spot winner loosers Verizon exclusive means a lot as product successful in USA means automatic great all over the world as case with iPhone 4 long years with AT&T now on Verizon
Malik828 said:
Incredible 2 is happening in Verizon so this makes Incredible S obsolete already wonderful work by HTC so this probably is as Steve Jobs says DOA means dead on arrival
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You do realize the Incredible S and Incredible 2 are essentially the same device right? Only difference is Verizon's version will have a CDMA/GSM chip for global use and probably a 16GB microSD card.
Could you be willing enough to provide a link to where you read about this 16gb Incredible 2 and also that only this much change happen when launched at Verizon
tep
EggoEspada said:
You do realize the Incredible S and Incredible 2 are essentially the same device right? Only difference is Verizon's version will have a CDMA/GSM chip for global use and probably a 16GB microSD card.
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agreed. this would appear to be true
No one willing provide link
Doesnt the 2 owns a dualcore also?
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Anyone recommend me this or DHD? I'm looking at the DHD mainly because it is cheaper.I dont really mind the DHD size. for me, bigger is better
olyloh6696 said:
Anyone recommend me this or DHD? I'm looking at the DHD mainly because it is cheaper.I dont really mind the DHD size. for me, bigger is better
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This one if you can choose between, upgrade from DHD to IS is IMHO not worth it.
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This one if you can choose between, upgrade from DHD to IS is IMHO not worth it.
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But i thought they have the exact same specs?
olyloh6696 said:
Anyone recommend me this or DHD? I'm looking at the DHD mainly because it is cheaper.I dont really mind the DHD size. for me, bigger is better
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For me the bigger screen is better too BUT the problem with the DHD is that it comes with a 1230 mAh battery that fits inside the body so a significantly bigger battery can't be used.
Also the battery cover is so flimsy and useless that I wouldn't want to have to take it off and put it on again... ever. It really is some poor design.
If it weren't for the battery issue I would have bought the DHD last year. Now I'm looking at the Incredible S.

Droid4? LTE...

I'm going to be pissed if this comes out soon. I just got my D3 a few months ago
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/motorola-droid-4-exposed-to-our-wandering-eyes-comes-with-lte-i/
If this is true my D3 will hit ebay and I'll buy a nexus. This is just bad business, asinine.
I don't see how they can do this to consumers and think it's okay. I signed an additional 2 years onto my 1 year for this phone, just to be ****ed in the ass 3 months later. I will not buy anything but nexus in the future. One phone a year, like it's supposed to be.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
Rlin5741 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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Non removable battery is an instant do not want from me also, but I'm just pissed about this ****. I will never buy another motorola phone, I'm done. Give me Nexus or give me death.
I paid full retail for this phone right when it came out, I'm pretty pissed. If that comes out within the next few months (from the looks of it, it will) it'll be goodbye moto and hello nexus for me.
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Yeah ill be pretty frustrated @ moto too.... problem is I can't live without a keyboard and for some reason moto is the only company willing to put out higher end keyboard phones
Well, the Nexus looks great (as long as you are ok with something that big - I am not), and I do love the idea of a pure Google experience, but nobody has actually used one; we have no idea how good or bad it will be. And, this is a Samsung phone, and is coming out even closer to the launch of the Samsung Charge than any the presumed D4 is coming to the D3. This is the reality - you reach a point to get an upgrade, you get the upgrade, and you stop worrying whether something slightly better is coming out in a few months - because it is.
I'm ok with a thinner device with non-removable battery - I have chargers everywhere, including in my car, and there are plenty of great portable charging devices that you can get for phones like that. After tons of issue with the Bionic over two weeks dropping data (3G, in areas where I know I have a solid 3G signal), I'm happy to have the D3 for the next 19.5 months, and give plenty of time to Moto and VZW to get LTE truly ready for prime time - because it's not quite there now. The D3 is a great phone and I'll be fine with it; not a single data drop since I've had it, and battery life is about the same as the Bionic (when it was running CDMA only).
I do think that this angle-cornered design of the Razr and this prototype is a bit on the unattractive side, though, compared with the Bionic/D3.
I don't mind that they are putting out another version of the Droid soon. It's a losing battle to have the latest and greatest phone. What bothers me is what will happen to OS updates. Will phones get abandoned quicker?
Also did anyone else notice non-removable battery, looks like I wouldn't buy it. I pay an and a leg for a phone along with a plan and both Verizon and Motorola act like they own your phone. Do they not realize why people buy Android phones? I can upgrade/swap batteries, I can run whatever programs I want, I can add a memory card, etc.
for people like sims and whitty who have been doing a lot of work on the d3 and are being ostracized, i firmly believe this is an idiotic move on moto's side. I'm probably gonna go the nexus route if the d4 drops as soon as everyone is speculating it is. This is some major bs.
At least I have the Transformer Prime to look forward to....
But seriously. Ugh. Waco has no 4G of any kind and won't for years to come so this doesn't affect me too much, but still. This will take away a huge amount of potential users and will piss off all the D3 buyers, especially the ones like me who bought it on full retail.
I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
Most people won't have 4G for at least another year. By then, that phone will be obsolete, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff.
*If you're not on Gingerbread, you should be shot*
Really, who cares about 4G when the 3G part is not on par with a 3 years old Sonyericsson phone ?
Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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MrObvious said:
Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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It is a big deal because if someone wants a qwerty are they going to buy the 3 or the 4? We'll be left behind with a smaller community, as great as it is. It's just frustrating and I've had it with moto's bull****.
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rweb said:
I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
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Interesting point, if it does have a GSM radio, this will be the first Global capable phone with LTE. How wold that even work, 2 SIM cards?
Non-replaceable battery will keep it off my list too. I'm in the NYC Metro Area and I know a few people with LTE phones, Bionic, Charge and TB. All have the same complaint, the battery life is horrible and they have constant connection issues. I'm waiting until next year summer-fall when the 2nd or 3rd generation LTE chips come out.
i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
Motorola can't be serious, Droid 3 is only about 4 month old.
And I don't really like the curved design
jellman said:
i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
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If you're on unlimited data now (using 3G), when you switch to a 4G phone you stay on unlimited data (now using 4G).

Droid 4...

I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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You forgot the LTE radio.
You also get ICS and Webtop support iirc
4g lte is major...
Will the Droid 4 be a Global phone again?
Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
What about the screen?
Another problem is that D4's LTE is only good for Verizon.
DYP, screen seems to be the same as D3's. Screenshots clearly showed pentile matrix and specs say TFT - so it must be the same crappy screen as D3.
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Dri94 said:
i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Yeah i agree its faster but it pretty much is an upgraded 3g like it not always works. It sometimes drops. Data bills increase. Idk man i just dont really care for it. And yeah battery life decreases tremendously but once people are able to flash stuff for it it will improve. I feel like 4g has alot of improvement to do not gonna lie
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cant lie about lots of that. 4g is a great technology, its the carriers that arent using it to its full potential. If you look at the actual 4g capable speeds and the speeds the carriers are letting us have, you will be even more disappointed lol.
The battery sucking isses will hopefully be obsolete once carriers get more heavily engaged in research using fuel cells.
Everyone says the Droid 4 is what the Droid 3 should have been.
For my part, yeah, it kind of gets on my nerves, but not too much. 1G of RAM would be nice, but I rarely run out with 512MB. I don't stream multimedia, so 3g is fast enough for me.
And the price was nice, $150 with a data plan. So I have no complaints.
As things stand now, the Droid 4 will probably be my next phone in a year or or so.
jarzy00 said:
I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
I didn't know about that. Yeah, that's pretty sexy. It's annoying when I get/make a lot of calls and my IRC session constantly drops.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
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Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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Dri94 said:
i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Battery life is not the only problem. I bought a Bionic in early October but had regular issues with random data drops - so that I had no LTE, 3G or 1X - in area where I know there is strong and solid Verizon 3G. There was also a nationwide, 24 hour data outage when I was ten days in. I exchanged the Bionic for the D3 because it was the best 3G phone on Verizon.
Since then there have been two more nationwide LTE outages (which also takes out 3G for the LTE phone, but not for 3G phones), and the Bionic forums are filled with people still complaining about random data drops. (Apparently this is fixed with an LTE SIM swap, but who has time to keep going in to Verizon for a new SIM?) Meanwhile, my D3 has been a solid, solid, solid data device every since I got it in mid-October.
LTE is still not mature and I think I'll be happier locked in to a solid 3G phone like the D3 rather than an immature LTE phone (because surely the hardware and network will get better in the next year or so) for the next 20 or so months. I would be happier if the D3 had been 1 GB RAM, but I don't feel it's that big a deal. I can tell you that it's frustrating when you need data access somewhere and find that the phone isn't getting data where you know that it should be.
If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity. That said, I like having a removal battery. I like that I have the choice to buy the extended. I think Droid 4 will be a bust tbqh. More memory would be nice but with Dpwhitty11's ROM, I don't have a need for it.
I don't honestly care. Hash has the ICS ROM coming along well and when it has the camera to me it will be perfectly stable for an Alpha. I am glad that it works and yeah 4G would be nice but I don't care honestly.
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I do believe that someone is working on a ics rom for the RAZR. so assuming that the 2 phones will be comparable it should be relatively easy for someone to port it over to the droid 4 "ASSUMING" they are going to be similar.
Razr will get official ICS support, not sure why anyone would work on it on their own. It would merely be a waste of their time.
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If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity.
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3G connectivity is still affected by LTE outages on LTE phones. If LTE is down (as I believe it was again toady), 3G almost always is as well, though it is not for 3G-only phones. I also had as many random data drops with CDMA only mode as I did with LTE/CDMA on the Bionic.

Sprint gets the Droid 4 variant, the Photon Q, with upgrades

http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones
At first glance, I thought this was a Droid 4. But then I saw that Moto took off the capacitive buttons on the bottom of the front of the phone. The Photon Q gets an upgraded 1.5gz dual core processor, and the display apparently has ColorBoost technology (resolution is the same, however).
I always wondered what Moto would do as a one-up on the droid 4. Looks like we have an answer
Motorola has stated that it'll have an unlockable bootloader. Also i think someone said that it has an s4, srsly the only real drawback so far to this phone is Sprint and that qhd display. Still very nice though
* raises fist * Damn you, Motorola! I just got the Droid 4!
* settles down * I still prefer a menu button though
* enables puppy-eyes * Please release an unlocked version in Europe?
I think the SIM card of the photon Q is not removable, so don't worry about getting it.
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If it'll be non-removable SIM card, it's dead phone
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I think the SIM card of the photon Q is not removable, so don't worry about getting it.
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It sure is not removable. I hope this is not going to be a new trend. Does not bode well for the Droid 5 on Verizon whenever it will be out.
From the Spec sheets:
Frequency: LTE, CDMA 800/1900 EVDO Rev A, World Phone - GSM 850/1900/1800/900, UMTS 850/1900/2100 (SIM is embedded in the phone, GSM SIM is locked and not removable)
hey all i care about is the fact that they will let you unlock the bootloader, they better do it for the Droid 4 and RAZR too!
Fat chance of that. Verizon thinks that rooted phones can impair the quality of the service they provide. /:
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Fat chance of that. Verizon thinks that rooted phones can impair the quality of the service they provide. /:
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**** Verizon, all they do is pack their phones with bull**** bloatware, delay OTAs by months, overprice, and all that. the only good thing they've ever done for me is not get rid of my unlimited data plan yet. ....yet.... *knocks on wood*
@sjaakbaanan i had the same reaction when reading OP
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@sjaakbaanan i had the same reaction when reading OP
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Haha, good to see I'm not the only one!
I'm still keeping my hopes up that one day they'll release this or a newer QWERTY over here too, with unlocked SIM. If not this phone, then the next.. and I'll buy it right away!
Maybe we should start some kind of internet petition to bring Motorola QWERTY phones than Europe and see if more than 5 people sign it
Didn't Samsung succumb to internet users when it offered a "developer version" (unlocked bootloader) of the GS3 on verizon (for way more money, of course)? If I'm correct, then it can be done
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Didn't Samsung succumb to internet users when it offered a "developer version" (unlocked bootloader) of the GS3 on verizon (for way more money, of course)? If I'm correct, then it can be done
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Yes, and they offered it for 600 USD I believe, which is actually still cheaper than the S3's unsubsidized price over here. So I'm already taking into account that I need to spend that amount of money, as long as they give me the chance
But I think more people want an unlocked S3 (which already existed for Europe anyway) than an unlocked Photon Q, so the power of the internet may be smaller here. Ah well, if I get data to work, I'm fully happy with my Droid 4!
No microSD cards, non-removable batteries and now embedded SIM cards. Are we noticing a trend yet?
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This one takes a microsd, but yeah there's definitely a trend...
my guess is the trend is actually carriers trying to hold on to the old way of doing things. they don't like device hopping and by forcing you to buy a new phone, they are able to bring in additional revenue.
I hate how we're basically the only market that's this way. meanwhile the rest of the world is "free to roam" and prices remain competitive.
Me too
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my guess is the trend is actually carriers trying to hold on to the old way of doing things. they don't like device hopping and by forcing you to buy a new phone, they are able to bring in additional revenue.
I hate how we're basically the only market that's this way. meanwhile the rest of the world is "free to roam" and prices remain competitive.
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I hate how the phones seem to be built to break after 2 years. My mom got a phone 13 years ago that is still kicking..its even been dropped in a drink cup....6 years after the cup incident the pixels in the display are finally going out. She loves that thing and is very upset that she has to get a new phone, I am very surprised it's still working. She's even using the original battery! As for me, I love the keyboard on my D4, and now that I have my much-beloved FM radio on it, I probably won't upgrade again, it's just too expensive to. I will just surf ebay and get other D4s. :silly: Anyone else notice that as Verizon gets bigger, the more expensive, dumber and ruder they become? I wish we had more competition.
I have noticed that trend too, and I don't like it. If they wanted to keep things like they were, they would still be making indestructible bricks like what my mom is using. I like the thinner phones, yet I want to be able to rip out the battery if I get frustrated, and I hate needing a SIM card
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I hate how the phones seem to be built to break after 2 years. My mom got a phone 13 years ago that is still kicking..its even been dropped in a drink cup....6 years after the cup incident the pixels in the display are finally going out. She loves that thing and is very upset that she has to get a new phone, I am very surprised it's still working. She's even using the original battery! As for me, I love the keyboard on my D4, and now that I have my much-beloved FM radio on it, I probably won't upgrade again, it's just too expensive to. I will just surf ebay and get other D4s. :silly: Anyone else notice that as Verizon gets bigger, the more expensive, dumber and ruder they become? I wish we had more competition.
I have noticed that trend too, and I don't like it. If they wanted to keep things like they were, they would still be making indestructible bricks like what my mom is using. I like the thinner phones, yet I want to be able to rip out the battery if I get frustrated, and I hate needing a SIM card
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+10
I have been trying to point this out to eveyone I work with especially with all of the HTC devices every time a new ver of the evo is coming out all of sudden the old ver starts to fall apart physically and software !! coincident? i dont think so!!!
I do like my D4. Its been the first DROID phone I've been happy with since the 1. Some other slider is going to have to have some prett decent features to get me to switch. Like a better screen and battery life that lasts days.
What should I do now?
Am one of those who'll want a physical keyboard on Android for sure.
Last year waited so much for Droid 3, but bad reviews didn't let me go for it. Early this year got Xperia Pro, which was working very much fine, and then few weeks ago, STOLEN.
Now on a prowl for another Android + keyboard handset. Found Droid 4, but thanks to GSM radio still off (am from India and on GSM) have been more than eagerly waiting for ICS on Droid 4. Now that it is just rolling out, come across Photon Q.
Very much confused which one to go for, Droid 4 or Photon Q?
# Droid 4 has higher battery life among the two (of the data in hand at present), with ICS so late, Jelly Bean would be light years away.
# Photon Q will launch with ICS, so have a chance for Jelly Bean. But battery life doesn't look promising (reviews after the launch will give exact idea). Apart from that, Photon Q looks better with better processor and bigger screen.
Please advice which one should I really go with.
Thanks!

N4 vs droid DNA?

So after FINALLY getting my order for a N4 in, I check facebook and see that HTC announced the droid DNA... that is also packing a quadcore, and a 1080p display....
If you don't need tons of development I would get the Droid DNA.
If there was an intl' version of it, I was getting it because: intl' version will get tons of development, I love the bigger screen (5" is perfect for me!) and it's high quality (HTC's screens from the last year are great + 1080P res!!) and I love it's design
But as there is no intl' version, I'm getting the Nexus 4.
At least 600 of contract, Verizon, cdma. No regrets on the N4.
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i've used nothing but HTC devices for the past forever
but theyve become too carrier restricted this year (no AWS/2100 one x? your flagship? really?)
DNA is a cool device, nice specs.. but only for verizon cdma..
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i've used nothing but HTC devices for the past forever
but theyve become too carrier restricted this year (no AWS/2100 one x? your flagship? really?)
DNA is a cool device, nice specs.. but only for verizon cdma..
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Thats stupid as hell! I'm T-Mobile. Glad I got the N4 =]
Defiantly no buyers remorse here about it.
The thing about HTC that will keep me from them is that they always, and I mean ALWAYS, skimp on the battery and put in the smallest one possible, even if it means the battery life sucks.
No Micro SD and only 16gb...
As useless as the Nexus 4.
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Thats stupid as hell! I'm T-Mobile. Glad I got the N4 =]
Defiantly no buyers remorse here about it.
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at&t/rogers might get it
but t-mobile/wind/mobilicity get dooped by HTC again
I was having similar thoughts, but for me what it came down to was dev support, updates, and GSM support vs. a slightly larger, better screen.
On a side note, I'm curious to see how the battery holds up. It's pretty small (2020 IIRC), and a lot of people have been HIGHLY skeptical of its ability to keep the phone powered, especially with LTE and a 1080p 5" screen.
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I was having similar thoughts, but for me what it came down to was dev support, updates, and GSM support vs. a slightly larger, better screen.
On a side note, I'm curious to see how the battery holds up. It's pretty small (2020 IIRC), and a lot of people have been HIGHLY skeptical of its ability to keep the phone powered, especially with LTE and a 1080p 5" screen.
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maybe well see the DNA+ soon
itll probably still be with carrier restrictions

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