[Q] Triple boot? - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

is there any possible way to do this. obviously getting rid of webOS is a silly thing to think but i have installed arch on my touchpad but so badly want android as well.
i really wish webOS had a more developed app market

I dont see the problem in here?
I got webOS, cm7 alpha and archarm on my 32GB TP.
WebOS will definately get kicked if there is a safe way. cm7 will be exchanged with cm9 and i would prefer ubuntu with unity on the TP

k1l said:
I dont see the problem in here?
I got webOS, cm7 alpha and archarm on my 32GB TP.
WebOS will definately get kicked if there is a safe way. cm7 will be exchanged with cm9 and i would prefer ubuntu with unity on the TP
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Is there a how-to out there? I see a way to get a CLI Ubuntu to boot inside of WebOS and then LXDE X on top of that but I haven't see a way to boot in to linux natively. I have seen posts talking about Moboot being worked on to accommodate. Have I missed or just not looked hard enough? I'd like to get a native Linux installation going.
Edit: May have misread your post. If you are running a chroot jail that's cool. Just not something I'm really interested in. I'm with the OP. I'd prefer an actual triple boot from shutdown.

archlinux is not a chroot....
just look at the thread and install it.
you'll be running all 3 OSes in no time.
You just have to be able to read and follow directions.
that is all.

I asked because I had webos and arch running but when trying to run cm7 it just errored out. I'm obviously thinking there was some conflict with partitions?
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jonjon68 said:
Is there a how-to out there? I see a way to get a CLI Ubuntu to boot inside of WebOS and then LXDE X on top of that but I haven't see a way to boot in to linux natively. I have seen posts talking about Moboot being worked on to accommodate. Have I missed or just not looked hard enough? I'd like to get a native Linux installation going.
Edit: May have misread your post. If you are running a chroot jail that's cool. Just not something I'm really interested in. I'm with the OP. I'd prefer an actual triple boot from shutdown.
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just take a look at the threads here in this subforum. there is chroot ubuntu and a native ubuntu. im not running a chroot arch. its a native arch which i select at start in moboot.
and really really read the instructions carefully. its no howto for noobs with 10sec. patience.
@ sissons87. the cm7 installer is programmed to find a TP with just webos and then move the partitions. that is the problem i think.

k1l said:
@ sissons87. the cm7 installer is programmed to find a TP with just webos and then move the partitions. that is the problem i think.
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thanks for the help, i did think that but wasnt to sure. i know have take arch off the TP now and running webos and CM7. might now be able to resize the FAT partition to install arch

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[Q] Installing Ubuntu chroot on touchpad Android

Hello,
I'm trying to install ubuntu chroot on my touchpad from android (I know it's possible from webos).
Has anyone managed to do it ?
I followed the tutorial here :
androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android
However, it's not working. It's seems touchpad doesn't support loop devices.
I was able to get it working fine but honestly its not worth the space. its cool to show people but trust me you wont ever really use it. everythng worked fine i just mounted the partiton manually and booted up from xterm inside webos. the metadoctor process and repartitioning is a pain in the ass too. i just stick with droid and webos. webos internals has a fine tut on how to get it working i would post the link but i cant until after 10 posts. but im sure you can find it if not pm me.

[Q] Anybody up for porting Ubuntu?

Since we got a x86 cpu i want to use ubuntu on it, as im from germany i still dont have my I but has anybody tried linux on android?
Adam Outler mentioned something that this would not work...
Btw can somebody tell me what the kernel version is..?
Sorry mods for (possibly) posting in the wrong section :/
//Robert
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Robbilie said:
Since we got a x86 cpu i want to use ubuntu on it, as im from germany i still dont have my I but has anybody tried linux on android?
Adam Outler mentioned something that this would not work...
Btw can somebody tell me what the kernel version is..?
Sorry mods for (possibly) posting in the wrong section :/
//Robert
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
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Kernel version is 3.0.8.
If you can install linux distros on the backend of rooted ARM devices it should make sense we could do the same....maybe
Ubuntu on a RAZR I ? Linux x86 apps + windows apps with wine without even recompile? I think this devece needs some love. It can be the next HTC HD2 for shure.
I dont understand the htc comparison
But i have your ideas about no need to recompile and wine in mind too...
But i understand adam because linux for android is compiled for arm achitecture so a usual desktop image would make more sense...
Why is the kernel version so low?!
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What we need to do
I have a friend with this device, after rooting he reports there is no chroot command from terminal. If so we must:
Compile busybox (with more extensions) for x86 and install it alongside root (or after root)
Make a mountable image from an ubuntu clean install and mount it (probably also needs busybox)
chroot into this mounted image
run a vnc X server on a framebuffer
vnc from android
This is how it is done on other android devices, will attempt to compile and try these instructions out this weekend when I meet him but booting native ubuntu is a much better idea (even better if we can make it receive calls ).
And for what Windows on 4,3 inches display? It dont have hdmi.
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The micro usb is acting like hdmi with adapter...
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Go look up the HTC HD2. It can run Windows Phone 7 and Android dual-booted (with Linux from SDCard), and was originally the last, albeit most powerful, Windows Mobile 6 phone ever made.
Even though it is four years old, there is a massive and vibrant dev community behind it, making it reach the front page of XDA forums.
However, even the venerable HD2 is getting old, with 1GHz processor and half a gig of RAM that was top-of-the-line years ago, and people have looked in vain for some kind of successor. Hopefully, the Razr I, with an unlockable bootloader and Intel processor, will be the one. But that remains for us to do.
pablocrossa said:
I have a friend with this device, after rooting he reports there is no chroot command from terminal. If so we must:
Compile busybox (with more extensions) for x86 and install it alongside root (or after root)
Make a mountable image from an ubuntu clean install and mount it (probably also needs busybox)
chroot into this mounted image
run a vnc X server on a framebuffer
vnc from android
This is how it is done on other android devices, will attempt to compile and try these instructions out this weekend when I meet him but booting native ubuntu is a much better idea (even better if we can make it receive calls ).
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So I tried this out and there is a chroot-compatible busybox after rooting ("busybox chroot" needs to be called as opposed to "chroot" as there is no properly made link), so anyone with this phone can try (using a PC) install Ubuntu without the grub bootloader using manual partitioning on a single ext3 (I am not sure if ICS supports ext4) partition on a microsd, put into your phone, use a root terminal, mount it, mount the adequate dev, dev/pts, proc and sys partitions and chroot right in. You then might want to install a VNC server in Ubuntu to be able to create a VNC X session in a framebuffer and a VNC client on the android side to VNC into localhost (127.0.0.1), but that should work, I didn't have time to try it this weekend If someone gets stuck post and let us see what happens I cannot wait to see if wine can run desktop Spotify with sound, excited a little hehe.
EDIT: So to make this more understandable you must:
Install Ubuntu (using your computer) to a MicroSD, specifying partitions manually and choosing only a single ext3. Right before clicking install there is a button with something along the lines of "Advanced options", disable the install the bootloader (grub) option.
Insert the MicroSD into the phone and open a root terminal
I don't use Android, maybe it automounts in /media/sdcard or /sdcard, if not you will have to find the device and partition name (probably /dev/mmcblk0p1 or /dev/sdb1) and issue "mount /dev/DEVICEPARTITION /media/sdcard"
mount -t proc proc /media/sdcard/proc
mount -o bind /dev/ /media/sdcard/dev/
mount -t devpts devpts /media/sdcard/dev/pts
busybox chroot /media/sdcard /bin/bash
Now a shell from Ubuntu should open. apt-get update && apt-get install vncserver (maybe the DNS settings must be set in /etc/resolv.conf, not yet sure)
vncserver (or start vncserver, something along those lines)
Now from Android install a VNC viewer and vnc into 127.0.0.1 (or localhost)
That should do it, again if you get stuck post here
i had htc hd2, the most amazing phone in the world. I wanna buy the rarz i for the x86 processor in it. But cpu power without community and developers is nothing :|
Sorry for my bad english.
Yesterday we tried something:
We used dd to put an arch linux image on a micro sd card...
Though my laptop wasnt even able to boot from any sd card, this should work on our phone...
but how to make it boot from the sd card? xD
btw you might have noticed, this will make only linux boot, not android, we dont chroot, may somebody build a simple ubuntu img for complete linux installer?
//Robert
so right now i am trying to chroot into an img file, mounting it and then chrooting it but all i get is:
chroot: can't execute '/system/bin/sh': No such file or directory
whats wrong?
Robbilie said:
The micro usb is acting like hdmi with adapter...
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Razr i MHL capable???
as far as i know, sadly not no
Ok so finally I got Ubuntu Quetzal running with chroot, still some problems (missing randr extension in vnc) but ill get over this
Hey,
great work. :good:
Good to see there are people with the same ideas. I´ve searched a lot for this thread.
I will also try to get this device for the same reasons when it´s cheaper. Has anybody tried to get Plasma Active or Tizen to run?
I think Active should now be possible through kubuntu Active?
Cheers!
Hi all
At first you can try a application from play store called Linux installer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Otherwise you can wait some weeks for an nexus 7 Ubuntu port witch looks really interesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957561
Ahhh maybe have a look at the andrinux project here at xda
[/COLOR]Here's the andrinux link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387105
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Robbilie said:
Ok so finally I got Ubuntu Quetzal running with chroot, still some problems (missing randr extension in vnc) but ill get over this
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thanks for your post on preparing an arch image (I don't have permision to post in devel forum, maybe because I'm a newbie ), It worked well for me although I had to adjust some things such as path and pts mount
I now have a gcc toolchain and a latex distrib on my phone I had never used arch, found it very good
I've also tried some window managers ... the one I find best for the moment is enlightenment in the touchscreen mode, awesome works great as well.
I would also suggest to use Hacker's keyboard instead of stock android, it is a complete keyboard, very usefull when dealing with terminals ... as for VNC viewer, one should recompile android-vnc-viewer with the patches given in Issues 238 and 239 (can't post links either), it's a lot better
I've had a lot of fun, thanks
First, Complete Linux Installer doesnt work because its images are compiled for arm not x86 (i tried )
Secondly, I did a tutorial here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966984
the nexus 7 stuff is interesting and we consider making flashable fastboot for the razr i since we dont have cwm or such you know
i am talking to jordan keyes who recently owned a nexus 7 who probably will try out the ubu stuff and i might get some system info
but i would really prefer a dual boot, capable of booting from sd...
I came across this site today:
http://www.pvsm.ru/wine/10369
translated here
I don't know if this could possibly help you any further but I thought that I might as well post it.

Q: Valid link to UbuntuTouchPadRootfs.tar?

Hi All,
I'm trying to get Ubuntu installed on my Touchpad... with lots of problems... (anyway, for now most are fixed...)
However, does anyone have a working link for TouchPadBuntuRootfs.tar.gz version: 12.04 LTS edition...??
- all links I found so far are dead!!
Ubuntu 12.10 Final = Screen Corruption, graphics messed up.
Ubuntu 13.04 Final = Does not install, and need to get rid of E17 and restore normal desktop
Ubuntu 12.04 = Cannot find this addition anyone, and Ive been trying...
Many thanks, Lister
I'm downloading mine from here.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4WUjKii92l2bDRlQ0NTbTZBemM/preview?pli=1 but haven't tried it in the process of installing it.
Took me awhile I had android on my tp so I ran acme uninstaller to do a fresh start because for some reason my WiFi is not working on android.
When I did that it messed up my whole TP then I had to follow directions to factory reset it took me about an hour so now I'm downloading the files to try to run Ubuntu
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Hi Hovax615,
Thanks for the link, but I am after the specific 12.04 LTS edition of that file...
As I have tried 12.10 but that appears to have limited driver support, and both the graphics display drivers are messed up, plus it wont let me join WiFi... Says I do not have permission, even though I'm an Admin user...
And 13.04 version does not install via the method I mentioned in the other post. It says it's installed, but ends up in a Boot-Loop (only in Ubuntu, all other OS's are fine...).
So if anyone has a link to the 12.04 / LTS Edition that would be most welcomed, as all links to that file seem to be dead at the moment...??
Yeah, restoring a Touchpad can be scary times... My first go at that, and I thought my Tablet had proper died... as even WebOS Doctor didnt want to know it... But thankfully, its alive and well... And now I know how to fix that again easily, its not so scary now... lol
Many thanks, Lister
[email protected] said:
I'm downloading mine from here.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4WUjKii92l2bDRlQ0NTbTZBemM/preview?pli=1 but haven't tried it in the process of installing it.
Took me awhile I had android on my tp so I ran acme uninstaller to do a fresh start because for some reason my WiFi is not working on android.
When I did that it messed up my whole TP then I had to follow directions to factory reset it took me about an hour so now I'm downloading the files to try to run Ubuntu
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Yeah I got it to run pretty easily via smackme2. From clean install all you have to do is make a folder “sminstall" put the files in it should be
UImage,
the kexec which on Ubuntu 13.04 it comes with it already.
Moboot
You have to have the smackme2 in the folder that you have acmeinstaller in when you loaded android. I have windows so mine would be in
Program files/palm, in
Okay so let me run it down for you.
Download the files you need it should be 4 files total depending if your going to run the 12.04 which should be 4
UIMAGE SMACKME2
KEXEC.TAR(OR WHATEVER IT IS)
MOBOOT
UBUNTU
MAKE “SMINSTALL" FOLDER IN TOUCHPAD COPY KEXEC.TAR, MOBOOT, UBUNTU TO SMINSTALL FOLDER.
THAN YOU WANT TO PUT THE UIMAGE SMACKME2 IN THE PALM, INC FOLDER.
NOW TO GET THE PALM, INC FOLDER YOU'LL HAVE TO DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL THE NOVACOM DRIVER. WHICH I ASSUME YOU ALREADY DO.
UNMOUNT YOUR TP RESTART IT AND PUT IT INTO RECOVER (WHEN RESTARTED HOLD UP VOLUME)
NEXT YOU WANT TO OPEN UP “FIND" OR “SEARCH" ON YOUR LAPTOP OR COMPUTER AND OPEN EITHER CMD OR COMMAND PROMPT.
NEXT AS FOLLOWS FOR COMMAND PROMPT.
CD /PROGRAM FILES/PALM, INC
novacom boot mem:// < uImage.SmackMe2
You can copy and paste that last one.
After that it should show the two penguins and start extracting.
It'll reboot the boot into kexec then toggle with volume button to Ubuntu and to select it press/hold the power button at the top.
I'm going to try to find Ubuntu 12.04 for you but its 1am here in California and I'm about to go to bed.
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[GUIDE] Install Ubuntu 13.04 with Wubi!

Don't think I'm crazy, because I DID manage to do it. Everyone says that Wubi isn't available for an installation of 13.04, but really it is. Not sure if this is official, but here goes:
Download an Ubuntu ISO disk image, and extract the contents using an archive manager.
There should be a "wubi.exe" in the root of the disk image contents. Run the program, and configure regular Wubi settings as per normal. Everything should install well.
Once it's done, it'll say you should reboot now or you can reboot later. Your PC will automatically boot into Ubuntu once you reboot.
Ubuntu will install itself alongside Windows (it should actually just install in a folder called ''ubuntu'' on the root of your Windows hard drive) without any danger of ruining your precious data.
TL;DR: Extract wubi.exe from an Ubuntu 13.04 image.
Congratulations!
For some real fun, you should try installing it as a stand-alone OS on a different disk/partition and customize your own boot menu!
Either way, enjoy your Ubuntu experience...
zyrzox said:
Congratulations!
For some real fun, you should try installing it as a stand-alone OS on a different disk/partition and customize your own boot menu!
Either way, enjoy your Ubuntu experience...
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I've tried that before, but I messed up my bootloader. I'd much rather use Wubi as it is safer, and easier to remove. Their are also some hacks to increase the Wubi disk size (even more than 30 GB). I think that newbies to Ubuntu would much prefer trying out Ubuntu with Wubi, so please refrain from your harsh sarcastic remarks. This thread, after all, is just to show that there is Wubi for Ubuntu 13.04 (and possibly for newer or upcoming versions).
Codename13 said:
I've tried that before, but I messed up my bootloader. I'd much rather use Wubi as it is safer, and easier to remove. Their are also some hacks to increase the Wubi disk size (even more than 30 GB). I think that newbies to Ubuntu would much prefer trying out Ubuntu with Wubi, so please refrain from your harsh sarcastic remarks. This thread, after all, is just to show that there is Wubi for Ubuntu 13.04 (and possibly for newer or upcoming versions).
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I'm saddened that my comments were interpreted as being harsh and sarcastic. I was merely encouraging you to further broaden your technical horizons by installing Ubuntu utilizing a more advanced technique, which is [also] quite gratifying once you get it working. I'm a big fan of Ubuntu and have it installed on all of my machines for when I get the urge to tinker.
I know the pain of botching your bootloader, I've done that myself more times than I can remember over the years and yes, it definitely sucks! Now I use NeoSmart's EasyBCD to customize my boot menu and I haven't had any problems for a very long time.
if anyone has experienced the same thing with me? often when I shutdown ubuntu 13:04 .. seemed very long, in fact I've been waiting about 30 minutes .. but .. still can not ... I was forced to shut down leptop hard reset. I know it can cause damage to the hardisk
indorocker said:
if anyone has experienced the same thing with me? often when I shutdown ubuntu 13:04 .. seemed very long, in fact I've been waiting about 30 minutes .. but .. still can not ... I was forced to shut down leptop hard reset. I know it can cause damage to the hardisk
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Maybe close all active programs before shutting down?
get 10
Codename13 said:
Maybe close all active programs before shutting down?
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Still close before shutdown.. but this problem still come to me
As that this is unrelated to mobile devices OT is a more appropriate section for this thread

[Q] Touchpad won't turn on

I was resizing the partitions for the 4.4.2 install following Roland's youtube instructions. I placed the zip package in the cminstall folder and than ran the installcm5 bat file and let the tp do it's thing but it farted out after a few minutes and was non responsive. Now it won't even turn on to be recognized by WebOS Doctor. Is TPDebrick my only option and if so, is there a noob friendly run through of how to use it in windows?
X-Nemesis said:
I was resizing the partitions for the 4.4.2 install following Roland's youtube instructions. I placed the zip package in the cminstall folder and than ran the installcm5 bat file and let the tp do it's thing but it farted out after a few minutes and was non responsive. Now it won't even turn on to be recognized by WebOS Doctor. Is TPDebrick my only option and if so, is there a noob friendly run through of how to use it in windows?
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TPDebrick requires Ubuntu. It's unlikely your pad is completely fried though. TPDebrick works miracles.
So if I don't have access to an Ubuntu machine than it's pretty much bricked
You can download the version of Ubuntu required for free, download software that turns it into a Live USB (runs off a jump drive) version for free, and run Ubuntu and TPDebrick for free. The only roadblock is your own time and ability to read/comprehend the instructions. It really comes down to whether or not you want to fix it.
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Live CD
X-Nemesis said:
So if I don't have access to an Ubuntu machine than it's pretty much bricked
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You can download Ubuntu 12.04 and burn a CD/DVD and run it without installing Ubuntu.
Here is a link with instructions for TBDebrick: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38786-tpdebrick-v004/
Also, if you are unfamiliar with Linux and Ubuntu in particular, the Ubuntu forums are willing to help.

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