Another S2 or Note? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone,
I will be upgrading in late Feb. The options are: another s2 or Note.
Love my s2 (rooted with Illusion-xT v1.4.2 - XWKL1 2.3.6) , played a bit with Note and its size is not a problem for me.
I really have no time to go through the forum to find my answers.
I'd like to know:
- the battery life compared to s2
- does Note do everything that s2 does?
- call recording quality pls, does anyone use Total Recall?
- application compatibility with s2
- overall performance compared to s2
- your experience if you are owning both s2 and Note
- TV out - like in s2?
Thanks a lot guys!

qwerty1q said:
- the battery life compared to s2
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About roughly the same, the 250mAH is to feed the huge screen. I get the same video playback time of 9hrs on the S2 and on the Note. Gaming might suffer since it needs to compute for more pixels.
qwerty1q said:
- application compatibility with s2
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No issues, Andriod apps mostly scale to the screen and if they dont developers fix then quite fast.
qwerty1q said:
- does Note do everything that s2 does?
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The Galaxy Note is different device but is an upgrade for the Galaxy S2 in a way.
qwerty1q said:
- overall performance compared to s2
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Some say the note lags/UI stutters more than the Galaxy S2.. this is only true when you use the pinch to view the home screen or the app drawer which is a TW issue, anything other than that the Note does things FASTER than the S2 which is expected as it is a better device even under the hood.
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- your experience if you are owning both s2 and Note
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I find it difficult to now use a phone with anything less than 5.3" of a screen, this is one major drawback once you get attached to the Galaxy note.
Altho both phones are not with out its issues, faces similar issues on both ends though
You havent asked this but the GPS on the Gnote is amazing, you can even get a signal lock indoors all of this due to the GLONASS that it has, but its not that accurate as compared to dedicated GPS devices yet.

Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?

Howdy.
Typed up a quick compairison between the two if you wanna take a moment to read it here.
One thing that I didn't mention in that post is TV out, and it's exactly the same as you would do so on a GSII; plug in an MHL adapter.
I personally haven't used GPS on the phone enough to count, but everyone else who has, has said it's the best they've used thus far. Much better than a GSII
If you go for it, you'll love it.
And hey! If you're not satisfied with it, go ahead and sell it and use those funds for either a new GSII or, when the time comes, put it towards it's successor.
But I doubt you'll want to once you get your hands on this baby

qwerty1q said:
Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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I've never used TV out on the S2 but I assume they will be exactly the same.
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qwerty1q said:
Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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I've never used TV out on the S2 but I assume they will be exactly the same.
DarkShot666
Just took a quick peek at your post and I noticed you mention at 25% there is no issue viewing it under direct sunlight? I even have issues with the S2 or the note at 100% brightness under direct sunlight well ofcourse this varies how bright the sun is shining though.

EarlZ said:
DarkShot666
Just took a quick peek at your post and I noticed you mention at 25% there is no issue viewing it under direct sunlight? I even have issues with the S2 or the note at 100% brightness under direct sunlight well ofcourse this varies how bright the sun is shining though.
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I've personally never noticed any issues. It could very well be that any light that I was under wasn't 100% dead on, but my Note screen is always one of two brightness levels: 25% and 0%. I've never had a need to crank it any more.

Are you a big guy? (ie 6" + ?)
Then get the Note.

qwerty1q said:
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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Used on both. More or less the same, yes.
For both devices, however, the system UI outputs at native resolution. So when you're web browsing or just going through menus and such, the S2 is at 800x480, the Note is 1280x800; noticeable difference.
I will say though, that the Note does seem to slow down quite a bit when hooked up to the TV for moving about the UI or playing games and such (mainly because, not only does it have to render 3x as many pixels already, but now it's doing it twice over(!!!), it's quite a burden, and it shows.
That said, it's still (mostly) functional, and when using it for video output (even full 1080p), it is flawless there.
P.S. I'm selling my international GS2 if you're interested. Send me a PM

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Galaxy tab 8.9 vs 7 plus

Sorry guys for using this section but it is the only one for the 8.9
I would like to buy one tablet but I'm wavering between the 8.9 and the new 7 plus
the 8.9 is cheaper but the 7 plus can make phone call and got a microsd slot
help me to make this choice
thanks
For what will the tablet be used? Will you still carry a separate phone?
usually I carry another phone but in summer a bring on beach just the galaxy tab 7
If you plan using it as an extension then I think you already have made your mind.
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+1 i will go for 8.9 for it bigger screen
I use my Nokia n9 as a phone, my MacBook air as a laptop, my tab 8.9 as a reference material viewer. I think I wouldn't be happy with a 7" screen, my physics books won't view well.
Then again I can't tell until I try it :-D
make phone call is a good features sd the sd slot
I think I will take the 7 plus (7.7 would be perfect but probably will be out on 2012)
I had a 10.1, but sold it for a 7.0 plus, and highly recommend it. The Exynos is screaming fast compared to the Tegra 2. This is especially obvious while playing video.
Video is truly night and day, I can't believe how lousy the Tegra is for that. The 7+ will play any and all video I threw at it. But dang, the size of the 8.9 is perfect. Hopefully Samsung will give it the upgrade and the best of both worlds.
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Video is truly night and day, I can't believe how lousy the Tegra is for that. The 7+ will play any and all video I threw at it. But dang, the size of the 8.9 is perfect. Hopefully Samsung will give it the upgrade and the best of both worlds.
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I agree on all counts. That would be the perfect tablet.
bill.allrobots.org said:
I had a 10.1, but sold it for a 7.0 plus, and highly recommend it. The Exynos is screaming fast compared to the Tegra 2. This is especially obvious while playing video.
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
Palary said:
Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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I am a happy owner of an unrooted 7+ and I have yet to run into a 720p video in any codec or bitrate that the little bastard could not run perfectly smooth. I have no RMVB videos but I can't imagine it will have huge issues but if you send me a link for such a video then I will be happy to test it out for you.
As for the topic of the thread:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty. It is a horrid and terrible product which should never have been allowed to be used as the reference chip for Honeycomb. For this reason I went with the 7+. If anyone thinks everyone with a 10.1 is cheerful with a Tegra 2 running then you have not watched the threads prior to the nation wide USA release of the 10.1. Even after the 10.1v was confirmed as using the Tegra 2 we still held out a glimmer of hope for the Exynos 4210 and a MicroSD slot. The 7+ has both of these and I even found it at 350$ with 3.5% sales tax at Microcenter.
koreanschoolkid said:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty.
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Does this issue only happen during video playback or any graphics in general? I thought Tegra 2 is supposed to be very good! :|
I do notice some lag even when using the homescreen in 10.1, din test 7+ enough to tell, after I have tested 10.1 and 8.9, the 7+ seems just too small! And I am worrying about the future support (ICS) for 7+ as it seems the odd tab with that resolution. As with Samsung products, the ones that gets updated are those that are popular, and looking at how thing goes, seems like 10.1/8.9 is (going to be) more popular.
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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I feel the exact same way about my (ex) NT. But the locked bootloader killed it for me, and I'm back to the search for the optimal tablet for me. How would you say the 7+'s screen compares to the NT? I really loved that I could sit outside and see everything perfectly on that screen. Would you say it's worth the extra cash and not waiting for the 7.7 (assuming the 7.7 isn't actually $700, as speculated)?
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I feel the exact same way about my (ex) NT. But the locked bootloader killed it for me, and I'm back to the search for the optimal tablet for me. How would you say the 7+'s screen compares to the NT? I really loved that I could sit outside and see everything perfectly on that screen. Would you say it's worth the extra cash and not waiting for the 7.7 (assuming the 7.7 isn't actually $700, as speculated)?
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I just returned my NT and picked up the 7+. No regrets at all! I was betting on the 7.7 not being out for a while and being too expensive. so I went ahead and took the plunge. If the 7.7 comes out soon and is reasonably priced, I'll throw the 7+ on eBay, and eat the difference.
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I just returned my NT and picked up the 7+. No regrets at all! I was betting on the 7.7 not being out for a while and being too expensive. so I went ahead and took the plunge. If the 7.7 comes out soon and is reasonably priced, I'll throw the 7+ on eBay, and eat the difference.
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Not to be annoying and reiterate my question, but how does the screen compare? More specifically, how does it look outdoors? I really want to buy a replacement tablet, but great visibility in all lighting conditions is a huge factor. Reviews that I've read so far haven't really addressed this, with even some mildly negative comments about the 7+ screen.
It's a gloss screen so I doubt it would be perfect outdoors but it's not horrible in my limited experience. It's a bit darker than the screen in the 8.9 or 10.1 but it doesn't have viewing angle problems it's still a Samsung screen. Just naturally a tad darker at default.
I used to own the 1st Galaxy TAB P1000; it has no problem handling *.MKV files even with size more than 2 GB. Likewise for the 8.9. But for RMVB files it is a challenge. I tried the same files on a IPAD2. It faces the same problem . There are jerkiness . Try to get the files from www.33md.com
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I am a happy owner of an unrooted 7+ and I have yet to run into a 720p video in any codec or bitrate that the little bastard could not run perfectly smooth. I have no RMVB videos but I can't imagine it will have huge issues but if you send me a link for such a video then I will be happy to test it out for you.
As for the topic of the thread:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty. It is a horrid and terrible product which should never have been allowed to be used as the reference chip for Honeycomb. For this reason I went with the 7+. If anyone thinks everyone with a 10.1 is cheerful with a Tegra 2 running then you have not watched the threads prior to the nation wide USA release of the 10.1. Even after the 10.1v was confirmed as using the Tegra 2 we still held out a glimmer of hope for the Exynos 4210 and a MicroSD slot. The 7+ has both of these and I even found it at 350$ with 3.5% sales tax at Microcenter.
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Using MOBOPLAYER, I don't find that the 8.9 is having problem handling most videos. I still do not understand why all of you are saying it can't play videos well?
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10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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RealPlayer formats? Seriously? I haven't had a RealPlayer video in years, so I have no idea.
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Palary said:
I used to own the 1st Galaxy TAB P1000; it has no problem handling *.MKV files even with size more than 2 GB. Likewise for the 8.9. But for RMVB files it is a challenge. I tried the same files on a IPAD2. It faces the same problem . There are jerkiness . Try to get the files from www.33md.com
Using MOBOPLAYER, I don't find that the 8.9 is having problem handling most videos. I still do not understand why all of you are saying it can't play videos well?
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Maybe your app is better, or maybe your videos are lower resolution. My 10.1 (with a handful of apps I tried) barfed on 1080p pretty hard.

Samsung galaxy nexus or Samsung galaxy s2

I know this is the samsung galaxy s2 section. But if you were offered a samsung galaxy nexus for your samsung galaxy s2 would you make the switch?
If no please explain
If yes please explain
Thanks
You will get bigger display and better updates. Depends on how long you got your s2, if you feel bored its not bad switch. Personally i would switch it.
Have a nice day!
Lacoste_ said:
You will get bigger display and better updates. Depends on how long you got your s2, if you feel bored its not bad switch. Personally i would switch it.
Have a nice day!
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Thanks for your input. But not having 8mega pixel, downgrade video quality, not having a expansion memory slot still tempting to switch?
I wouldn't switch... Like having an expansion card. Only positive of nexus over s2 is longer and faster updates of roms.
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rayoubi said:
Thanks for your input. But not having 8mega pixel, downgrade video quality, not having a expansion memory slot still tempting to switch?
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Personally, i like the design and i feel 32GB is enough memory. For the camera, you are right. Its just up to you, do you take pictures and videos often or no? You know the best for you here.
Obviously nexus have style, bigger display and higher pixel density, it's the google way.
But if you take in to consideration that:
- the usable screen it's almost the same becouse of the navigation bar in nexus case
- SGS2 has the better screen even at such lower res becouse Nexus use PenTile Matrix technology which it's a major downgrade (some colors have to be approximated by using adjacent pixels, and can cause colors that don’t read as true)
- you get 5MP insted of 8MP and you also pay more
- in SGS2 case you will get more fps in games and in User Interface becouse nexus gpu will have to process more information (720 x 1280 vs 480 x 800 in same amount of time; bouth gpu are similar at the same resolution), you must conclude that nexus looks nice and I9100 performe better.
For me performance, user experiece and image quality it's everything so I would take i9100.
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Obviously nexus have style, bigger display and higher pixel density, it's the google way.
But if you take in to consideration that:
- the usable screen it's almost the same becouse of the navigation bar in nexus case
- SGS2 has the better screen even at such lower res becouse Nexus use PenTile Matrix technology which it's a major downgrade (some colors have to be approximated by using adjacent pixels, and can cause colors that don’t read as true)
- you get 5MP insted of 8MP and you also pay more
- in SGS2 case you will get more fps in games and in User Interface becouse nexus gpu will have to process more information (720 x 1280 vs 480 x 800 in same amount of time; bouth gpu are similar at the same resolution), you must conclude that nexus looks nice and I9100 performe better.
For me performance, user experiece and image quality it's everything so I would take i9100.
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Very good statement, i have to agree with alot of that. however, you forgot to mention Samsung nexus NFC chip, panoramic camera, face unlock and android beam. They are new features that makes me love my galaxy nexus, not to mention if your into a curve design, its pretty sleek.
for me it was really tough, i went with the nexus although, i wish had a better camera, but 5 mega pixel on nexus is surprisingly not that bad, of course the galaxy s2 camera is better.
rayoubi said:
Very good statement, i have to agree with alot of that. however, you forgot to mention Samsung nexus NFC chip, panoramic camera, face unlock and android beam. They are new features that makes me love my galaxy nexus, not to mention if your into a curve design, its pretty sleek.
for me it was really tough, i went with the nexus although, i wish had a better camera, but 5 mega pixel on nexus is surprisingly not that bad, of course the galaxy s2 camera is better.
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panoramic camera, face unlock will be official available http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii_will_get_ics_on_march_10-news-3956.php
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panoramic camera, face unlock will be official available http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii_will_get_ics_on_march_10-news-3956.php
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Oh thats really nice for you galaxy s2 owners! but still no NFC or android beam. Hows the GPS on galaxy s2?
rayoubi said:
Oh thats really nice for you galaxy s2 owners! but still no NFC or android beam. Hows the GPS on galaxy s2?
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It's also mention in that articol something about having android beam (althougth i do not know what that meens)
I don't have an s2 to compare GPS signal
I have to agree with you, if you are a person who love stylish things Nexus it's a good looking beast, in daily use you would not notice a big diffrence in performance (I didn't know that you had already bought nexus)
Sorry for my bad english
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It's also mention in that articol something about having android beam (althougth i do not know what that meens)
I don't have an s2 to compare GPS signal
I have to agree with you, if you are a person who love stylish things Nexus it's a good looking beast, in daily use you would not notice a big diffrence in performance (I didn't know that you had already bought nexus)
Sorry for my bad english
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your English is pretty good :}
Well I would for the nexus, the design looks awesome <3
ItsmYarD said:
Well I would for the nexus, the design looks awesome <3
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Not going to lie the nexus design looks amazing. but i feel its a bit lagish. idk sometimes i think about buying galaxy s2 and returning my nexus. ;/
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I know this is the samsung galaxy s2 section.
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I thought this was the S1 section ;-)

Question about note camera please assist .

As you people know SGS2 has junkey camera module (which i haved) SCE which when recording have shutter lag and recording lag when focus ...
Quick video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV1Uh5Mjcdo
It can be reproduced @ night situations .
My questions is IS THIS PRESENT ON NOTE ?
Also to note not all sgs2 have this problem just those with SCE camera module ...
And this was major thing that made me sell my sgs2 , now im thinking to buy note ... And i fear again if i get this ****ty module again it would piss me off alot .
Thank you on answers and your time
ICS improves the camera. It makes it so much faster. If there is a problem like that in GB (not saying it has as I never faced any). It should be taken care of with an ICS rom
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You are recording in a dark place with low iso/high exposure value/ slow shutter speed/ high aperture value.
Increase iso may help
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No no no you all do not understand i guess note doesent have problem . Its much deeper **** that that trust me
donmarkon said:
No no no you all do not understand i guess note doesent have problem . Its much deeper **** that that trust me
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I am at the moment on nightly, and i have ben checking, no lags here.... also on gingerbread found no problems... you should try MIUI, maybe that would help, never experienced any problems with that, and i guess most smooth rom available.. (my opinion ) the Gingerbread version that is....
Good luck..
Just tell me does Note have this problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443658
Simple
donmarkon said:
Just tell me does Note have this problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443658
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Great Snakes! I think SGS II sure has this problem but I reckon SG-Note does not have this problem. I came across a video on youtube where this guy has compared the videos of both SGS II and SG Note, side by side. And man, SGS II literally loses its focus all the dam time. Whereas SG Note doesn't.
I will post it in night as youtubing is prohibited in my office premises.

Why I will never upgrade to the Note 5

The Note 5 will never have AOSP because Samsung isnt releasing the Exynos code. So you'll always be doomed to slow touchwiz.
Note 5 going through the recent tabs, stuttering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33pqdsdEqqc&feature=youtu.be&t=31
Note 4 on Marshmellow/CM13, going through the recent tabs, damn fluently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMFGahR-Nr8
That's how Touchwiz ruins beautiful hardware. Who cares about benchmarks, it's all about user experience. And that just s*cks with Touchwiz.
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The Note 5 will never have AOSP because Samsung isnt releasing the Exynos code. So you'll always be doomed to slow touchwiz.
Note 5 going through the recent tabs, stuttering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33pqdsdEqqc&feature=youtu.be&t=31
Note 4 on Marshmellow/CM13, going through the recent tabs, damn fluently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMFGahR-Nr8
That's how Touchwiz ruins beautiful hardware. Who cares about benchmarks, it's all about user experience. And that just s*cks with Touchwiz.
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Really doubt the Note 5 performs that bad considering I get none of that (recent apps) lag on my n910c running touchwiz.
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Really doubt the Note 5 performs that bad considering I get none of that (recent apps) lag on my n910c running touchwiz.
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Can you shoot a video ? I used this app, it's really simple: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free
Just put it at 60 hz because that's your screens refresh rate (otherwise it will introduce recording stuttering). Thanks !
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Really doubt the Note 5 performs that bad considering I get none of that (recent apps) lag on my n910c running touchwiz.
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i can confirm this there is absouletly no stuttering in recent apps aswell i can also add both s6 edge and note edge is very fluid too with 5.1.1.
tmac31 said:
i can confirm this there is absouletly no stuttering in recent apps aswell i can also add both s6 edge and note edge is very fluid too with 5.1.1.
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Then maybe YOU can shoot that video ? Somehow people here state how fluid the Note4 exynos on Touchwiz it is but dont want to actually show it.
It takes literally only a few minutes of your time.
Thanks.
gekkehenkie11 said:
Then maybe YOU can shoot that video ? Somehow people here state how fluid the Note4 exynos it is but dont want to actually show it.
Or, wait, you are on a snapdragon according to your sig ? In that case, you must be joking. It's even WAY worse than the Note 5 when running touchwiz.
Thanks.
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my note edge is snapdragon and yes there is just no scrolling lag in recents but there was in 5.0. btw i believe you are understanding that video wrong there is no stutter in recents but there is sttuter in apps like twitter and i can say scrolling in s6 edge is bad aswell but somehow note 4 scrolling is pretty smooth i just have no idea how. again stutter isnt in recents but in apps.
check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note-5-scrolling-behaviour-t3195672
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my note edge is snapdragon and yes there is just no scrolling lag in recents but there was in 5.0. btw i believe you are understanding that video wrong there is no stutter in recents but there is sttuter in apps like twitter and i can say scrolling in s6 edge is bad aswell but somehow note 4 scrolling is pretty smooth i just have no idea how. again stutter isnt in recents but in apps.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note-5-scrolling-behaviour-t3195672
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I'm downloading touchwiz 5.1.1 right now and will shoot a video myself then. I'm sure it's horribly stuttering too. That's just what touchwiz does.
gekkehenkie11 said:
Can you shoot a video ? I used this app, it's really simple: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free
Just put it at 60 hz because that's your screens refresh rate (otherwise it will introduce recording stuttering). Thanks !
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Yup will upload it soon; had to switch batteries.
EDIT: Cannot record anything without making everything stutter like crazy. So recording the screen isn't going to show how smooth it really is.
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Yup will upload it soon; had to switch batteries.
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Ok looking forward to it ! Will shoot a video on touchwiz 5.1.1 snapdragon myself too, for the fun of it.
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I'm downloading touchwiz 5.1.1 right now and will shoot a video myself then. I'm sure it's horribly stuttering too.
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do it since im on mobile data and man no1 really cares you gonna buy note5 or not lol. i wont either unless my company buys me a free one snapdragon was dead this year and if it will be dead next year aswell no1 will care how bad touchwiz is and just go for exynos again. record a video for multitasking aswell if you want i can confirm s6 edge and note5 sucks in multitasking and cm note4 will blow them. so it will be good motivation for yourself also and you can pass note6 too maybe.
about note5 and s6:
apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE
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do it since im on mobile data and man no1 really cares you gonna buy note5 or not lol. i wont either unless my company buys me a free one snapdragon was dead this year and if it will be dead next year aswell no1 will care how bad touchwiz is and just go for exynos again. record a video for multitasking aswell if you want i can confirm s6 edge and note5 sucks in multitasking and cm note4 will blow them. so it will be good motivation for yourself also and you can pass note6 too maybe.
about note5 and s6:
apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE
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It just pisses me off somewhat. I mean all that beautiful hardware Samsung puts in their phones. Probably the best out there. And then they ruin everything with Touchwiz ... It's sad.
tmac31 said:
do it since im on mobile data and man no1 really cares you gonna buy note5 or not lol. i wont either unless my company buys me a free one snapdragon was dead this year and if it will be dead next year aswell no1 will care how bad touchwiz is and just go for exynos again. record a video for multitasking aswell if you want i can confirm s6 edge and note5 sucks in multitasking and cm note4 will blow them. so it will be good motivation for yourself also and you can pass note6 too maybe.
about note5 and s6:
apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE
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In which ways are the apps laggy? (edit: noticed you said themes so ignore this) Cannot say I notice any "lag" apart from the occasional stutter on my n910c (wanamlite's rom and googy_anas' 2.0 kernel (default settings (gentle_fair_sleepers off))). Have you checked the Profile GPU rendering graphs? I usually see stutters in most apps when loading content in the background when scrolling, but should be pretty smooth (60fps) almost 99% of the time. No wonder the scrolling is so slow on iOS.
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gekkehenkie11 said:
Ok looking forward to it ! Will shoot a video on touchwiz 5.1.1 snapdragon myself too, for the fun of it.
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The screen recording app makes the phone stutter like crazy so I cannot shoot a video that would show off how smooth it really is. Maybe that's why the note 5 appears to lag in the video? I can use an external camera to shoot me scrolling through my opened apps, but wouldn't want to bother. But if you require proof I'll be happy to provide it.
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In which ways are the apps laggy? (edit: noticed you said themes so ignore this) Cannot say I notice any "lag" apart from the occasional stutter on my n910c (wanamlite's rom and googy_anas' 2.0 kernel (default settings (gentle_fair_sleepers off))). Have you checked the Profile GPU rendering graphs? I usually see stutters in most apps when loading content in the background when scrolling, but should be pretty smooth (60fps) almost 99% of the time. No wonder the scrolling is so slow on iOS.
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The screen recording app makes the phone stutter like crazy so I cannot shoot a video that would show off how smooth it really is. Maybe that's why the note 5 appears to lag in the video? I can use an external camera to shoot me scrolling through my opened apps, but wouldn't want to bother. But if you require proof I'll be happy to provide it.
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no i was talking about note5 and s6 scrolling lag in 3rd party apps note4 is better in scrolling
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...viour-t3195672
tmac31 said:
about note5 and s6:
apps stutter:YES
Multitasking sucks:YES
Themes make phone laggy:YES
recent apps lag:NOPE
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I must stand corrected ! I just installed TW 5.1.1 on my note 4 (I hadnt even bothered, yes I hate touchwiz THAT much). And you were right, the recent app screen is WAY better than in 5.0. Maybe the recent apps will be better for the Note 5 then when Samsung releases 6.0 for them.
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I must stand corrected ! I just installed TW 5.1.1 on my note 4 (I hadnt even bothered, yes I hate touchwiz THAT much). And you were right, the recent app screen is WAY better than in 5.0. Maybe the recent apps will be better for the Note 5 then when Samsung releases 6.0 for them.
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Then you should really try TEKXodus N4 URv3.3
It's very snappy with its latest update. It's getting through till my 6P arrives.
Now i'm happy note 4 user
with custom rom and like a boss
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gekkehenkie11 said:
It just pisses me off somewhat. I mean all that beautiful hardware Samsung puts in their phones. Probably the best out there. And then they ruin everything with Touchwiz ... It's sad.
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100%
that's why they keep losing every year ...
not like S3 when it came everone loved samsung
they keep ruining everything ..
I'm using n910c there is no lag what so ever.
Once you have used the Note 5 for awhile & go back to the Note 4 it does feel antiquated both software & hardware.
Don't get me wrong I have note 4 N910C & it's great but to use, feel & look at the Note 5 has it beat.
SD card aside, I never changed batteries, get the Note 5 & you won't want to go back.
Have the Note 4 and went looking for a Note 5 64. Couldn't find one and I wasn't going to be stuck with 32.
I got the S6 edge+
The Note is an excellent phone. However, the more I pick up and put down the edge+ the more I understand how wide the gap is with the illusion of quality.
The edge is a beautiful phone, and feels really special in the hand. The Note 4 is more comfortable to hold and use. I carry them both, and mostly reach for the Note to do anything worky. It's just more reliable. And the removable battery and expandable memory makes is a lot more useful.
I find myself reaching for the edge more and more. It's smooth, it's beautiful, there's something there that's not um tangible. I'm beginning to make excuses to use it - I feel far more special afterward than I do with the Note.
I can see how, if one had the 5, it would be difficult to reach for the 4.
The materials actually DO change completely, how you relate to the phone.
The thing is - the Note 4 remains far more functional, far more reliable, far more efficient, and itself, is beautifully constructed.
Where the edge is sophisticated, the Note has class.
Does that make sense?
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gekkehenkie11 said:
The Note 5 will never have AOSP because Samsung isnt releasing the Exynos code. So you'll always be doomed to slow touchwiz.
Note 5 going through the recent tabs, stuttering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33pqdsdEqqc&feature=youtu.be&t=31
Note 4 on Marshmellow/CM13, going through the recent tabs, damn fluently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMFGahR-Nr8
That's how Touchwiz ruins beautiful hardware. Who cares about benchmarks, it's all about user experience. And that just s*cks with Touchwiz.
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Thought Note 4 only had cm12.

A quick review best Out-of-the-Box Android phone yet

Without a doubt this is the best android phone out of the box yet ever. I am real happy to be able to take the best pics I ever took. It is also the best native apps set
The Samsung app set is good. Am almost off external apps. I have pushed vlc music player aside somewhat, as well as es file explorer, as well as the hacker keyboard. As I am real glad Samsung has its own keyboard and not the exterior keyboard types with their agreements and data collection.
The best thing is probably in "device care" where there is a RAM clearer under memory tab that clears out those apps that I use most often like social video apps and browser apps caches. This happening all at the press of 1 button.
Music app works well but still (as in VLC also it is) I can not go to album from a song that's playing. It would be a good option. The music comes up really fast after it indexes and takes up a much lower amount data to save.
I think it is a real nice phone for it's price, but "best android phone out of the box ever", "best pics I ever took", "best native apps set"? Nahhhhh
What are you trying to tell us?
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I think it is a real nice phone for it's price, but "best android phone out of the box ever", "best pics I ever took", "best native apps set"? Nahhhhh
What are you trying to tell us?
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Hey what areYOU trying to tell US? MRS. junior member
nao I mean obviously in my experience I been around here since about KitKat or maybe late JellyBean
but..nah you go ahead and criticize babe I like a feisty lady.
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Hey what areYOU trying to tell US? MRS. junior member
nao I mean obviously in my experience I been around here since about KitKat or maybe late JellyBean
but..nah you go ahead and criticize babe I like a feisty lady.
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Yeah, if you had a JB or KK phone before the A70, then the A70 must be amazing to you lol
But the A-series is a budget phone series. The S and Note series are better in picture quality and speed, if money is no issue and Samsung is your brand. So that was my point.
Calm down, my dear, there there. Hugs and kisses from Mrs. Beretta :laugh:
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Yeah, if you had a JB or KK phone before the A70, then the A70 must be amazing to you lol
But the A-series is a budget phone series. The S and Note series are better in picture quality and speed, if money is no issue and Samsung is your brand. So that was my point.
Calm down, my dear, there there. Hugs and kisses from Mrs. Beretta :laugh:
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yeah but I kno that b
kruc Ire said:
yeah but I kno that b
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this is not the best phone ever for sure mate. it can't be. idk if you're joking.
y.erenbektas said:
this is not the best phone ever for sure mate. it can't be. idk if you're joking.
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right. No I mean not joking this things the best. I don't ever wanna mess with those 500 sterling phones again. or 1000 sterling. This phone has the best apps and whatnot. Seriously like I said, the keyboard and whole feel.
Sometimes I looked back at my first phones and they were not much bigger screen than a credit card and they were so magnificent to me then. Like the Motorola Droid 2. How awesome was that thing. In the end the phone's no better than its apps. I remember when Droid 2 got the droid 3 update and they like removed the 2 notch and -2 notch in the phone's camera brightness or something like that. Some other things too.
But If ya look around the samsung developers appear to have done something pretty special with this phone in the apps I mentioned op. I mean look at the junk that is the phones of yesteryear.
Htc my god just junk. They all had "Swiftkey" keyboard after awhile. The only option was to go emoticonless and use the Hacker Keypad. So we got that. I have a literally yellow and black background with white keys board here that doesn't report back to "Swiftkey" or "Touchpal" aaand really naive the way the music app works. It's not giant screensized art but it's real fast to load. Settings, man settings. I understand that you probably have a phone from MI6, but those other apps I mentioned and settings like dark mode. Can't be beat. And the shell of THIS phone is plastic, no cracking with sudden temp changes!
No if you think about it this phone is the best phone there ever was. An I mean seriously no phones that cost 1000 sterling. or even 700. You can keep your MI6 phone, I don't even need a phone that can disable a charging water buffalo thru sonar at 100 paces...
and forget about moddable, or modded phones. There needs to be some discussion someplace about just how evil the bad elements custom rom community has gotten for people like me who never committed no crimes when they wanted us to.
i had a galaxy s8 before the a70 which is a flagship from 2017 almost 3 years old , in some way the a70 is a downgrade from the s8 ,i dont like the camera setup the s8 with a single lens took photos way better than the a70 , photos where sharper and of higher quality and the gpu in the galaxy s8 is way faster than the gpu in the a70 other than that i cant complain it is a nice phone for the money i hope devs would start messing around with this phone maybe we can eventually get a decent camera app port or a working gcam app with complete features
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i had a galaxy s8 before the a70 which is a flagship from 2017 almost 3 years old , in some way the a70 is a downgrade from the s8 ,i dont like the camera setup the s8 with a single lens took photos way better than the a70 , photos where sharper and of higher quality and the gpu in the galaxy s8 is way faster than the gpu in the a70 other than that i cant complain it is a nice phone for the money i hope devs would start messing around with this phone maybe we can eventually get a decent camera app port or a working gcam app with complete features
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Gcam does work with it
@bodomfan it does but at 6 mega pixel i 16:9 or 8 mega pixel in 4:3 aspect ration which is lower than the stock app also no wide angle lense support

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